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Final Fantasy: Don't Wanna Start Again, No They Don't Wanna Understand

Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
edited March 2010 in Games and Technology
This is a Final Fantasy thread. We talk about Final Fantasy and vaguely Final Fantasy-related things.

But mostly we'll be talking about the long awaited:
FINAL FANTASY XIII

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Oh yeah, this game is out in a week, isn't it? I don't blame you for forgetting about it. Despite Square's promises for a multimillion advertising blitz, a smug online campaign consisting of actors posing as Square Enix managers and Leona Lewis comically holding a controller while being told to scare at a blank screen and pretend she's experiencing a wonderful fantasy adventure, offline buzz has been almost nonexistent.

So what's the story with this game? If the internet is considered a valid source of unbiased information and informative, level-headed forum goers, this is instantly the worst Final Fantasy game ever, if not the worst videogame ever. FFXIII has the audacity to do something new and different with the series when every other game followed a specific formula that has never been altered. It is a stain on an established franchise that everyone will instantly abandon until Final Fantasy XIV is released, in which comparisons will be made over how Final Fantasy XIII was absolutely perfect and the next game is now the worst game ever made.

No, I mean what's the story with this game. The plot.Oh. Well from my understanding, there are two cities, Pulse and Cocoon, where these people called the fal'Cie and the l'Cie live, and....

Yeah okay, I don't really know. Basically the good guys, your party members, have been branded by some evil(?) God(??), and are deemed as threats to the planet, and therefore hunted across every corner of the world while using the power of their Summons to fend off attackers.

In short, it's kind of like Berserk, only with a lot less
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and a lot more
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I heard this game was linear. Like straight path linear. That seems to be the buzzword associated with this game. Taking a cue from FFX but streamlining things even further, Final Fantasy XIII's areas consist of straight and specific paths while eliminating towns, equipment, and other instances of RPG filler. The streamlining could be seen as a positive step forward for the series, as Mass Effect 2 has shown that less can equal more. Or it could be seen as a lazy result of Japan's failure to grasp next gen technology.

Which version should I get, 360 or PS3?
At this point it's been established by everyone and their mothers that the PS3 version is the superior of the two, featuring 1080p FMVs and better textures all in one disc. That said, the 360 version is still a worthy port in its own right, and nowhere near as disastrous as, say, The Orange Box on PS3. Of course people consider the fact it's on the Xbox at all is an unforgivable betrayal by Square, as bad as when they moved from Nintendo to work on the Playstation, proving how fanboy bitching can transcend three consoles.

Isn't there another game with XIII on the title? Something about a badass guy who has levitating swords and drives a car? That's Final Fantasy Versus XIII, which doesn't connect to the "vanilla" FFXIII at all. The "Versus" in the title refers to Testuya Nomura's own alternate take on what Final Fantasy's thirteenth game should be like. Which one will end up the better game? One thing's for certain....fans will endlessly bitch about it, then play it and love it. Then bitch about it a month later.

So who are the characters in this game? I'm glad you (I) asked. Here they are!

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Girl Cloud: Unable to deal with Aerith's death no matter how much sex Tifa gives him, Cloud has regressed to reliving his past moments with the deceased flower girl by wearing the dress she picked out for him while finding new adventures in a distant land.

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Scruffy Looking Beanie Guy: A reverse weaboo who delivers long speeches about heroism and fighting no matter how tough the odds are, but also leaves his face unshaven while wearing a beanie so American gamers will find him hip and edgy.

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Chocolate Man V.3 The latest model in the Chocolate Man production factory, Version 3 is a more portable and streamlined model of V2 while further reducing the controversial design specs seen in V1.

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The Great White Hope: The token bishonen character, who is instantly hated upon from people who have yet to recover from He Who Shall Not Be Named from Final Fantasy XII.

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Vanilla All Over My Face: Also a token character, but she's female and cute, so it's okay. Also might be a lesbian, which is totally hot.

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Girl Zack: After finally breaking things off with Girl Cloud, Girl Zack seeks comfort in the group's cute, questionably legal Australian. Internet users worldwide scour 4chan daily while awaiting the eventual hentai comics.
and then log out once one or both girls end up having a penis. then log back in again out of curiosity

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  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Huzzah!

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ah...congratulations?

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  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Little did you know, XoB intended for you to take over on this one, so he could merely point out the flaws in your ways.

    Thrice sir, thrice.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Don't listen to jack eddy's lies!

    Rent on
  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Rent wrote: »
    Don't listen to jack eddy's lies!

    But rent always tells the truth.

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    FF X replay

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    God of War 1&2 HD
    Rachet and Clank Future
    MGS 4
    Prince of Persia

    360
    Bayonetta
    Fable 3

    DS
    FF: 4 heroes of light
  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Little did you know, XoB intended for you to take over on this one, so he could merely point out the flaws in your ways.

    Thrice sir, thrice.

    Keikaku means plan...

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  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I look forward to completely ignoring your OP, yes.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Rent wrote: »
    Don't listen to jack eddy's lies!

    But rent always tells the truth.

    You spoony bard!

    Rent on
  • jeddy leejeddy lee Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'm really having second thoughts about my decision to do FFxiii on PS3, and am considering switching my amazon preorder to the 360... On the one hand the ps3 version is supposedly ever so slightly better, but my main reserves is that I have hardly any ps3 games, and sony screwed me out of BC this generation, and will likely do so again in the future...

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    MGS 4
    Prince of Persia

    360
    Bayonetta
    Fable 3

    DS
    FF: 4 heroes of light
  • smeejsmeej Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Hear me Rent. Do not think killing the threadslayer will win you back your honor. When you abandoned thread and PAers, your name was forever stained with blood.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    jack eddy wrote: »
    Little did you know, XoB intended for you to take over on this one, so he could merely point out the flaws in your ways.

    Thrice sir, thrice.

    Keikaku means plan...

    Perhaps XoB has been dead the whole time and the thread was just his memories playing out

    Or XoB succeeded in his plan on destroying the boards in his thread with the unholy power of the Wheee'A'Bou

    Or XoB went crazy from his time as OP and has gone rogue. Only WANG can take him down now

    Or XoB is actually Prof Snugglesworth's mom from the future

    Rent on
  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    jack eddy wrote: »
    I'm really having second thoughts about my decision to do FFxiii on PS3, and am considering switching my amazon preorder to the 360... On the one hand the ps3 version is supposedly ever so slightly better, but my main reserves is that I have hardly any ps3 games, and sony screwed me out of BC this generation, and will likely do so again in the future...

    So you're not getting a PS3 game because of the lack of backwards compatibility, yet purchasing the same game on a different console that no longer supports backwards compatibility and charges you for peer-to-peer online gaming. You really are sticking it to the man.

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  • RentRent I'm always right Fuckin' deal with itRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    smeej wrote: »
    Hear me Rent. Do not think killing the threadslayer will win you back your honor. When you abandoned thread and PAers, your name was forever stained with blood.

    I'm a god! I'm all-powerful! Uwee-hee-hee... I'll collect more Posters...I'll extract their magic... And then... ... ... I'll revive the Warring OPs! I've already drained all your powers! You're useless to me now! You too! Take a hike!

    Rent on
  • smeejsmeej Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Preen and strut as you like! In the end, we are the same. Blood-thirsting posters, hell-bent on quoting!

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So, uh, anyone have tips on tracking down a PS3 in the next week?

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  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Go to the store and buy one?

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  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like a silly goose there. I just didn't think they were rare nowadays.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Extremely.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The Sneak! wrote: »
    Go to the store and buy one?

    Apparently there's a shortage problem all of the sudden.

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  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Oh.

    Um, why exactly are they selling out everywhere?

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Because of supply constraints brought on by people actually wanting to buy PS3s now.

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Heavy Rain, God of War 3, FFXIII.

    I do want one too I gotta say.

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  • The Sneak!The Sneak! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    That makes sense. I'm just not used to the idea of PS3s being out of stock since they were first released.

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I've been to Target, Sears, Gamestop, Bestbuy, Toys R Us, and even a small chain called Play N Trade. The guy at Gamestop was like, "there's a massive shortage in this area, for reasons unknown. Do you want to Pre-order a PS3?" Looking online, most of those online retailers seemed to be sold out, and Amazon was marked up I think 60 or 70 dollars, to the point buying a 250g would be cheaper. I don't really feel like paying any mark up though, so, thus my conundrum.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    OP has been updated. Judge it harshly.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    This thread's OP was humorous enough for me to actually consider getting this game. :p

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I judge it with only one thumb up. The second thumb is withheld.

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I for one welcome our lesbian bike overlords.

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Versus XIII is honestly more interesting.
    Nomura can't tell a story, but he can do crazy LSD setpieces like no-one else.

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  • KastanjKastanj __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    My kind of thread.

    So, does anyone have the latest word on how XIII is doing in Japan saleswise, what with all the linearity/insane plot/no towns malingering?

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    You people couldn't go one page without screwing this thread up. That's it, I'm turning this Devil-Car around!

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  • Fig-DFig-D SoCalRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Kastanj wrote: »
    My kind of thread.

    So, does anyone have the latest word on how XIII is doing in Japan saleswise, what with all the linearity/insane plot/no towns malingering?

    I don't have current numbers, but as of the week ending January 24th, Final Fantasy XIII had sold about 1,861,700 copies in Japan. I'll do a bit of digging and see if I can find anything more recent, but I don't imagine the numbers would be radically different. The week of Jan 18 - 24 was the last week that FFXIII appeared in the Top 20 sales charts, selling ~7,500 copies that week.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I'm really curious about how Versus 13 would play out. When they first announced that there'd be a 13 as well as a Versus 13, I somehow got the idea that the games were connected in some way.

    Like perahps, you'd play as lightning and co. in regular 13, and during the story they regularly encounter a mysterious antagonist, and in Versus 13 you play the game from his perspective, running into Lightning's group every so often to fight as bosses.

    Sadly, they just appear to be completely different games that for some reason share the same number.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Astale wrote: »
    I uh, loved X-2's incredible amount of camp to death, and yet I'm thinking XIII is way too silly for me, to the point I actually don't want to get it now. Is that odd?

    To be fair, X-2 lacked lesbian hybrid motorcycles.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    OP lacks Serah.

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  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    I'm really curious about how Versus 13 would play out. When they first announced that there'd be a 13 as well as a Versus 13, I somehow got the idea that the games were connected in some way.

    Like perahps, you'd play as lightning and co. in regular 13, and during the story they regularly encounter a mysterious antagonist, and in Versus 13 you play the game from his perspective, running into Lightning's group every so often to fight as bosses.

    Sadly, they just appear to be completely different games that for some reason share the same number.

    The two apparently take place in the same universe/mythos, but there's no telling how that will actually play out. It sounds like it might be a vague, small, inconsequential connection.

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  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    OP lacks Serah.

    I can't think of anything funny to say without adding spoilers.

    Spoilers that everyone apparently knows about, since it's "so early it shouldn't be considered a spoiler", but still a spoiler in my book.

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  • RanadielRanadiel Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Oh also, Pulse is not a city. It is the "vast underworld filled with menace." Cocoon is the floating city where apparently everyone in the known world lives.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Dashui wrote: »
    Ranadiel wrote: »
    I'm really curious about how Versus 13 would play out. When they first announced that there'd be a 13 as well as a Versus 13, I somehow got the idea that the games were connected in some way.

    Like perahps, you'd play as lightning and co. in regular 13, and during the story they regularly encounter a mysterious antagonist, and in Versus 13 you play the game from his perspective, running into Lightning's group every so often to fight as bosses.

    Sadly, they just appear to be completely different games that for some reason share the same number.

    The two apparently take place in the same universe/mythos, but there's no telling how that will actually play out. It sounds like it might be a vague, small, inconsequential connection.

    I feel like someone who should know has told me before that Versus XIII is only called that for the sake of marketing it with a number because those sell better, and has little, if anything, to do with FFXIII.

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  • Proven MortalProven Mortal Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    "Streamlining" should only be used for cars in my opinion, I want towns, sidequests and quirky brilliant idea's !

    I even thought that FFX needed more of that stuff. :(

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