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Getting over an ex (PLOT THICKENS)

GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
edited January 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So my ex-girlfriend is going out with someone new now... well dating technically. It's been going on for a few weeks now but she just told me about it. I thought I was over her, but this news hurts. I knew it couldn't work out between us in the long run, but the thing is this is the first time this is happened to me.

She wasn't my first girlfriend and I didn't lose my virginity to her, but she is the first one I've really talked to after the relationship. Maybe this is because I work with her (shes sitting right behind me as I type this, we're in the same cube). She also is the one that I've cared the most about, I would say my first serious relationship. We went out for about a year and a half solid, then on and off for a few months and now it's been about a month I would say since our last encounter. My last girlfriend was in high school, so it had been a year or two between girlfriends. Plus I wasn't really all into the girl in high school and the break up was kind of nasty with me never really talking to her again.

Like I said I knew it wouldn't work out between us, but that doesn't mean I don't still like her in a way. I'm 22 now, I started going out with her when I was 20... she was 26 and is now 28 so all these questions are going on in my head. The new guy is 30, what does he have that I don't? Is it because he is older? Part of me knows that there is not necessarily anything wrong with me, things just didn't work out between us in the long run, but logic really isn't on my side right now.

So basically, my ex is going out with a new guy and this is the first time I've experienced something like this. I'm wondering what any of you who have been in a situation would do to get over this... because I know it's over but I don't want it to hinder my happiness because it's crying over spilled milk. And please, no just go out and get laid posts or anything... don't know what I'm really expecting maybe I just made this thread to get this off my chest because I don't really know who else to talk too ;p

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  • HazzelhoffHazzelhoff Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    first of all, request that you be transferred to a different cubicle

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Hazzelhoff wrote:
    first of all, request that you be transferred to a different cubicle

    Well I like where I sit. I work with some hostile people (for instance one of my coworkers made it so I was allowed to blow my nose at my desk anymore, made a whole big stink about it) and my boss, while I produce the best numbers out of anyone in my department, has it out for me so if I requested to be moved I would be in a worse situation. I actually like talking to her and I'm around other people that I like so I'd rather avoid this. Is it impossible to keep talking to her and not feel this way? Honestly, I feel better already getting that off my chest for all the anonymous people of teh internets to see.

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  • GrimmyTOAGrimmyTOA Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Getting over an ex is rough -- especially when you're right there beside her all the time. I think that Hazzlehoff's advice is actually pretty good. A bit of space would be a great thing. At least then you won't have to deal with the various milestones of a budding relationship at close-range.

    As far as what he has that you don't: try not to go down that road. You'll just drive yourself crazy worrying about it. It's probably as much about mindset as anything, anyway. The years between 22 and 26 and 30 change people utterly. As stupid and foolish as it sounds, it's probably as much about those changes (and where she sees herself heading) as anything else.

    Sometimes, I'm afraid, age is much more than just a number.

    Sorry if any of this sounds harsh. It's not meant to be, at all.

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  • lunarwulflunarwulf Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    It's almost unheard of for girls a few years older than you to stick with you or even consider you to be an equal with them. You might have been close, but she doesn't see you as being solid. This older guy seems solid to her and she may feel she has more in common with him because he can remember the same old shit she can. (He may actually feel that she doesn't have much in common with him, but guys don't leave girls just because they're younger).

    He is older, he's got that. Anything he does automatically seems more sophisticated and grown up than what you do.

    Best advice is to not maintain a friendship after the relationship is over. It just very rarely works out. Keep it minimal, erase all her numbers and contact info, take down pictures and keepsakes that remind you of her and put that shit away in a box somewhere. It's safe to say that she ain't coming back, so you can burn that box while you're at it. You don't have to be rude, if she wants to talk, then talk, but don't pursue any conversation with her.

    By her telling you that she's got a new guy, she's telling you that she's moved on. She may even be rubbing your face in it a little and using the "we're friends, so we talk about everything card" to abuse it. Especially if she senses that you'd like to get back together.

    The feelings you're having are normal, it's never easy to see your ex with someone new. We've all marked our territory a bit, sometimes it just takes someone else having what you had to point it out.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    GrimmyTOA wrote:
    It's probably as much about mindset as anything, anyway. The years between 22 and 26 and 30 change people utterly. As stupid and foolish as it sounds, it's probably as much about those changes (and where she sees herself heading) as anything else.

    Sometimes, I'm afraid, age is much more than just a number.

    Sorry if any of this sounds harsh. It's not meant to be, at all.

    QFT. You hit the nail right on the head there. I keep thinking all of her friends say I'm the one of the best boyfriends she ever had, and that I'm really mature for my age (and they are older than her, 29 - 35) and I keep thinking that the age thing is just a number. I'm wrong though, no matter how much I act comfortably and compose myself around these people I'll always have the youngin label because I still haven't experienced those years like she has. Don't worry about being too harsh, it's over and this is the shit I need to hear.
    lunarwulf wrote:
    It's almost unheard of for girls a few years older than you to stick with you or even consider you to be an equal with them. You might have been close, but she doesn't see you as being solid. This older guy seems solid to her and she may feel she has more in common with him because he can remember the same old shit she can. (He may actually feel that she doesn't have much in common with him, but guys don't leave girls just because they're younger).

    Yep, once again exactly right.
    By her telling you that she's got a new guy, she's telling you that she's moved on. She may even be rubbing your face in it a little and using the "we're friends, so we talk about everything card" to abuse it. Especially if she senses that you'd like to get back together.

    Well honestly the reason she even brought it up is because she used to let me use her Suicide Girls account but then changed the PW recently (she had given it out to too many people). She gave it to me and then changed it again. When I asked for it again she told me that it was best that I didn't look at it. Then she asked me if I was really over her, and at that point I knew what was up. Then she just started telling me about it and specifically said to me that the reason she hadn't told me yet is that she didn't want to rub it in my face.

    Also I am an asshole because we hung out on New Years and I told her about this encounter I had had a few days prior to that. I was having a party at my house and my friend brought over this girl who lived in New York (we are in Atlanta) and she basically was all over me while we were alone (I didn't do anything, there were too many people around to get anything going on, plus I felt guilty because it was my friends girl... and somewhere in the back of my mind I thought about my Ex). I told her about this to try to get her to move on, and myself to get over it but my logic might have been flawed there (and I might have been drunk, I thought I was being noble).

    She has lied to me in the past about having dates when we were on breaks to make me jealous, so it's possible in her twisted mind that she changed her password so I would ask about it again (because I asked the first time) specifically to rub it in my face without her being the bad guy by saying so out right. See how my logic is working right now, it's all a conspiracy!

    All in all I'd like to come out of this friends with her, since I am friends with all of her friends. It's really been so long since we were really intimate that I'm over it mostly. It was just nicer when we both were alone =/

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  • lunarwulflunarwulf Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Well, trod the line carefully. Having an older female friend and sharing friends is tricky. Your friends will probaly be more likely to take her side if you do something to upset her.

    As a bonus, if you behave yourself, maybe one day she'll hook you up with a hot friend of hers.

    You'll just have to get over the guy. Start dating yourself, go out and meet some new chicks.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So it turns out my ex is now dating my friend, not some generic 30 year old but my friend (and also my coworker). She is dating the person that comforted me when I was getting over her and I comforted him as he was getting over his ex. He took me out to strip bars to help me get over her. I was talking to him about how everyone I know has crush on her, and he told me he did not have a crush on her and told me I didn't have to worry he would NEVER go out with her.

    Every time I go in to work I have to see them both. I got really upset about this and really chewed her out. I couldn't help it I was just so infuriated, plus she lied to me about who the guy was. I was just beginning to accept the fact that she had some one new, I was almost happy that I knew I was totally out of the picture. Then the guy told me it was him when I was talking to him about how I was still a little bummed out about the whole situation.

    Now I'm thinking about getting a new job, I can't go in there every day and see them talking to each other and laughing. I'm already really miserable at my job, almost can't take it, and now this just puts me over the top. Thing is I just today moved out of my parents house into a new house down town and I can't pay rent and not work and being a full time college student my company allows me to only work 36 hours a week, so I can leave early on a few select days and get to school on time. How am I gonna get a job that pays as well as this one (14/hour) that will let me have the hours I need? And the school semester JUST started.

    Ugh, do I have a right to be upset here? I know of several situations where this has happened to friends (both old and young) and it all ended badly for them. I considered this a guy that I could trust, they admitted they knew I wouldn't be happy with this but felt that if two people could be a good match why should they worry about their ex's reaction?

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  • LewiePLewieP Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    personally, I would be happy for him, but he would no longer be a friend of mine.

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  • BbajBbaj Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You have every right to be upset. You'd think that he'd at least come and talk to you about the situation before you found out some other way.

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  • twmjrtwmjr Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Their logic about getting together is okay, but they were both still your friends and should have taken your feelings into account when deciding how they would go about it. Given the circumstances they should have been way more upfront with you, and I dare say you have a right to be upset. Now you just have to ask yourself how important these people are as friends. Yes, they screwed you over --- are they important enough that you can forgive them and learn to be happy/supportive of their relationship if it means their happiness? If so then, as much as it sucks, forgive how they handled the situation and try and just move forward (which, granted, might take some time). If you just can't see that happening, though...then don't put yourself through the misery of a process that you can't see ending in happiness for everyone involved.

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  • lunarwulflunarwulf Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    So it turns out my ex is now dating my friend, not some generic 30 year old but my friend (and also my coworker). She is dating the person that comforted me when I was getting over her and I comforted him as he was getting over his ex. He took me out to strip bars to help me get over her. I was talking to him about how everyone I know has crush on her, and he told me he did not have a crush on her and told me I didn't have to worry he would NEVER go out with her.

    Every time I go in to work I have to see them both. I got really upset about this and really chewed her out. I couldn't help it I was just so infuriated, plus she lied to me about who the guy was. I was just beginning to accept the fact that she had some one new, I was almost happy that I knew I was totally out of the picture. Then the guy told me it was him when I was talking to him about how I was still a little bummed out about the whole situation.

    Now I'm thinking about getting a new job, I can't go in there every day and see them talking to each other and laughing. I'm already really miserable at my job, almost can't take it, and now this just puts me over the top. Thing is I just today moved out of my parents house into a new house down town and I can't pay rent and not work and being a full time college student my company allows me to only work 36 hours a week, so I can leave early on a few select days and get to school on time. How am I gonna get a job that pays as well as this one (14/hour) that will let me have the hours I need? And the school semester JUST started.

    Ugh, do I have a right to be upset here? I know of several situations where this has happened to friends (both old and young) and it all ended badly for them. I considered this a guy that I could trust, they admitted they knew I wouldn't be happy with this but felt that if two people could be a good match why should they worry about their ex's reaction?

    This guy is a ball-less cockjocky, and you shouldn't have to deal with his cockjockery.

    No true friend dates another friend's ex without at least getting his permission, that's one of the bylaws in the Book of Men.

    You do have a right to be upset. These people are not your friends, obviously if they were both this close to you and neither decided to specify who the new person in their life was, then they were:
    A) Scared to say anything.
    B) Had some master plan to "break it to you gently".
    C) Both Cockjockeys.
    D) All of the above.

    I'm leaning towards D.

    Don't quit your job because of these people. You need that money and $14 an hour really isn't bad in ATL. Plus, it will give them an oppurtunity to talk shit and say things like: "He wasn't mature enough to handle it...", "He had to run away because he couldn't deal..." and if you still talk to them, they will pretend to still be your loyal friends.

    My advice: Keep your job (at least until you find a better one), ignore these people (no matter how crazy it makes you), start meeting new friends, go to bars and pick up random chicks or look for a new dating ground, and do not mix alcohol with your sorrows or bother confronting these people again (especially at work).

    Fucking monkey bastards, man. Monkey-fucking-bastards.

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  • EggyToastEggyToast Jersey CityRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Yeah, you have a right to be upset, but this is also the classic reason why it's "bad to fish off the company dock."

    Just realize that they were both pretty dick-ish about it. If you're someone's friend and you're going to hook up with their ex, either you think with your penis or you think with your brain. Brain says "Tell the guy, say you've been talking with the girl and you might take her out, and you wanted to clear the waters so there wasn't any bad blood." Penis says "she's hot, oh I have a friend?"

    I would personally ask to move cubes if you're unable to look for a new job. Being able to go to work and see them rarely if never will definitely help you feel better.

    Similarly, you may want to "crash course" some dates, or go out with friends more frequently. Do something so you realize that your life wasn't just "the girl," that you can have fun with other people and are still viable dating material. Think of your experience at this party -- the girl could've snubbed you, but she started goin' crazy. That's good! You're not some loser who can't ever find a girl (a better one at that), but just a normal guy who got shat on.

    So take a long bath, clean all the shit off and relax. Move your cube, and simply don't talk to them. They fucked you over, dude, and you have a right to be upset. You don't let someone cry on your shoulder and comfort them, only to fuck their ex behind their back. That's just rude. You don't have to say anything to either of them for the rest of your life if you don't want to.

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  • Mad JazzMad Jazz gotta go fast AustinRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    I was in a situation very, very similar to yours not that long ago, and the best advice I can give is to steer clear of them. It's been about 2 months since I've seen either of them, and I'm still not entirely sure I can be in the same room without getting pissed off and feeling hurt, but I sure as hell feel a lot better now than I did when I first found out about the whole thing (there was a lot of talking and fighting right after I found out, also...that part wasn't so hot). Switch cubes if you can, or if you can find a job that keeps you in the same comfort level and doesn't make you miserable (i.e., someplace you wouldn't hate working), jump ship and go over there. This doesn't get a whole lot easier, I'm sorry to say. Good luck, and hang in there.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    Man, thanks for all the advice guys. Feels good to talk about it. You're right if I quit my job that would just be running away from the situation, I was upset and over reacting. Fact is that it is over between me and her and I know that if I was with her I would not be as happy as if I found someone new. I figure I'll put my resume up on a couple of sites and see if anyone needs someone badly enough to work with me on a schedule, if nothing else this would be a good excuse to quit my job there.

    I'm still upset with both of them and how little respect they had for me. You guys are right, I was in constant contact with both of them and they kept it a secret from me. I like how lunar put it actually, ball-less cockjockery.
    EggyToast wrote:
    Yeah, you have a right to be upset, but this is also the classic reason why it's "bad to fish off the company dock."

    In my defense she got me the job there after we were dating :D

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    lunarwulf wrote:
    Start dating yourself, go out and meet some new chicks.

    Works every time.

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  • dsplaisteddsplaisted Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    You said that you don't want to ask to switch cubicles because your boss is a jerk or something. Well, maybe you could ask her nicely to ask to switch to a different cubicle. Hopefully she feels a bit bad for the way she treated you and is willing to do a little something to help you out.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    ege02 wrote:
    lunarwulf wrote:
    Start dating yourself, go out and meet some new chicks.

    Works every time.

    Well I went out to a bar last night and ended up meeting (or remeeting I should say) this girl from high school and damn she got good looking. And she plays Guitar Hero, also. I'm not totally into this girl, shes kind of the hip hop club goin chick and I'm more indie rock and metal (with some electronic music on the side), but I think we could have a good time together... I just dont think its a great great match. Should I pursue? I've already made up my mind about it just seeing what you guys suggest.

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  • HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    edited January 2007
    ege02 wrote:
    lunarwulf wrote:
    Start dating yourself, go out and meet some new chicks.

    Works every time.

    Well I went out to a bar last night and ended up meeting (or remeeting I should say) this girl from high school and damn she got good looking. And she plays Guitar Hero, also. I'm not totally into this girl, shes kind of the hip hop club goin chick and I'm more indie rock and metal (with some electronic music on the side), but I think we could have a good time together... I just dont think its a great great match. Should I pursue? I've already made up my mind about it just seeing what you guys suggest.

    Anectdotal evidence, but I got a terrible vibe off of my wife whe I first met her. If I hadn't been paired with her for an entire year in college for a bible study I don't think I would have given her the time of day.

    So yes, pursue. You never know what you could find out about this girl once you get to know her more.

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  • ege02ege02 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited January 2007
    Heir wrote:
    So yes, pursue. You never know what you could find out about this girl once you get to know her more.

    Yes, don't make excuses. Just go for it. Go on a few dates, see how things go.

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  • lunarwulflunarwulf Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    ege02 wrote:
    lunarwulf wrote:
    Start dating yourself, go out and meet some new chicks.

    Works every time.

    Well I went out to a bar last night and ended up meeting (or remeeting I should say) this girl from high school and damn she got good looking. And she plays Guitar Hero, also. I'm not totally into this girl, shes kind of the hip hop club goin chick and I'm more indie rock and metal (with some electronic music on the side), but I think we could have a good time together... I just dont think its a great great match. Should I pursue? I've already made up my mind about it just seeing what you guys suggest.

    Hell, yes pursue. You don't have to have a lot in common to click and have a good time. She might even expand your horizons and enrich your life. It's good to get outside your box from time to time.

    At least get laid first or see what her other friends are like. If you don't like her that much, she may have a friend that's more your speed. Networking, my friend, networking.

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  • GrundlterrorGrundlterror Registered User regular
    edited January 2007
    lunarwulf wrote:
    ege02 wrote:
    lunarwulf wrote:
    Start dating yourself, go out and meet some new chicks.

    Works every time.

    Well I went out to a bar last night and ended up meeting (or remeeting I should say) this girl from high school and damn she got good looking. And she plays Guitar Hero, also. I'm not totally into this girl, shes kind of the hip hop club goin chick and I'm more indie rock and metal (with some electronic music on the side), but I think we could have a good time together... I just dont think its a great great match. Should I pursue? I've already made up my mind about it just seeing what you guys suggest.

    Hell, yes pursue. You don't have to have a lot in common to click and have a good time. She might even expand your horizons and enrich your life. It's good to get outside your box from time to time.

    At least get laid first or see what her other friends are like. If you don't like her that much, she may have a friend that's more your speed. Networking, my friend, networking.

    Yeah thats basically what I had made my mind up to do. You're right, networking is key!

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