You know how the big orange hologram of the Normandy 2 in the CIC updates with the upgrades you make in bright blue?
Well the holograms for the mineral scanner and the engine upgrades have been switched around. If you upgrade the engines it shows up in the CIC as having upgraded the scanner and vice versa.
...
EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING, THIS GAME HAS BEEN RUINED FOREVER!
You know how the big orange hologram of the Normandy 2 in the CIC updates with the upgrades you make in bright blue?
Well the holograms for the mineral scanner and the engine upgrades have been switched around. If you upgrade the engines it shows up in the CIC as having upgraded the scanner and vice versa.
...
EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING, THIS GAME HAS BEEN RUINED FOREVER!
I mean if you really want to quibble with the SCIENCE! going on in ME2, you should start with shepard re-entering atmosphere in one piece wearing only a bodysuit and a helmet.
*takes a very large breath*
or how about mass effect tech in general being very wonkily explained in the first place or how bullets get ME'd without their own me drive or how sometimes you can phase through matter but bullets will never do that or how armor somehow protects against gravitational fields but you don't fly off the face of the planet or how the normandy never assists you as aerial support or how ...
ah nvm.
[goomba]a space wizard did it dur hur[/goomba]
Uh, the guns are the drives? The guns are like tiny, uh, relays. And the Normandy is far too big to assist. Like, how would it even get inside the building? The technology is pretty well explained, actually, you just don't read the codex, apparently. I dunno about vanguards.
But oh yes that's me, I am the one that uses memes all the time instead of explaining things. Troll.
perhaps you would like to read the codex instead.
An ME drive will simply reduce any object to zero mass. it still needs a rocket attached to its rear end to go anywhere. relays give ships a large "boost" in reducing mass, the ships still need their own drives however to maintain the mass effect. as per codex, should the me drive fail during ftl travel the results would be catastrophic.
now then, troll, if the gun is the me relay... where's the me drive in the bullet?
oh and derpaderp on the normandy! there are noooooo outdoor levels in me1 or 2, none whatsoever.
*sigh* have another red herring.
I understand what you're saying and it does apply provided bullets actually DO need sustained ME fields - which I don't THINK is the case. I imagine just applying a mass effect field before the bullet leaves the gun will give quite a substantial speed boost on it's own.
Do ME fields actually reduce objects to zero mass? I was under the impression they just substantially reduced the mass. I don't know the equations but I'm pretty sure an object with zero mass would move at light speed if ANY force was applied to it whatsoever, which would cause.... significant problems.
And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Edit: Also I don't think red herring means what you think it means.
ok, how about bringing down the sky. balak has to leave the 'roid at some point! or zaeeds recruitment, why bother let vido sail off into the distance. or the collossus. bladibladibla. It's not unimaginable that the normandy has none ME powered weapons, as geth ships have small laser like weaponry attached to theirs.
and i'm pretty sure i know what i mean when I say red herring.
have another.
the codex isn't all too clear (i.e. no available data) on the matter.
power costs increase for mass reduced, me relays are the only objects that can reduce ships to 0 or -0 mass (view the old thread for 4 pages of pseudo-science).
the only "agrument" i can think of in regards to bullets is that they don't seem to travel at light speed or faster and therefore different rules apply.
And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Zaeed loyalty.
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Horizon.
Again, no AA threat; in fact, the only AA stuff that's there has been disabled until you put it back into working order. The Normandy might not know exactly where Shepard was until communications were re-established, but it knows where Shepard landed. Seeing as how the Collector ship was literally within walking distance, you'd think that a Normandy that stayed within vicinity of the landing area would be able to swoop in and take shots at the Collector ship the moment it was spotted. As endgame shows, even without the Thanix cannon, the Normandy can dish out serious/fatal damage to that ship; at the very least, enough to severely disable it.
And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Zaeed loyalty.
beat'd
Horizon.
Again, no AA threat; in fact, the only AA stuff that's there has been disabled until you put it back into working order. The Normandy might not know exactly where Shepard was until communications were re-established, but it knows where Shepard landed. Seeing as how the Collector ship was literally within walking distance, you'd think that a Normandy that stayed within vicinity of the landing area would be able to swoop in and take shots at the Collector ship the moment it was spotted. As endgame shows, even without the Thanix cannon, the Normandy can dish out serious/fatal damage to that ship; at the very least, enough to severely disable it.
Yeah, but the ship was full of soylent gre- I mean people.
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And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Zaeed loyalty.
beat'd
Horizon.
Again, no AA threat; in fact, the only AA stuff that's there has been disabled until you put it back into working order. The Normandy might not know exactly where Shepard was until communications were re-established, but it knows where Shepard landed. Seeing as how the Collector ship was literally within walking distance, you'd think that a Normandy that stayed within vicinity of the landing area would be able to swoop in and take shots at the Collector ship the moment it was spotted. As endgame shows, even without the Thanix cannon, the Normandy can dish out serious/fatal damage to that ship; at the very least, enough to severely disable it.
Yeah, but the ship was full of soylent gre- I mean people.
The Ultimate Renegade Option?
Joker: Blow that ship outta the air, reward the colonists with military medals for dying to save Humanity and we'll go home right now
Somehow I lost Mordin, I have no idea how. He wasn't leading anything, I got all the upgrades, and I had done all the loyalty missions. WTF?
Where did you send him at the end of the game?
More importantly, where did you send Grunt, Zaeed and Garrus at the end of the game?
I had Grunt and Garrus with me against the final boss. Was that the problem?
Mordin probably died because
you did not leave enough loyal "defender" characters to hold the door. According to a developer post, this is the section where the defenders are supposed to shine (after the earlier tech and biotic parts). Each character guarding the door is assigned a defense rating depending on their loyalty and "defending" skill. Squad members like Grunt, Zaeed and Garrus are ideal for this role. People like Mordin and Tali are not.
Mordin is the first to die if your door defense rating is not high enough. To ensure that he lives, it's best to have him escort the crew back to the ship (anyone loyal can do this and succeed).
There's some flexibility there. I had everyone live, even though:
I sent Zaeed back to the ship with the crew, thinking that if they ran into any collectors he'd be able to defend the crew just fine. I never considered using Mordin there because I thought if they ran into any trouble he'd get killed and the crew would get wiped out.
But I used Miranda and Thane as my squadmates at the end of the mission, and thus
And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Zaeed loyalty.
beat'd
Oh you mean the one that takes place in a giant fireball of a building?
And I don't know what you think red herring means but it's not something trolls eat or whatever. :?:
And in BDtS if you let the batarian live then you are scum.
Again, no AA threat; in fact, the only AA stuff that's there has been disabled until you put it back into working order. The Normandy might not know exactly where Shepard was until communications were re-established, but it knows where Shepard landed. Seeing as how the Collector ship was literally within walking distance, you'd think that a Normandy that stayed within vicinity of the landing area would be able to swoop in and take shots at the Collector ship the moment it was spotted. As endgame shows, even without the Thanix cannon, the Normandy can dish out serious/fatal damage to that ship; at the very least, enough to severely disable it.
Well, it was firing straight into the maw at point blank in that case. Still, should have been able to do some damage.
One thing that does get mentioned in the codex and (maybe?) in dialogue is that the bizarro normandy is a lot heavier than the original, which is why you mostly use the shuttle to enter/exit atmosphere now.
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And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Zaeed loyalty.
beat'd
Oh you mean the one that takes place in a giant fireball of a building?
And I don't know what you think red herring means but it's not something trolls eat or whatever. :?:
And in BDtS if you let the batarian live then you are scum.
You'd think that they could at the very least track it.
If EDI can give you a read on life-forms based on heat signatures, then I'd assume it could find his escape craft.
Although honestly I'm more annoyed that I couldn't use my fully charged Cain to blast it out of the sky.
Edit: Also, does anyone have a link to Santa Claustrophobia's list of ME thread laws? I've been meaning to show them to a friend, but I haven't found anything.
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And name one outdoor level that the Normandy or Big Normandy could do anything to help out. How would it even help out? Shooting at planets is a war crime, you know.
Zaeed loyalty.
beat'd
Oh you mean the one that takes place in a giant fireball of a building?
And I don't know what you think red herring means but it's not something trolls eat or whatever. :?:
And in BDtS if you let the batarian live then you are scum.
You'd think that they could at the very least track it.
If EDI can give you a read on life-forms based on heat signatures, then I'd assume it could find his escape craft.
Although honestly I'm more annoyed that I couldn't use my fully charged Cain to blast it out of the sky.
It would definitely be tough, and I understand why it's not in there. Having context sensitive events based on what weapons you have would be a waste of time and resources in the grand scheme of things, especially since the avalanche, blackstorm, and flamethrower (which you get right before that) would be completely ineffective.
I mean if you really want to quibble with the SCIENCE! going on in ME2, you should start with shepard re-entering atmosphere in one piece wearing only a bodysuit and a helmet.
*takes a very large breath*
or how about mass effect tech in general being very wonkily explained in the first place or how bullets get ME'd without their own me drive or how sometimes you can phase through matter but bullets will never do that or how armor somehow protects against gravitational fields but you don't fly off the face of the planet or how the normandy never assists you as aerial support or how ...
ah nvm.
[goomba]a space wizard did it dur hur[/goomba]
I thought the guns in ME are just Mass Effect enhanced railguns?
the Mass Effect makes the bulltes lighter, then they get fired the railgun way. Thanks to the reduced mass, the gun can accellerate the bullets to a much higher speed using a lot less energy than it would normally be able to.
No self-propulsion required.
I mean if you really want to quibble with the SCIENCE! going on in ME2, you should start with shepard re-entering atmosphere in one piece wearing only a bodysuit and a helmet.
*takes a very large breath*
or how about mass effect tech in general being very wonkily explained in the first place or how bullets get ME'd without their own me drive or how sometimes you can phase through matter but bullets will never do that or how armor somehow protects against gravitational fields but you don't fly off the face of the planet or how the normandy never assists you as aerial support or how ...
ah nvm.
[goomba]a space wizard did it dur hur[/goomba]
I thought the guns in ME are just Mass Effect enhanced railguns?
the Mass Effect makes the bulltes lighter, then they get fired the railgun way. Thanks to the reduced mass, the gun can accellerate the bullets to a much higher speed using a lot less energy than it would normally be able to.
No self-propulsion required.
This is fundamentally correct, and explained in detail in the game.
I mean if you really want to quibble with the SCIENCE! going on in ME2, you should start with shepard re-entering atmosphere in one piece wearing only a bodysuit and a helmet.
*takes a very large breath*
or how about mass effect tech in general being very wonkily explained in the first place or how bullets get ME'd without their own me drive or how sometimes you can phase through matter but bullets will never do that or how armor somehow protects against gravitational fields but you don't fly off the face of the planet or how the normandy never assists you as aerial support or how ...
ah nvm.
[goomba]a space wizard did it dur hur[/goomba]
I thought the guns in ME are just Mass Effect enhanced railguns?
the Mass Effect makes the bulltes lighter, then they get fired the railgun way. Thanks to the reduced mass, the gun can accellerate the bullets to a much higher speed using a lot less energy than it would normally be able to.
No self-propulsion required.
Violating conservation of energy.
Look, I know tha mass effect is supposed to rewrite the laws of physics, but it isn't consistent with the ones it claims to retain.
I mean if you really want to quibble with the SCIENCE! going on in ME2, you should start with shepard re-entering atmosphere in one piece wearing only a bodysuit and a helmet.
*takes a very large breath*
or how about mass effect tech in general being very wonkily explained in the first place or how bullets get ME'd without their own me drive or how sometimes you can phase through matter but bullets will never do that or how armor somehow protects against gravitational fields but you don't fly off the face of the planet or how the normandy never assists you as aerial support or how ...
ah nvm.
[goomba]a space wizard did it dur hur[/goomba]
I thought the guns in ME are just Mass Effect enhanced railguns?
the Mass Effect makes the bulltes lighter, then they get fired the railgun way. Thanks to the reduced mass, the gun can accellerate the bullets to a much higher speed using a lot less energy than it would normally be able to.
No self-propulsion required.
Violating conservation of energy.
Look, I know tha mass effect is supposed to rewrite the laws of physics, but it isn't consistent with the ones it claims to retain.
The science is crap, lets get over this.
A wizard rewrote the laws of conservation of energy, so it's all cool.
It's space magic!
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Things I would use my Cerberus-funded spaceship for.
Joker, if you see Vido trying to escape, shoot the shuttle down.
Joker, use our ship that can withstand Collector laser beams to drop us into the hostile LZ at the top of this tower.
Joker, there's a Geth Colossus between us and Tali. Give EDI the gun controls and pulled off another of those low flying manouevres like you did at Virmire.
Joker there are two supernuclear facilities overrun by Blue Sun terrorists. I'll deal with one, I need you to nuke the other; destroy that facility or let millions of civilians die.
Joker, I'm trying to pick up this Asari chick and she doesn't believe I have the fastest ship in the galaxy. Come down here and show off a bit, will you?
Things I would use my Cerberus-funded spaceship for.
Joker, if you see Vido trying to escape, shoot the shuttle down.
Joker, use our ship that can withstand Collector laser beams to drop us into the hostile LZ at the top of this tower.
Joker, there's a Geth Colossus between us and Tali. Give EDI the gun controls and pulled off another of those low flying manouevres like you did at Virmire.
Joker there are two supernuclear facilities overrun by Blue Sun terrorists. I'll deal with one, I need you to nuke the other; destroy that facility or let millions of civilians die.
Joker, I'm trying to pick up this Asari chick and she doesn't believe I have the fastest ship in the galaxy. Come down here and show off a bit, will you?
But the Normandy SR-2 is twice the mass of the original Normandy and has more trouble with atmospheric flight, which is why it has the shuttle. So there.
I catch my head jerking at the screen when Shepherd headbuts someone off of a platform to their death. It's that cool to play.
I've found that it's better a a counterattacking power than a breakthrough power; i.e. let someone try to rush you or get to close then toss them back instead of trying to be waaaaaaaaay ahead of your squaddies by being overly agressive with it.
What's the best armor with it? The cerberus assault armor?
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But the Normandy SR-2 is twice the mass of the original Normandy and has more trouble with atmospheric flight, which is why it has the shuttle. So there.
I catch my head jerking at the screen when Shepherd headbuts someone off of a platform to their death. It's that cool to play.
I've found that it's better a a counterattacking power than a breakthrough power; i.e. let someone try to rush you or get to close then toss them back instead of trying to be waaaaaaaaay ahead of your squaddies by being overly agressive with it.
What's the best armor with it? The cerberus assault armor?
the assault armor doesn't have anything the N7 won't get eventually
now that I've gotten comfortable with the vanguard I am ridiculously aggressive with it
now I'm on Veteran, not insanity so there's that
if you go for the biggest, baddest guy they got and take him down fights can end absurdly quickly
I often only need the three shots currently in my eviscerator to end a fight
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Two hours into my adept run, and I've already restarted with a sentinel.
Things I would use my Cerberus-funded spaceship for.
Joker, there's a Geth Colossus between us and Tali. Give EDI the gun controls and pulled off another of those low flying manouevres like you did at Virmire.
Understood Commander, beginning airstrike.
*torpedoes are fired*
Uhh, Commander, remember what happened on Therum? How the entire place was collapsing around you? Yeah, the architecture here wasn't exactly designed to take disruptor torpedoes. You better get out of there FAST.
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Really. None of the DLC armor bonuses are so big that you must have them. Not to mention they're lame.
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And should your shields go DOWN. They should Pull/Warp/Throw your ass.
I'm not a space wizard, I don't know what their perceptions are on the matter.
I'm just a regular wizard
You know how the big orange hologram of the Normandy 2 in the CIC updates with the upgrades you make in bright blue?
Well the holograms for the mineral scanner and the engine upgrades have been switched around. If you upgrade the engines it shows up in the CIC as having upgraded the scanner and vice versa.
...
EVERYBODY STOP PLAYING, THIS GAME HAS BEEN RUINED FOREVER!
With your 20th century mind, you probably think they're in the rear
There's a hologram past the first mission?
Whoa.
I understand what you're saying and it does apply provided bullets actually DO need sustained ME fields - which I don't THINK is the case. I imagine just applying a mass effect field before the bullet leaves the gun will give quite a substantial speed boost on it's own.
Do ME fields actually reduce objects to zero mass? I was under the impression they just substantially reduced the mass. I don't know the equations but I'm pretty sure an object with zero mass would move at light speed if ANY force was applied to it whatsoever, which would cause.... significant problems.
ok, how about bringing down the sky. balak has to leave the 'roid at some point! or zaeeds recruitment, why bother let vido sail off into the distance. or the collossus. bladibladibla. It's not unimaginable that the normandy has none ME powered weapons, as geth ships have small laser like weaponry attached to theirs.
and i'm pretty sure i know what i mean when I say red herring.
have another.
edit:
@chip:
the codex isn't all too clear (i.e. no available data) on the matter.
power costs increase for mass reduced, me relays are the only objects that can reduce ships to 0 or -0 mass (view the old thread for 4 pages of pseudo-science).
the only "agrument" i can think of in regards to bullets is that they don't seem to travel at light speed or faster and therefore different rules apply.
It just does not make since to your inferior organic brain
Much like the english language does not to yours? :P
I am beyond your comprehension.
Zaeed loyalty.
beat'd
Horizon.
The Ultimate Renegade Option?
There's some flexibility there. I had everyone live, even though:
But I used Miranda and Thane as my squadmates at the end of the mission, and thus
And I don't know what you think red herring means but it's not something trolls eat or whatever. :?:
And in BDtS if you let the batarian live then you are scum.
They both look like Space Nazis.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
Because they need some sort of rebreather? You can't put yourself in a bubble and expect the air to last forever.
You'd think that they could at the very least track it.
If EDI can give you a read on life-forms based on heat signatures, then I'd assume it could find his escape craft.
Although honestly I'm more annoyed that I couldn't use my fully charged Cain to blast it out of the sky.
Edit: Also, does anyone have a link to Santa Claustrophobia's list of ME thread laws? I've been meaning to show them to a friend, but I haven't found anything.
Different manufacturer? Whatever recycles the air doesn't necessary have to be in the same place for all masks.
If you could be that accurate with a Cain...
the Mass Effect makes the bulltes lighter, then they get fired the railgun way. Thanks to the reduced mass, the gun can accellerate the bullets to a much higher speed using a lot less energy than it would normally be able to.
No self-propulsion required.
This is fundamentally correct, and explained in detail in the game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLpgxry542M
Violating conservation of energy.
Look, I know tha mass effect is supposed to rewrite the laws of physics, but it isn't consistent with the ones it claims to retain.
The science is crap, lets get over this.
A wizard rewrote the laws of conservation of energy, so it's all cool.
It's space magic!
And move on.
Joker, use our ship that can withstand Collector laser beams to drop us into the hostile LZ at the top of this tower.
Joker, there's a Geth Colossus between us and Tali. Give EDI the gun controls and pulled off another of those low flying manouevres like you did at Virmire.
Joker there are two supernuclear facilities overrun by Blue Sun terrorists. I'll deal with one, I need you to nuke the other; destroy that facility or let millions of civilians die.
Joker, I'm trying to pick up this Asari chick and she doesn't believe I have the fastest ship in the galaxy. Come down here and show off a bit, will you?
But the Normandy SR-2 is twice the mass of the original Normandy and has more trouble with atmospheric flight, which is why it has the shuttle. So there.
Wow.
I catch my head jerking at the screen when Shepherd headbuts someone off of a platform to their death. It's that cool to play.
I've found that it's better a a counterattacking power than a breakthrough power; i.e. let someone try to rush you or get to close then toss them back instead of trying to be waaaaaaaaay ahead of your squaddies by being overly agressive with it.
What's the best armor with it? The cerberus assault armor?
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now that I've gotten comfortable with the vanguard I am ridiculously aggressive with it
now I'm on Veteran, not insanity so there's that
if you go for the biggest, baddest guy they got and take him down fights can end absurdly quickly
I often only need the three shots currently in my eviscerator to end a fight
Assault armor or power armor?
*torpedoes are fired*
Uhh, Commander, remember what happened on Therum? How the entire place was collapsing around you? Yeah, the architecture here wasn't exactly designed to take disruptor torpedoes. You better get out of there FAST.