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Vancouver Olympics: Thread 3, Day 17 (Closing Ceremony)

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wow, Belarus scored early against Hiller.

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    ...whoa. There isn't an American even entered into ski cross.

    I'm surprised NBC didn't just claim there wasn't any women's ski cross this year.

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    No words Hiller, no words.

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I missed the goal, what happened?

    I was watching ski cross qualifying.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    quovadis13 wrote: »
    No words Hiller, no words.

    And it was close to getting ruled no goal on that bullshit intent rule. Thankfully, the refs here don't suck as much.

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  • delphinusdelphinus Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    why dont people just use ctvolympics.ca?

    they've archived everything and even have rewind on their live streams

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    delphinus wrote: »
    why dont people just use ctvolympics.ca?

    they've archived everything and even have rewind on their live streams

    Regional limitations I think.

    You can rewind on NBC too, and everything is up eventually. It lack of live stuff and delay in putting up replays that people are complaining about

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  • GoslingGosling Looking Up Soccer In Mongolia Right Now, Probably Watertown, WIRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    delphinus wrote: »
    why dont people just use ctvolympics.ca?

    they've archived everything and even have rewind on their live streams

    Region lock.

    But we can still view SAME-DAY coverage via the National Broadcasting Company! (Where their motto is 'National, Not International, You Pinko Commie'!)

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  • quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    The Swiss tied it up

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  • SixSix Caches Tweets in the mainframe cyberhex Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Belarus looks like they're playing hard but are really outclassed, here. Good on them for getting through the period tied.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wow, I never figured Belarus would make this a competitive game. 2-2 now.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wow, just started watching the ski-cross final and they're even more crazy than snowboard cross. The skiers seem to be going like 10x as fast.

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  • Grim SqueakerGrim Squeaker Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Kramer is a silly goose.

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  • TonyTheLeperTonyTheLeper Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yea the womens ski cross is great right now. I'm having a hard time between the hockey and ski cross. Few big wipe outs in ski cross so far too. The nords and canadians had some real nice runs on the qualifying. The top 16 are going to be awesome races. It seems there is more wreckless passing in the skiing compared to boarding, I like, I like.

    I can't help but think this hockey game is going to go end in the 10 minute over time with the 4 on 4

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Skicross just claimed one rider with a bigass fall.

    But damn, Canada seems to have some amazing ski/snowboard cross starts. We get out of the gate so well.

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    Six wrote: »
    The projections are based off remaining events, not totals. I'm not going to go down event by event, but again, the point is that prior to the games, the Canadians were thought to be strong favorites in a lot of events which have yet to award medals.

    The projections so far have been inaccurate for Canada and a couple of others, but to call them all "wildly inaccurate" is disingenuous.

    An interesting exercise would be to go event by event with those that remain and look at exactly where Canada is expected to pick up these 16 medals, but I don't care that much.

    Predicting 160% of actual (Canada's total medals) is wildly inaccurate, and those projections have been high in every event except snowboarding.

    Hell, the projections suggest they'll win 3.6 more medals in the 4 remaining short track events when they've won 1 so far, in one of the events they have nearly no contenders, and two of the events are relays where they can get at most one medal. It projects 2.8 more medals in speed skating in 4 events, 1 of which has no Canadian competitors, 2 of which are team events that feature the same athletes that have underperformed expectations. They project 2.6 more in freestyle skiing with 3 events to go and only 2 with qualified Canadians.

    The whole thing presumes the expectations were accurate when so far they've proven inaccurate, even event to event. Everyone acknowledges this, yet those projections are still the base. That's why its not that useful for projection unless we presume the variance is random, which its clearly not.

    You're committing a statistical fallacy here. We might, for example, predict that when we flip a coin 1 million times, we'll get 500 000 heads. (I.e. Canada will win X many medals.) Then we might flip the coin 100 000 times, (I.e. we're now halfway through the Olympics) and come up with 25 000 heads (I.e. Canada is far off pace to winning X many medals). Nevertheless, we would predict that for the next 900 000 flips (I.e. the remainder of the Olympics) we'd get 450 000 heads (I.e. maintaining our original 50% expectation).

    Unless, unless, the 25 000 heads / 100 000 flips (I.e. Canada not winning as many medals as expected halfway through) is a significant enough abnormality to indicate that there is a confounding factor correlated to the result of the coin (E.g. the coin is actually unfair; I.e. somebody's spiked the water in the Canadian athletes residence or some shit).

    That is to say, simply because the prediction has been inaccurate so far doesn't mean that the prediction will be inaccurate heretofore, unless there is a distinct causal variable that was unaccounted for by the prediction and that will remain in effect heretofore, which can only be inferred by the prediction being inaccurate.

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  • TonyTheLeperTonyTheLeper Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Its snowing like a bitch right now too. I didn't really notice it till i switched it to HD. I really wish they left this track open all year. I'd love to head over and hit it. Its like dirt bikes on skiis.

    Wow that first 4 pack had some insane bumping and passing.

    Come on Ash. We could use another canadian passed the quarter final.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Damn, our lady got jostled so much and lost all her speed :(

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  • TheBlackWindTheBlackWind Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I keep hearing that Canada is the gold medal favorite for Women's hockey and I am a little confused about that. Hasn't this same US team beaten them in the last couple meetIngs?

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    FOURTH PLACE BITCHES. (in a quarterfinal, but still.)


    Also, CTV had a terrible graphic of Tessa Virtue as a blonde that they showed after their gold medal. I was like, "Who the fuck is that?"

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  • PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    TheBlackWind wrote: »
    I keep hearing that Canada is the gold medal favorite for Women's hockey and I am a little confused about that. Hasn't this same US team beaten them in the last couple meetIngs?

    Its harder to dash their expectations if you don't place them high on a precarious perch.

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  • TonyTheLeperTonyTheLeper Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Aegis wrote: »
    Damn, our lady got jostled so much and lost all her speed :(

    I can't help but feel her straining the knee after that first run had something to do with it. She bled off speed dramatically after that, and that whole second run didn't look all out like we have seen her put down before. Its alright, I',m really thinkin ash is gonna take this on her home course. I am oping so anyway. She looks great.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Canada Women's have won gold in last 2 olympics, with the US winning gold back in 1998.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Woo, 2 Canucks into the semifinal. If they both win, we could have both of them in contention for medals.

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    PantsB wrote: »
    TheBlackWind wrote: »
    I keep hearing that Canada is the gold medal favorite for Women's hockey and I am a little confused about that. Hasn't this same US team beaten them in the last couple meetIngs?

    Its harder to dash their expectations if you don't place them high on a precarious perch.

    Loss of the last 2 world championships, but win at the last 4-nations cup. Overall though, over the last 5 years, Canada has won the majority of matchups.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Fuck, we were in 1st, then fell back to 3rd :(

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Aegis wrote: »
    Fuck, we were in 1st, then fell back to 3rd :(

    Semis?

    Top two advance?

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    LaOs wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Fuck, we were in 1st, then fell back to 3rd :(

    Semis?

    Top two advance?

    Yea :(

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  • LaOsLaOs SaskatoonRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Aegis wrote: »
    LaOs wrote: »
    Aegis wrote: »
    Fuck, we were in 1st, then fell back to 3rd :(

    Semis?

    Top two advance?

    Yea :(

    I wish I could say I was surprised.

    Are we in the other Semi as well, or was that it?

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  • SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Holy shit, Sven Kramer, gold medalist on the 5km speed skating and dead ringer for the gold on the 10km, got sent into the wrong lane during a lane change by his coach, either by misunderstanding between him and the coach, or because the coach was wrong. He was ahead by 3seconds when it happened. He DSQ'd and the korean prodigy won the gold.

    This is going to be Huge Drama.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Yay, 2nd in the other semi, so 1 in the final.

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  • toxk_02toxk_02 Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Grim Squeaker wrote: »
    Kramer is a silly goose.
    That's a pretty crummy way to lose a gold medal and Olympic record time.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Wow.

    The Belarus v. Swiss game is going into overtime. Mad props to Belarus for making this game awesome.

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  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Sudden death overtime Switzerland vs Belarus.

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Heh the ski-cross finals are funny in the countries represented:

    Small Final (5th-8th place):
    Canada
    Swiss
    Sweden
    Norway

    Big Final (1st-4th):
    Canada
    Swiss
    Sweden
    Norway

    I sense a trend!

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    SanderJK wrote: »
    Holy shit, Sven Kramer, gold medalist on the 5km speed skating and dead ringer for the gold on the 10km, got sent into the wrong lane during a lane change by his coach, either by misunderstanding between him and the coach, or because the coach was wrong. He was ahead by 3seconds when it happened. He DSQ'd and the korean prodigy won the gold.

    This is going to be Huge Drama.

    Christ. They just showed us a bit of this... how did the COACH send him into the wrong lane? Shouldn't he like, remember whether he was outside or inside the last time around?

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    [tinfoilhat]

    The coach is actually on the payroll of that Dutch Energy Company which told him to fuck up Kramer's run so they wouldn't have to pay out another $10 million Euros.

    [/tinfoilhat]

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  • AegisAegis Fear My Dance Overshot Toronto, Landed in OttawaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Holy fuck what a hit. Belarus gets a powerplay in overtime.

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  • rattletraprattletrap Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    SanderJK wrote: »
    Holy shit, Sven Kramer, gold medalist on the 5km speed skating and dead ringer for the gold on the 10km, got sent into the wrong lane during a lane change by his coach, either by misunderstanding between him and the coach, or because the coach was wrong. He was ahead by 3seconds when it happened. He DSQ'd and the korean prodigy won the gold.

    This is going to be Huge Drama.

    If you've been to any long-track events this Olympics you know that the audience is about half Dutch. They apparently follow their skaters around like they're the Grateful Dead. They even have a Dutch brass band play during intermission.

    I can only imagine the reaction in the oval. There may have been an actual sad trombone...

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Awesome, the US quarterfinal is being tape delayed on the West Coast. It's a noon start time out there. So... that makes sense, obviously.

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