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that really sucks. one of my worst fears throughout college...
i'd recommend a 999 macbook. A laptop is a long term thing, so unless you're buying a netbook, it doesn't make sense to try and save 300 bucks for something like this.
also, get one of those laptop backpacks- if you have your laptop in a case, and then secured in a laptop compartment, with textbooks and other crap in the section in front, it's a lot more likely to survive falls.
I disagree about a laptop being a long-term thing. I think you're way better off buying a $600 laptop every two years than buying one $1800 laptop and expecting it to last six years.
When you say "photoshop/corel drawing," how heavy-duty are we talking?
I made the switch to Mac and I love it. I have the 15' MBP, which is total overkill for everything I do, and I had every intention of getting the 13' MacBook. My sister has one and I loved it. Perfect size and it could do everything I wanted it too.
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
My other sister has a cheap Vaio (I assume its cheap, I dont know how much she paid for it, it feels cheap anyway) and I have to say its terrible in comparison. On top of feeling cheap it has a much shorter battery life (I use my laptop all day, screwing around on the internet and taking notes during class (typical day is 6+hours of usage before charging) and I usually have an hour or so before the battery dies). Its gotten to the point where I dont even take a charger because I dont want to carry it around. The controls on her computer seem super limited too. I think she has like 4 different brightness options, as compared to my sisters 3 year old MacBook which has 16 (my MBP does too).
I bought a Dell Inspiron in preparation for my freshman year of college and it didnt even make it the first year. Went the rest of undergrad without a laptop.
If you have the money for a Mac, get one. Best decision ever.
Edit: There are some downsides to getting a Mac though. I think they only come with glossy screens (if you order online you may be able to order it without gloss) which isnt great for doing shit with photoshop as the colors youre seeing wont be the same as the colors on other peoples. Also, theyre expensive? (I dont really think so, if youre going for the higher end MBPs then yeah, theyre overpriced, but the normal MacBook is pretty fairly priced for its build quality and the specs youre getting.)
I made the switch to Mac and I love it. I have the 15' MBP, which is total overkill for everything I do, and I had every intention of getting the 13' MacBook. My sister has one and I loved it. Perfect size and it could do everything I wanted it too.
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
My other sister has a cheap Vaio (I assume its cheap, I dont know how much she paid for it, it feels cheap anyway) and I have to say its terrible in comparison. On top of feeling cheap it has a much shorter battery life (I use my laptop all day, screwing around on the internet and taking notes during class (typical day is 6+hours of usage before charging) and I usually have an hour or so before the battery dies). Its gotten to the point where I dont even take a charger because I dont want to carry it around. The controls on her computer seem super limited too. I think she has like 4 different brightness options, as compared to my sisters 3 year old MacBook which has 16 (my MBP does too).
I bought a Dell Inspiron in preparation for my freshman year of college and it didnt even make it the first year. Went the rest of undergrad without a laptop.
If you have the money for a Mac, get one. Best decision ever.
Edit: There are some downsides to getting a Mac though. I think they only come with glossy screens (if you order online you may be able to order it without gloss) which isnt great for doing shit with photoshop as the colors youre seeing wont be the same as the colors on other peoples. Also, theyre expensive? (I dont really think so, if youre going for the higher end MBPs then yeah, theyre overpriced, but the normal MacBook is pretty fairly priced for its build quality and the specs youre getting.)
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I made the switch to Mac and I love it. I have the 15' MBP, which is total overkill for everything I do, and I had every intention of getting the 13' MacBook. My sister has one and I loved it. Perfect size and it could do everything I wanted it too.
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
Those are some HUGE laptops. Are you a giant?
All joking aside, I've always loved my Macs. I'll third, fourth, or whatever the suggestion to get a MacBook (not a Pro though) for what you need.
I purchased my thinkpad x40 one year into my undergrad ($1500, included 3 years accidental/overnight). It's now 5.5 years later and the thing works as new. Well, the keyboard is pretty dirty, and some stickers fell off the bottom.
I totaled it twice. Once I crushed the screen with far more books than my bag was meant to contain, another time the rain got it through my bag. Both times IBM had me a new laptop (with my old harddrive) within 48 hours.
Whatever you do, get accidental protection. An additional maybe $300 for three years of protection is essentially a guarantee that your laptop will still be working perfectly for three years -- all that's left for you to worry about is "don't lose it".
And I suggest a thinkpad. An X series if you don't need an optical drive (and, I suspect, most people do not); a T series if you do. I'm going to be replacing my ancient x40 with an x201s when it comes out in a month.
I made the switch to Mac and I love it. I have the 15' MBP, which is total overkill for everything I do, and I had every intention of getting the 13' MacBook. My sister has one and I loved it. Perfect size and it could do everything I wanted it too.
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
Those are some HUGE laptops. Are you a giant?
All joking aside, I've always loved my Macs. I'll third, fourth, or whatever the suggestion to get a MacBook (not a Pro though) for what you need.
the 15" MBP is not teh hueg. mine fits well in every backpack i've owned, and I even have one of those generic Jansports.
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DVGNo. 1 Honor StudentNether Institute, Evil AcademyRegistered Userregular
edited February 2010
I'd get the 13" MacBook Pro. I say this because I'm getting it in two weeks and I'm frothing with excitement about it.
Also: Order from Amazon. It's $50 cheaper than the Apple store, you'll save around $75 in sales tax and it'll ship for free.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
edited February 2010
Are you in school/working at a school? If you get a mac, don't forget the educational discount, knocks off 10%.
I know that this has already turned into a mac love-in...
...but you can install windows too. I mention this, because this was the safetynet I needed to switch to mac. I haven't booted up in windows for well over a year. Hmmm... *wanders off to reclaim some of his HD*
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
I know that this has already turned into a mac love-in...
...but you can install windows too. I mention this, because this was the safetynet I needed to switch to mac. I haven't booted up in windows for well over a year. Hmmm... *wanders off to reclaim some of his HD*
VMWare Fusion and Parallels are also great for running Windows inside Mac OS X without having to reboot, and depending on your machine can run most games as well. I've got a 3 year old MBP and I can run Torchlight at least (haven't tried pushing it harder, but apparently you can play L4D and similar games).
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I made the switch to Mac and I love it. I have the 15' MBP, which is total overkill for everything I do, and I had every intention of getting the 13' MacBook. My sister has one and I loved it. Perfect size and it could do everything I wanted it too.
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
Those are some HUGE laptops. Are you a giant?
All joking aside, I've always loved my Macs. I'll third, fourth, or whatever the suggestion to get a MacBook (not a Pro though) for what you need.
the 15" MBP is not teh hueg. mine fits well in every backpack i've owned, and I even have one of those generic Jansports.
Look at your post. You described yourself as having a 15 FOOT MacBook.
I'd suggest going the PC route and getting an Asus.
There are netbooks, small and light models that are pretty powerful, and pimped to the nines desktop replacement computers to choose from. I just got my pimped to the nines laptop back from an RMA.
I spilled tea on it, after a year and a half of using the silly buggers out of it, and fried the motherboard. It had been overheating previously, so I sent it back, praying that they'd write the damage off as heat related. Well, not only did they completely replace the motherboard, they found a bad track on the harddrive and replaced it, as well as squirrel damage to they keyboard and damage on my part to the lcd. They even replaced the top shell of the laptop, where it was a bit dinged up due to normal use.
They sent a Fed Ex guy to pick up the computer from my house, and sent it overnight both ways, complimentary.
Oh yeah, they also re-imaged my harddrive so that it had all my old files, history, programs and even the firefox tabs open at the time of the incident. It's literally as good as new.
Total time out of my hands: 1 week
Total cost to me: $0
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They cast a shadow like a sundial in the morning light. It was half past 10.
I disagree about a laptop being a long-term thing. I think you're way better off buying a $600 laptop every two years than buying one $1800 laptop and expecting it to last six years.
Macs(especially entry level) are way way way over priced. $999 is not an entry level price point for a laptop; you can get compatible hardware on a PC laptop for half the price, and desktop replacement stuff starts round $900. Consider that with the Mac your grand is only getting you a 13.3" screen, no HDMI port, only 2gb of memory, and a small HDD. Its more of a netbook, than a laptop.
I got This in Nov and am happy with it and for $475 its amazing. It runs HoN and Torchlight, I use photoshop on it no problem. My GF and 2 of my friends have had good experience with Asus stuff, if you decide to listen to Trillian. Also I've seen some <$700 deals on laptops with blu-ray drives if you don't have a player/PS3. Like This One If you have a HD TV with a HDMI port, its worth going to blu-ray.
In summary get a PC with better stuff, use half of $500 you save to buy the "I can chuck it in a pool and they'll replace it warranty". Then spend the remaining $250 on hookers.
PC: Bigger screen, colors other than white, cheaper, better specs, cheaper, HDMI, super warranty and sex.
Mac: Small, hip, expensive, no HDMI, stupid apple video port(aka not VGA or DVI for 2nd screen), no-sex.
I think what it comes down to, Awk, is how price-sensitive you are. If you're looking to spend some serious money, Apple may be what you want. If you're looking for a good value as far as getting a large amount of function out of a smaller price, you're probably going to be better off with a PC.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
Also I wouldn't drop a pile of money on a mac unless you've tried them before. Some people just don't click with Macs, so if there's an Apple store nearby you should tool around with the machines there, or if you have a friend who'll let you play with his for a bit.
Also also, upgrades to the Macbook Pro line are overdue, so if you decide you want to get one of those you should wait until the update hits. Even if you don't want the newer models, it'll knock a chunk off the price of the older ones.
In all honesty ill probably stick with the PC, naturally. Ill be probing for a decently priced mid-powered machine for a bit now. Holler if you see something of interest!
I made the switch to Mac and I love it. I have the 15' MBP, which is total overkill for everything I do, and I had every intention of getting the 13' MacBook. My sister has one and I loved it. Perfect size and it could do everything I wanted it too.
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
Those are some HUGE laptops. Are you a giant?
All joking aside, I've always loved my Macs. I'll third, fourth, or whatever the suggestion to get a MacBook (not a Pro though) for what you need.
the 15" MBP is not teh hueg. mine fits well in every backpack i've owned, and I even have one of those generic Jansports.
Look at your post. You described yourself as having a 15 FOOT MacBook.
ack, even though it wasn't me who made the first post I kick myself for missing the joke.
My girlfriend just bought a Lenovo Thinkpad SL410 and she's really happy with it. Light, no-nonsense, beefy enough to run CS3 without drama. Decent battery life at 3.5ish hours. They also make a 15.6"screen version, the SL510. The only complaint so far is the buggy lenovo touchpad drivers and wireless management but it's not really an issue, they're easy enough to remove and the windows driver works fine for the touchpoint/pad+buttons. Construction is solid, display is clean and bright, hdmi out, and the keyboard has spill drains (and they work, this was tested out thoroughly about 3 days after purchase). It's a good machine so far.
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KalTorakOne way or another, they all end up inthe Undercity.Registered Userregular
I purchased my thinkpad x40 one year into my undergrad ($1500, included 3 years accidental/overnight). It's now 5.5 years later and the thing works as new. Well, the keyboard is pretty dirty, and some stickers fell off the bottom.
I totaled it twice. Once I crushed the screen with far more books than my bag was meant to contain, another time the rain got it through my bag. Both times IBM had me a new laptop (with my old harddrive) within 48 hours.
Whatever you do, get accidental protection. An additional maybe $300 for three years of protection is essentially a guarantee that your laptop will still be working perfectly for three years -- all that's left for you to worry about is "don't lose it".
And I suggest a thinkpad. An X series if you don't need an optical drive (and, I suspect, most people do not); a T series if you do. I'm going to be replacing my ancient x40 with an x201s when it comes out in a month.
Generally speaking, build quality on ThinkPads has really suffered over the past couple years. What were once solid machines are now no better than your average Dell or HP system.
I have a 4 year old ThinkPad whose monitor finally just died. I was going to replace it with a new ThinkPad, but as I read more about the build quality issues, I settled on an ASUS instead.
In all honesty ill probably stick with the PC, naturally. Ill be probing for a decently priced mid-powered machine for a bit now. Holler if you see something of interest!
If you live in Vancouver, or the surrounds, they have a few brick and mortar stores in the area.
I HIGHLY recommend checking them out; it's always chaos in there on the weekends for a reason.
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i'd recommend a 999 macbook. A laptop is a long term thing, so unless you're buying a netbook, it doesn't make sense to try and save 300 bucks for something like this.
also, get one of those laptop backpacks- if you have your laptop in a case, and then secured in a laptop compartment, with textbooks and other crap in the section in front, it's a lot more likely to survive falls.
When you say "photoshop/corel drawing," how heavy-duty are we talking?
The reason I chose the 15' MBP was for the second 'real' video card it has. Plus I really like the aluminum look and I think the screens on the 15' were better than those on the 13' at the time I bought (this was September 2009). All in all I fully recommend a Mac.
My other sister has a cheap Vaio (I assume its cheap, I dont know how much she paid for it, it feels cheap anyway) and I have to say its terrible in comparison. On top of feeling cheap it has a much shorter battery life (I use my laptop all day, screwing around on the internet and taking notes during class (typical day is 6+hours of usage before charging) and I usually have an hour or so before the battery dies). Its gotten to the point where I dont even take a charger because I dont want to carry it around. The controls on her computer seem super limited too. I think she has like 4 different brightness options, as compared to my sisters 3 year old MacBook which has 16 (my MBP does too).
I bought a Dell Inspiron in preparation for my freshman year of college and it didnt even make it the first year. Went the rest of undergrad without a laptop.
If you have the money for a Mac, get one. Best decision ever.
Edit: There are some downsides to getting a Mac though. I think they only come with glossy screens (if you order online you may be able to order it without gloss) which isnt great for doing shit with photoshop as the colors youre seeing wont be the same as the colors on other peoples. Also, theyre expensive? (I dont really think so, if youre going for the higher end MBPs then yeah, theyre overpriced, but the normal MacBook is pretty fairly priced for its build quality and the specs youre getting.)
"Thoughts are a persons imagination going rampid…" - ME
Those are some HUGE laptops. Are you a giant?
All joking aside, I've always loved my Macs. I'll third, fourth, or whatever the suggestion to get a MacBook (not a Pro though) for what you need.
I totaled it twice. Once I crushed the screen with far more books than my bag was meant to contain, another time the rain got it through my bag. Both times IBM had me a new laptop (with my old harddrive) within 48 hours.
Whatever you do, get accidental protection. An additional maybe $300 for three years of protection is essentially a guarantee that your laptop will still be working perfectly for three years -- all that's left for you to worry about is "don't lose it".
And I suggest a thinkpad. An X series if you don't need an optical drive (and, I suspect, most people do not); a T series if you do. I'm going to be replacing my ancient x40 with an x201s when it comes out in a month.
the 15" MBP is not teh hueg. mine fits well in every backpack i've owned, and I even have one of those generic Jansports.
Also: Order from Amazon. It's $50 cheaper than the Apple store, you'll save around $75 in sales tax and it'll ship for free.
...but you can install windows too. I mention this, because this was the safetynet I needed to switch to mac. I haven't booted up in windows for well over a year. Hmmm... *wanders off to reclaim some of his HD*
VMWare Fusion and Parallels are also great for running Windows inside Mac OS X without having to reboot, and depending on your machine can run most games as well. I've got a 3 year old MBP and I can run Torchlight at least (haven't tried pushing it harder, but apparently you can play L4D and similar games).
Look at your post. You described yourself as having a 15 FOOT MacBook.
There are netbooks, small and light models that are pretty powerful, and pimped to the nines desktop replacement computers to choose from. I just got my pimped to the nines laptop back from an RMA.
I spilled tea on it, after a year and a half of using the silly buggers out of it, and fried the motherboard. It had been overheating previously, so I sent it back, praying that they'd write the damage off as heat related. Well, not only did they completely replace the motherboard, they found a bad track on the harddrive and replaced it, as well as squirrel damage to they keyboard and damage on my part to the lcd. They even replaced the top shell of the laptop, where it was a bit dinged up due to normal use.
They sent a Fed Ex guy to pick up the computer from my house, and sent it overnight both ways, complimentary.
Oh yeah, they also re-imaged my harddrive so that it had all my old files, history, programs and even the firefox tabs open at the time of the incident. It's literally as good as new.
Total time out of my hands: 1 week
Total cost to me: $0
They cast a shadow like a sundial in the morning light. It was half past 10.
Macs(especially entry level) are way way way over priced. $999 is not an entry level price point for a laptop; you can get compatible hardware on a PC laptop for half the price, and desktop replacement stuff starts round $900. Consider that with the Mac your grand is only getting you a 13.3" screen, no HDMI port, only 2gb of memory, and a small HDD. Its more of a netbook, than a laptop.
I got This in Nov and am happy with it and for $475 its amazing. It runs HoN and Torchlight, I use photoshop on it no problem. My GF and 2 of my friends have had good experience with Asus stuff, if you decide to listen to Trillian. Also I've seen some <$700 deals on laptops with blu-ray drives if you don't have a player/PS3. Like This One If you have a HD TV with a HDMI port, its worth going to blu-ray.
In summary get a PC with better stuff, use half of $500 you save to buy the "I can chuck it in a pool and they'll replace it warranty". Then spend the remaining $250 on hookers.
PC: Bigger screen, colors other than white, cheaper, better specs, cheaper, HDMI, super warranty and sex.
Mac: Small, hip, expensive, no HDMI, stupid apple video port(aka not VGA or DVI for 2nd screen), no-sex.
Also also, upgrades to the Macbook Pro line are overdue, so if you decide you want to get one of those you should wait until the update hits. Even if you don't want the newer models, it'll knock a chunk off the price of the older ones.
ack, even though it wasn't me who made the first post I kick myself for missing the joke.
It was awesome in Spinal Tap.
these people are known as silly geese
No need to get all Obs about it.
Generally speaking, build quality on ThinkPads has really suffered over the past couple years. What were once solid machines are now no better than your average Dell or HP system.
I have a 4 year old ThinkPad whose monitor finally just died. I was going to replace it with a new ThinkPad, but as I read more about the build quality issues, I settled on an ASUS instead.
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970666737/
oh shit, you're Canadian!
www.ncix.com
If you live in Vancouver, or the surrounds, they have a few brick and mortar stores in the area.
I HIGHLY recommend checking them out; it's always chaos in there on the weekends for a reason.
They cast a shadow like a sundial in the morning light. It was half past 10.