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Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice (now $19.99 @ GS, get to avoid delinquency)

cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm RegentBears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
edited April 2010 in Games and Technology
Of course, not attending makes you a honor student, so maybe that's a good thing in this case.

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I'm probably one of the few people who wanted a PS3 for what's essentially a PS2 game with high-res sprites, and since I finally got the system, I got the game I wanted to play since it came out.

Hopefully you're at least a little familiar with Disgaea by now if you're reading this. Grid-based strategic warfare, off the charts insanity in both terms of gameplay and characters.

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Disgaea 3 takes place in the Netherworld Academy, which educates demons on being, well, demonic.

Honor students skip class, do acts of evil, and are generally bad through and through.

Delinquents are the ones who always attend, do acts of good, and get on the honor students' last nerves.


The senior class doesn't exist, far as anyone knows.


So aside from the setting and story, which I enjoy a lot so far, I'm kind of disappointed in the gameplay.


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Aside from the Geoblocks, which work like D1 & 2's Geopanels, except you can throw them and stack them and cause neat explosions, they basically didn't add anything new.

If anything, they took stuff away.


Evilities, skills you have to purchase using Mana, which is usually reserved for passing prposals in the Dark Assembly(now called Homeroom), are a pain in the neck. I miss just getting skills from gaining levels.


Anyway, beyond that, Item World is still fun, and the story is still good.


So is there anything else a Disgaea vet should know about this crazy game? I'm only at Chapter 3, but again, I like where the plot is going, if nothing else.


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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I actually think this is the strongest game in the series, though the amount of grinding needed to take down bonus bosses is still ridiculous.

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I am on/off again playing it right now. I just beat the Home Ec. Teacher. So far the pacing seems nice in the main game. But yes, I do get this whole new level of grinding madness in post game. The Student Club mechanic is a nice way to 'squad' up teams.

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I am finally gathering my set of penultimate weapons.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I thought you made this thread to mention the fact that

    Disgaea 3 has dropped to $19.99new/$17.99used at GameStop.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    That would have been great to know before I bought it at $39.99 two weeks ago.

    Ah well.

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  • B:LB:L I've done worse. Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    That would have been great to know before I bought it at $39.99 two weeks ago.

    Ah well.

    Oh, then I guess you DON'T want to know that it'll drop to $14.99 at GameStop on and after March 26th for their Game Days Sale.

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  • VeganVegan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    CowShark wrote: »
    I am finally gathering my set of penultimate weapons.

    Why settle for second best? :P (Hate misuse of "penultimate")

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  • DarlanDarlan Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I told myself I'd get Disgaea 3 when it's available for 20 bucks, but now FFXIII comes out on Tuesday...

    15 bucks!

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  • LitanyLitany Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Xagarath wrote: »
    I actually think this is the strongest game in the series, though the amount of grinding needed to take down bonus bosses is still ridiculous.
    I loved both the first two and simply couldn't stomach the third game past...let's call it the third or fourth chapter. I didn't like the tweaks to the mentor system (though the rest of the gameplay is more or less as expected), and I actually groaned more than chuckled/smirked/had-a-look-of-mirth-on-my-face at the story and dialogue. I guess it simply felt more of a fanwork then a legitimate addition to the series. Hell, it actually killed my enthusiasm for the PSP run of the first game I was playing.

    Is the rest of the game more of the same? Like many, it was included in my original reasons for picking the system up and it's sat on my shelf virtually untouched by myself, and a friend who's even more in the series than I am for the same reasons.

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  • GoluxasGoluxas Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Vegan wrote: »
    CowShark wrote: »
    I am finally gathering my set of penultimate weapons.

    Why settle for second best? :P (Hate misuse of "penultimate")
    He might actually mean penultimate, since if it's like the earlier games, you can only get the ultimate weapons by diving into the item world of the penultimate ones.
    cj iwakura wrote:
    That would have been great to know before I bought it at $39.99 two weeks ago.

    I just bought it a month ago. D:

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  • XagarathXagarath Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Litany wrote: »
    Xagarath wrote: »
    I actually think this is the strongest game in the series, though the amount of grinding needed to take down bonus bosses is still ridiculous.
    I loved both the first two and simply couldn't stomach the third game past...let's call it the third or fourth chapter. I didn't like the tweaks to the mentor system (though the rest of the gameplay is more or less as expected), and I actually groaned more than chuckled/smirked/had-a-look-of-mirth-on-my-face at the story and dialogue. I guess it simply felt more of a fanwork then a legitimate addition to the series. Hell, it actually killed my enthusiasm for the PSP run of the first game I was playing.

    Is the rest of the game more of the same? Like many, it was included in my original reasons for picking the system up and it's sat on my shelf virtually untouched by myself, and a friend who's even more in the series than I am for the same reasons.

    I actually found the plot somewhat funnier than the second, but tastes vary. Didn't make many unexpected changes in style after the first few chapters, though.

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I bought my PS3 solely for this game at the time. I was also getting ready really really early for FFXIII and any other RPGs coming out.

    I really enjoyed the game. I should finish up the DLC and Bonus Bosses sometime, but I've got a shit ton of grinding to do. :(

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  • Mostlyjoe13Mostlyjoe13 Evil, Evil, Jump for joy! Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    One of the nice things is there are clubs that give good EXP bonuses. So unless you spend no time in the homerooms building up bonuses and getting the right teacher...well. Nothing to do then.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    To me, the problem with Disgea is that not only is it a great game. It have some really awesome characters.

    And while, the game is great, it can get tedious at times. But the characters always remains great. So I'm always motivated to play the game just to see what'll happen next, or to see what kind of ending I'll get, etc.

    Disgea 2 improved the gameplay 10 folds, but the characters just wasn't as charismatic. So I just didn't play Disgea 2 for too long.

    I haven't bother with Disgea 3, but at $15.00, I can't ignore it anymore.

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Goluxas wrote: »
    Vegan wrote: »
    CowShark wrote: »
    I am finally gathering my set of penultimate weapons.

    Why settle for second best? :P (Hate misuse of "penultimate")
    He might actually mean penultimate, since if it's like the earlier games, you can only get the ultimate weapons by diving into the item world of the penultimate ones.

    Yeah, I meant what I said. I think all the Disgaea games (def 2 and 3) have those important rank 39 items you gotta nab before you can get the final rank 40 items. I'm mostly trying to get all those penultimates before chasing after the last items.

    I think I might have dug down for the last sword (don't remember now, haven't played this in a bit) though. Some heavy stabs are good for end game can-opening.

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I quite enjoyed disgaea 3, having beat it through the first playthrough. Getting up enough points and EXP for the first couple of unlocks after the first playthrough though is gonna be tough.

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Okay, got my Ultimus (39 fist), Arcadia (39 Emblem), Barefoot X (best Shoe), and Meggido Cannon (39 Gun).

    It turns out I'd already found, levelled, and duped an ultimate sword. So I think I might just crank through the Emblem and Fist, and then everything's gravy; I'll just have to decide which characters I want to power up (thinkin' Laharl and the girl who never gets her own video game, because her idle animation looks like she's playing Air Guitar).

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Bumping this so you guys know that apparently GS changed the sale to $19.99 for the Gamer Days sale. It's weird that they really wanted that extra $5. Anyway the sale is going on now online for you folks that don't have a gamestop near you with a new copy of the game. I expect mine shall arrive next week and then be promptly set aside as I finish my multitude of other games I have to play.

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  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm rather confused about certain aspects of the game.

    First, Should i be considering reincarnation of characters on the first playthrough? Am i suppose to let the levels get sky high so that reincarnation contributes more or can i do it anytime? I've got a fighter thats a friggin beast but i was thinking of making him a heavy knight or warrior but wonder if it would be a waste at his level. I'm on about halfway through the fourth chapter, characters around 23-27th level

    Next, how do i make spells have larger Area effects, do i need to upgrade them through the Evilality guy or does the target range get bigger just through usage levels?

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Do not reincarnate. It's not worth it yet. Not worth it til you get to the grind heavy spots.
    Area is increased by using evility I believe.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    You need to upgrade them through Evilities now, which sucks.


    Also: reincarnation is awesome for NPCs, since they can change classes. It's not nearly as awesome for story characters.

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  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    When would you suggest i reincarnate NPC's? I wasnt planning on doing it to main characters in the first runthrough but i have a gunslinger thats kicking ass and a fighter doing well that might benefit from this.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Usually as soon as the next tier of their class is available, so you can reincarnate them as the better version. Or another class if you want them to have, say, fighting and gunning skills for whatever reason.

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  • solsovlysolsovly Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I loved Disgaea 1 for the characters and gameplay. I got bored of Disgaea 2 for some reason I can't place, probably the characters.

    It's cheap but should I bother buying Disgaea 3 if I got bored of 2?

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  • Ah_PookAh_Pook Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    eh its almost exactly like 1 and 2, if youre bored with the formula then its probably not going to do much for you. i bought it on launch, put maybe 40 hours into it and ended up selling it when you could still get some money for it. i dunno, i think my time with NIS games has come to an end generally speaking. i put like 150 hours into disgaea 2, and plenty more into all their other ps2 games. i think im all ground out personally.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So taking the cue from SA, as I saw it suggested there and this is the only reasonable way to do it, would anyone be up for game sharing the DLC? It's $50 for all of it which is just ludicrous, but I have a friend who'd be willing to take part in it so if we could get 3 more people in we could get things set up to just all pay $10 each. It's a lot of DLC when you look at it, but $50 is just absolutely insane and the content isn't worth THAT much.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Bears The Name FreedomRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Is any of it worth it?

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm not sure what it is exactly, but I hear it's a ton of characters and like 4 extra chapters at the least. You have to beat the game first, but I hear if you split the cost then it's worth it. Not so much if you buy it all yourself.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hey, more people getting sucked into Absence of reasonably priced DLC....

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Has any other DLC ever nickled and dimed as much as D3's? I thought Onechanbara on 360 was bad at $20 for characters you can't use except in free-play, but D3 really takes the cake. $50 isn't even as much as I've paid for all the Borderlands DLC. Hell, both expansions to GTA4 I don't think even cost that much combined and they're legitimate expansions.

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Yeah unless you really really like some of the characters you can probably avoid those, they aren't required, but some of the story ones may be decent, i haven't actually tried them.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Domestically, not much I can think of, AC 6 is closeish, or maybe FF IV:TAY, but that's more episodic gaming.

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Do the EA cheat codes count as useless shit?

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    TheGerbil wrote: »
    Yeah unless you really really like some of the characters you can probably avoid those, they aren't required, but some of the story ones may be decent, i haven't actually tried them.

    I can't check online, but don't the story chapters cost more than $10 anyway? Because it's the Raspberyl expansion which was an actual expansion over in Japan right? So really the best way to do it would be to just get the game share thing going and get everything. I mean yeah a lot of it is probably useless fanservice, but for $10~ would it be that much of a loss?

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    How do you share DLC?

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  • TheGerbilTheGerbil Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh yeah, the rasberyl thing was a mini expansion of sorts, you are correct.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    blaze_zero wrote: »
    How do you share DLC?

    I'm not really sure as I've never done it, but it is definitely possible. I think you do it the same way you do game sharing for normal PSN games. I'd read up on how to do it or let someone else be in charge that already knows how if we could get it going. There's a lot of trust involved though, so I'd like to follow Secret Santa-ish rules and say that nobody who registered only this month or something could be a part of it.

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  • Glenn565Glenn565 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I think I remember reading in the sales thread that Sony lowered the number of people you can share content with down to 3.

    And to even share it, all three people just have to have the same PSN account on their console, I think.

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  • Shady3011Shady3011 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    It's still five and we could always make a dummy account if people are concerned.

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  • GilderGilder Aw snap Macaroni PartyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The SA game share thread is still thriving, so I think we're okay. Maybe they're going to be limiting it in the future?

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