On the subject of speed, on the tracks with puddles, does hitting the water slow you down or is it just a force feedback thing?
Alternatively, does water slow off road vehicles down less? It doesn't seem like it does, but with the way dirt works in the game, it seems like it's supposed to.
I'm pretty sure water acts like that on both accounts.
Don't know about the water - I'd assume the puddles don't slow you down but the deeper water does. Maybe that's where the off-roaders have a slight advantage?
Off-Road handling definitely makes a difference. I can't say I've recorded any hard empirical evidence, but there is an apparent acceleration/top-speed/grip reduction for any non-OR vehicle that is driving on dirt, mud, or in water. The best places to appreciate this are on Brighton tracks with the huge steeplechase-style pools, and in LA Docks where the extreme-right shortcut section has a few wet patches. Driving over those in a non-OR vehicle results in an audible reduction in speed (you can hear the engine hum falling). In an OR vehicle, this reduction is negligible.
In a practical sense, on courses such as Stormdrain Surge, that one huge right turn that merges into the flooding, you can tell the differences in behavior between Grippy, Drifty, and Offroad vehicles. In an OR I can practically drive through the wet parts as if I were Grippy, Grippy as if I was Drifty, and Drifty as if I were steering a hovercraft. In the straights where the options are to drive through the puddles and get Nitros, or stay on the embankment and not get them, the fact that a non-OR vehicle will react shuggishly on the puddles compensates for the OR vehicles' average reduced accel/speed.
In a more general sense, on dirt/wet maps like Amboy and LA River, non-OR vehicles will grab early leads out of the gate due to their engine performance, but will eventually give up their lead over time as the OR vehicles will corner better and accelerate out of corners faster, biting the earth/water like it was Georgia asphalt.
Fucking K-mart. The game was nowhere to be found in their case and the silly goose that came over when I hit the call button was clueless. Split/Second was there, and Blur was there for the PS3... She spent 2 minutes staring at the case after I told her it wasn't there, and of course she (according to her) had no way to see if it was sold out, not on the shelf yet, or somewhere else.
The only redeeming factor in the experience was that my 2 year old started pointing at her as we were walking away and saying, "Grandma that way, daddy!" in a rather loud voice.
On the subject of speed, on the tracks with puddles, does hitting the water slow you down or is it just a force feedback thing?
It definitely slows you down regardless of vehicle. Deep water will give the edge to taller cars not offroad ones. For example the Beetle Rat despite being an off road car is the car that suffers the most in deep water, but the Defender won't be slowed down nearly as much. Most of the taller cars are offroad ones but in Class A the F-100 and Transit Van have a definite advantage over cars such as the Audi.
Puddles will hurt you pretty much the same regardless what car you have. On LA Docks they're there to slow people down who take the short cut, on NY you can avoid the puddles by riding the sidewalk.
Offroad cars are slightly advantageous on dirt (much of the Amboy and Oval tracks, the borders of Haruna) and very advantageous on rough (any time you see lots of foliage growing out of the dirt, best known example would be the interior of the final corner on the Badlands Traverse course but it's pretty much everywhere outside the trodden path on the Amboy tracks and crops up in other places as well). So long as a car sticks to the dirt section it has a chance against offroad cars but most drivers find themselves going into the rough, negating whatever hope they had.
Weight and height can be as important factors as driving style in a race. The Beetle Rat is the king of the Haruna track because it's a small, nippy car which helps with getting around the corners and it's OR driving style means it can cut corners and go into the dirt section without suffering much if any penalty. The Defender is no slouch and benefits from the OR advantage but can lose so much ground in the earlier stages it won't be position to make a run of it in the later stages when it can spread it's wings. On the flip side non-OR car drivers will need to stick to the track to make use of their advantage, which isn't easy given the narrow nature of it combined with everyone else trying to drive on the track.
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I just tried out split screen the other night. It is so god damned fun. It's like the good old days of Mario Kart on the SNES.
My only gripe is that they removed the rear view mirror when playing split screen. Obviously it would take up too much space on such a small screen, but it's really hard to reverse bolt or dodge shunts without it.
I just tried out split screen the other night. It is so god damned fun. It's like the good old days of Mario Kart on the SNES.
My only gripe is that they removed the rear view mirror when playing split screen. Obviously it would take up too much space on such a small screen, but it's really hard to reverse bolt or dodge shunts without it.
Wouldn't you just watch the other peoples' screens like in Mario Kart?
This game almost made me cry today when it disconnected me while I was winning a race by a huge margin. Beyond that I had some fun games, but I'm still stuck at a paltry total of 5 wins and still haven't managed a win in C class.
I feel bad because I turned the single player down to easy so I could beat it without wanting to break stuff. This game has two of my favorite achievement titles with 'I must break you' and 'it's a trap.' Definitely up there with Gears of Wars 'my love for you is like a truck.'
I just tried out split screen the other night. It is so god damned fun. It's like the good old days of Mario Kart on the SNES.
My only gripe is that they removed the rear view mirror when playing split screen. Obviously it would take up too much space on such a small screen, but it's really hard to reverse bolt or dodge shunts without it.
Wouldn't you just watch the other peoples' screens like in Mario Kart?
That's how you make up for it, but this game is so much more fast paced than Mario that it's not as easy as you might think. Get caught looking at someone's screen for longer than a split second and you're likely to ram into a wall or something.
Been trying to catch up on the single-player campaign and had this to say...
Is it just me, or is the One-on-Two with Ayumi & Harumi embarrassingly easy? Maybe it's because I ranked up a tad and had a slightly faster car, but once I shielded/reverse Bolted my way to a modest lead, the downward slope exacerbated my speed advantage and I just smoked both of em with 10 seconds to spare.
And here I was, worried they'd bash my Skyline to death...
Perhaps this is just more of a general guideline: On uphill circuits, Acceleration > Speed, and on downhill circuits, Speed > Acceleration? Thoughts?
Man.... 10 shunts up your ass in 10 seconds is really annoying...
I do hate the dogpile effect. It seems like it comes in bursts, and is the fast route to the back of the pack.
Never seems to happen to the guy in front either.. it's always some poor bastard barely hanging on to 10th place and he gets a bunch of desperate dudes on his tail, every last one of them taking their aggression out on him.
Man.... 10 shunts up your ass in 10 seconds is really annoying...
I do hate the dogpile effect. It seems like it comes in bursts, and is the fast route to the back of the pack.
Never seems to happen to the guy in front either.. it's always some poor bastard barely hanging on to 10th place and he gets a bunch of desperate dudes on his tail, every last one of them taking their aggression out on him.
It happens to me a lot right after I take first place. The other day I took first and went from green to wrecked in no time as I got bolted into a lightning skidded into another lightning took a shunt and a barge and was wrecked to tenth place or so. It was awful.
I had some sweet games today and double my wins to 10.
I really enjoy the Camaro (Drag) in A class on the oval courses. I got wins with it on Barcelona Oval, and LA waterway. The oval was easy since I started in first and grabbed nothing but nitros.
It's on sale at Best Buy for $40.
If you're a Reward Zone member, there's a $10 off coupon under "Gamers Club" on the Reward Zone Website, knocking it to $30.
Then the $20 off coupon above. Total = $10.
Plus tax. $12.
Best deal EVER.
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I think I should have gone with my instinct and switched my pre-order to Split/Second. It seems that every MP race I play I'm always on the wrong side of Bullshit luck. I only stock up on shields and barges, and use the "evade shunts easier (bullshit)" perk but its still not enough. Anytime I make my way up the pack I just get overrun with shunts...
No biggie, Singleplayer is actually pretty decent.... except that it seems to rubberband worse than Mario Kart.
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It's on sale at Best Buy for $40.
If you're a Reward Zone member, there's a $10 off coupon under "Gamers Club" on the Reward Zone Website, knocking it to $30.
Then the $20 off coupon above. Total = $10.
Plus tax. $12.
Best deal EVER.
Holy damn. I was happy with my purchase at full price just for 4 player split screen...but I'd be even more stoked if I'd gotten it for $12. The campaign is really weak to me, so this has been shelved unless I have people over. Everyone I've shown loves it.
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I think I should have gone with my instinct and switched my pre-order to Split/Second. It seems that every MP race I play I'm always on the wrong side of Bullshit luck. I only stock up on shields and barges, and use the "evade shunts easier (bullshit)" perk but its still not enough. Anytime I make my way up the pack I just get overrun with shunts...
No biggie, Singleplayer is actually pretty decent.... except that it seems to rubberband worse than Mario Kart.
I don't notice any rubber banding in single player at all. Maybe you're just terrible?
Yeah, if you think there is rubber banding in Blur don't even think about Split/Second. I love it but the other drivers shoot past you every few seconds.
Also as much as the Blur multiplayer can be a clusterfuck, it's still brilliant fun. Once you gain a few ranks and get some experience you start placing better and better, but don't think that its all about the top 3. Fight for whatever place you are in, because even if you think you're doing badly in 15th place there are still 5 guys behind you who want that place and will beat the shit out of you to get it.
I think I should have gone with my instinct and switched my pre-order to Split/Second. It seems that every MP race I play I'm always on the wrong side of Bullshit luck. I only stock up on shields and barges, and use the "evade shunts easier (bullshit)" perk but its still not enough. Anytime I make my way up the pack I just get overrun with shunts...
No biggie, Singleplayer is actually pretty decent.... except that it seems to rubberband worse than Mario Kart.
If you want to win you need to pick up Nitro boosts. Nitro's and Barges are the best way to go and fuck the evade shunt perk it's stupid. Put something better there. I prefer the one that makes my barges bigger.
Does anybody know what the secret avatar unlockable is and how to get it?
The $12 deal actually made this my first Activision purchase since...I dont even remember when. Prototype maybe? But that was used. I havent bought a NEW Activison game in quite some time.
And I feel so dirty. But I LOVE it.
The "Previously On Blur" thing is the GREATEST idea ever. It hooks me every time.
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I'm up to Rank 45 now, still haven't been able to put in the solid playtime to reach Legendary status yet (partially because I'm doing some research for the Blur Wikia site and can't afford to fly through the game for now).
If you see some apparent rubber-banding, it's only because there's either a "kerfuffle" in the middle of the pack that's causing collateral nonsense at lower speeds, and you're either able to zoom right past it, or you get caught in it and hit too many things at once, slowing you down. It happens, especially on circuits with narrow, curvy streets like Hackney and NY Dumbo.
If there's a runaway leader, it's the duty of every player in the top 5-6 (or everyone!) to grab Shocks and Shunts and keep the leader busy either dodging lightning, or grabbing whatever he can find to counter the Shunts. At some point he'll either slow down so the pack (in the French, le peloton) will catch up, or he'll run out of counters, get hit by a Shunt, and you get the same effect.
I think packs tend to cannibalize each other, so as long as you save your powerups for getting through the pack rather than just attacking people for the hell of it, you'll place better. Fight smarter, not harder.
I'm up to Rank 45 now, still haven't been able to put in the solid playtime to reach Legendary status yet (partially because I'm doing some research for the Blur Wikia site and can't afford to fly through the game for now).
If you see some apparent rubber-banding, it's only because there's either a "kerfuffle" in the middle of the pack that's causing collateral nonsense at lower speeds, and you're either able to zoom right past it, or you get caught in it and hit too many things at once, slowing you down. It happens, especially on circuits with narrow, curvy streets like Hackney and NY Dumbo.
If there's a runaway leader, it's the duty of every player in the top 5-6 (or everyone!) to grab Shocks and Shunts and keep the leader busy either dodging lightning, or grabbing whatever he can find to counter the Shunts. At some point he'll either slow down so the pack (in the French, le peloton) will catch up, or he'll run out of counters, get hit by a Shunt, and you get the same effect.
I think packs tend to cannibalize each other, so as long as you save your powerups for getting through the pack rather than just attacking people for the hell of it, you'll place better. Fight smarter, not harder.
I wish people would do this, but it never happens. Often the first place racer goes unmolested while the middle of the pack destroys each other, duking it out for 5th-15th place.
Having a decent accelerating car and having good enough luck to start at the front of the pack pretty much guarantees first place if you can survive the first few shunt volleys. After that it's pretty much just pick up shields to deal with shocks and the odd shunt that gets through and nitros to extend your lead.
I loved the Exige. Then I got the Viper and had to say goodbye to the little guy. Also beating Nemesis' and X5s on Amboy with a Rat Beetle is the best thing.
The $12 deal actually made this my first Activision purchase since...I dont even remember when. Prototype maybe? But that was used. I havent bought a NEW Activison game in quite some time.
And I feel so dirty. But I LOVE it.
The "Previously On Blur" thing is the GREATEST idea ever. It hooks me every time.
Ah, but I touched Single Player once and it keeps fucking reminding me about stuff I don't care about.
I'm going to be getting on blur for a bit, if anyone wants to join me send a message, not a friend request because it's full, and I'll send you a game/party invite
Edit: Heh, a bit ended up being 4 hours and not a single message
Was playing in a single 20 man lobby on Saturday night for a couple of hours, placing in the top five and getting the odd winning streak of 2 or 3. One fine gentleman didn't seem to like this, so kept calling me lots of lovely words and trying to get the rest of the racers to gang up on me. Well I was loving this and as I don't usually use my mic except with friends or in team based games I just kept quiet but made it a mission to wreck him at least once before starting my race proper. He quit a couple of races afterwards.
Yep, Blur made me into one of those guys.
On the other hand though I've had some good 1/2 position swapping races with dudes after which we would message each other complimenting each others races, or even just a gg.
One of the final demands is to go 120mph for an entire lap... wtf..
Golden Gate Rush? That's the one track I could manage it on. Note that the game doesn't treat the start/finish line as the "beginning of a lap" in this case, but instead remembers the earliest point from which you maintained 120mph. As long as you return to that point having not dipped below 120mph, you'll get the achievement.
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I'm pretty sure water acts like that on both accounts.
In a practical sense, on courses such as Stormdrain Surge, that one huge right turn that merges into the flooding, you can tell the differences in behavior between Grippy, Drifty, and Offroad vehicles. In an OR I can practically drive through the wet parts as if I were Grippy, Grippy as if I was Drifty, and Drifty as if I were steering a hovercraft. In the straights where the options are to drive through the puddles and get Nitros, or stay on the embankment and not get them, the fact that a non-OR vehicle will react shuggishly on the puddles compensates for the OR vehicles' average reduced accel/speed.
In a more general sense, on dirt/wet maps like Amboy and LA River, non-OR vehicles will grab early leads out of the gate due to their engine performance, but will eventually give up their lead over time as the OR vehicles will corner better and accelerate out of corners faster, biting the earth/water like it was Georgia asphalt.
The only redeeming factor in the experience was that my 2 year old started pointing at her as we were walking away and saying, "Grandma that way, daddy!" in a rather loud voice.
It definitely slows you down regardless of vehicle. Deep water will give the edge to taller cars not offroad ones. For example the Beetle Rat despite being an off road car is the car that suffers the most in deep water, but the Defender won't be slowed down nearly as much. Most of the taller cars are offroad ones but in Class A the F-100 and Transit Van have a definite advantage over cars such as the Audi.
Puddles will hurt you pretty much the same regardless what car you have. On LA Docks they're there to slow people down who take the short cut, on NY you can avoid the puddles by riding the sidewalk.
Offroad cars are slightly advantageous on dirt (much of the Amboy and Oval tracks, the borders of Haruna) and very advantageous on rough (any time you see lots of foliage growing out of the dirt, best known example would be the interior of the final corner on the Badlands Traverse course but it's pretty much everywhere outside the trodden path on the Amboy tracks and crops up in other places as well). So long as a car sticks to the dirt section it has a chance against offroad cars but most drivers find themselves going into the rough, negating whatever hope they had.
Weight and height can be as important factors as driving style in a race. The Beetle Rat is the king of the Haruna track because it's a small, nippy car which helps with getting around the corners and it's OR driving style means it can cut corners and go into the dirt section without suffering much if any penalty. The Defender is no slouch and benefits from the OR advantage but can lose so much ground in the earlier stages it won't be position to make a run of it in the later stages when it can spread it's wings. On the flip side non-OR car drivers will need to stick to the track to make use of their advantage, which isn't easy given the narrow nature of it combined with everyone else trying to drive on the track.
My only gripe is that they removed the rear view mirror when playing split screen. Obviously it would take up too much space on such a small screen, but it's really hard to reverse bolt or dodge shunts without it.
Wouldn't you just watch the other peoples' screens like in Mario Kart?
This game almost made me cry today when it disconnected me while I was winning a race by a huge margin. Beyond that I had some fun games, but I'm still stuck at a paltry total of 5 wins and still haven't managed a win in C class.
I feel bad because I turned the single player down to easy so I could beat it without wanting to break stuff. This game has two of my favorite achievement titles with 'I must break you' and 'it's a trap.' Definitely up there with Gears of Wars 'my love for you is like a truck.'
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That's how you make up for it, but this game is so much more fast paced than Mario that it's not as easy as you might think. Get caught looking at someone's screen for longer than a split second and you're likely to ram into a wall or something.
I'd love to have some actual conversations while shunting people.
This, but with Ubu Roi AA.
Is it just me, or is the One-on-Two with Ayumi & Harumi embarrassingly easy? Maybe it's because I ranked up a tad and had a slightly faster car, but once I shielded/reverse Bolted my way to a modest lead, the downward slope exacerbated my speed advantage and I just smoked both of em with 10 seconds to spare.
And here I was, worried they'd bash my Skyline to death...
Perhaps this is just more of a general guideline: On uphill circuits, Acceleration > Speed, and on downhill circuits, Speed > Acceleration? Thoughts?
I do hate the dogpile effect. It seems like it comes in bursts, and is the fast route to the back of the pack.
Never seems to happen to the guy in front either.. it's always some poor bastard barely hanging on to 10th place and he gets a bunch of desperate dudes on his tail, every last one of them taking their aggression out on him.
It happens to me a lot right after I take first place. The other day I took first and went from green to wrecked in no time as I got bolted into a lightning skidded into another lightning took a shunt and a barge and was wrecked to tenth place or so. It was awful.
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I had some sweet games today and double my wins to 10.
I really enjoy the Camaro (Drag) in A class on the oval courses. I got wins with it on Barcelona Oval, and LA waterway. The oval was easy since I started in first and grabbed nothing but nitros.
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It's on sale at Best Buy for $40.
If you're a Reward Zone member, there's a $10 off coupon under "Gamers Club" on the Reward Zone Website, knocking it to $30.
Then the $20 off coupon above. Total = $10.
Plus tax. $12.
Best deal EVER.
No biggie, Singleplayer is actually pretty decent.... except that it seems to rubberband worse than Mario Kart.
Holy damn. I was happy with my purchase at full price just for 4 player split screen...but I'd be even more stoked if I'd gotten it for $12. The campaign is really weak to me, so this has been shelved unless I have people over. Everyone I've shown loves it.
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I don't notice any rubber banding in single player at all. Maybe you're just terrible?
Also as much as the Blur multiplayer can be a clusterfuck, it's still brilliant fun. Once you gain a few ranks and get some experience you start placing better and better, but don't think that its all about the top 3. Fight for whatever place you are in, because even if you think you're doing badly in 15th place there are still 5 guys behind you who want that place and will beat the shit out of you to get it.
If you want to win you need to pick up Nitro boosts. Nitro's and Barges are the best way to go and fuck the evade shunt perk it's stupid. Put something better there. I prefer the one that makes my barges bigger.
Does anybody know what the secret avatar unlockable is and how to get it?
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I've decided to count placing in the top ten as a win.
And I feel so dirty. But I LOVE it.
The "Previously On Blur" thing is the GREATEST idea ever. It hooks me every time.
If you see some apparent rubber-banding, it's only because there's either a "kerfuffle" in the middle of the pack that's causing collateral nonsense at lower speeds, and you're either able to zoom right past it, or you get caught in it and hit too many things at once, slowing you down. It happens, especially on circuits with narrow, curvy streets like Hackney and NY Dumbo.
If there's a runaway leader, it's the duty of every player in the top 5-6 (or everyone!) to grab Shocks and Shunts and keep the leader busy either dodging lightning, or grabbing whatever he can find to counter the Shunts. At some point he'll either slow down so the pack (in the French, le peloton) will catch up, or he'll run out of counters, get hit by a Shunt, and you get the same effect.
I think packs tend to cannibalize each other, so as long as you save your powerups for getting through the pack rather than just attacking people for the hell of it, you'll place better. Fight smarter, not harder.
I wish people would do this, but it never happens. Often the first place racer goes unmolested while the middle of the pack destroys each other, duking it out for 5th-15th place.
I loved the Exige. Then I got the Viper and had to say goodbye to the little guy. Also beating Nemesis' and X5s on Amboy with a Rat Beetle is the best thing.
Pretty great deal.
Best Buy sale $39.99 ($20 off)
- $20 Manufacturer Coupon
= $23 with tax
I could have gotten more off if I had more Reward Zone points.
EDIT: Oh and the game is rad. I played a lot of the beta/demo and enjoyed it. Great price, a STEAL even!
In the PC version, there is no way to remap keys/controller buttons.
I have 2 USB gamepads, and I want to play with my friends, but the controllers pretty much don't respond. Does this only support X360 controllers?
Ah, but I touched Single Player once and it keeps fucking reminding me about stuff I don't care about.
Edit: Heh, a bit ended up being 4 hours and not a single message
Add me to the OP please Angel177
It's like WipEout but with cars!
I did get the Haruna Matata achievement though, I felt pretty cool on that one.
Was playing in a single 20 man lobby on Saturday night for a couple of hours, placing in the top five and getting the odd winning streak of 2 or 3. One fine gentleman didn't seem to like this, so kept calling me lots of lovely words and trying to get the rest of the racers to gang up on me. Well I was loving this and as I don't usually use my mic except with friends or in team based games I just kept quiet but made it a mission to wreck him at least once before starting my race proper. He quit a couple of races afterwards.
Yep, Blur made me into one of those guys.
On the other hand though I've had some good 1/2 position swapping races with dudes after which we would message each other complimenting each others races, or even just a gg.
Golden Gate Rush? That's the one track I could manage it on. Note that the game doesn't treat the start/finish line as the "beginning of a lap" in this case, but instead remembers the earliest point from which you maintained 120mph. As long as you return to that point having not dipped below 120mph, you'll get the achievement.
I played like 10 matches with a friend, and it was super fun. God, I forgot I liked arcade racers, it's been so long.