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Encouraging significant other to recompensate backrubs

MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
edited February 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
My fiance is apparently hesitant when it comes to massages. We both have hard days of work, and it's nice to come home and take turns rubbing out the pain and such. Nice bonding time and all that. No, I'm not looking for any 'happy endings' ... but the problem is that she tells me she fells awkward when trying to give me deep massages, or most any rubbings. What usually ends up happening is that after I've given her a combination of a nice slow rub and 'goosebumps', which is just dragging my fingertips up and down her back and sides, she'll end up starting to rub my shoulders, awkwardly, and just go into giving goosebumps. Which feels good, but on days like now, where I've been bent over for 8 hours, I need something more.

How can I help encourage her to give massages or better rub downs? The few times she does, it's usually tight and slightly painful on my clavicle bone or spine. And not the kind of pain that ends up releasing endorphins or whathaveyou, and feels good later. No, just the pain. She's also commented that it feels like she might be hurting me because I'm not skin-and-bones, but pretty lean in between muscles.

So short of paying for a semester of Massage Therapy at the local community college, is there a good way to go about changing our ways?

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  • Patrick RipollPatrick Ripoll Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    What does she find awkward about giving you a massage? Is she just weird with affection in general?

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  • PheezerPheezer Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2010
    Maybe she's just never been expected to do this before. Haven't you ever had a girlfriend who's never given a blowjob before?

    Same rules: Patience, explaining what you like, open communication, practice and patience. Or just giving up and paying a massage therapist.

    I uhhh didn't mean that to imply that dudes who aren't getting BJs should visit prostitutes.

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  • WezoinWezoin Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Just tell her to trust you, and you will tell her when it hurts and when it is working for you. Give her advice, it's kind of like sex - just takes a while to learn what each other is into.

    Also, I know a girl who goes to a massage therapist regularly and she says it REALLY hurts every time she goes but she feels a lot better after. I'm not saying pain is necessarily a good thing in a massage, just that it can occur even when being done properly (apparently, YMMV)

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    What does she find awkward about giving you a massage? Is she just weird with affection in general?

    Not at all. I think part of it is physically different for her ... she doesn't like the feeling of squeezing skin or something.
    Pheezer wrote: »
    Maybe she's just never been expected to do this before. Haven't you ever had a girlfriend who's never given a blowjob before?

    Same rules: Patience, explaining what you like, open communication, practice and patience. Or just giving up and paying a massage therapist.

    The one and only time I paid for a massage was at Denver Airport as I was waiting for a late flight. It was one of those $20 for 15 minute deals, and as nice as it was, it felt otherwise forgettable. Possibly because of the masseuse, possibly because I realized how much nicer any physical touch is when my fiance is the one doing the touching.
    Wezoin wrote: »
    Just tell her to trust you, and you will tell her when it hurts and when it is working for you. Give her advice, it's kind of like sex - just takes a while to learn what each other is into.

    Also, I know a girl who goes to a massage therapist regularly and she says it REALLY hurts every time she goes but she feels a lot better after. I'm not saying pain is necessarily a good thing in a massage, just that it can occur even when being done properly (apparently, YMMV)

    I've heard of that kind of 'deep tissue massage' or however it goes, that supposedly released toxins and all that stuff. If nothing else, I'm assuming it's just releasing the lactic acid buildup, which by following with liquids and rest, refreshes you wholly. The pain I've gotten just feels like pinching sore spots, not a kind of pressure->release->soreness(later)->ahhhh(the next day).

    Are there any good websites or books or advice for the amateur masseuse out there?

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  • AlyceInWonderlandAlyceInWonderland Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Does she use any kind of oil or lotion when massaging you? I know when I give my boyfriend backrubs I hate the feeling of rubbing his skin too hard, because there's friction and I feel like I'm hurting him, so I kind of refrain from giving him full rubdowns (I guess I should buy some oils, huh?). The oils will make it a lot smoother, and will lessen the friction a LOT. I guess you could compare it to a dry blow job Vs. a wet one. Obviously the wet one feels better for both parties because there's a lot less painful friction on the skin.


    Now, when someone's not good at something, they tend to get embarrassed if asked to do that thing. I guess be more encouraging when she's actually trying to massage you, tell her it feels good and that she's doing a great job. If she believes she's good at it, she'll most likely continue for a longer amount of time.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    If she feels awkward about giving you a massage in private then she might feel awkward about this too, but there is something between self-taught and paying to become a massage therapist at community college. When I used to edit newsletters for hospitals, there were a lot of listings for free/cheap short-term commitment classes for couples' massage. If you have something like that in your area it could be something silly/fun to do together on a Saturday that's also informative and will get you what you want.

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  • travathiantravathian Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Buy a video that shows how to actually properly massage, watch it together, practice on each other? maybe part of her issue is not knowing proper technique and being shown it in the privacy of your home will help get the courage to mvoe forward.

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  • DorkmanDorkman Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I know I have seen couples classes on how to give massages in the past. Maybe it may be worth looking into one of these. Maybe she just doesn't know HOW to give a massage, or at least doesn't feel confident in her latent masseuse abilities.

    I haven't seen these classes very often, but I have seen them before. May be worth looking into.

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  • ImprovoloneImprovolone Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Definitely take a couples class, well, ask if she'd like to.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    This is the way it is in my relationship. I can crack his back (though it makes me super paranoid I'll hurt him and I do this rarely because fuck if I know how to do it properly) and I can rub his shoulders a bit, otherwise I'm not comfortable giving him a massage. He's a big guy and I've hurt him rubbing the wrong way or too hard in certain spots and trial by error doesn't seem appropriate when I could really hurt him. I have no intention to pay to learn to do something I don't want to do either.

    Not everyone wants to give rub downs. I don't know about your gf but when my bf used to pester me about giving him a massage that I didn't know how to/didn't feel comfortable to/didn't want to it just pissed me off and felt like he wasn't listening to me when I said that I didn't know how to/didn't feel comfortable to/didn't want to.

    So if you want a massage stop thinking that being in a relationship means having a free masseuse and pay a professional to do it. And if its so bad that you need something more then you're probably better off seeing a trained professional who will give you a proper massage instead of someone just going blindly.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I think the couples massage class is a fantastic idea, but you also might want to take an objective look at your attitude. She shouldn't have to compensate for you giving her a backrub, and it may be that she thinks you're only massaging her back in order to get your own backrub on. And after a long day at work, sometimes the last thing you want to do is feel like you have to rub the hell out of somebody's back when you're really not in the mood.

    Also, are you really sure that she enjoys receiving the massage? If she's feeling awkward or uncomfortable about being on the receiving end it would definitely translate to when she's trying to perform massage on you.

    That said, a good sit down conversation about this is probably in order, and if she continues to feel uncomfortable with giving you a backrub I'd suggest getting yourself one of those chair massager things.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I'm in the same boat. It doesn't bother me, I just masseubate. The parts that I can't reach, I put a tennis ball against a wall and roll it between my back and the wall, getting into all those deep parts. You can also get those roller sticks that runners use, although you can do pretty well with just your hands and a tennis ball.

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  • TrusTrus Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    I think that if your fiance doesn't like/enjoy giving "back rubs" you should probably stop trying to make her give you them.

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  • rizriz Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Well, not necessarily. If the problem is that she feels awkward and unsure of how to do it, that can be fixed. He didn't say she is opposed to the idea entirely.

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    edited February 2010
    Thanks for the advice. And for the record, I'm not begging, trying to coerce, or otherwise holding this against her. She's expressed that she wants to give me rubs back, but it's weird for her as described, so she uses the goosebumps.

    Last night she offered to rub me down, out of the blue, and if there were any 'off' spots, I told her what felt better and the whole thing went down better. I'm gonna ask her about the couples classes, see if that's something we'd like to do on our weekendnights together (though after the wedding when we actually have money).

    Thanks for all the advice guys (and gals).

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