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[B]Minimum Frostbite PC Specs[/B]
    * Processor: Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz
    * Main memory: 2GB
    * Graphics card: GeForce 7800 GT / ATI X1900
    * Graphics memory: 256MB
    * OS: Windows XP
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    * Main memory: 2GB
    * Graphics card: GeForce GTX 260
    * Graphics memory: 512MB
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Game modes!
Single-player
There is single player! In a battlefield game! Weird, I know!

Squad Rush: 4v4
Each team has an M-COMM station. Kind of like CTF but the flags don't move.

Squad Death-Match: 4v4v4v4
Played on a smaller map, this is just a straight up team-dm with a single vehicle dropped in the centre to fight over. Get your mates, grab your guns and start shooting.

Conquest: 16v16 PC, 12v12 PS3/360
A Battlefield mainstay, this mode makes its return here. No major changes announced, and there've been hints at classic maps making reappearances as DLC.

Rush: 16v16 PC, 12v12 PS3/360
Players choose to join either the Attacking team or the Defending team, and spawn in their respective bases. Attackers try to set up demolition charges on a set of 2 M-COMM crates in the Defending team's base. For each Attacker killed, the team loses one life, or "ticket." If the Attacking team's tickets run out, game over. If they manage to detonate the M-COMM's, a new Defending team base opens up, and the process repeats itself until three bases have been destroyed and the Attackers win.

Kits! (Loadouts!)
Assault
The basic offensive loadout. Main features are an ammo box that replenishes ammo when dropped, and a 40mm launcher that can be used for grenades, smoke grenades, or a slow-reloading shotgun attachment. Assault Rifles are the Assault's main primary weapon. Against vehicles, the Assault will generally not fare so well.

Medic
Similar to the Assault's ammo box, the medic gets a first aid kit. Once dropped, it will replenish health to everyone within a fairly tight radius. The medic also gets defib paddles, which can resurrect recently deceased teammates. These teammates, still caught in the limbo of the spawn timer, will be marked on your minimap (and on screen if HUD is enabled) by a little green or blue heart-rate monitor symbol. The medic's primary is the Light Machine Gun, making him great for infantry support. Against vehicles, though, he is worse off than the Assault.

Engineer
The engineer's specials are a welding tool that repairs friendly vehicles (and deals damage to enemies!), and the choice between RPG's or anti-tank mines. RPG's have the added benefit of being able to lock onto anything that has already been marked by the cross-kit unlock tracer dart pistol, while anti-tank mines will not harm friendly vehicles and stay deployed even after you die or switch kits. Engineer's primaries are Sub Machine Guns, generally pretty weak but also silenced and fairly accurate.

Recon
The recon's specials are a choice between remote-detonated C4 and the ability to call down a mortar strike on a target with which you have line-of-sight. They also gets the incredibly useful motion sensor thing, which spots all enemies within a decent radius for a limited time. The recon's primaries are sniper rifles. Also it can't be overstated how much proper hiding will help you in this: people will walk within 2 feet of you if you're in the right bush, the ghillie suit is your friend.

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  • mere_immortalmere_immortal So tasty!Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Connection issues :(

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    connection issues BLOW

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    This is the last time I ever let Bestbuy.com ship a package to me. Still waiting for my Limited Edition copy to come in :(

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  • TwistedJesterTwistedJester Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't get people who think the Engineer doesn't have enough utility. It's by far the most versatile class in the game. They're the absolute best at taking out armor, they're the only class that can repair vehicles, they can bring down houses on MCOMs from a much further distance than any other class except a mortar recon and they have the best default weapons for close quarter battles. The only thing they lack is anti-infantry capabilities at a distance, since the damage on SMGs drops off more than other guns at a distance.

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  • shorttiminshorttimin regular Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I would just like to add, if you're new, if you are an assault or a medic and you're not actually shooting or spotting at that particular moment, you should be dropping ammo or med boxes near your teammates.

    Seriously, give this poor engineer some more ammo! I promise I'll fix your tank!

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I was playing and then suddenly I got disconnected and couldn't log back in.

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  • Vic_HazardVic_Hazard Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    jefe414 wrote: »
    SoulGate wrote: »
    SJ wrote: »
    strategery wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong though, the GL should stay in game. I love it. I just feel like you should have to be standing still to shoot it. You hit 3 and if you move it should put it away. That way it retains its function as Guy-in-a-window-F'er and Wall Destroyer, but loses the gamey tactics associated with it.

    Easier, simpler, and much more realistic solution...

    The grenades don't arm for a pre-determined time period. Real grenade launchers these days are electronically armed so that they don't blow up in the operators face, or if they shoot at something too close it doesn't kill them too.

    I'm not sure what's up with the GL launchers. I shot a dude in the crotch from about 6 feet away yesterday with it, and it killed him, but the grenade did not explode.

    Be honest, if you got shot in the balls with a 140mm 1 lbs. slug of metal from 6 feet away, would you really be able to even breath, stand, live?

    You would be in seriously bad shape. Just look what happens to people hit with beanbags fired from shotguns (and that's nothing compared the the 40mm grenade).

    This is the game where you ignore a .50 cal round to the crotch guys. If anything i wouldn't expect a 40mm dud to do much damage at all. If we're talking realism then a bullet is way more dangerous than a grenade dud.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't get people who think the Engineer doesn't have enough utility. It's by far the most versatile class in the game. They're the absolute best at taking out armor, they're the only class that can repair vehicles, they can bring down houses on MCOMs from a much further distance than any other class except a mortar recon and they have the best default weapons for close quarter battles. The only thing they lack is anti-infantry capabilities at a distance, since the damage on SMGs drops off more than other guns at a distance.

    Also, the best thing you can ever do in this game is slip past the front lines and sneak around killing people with knife and silenced SMG and give vehicles an RPG shot or two from behind before slinking away to resupply at enemy crates.

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I love the engineer. People complaining about the engy aren't doing it right. But most versatile? I dunno about that. I think the medic is.

    Healing, reviving, and awesome anti-infantry capabilities? It's hard to say the engy is more versatile just because it can take out tanks, when the medic can revive the engys to allow them to keep killing tanks. It's the ultimate support class and it has plenty of offensive power to boot.

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  • The_SpaniardThe_Spaniard It's never lupines Irvine, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Me wanties play.. :(

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  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    BLEEEEEEEEEEEEUGH! BLEEEEEEEEEEEEUGH! BLEEEEEEEEEEEEUGH!

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  • BolthornBolthorn Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    So looking forward to some more playing tonight.

    I have to ask, so since I've been playing recon mostly, should I still join a squad as long as I'm pretty itchy with the spotting button? I pretty much spam the thing.

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  • SherlokSherlok Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Peewi wrote: »
    I was playing and then suddenly I got disconnected and couldn't log back in.

    Yea I can't either.

    Saw this on twitter:
    badcompanytwo
    #BFBC2 If your getting connection errors on servers try deleting the Favorites and Recent servers values in the Game Settings.ini in my doc
    about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck

    Edit: This didn't work for me.

    And I'm sure most people knew this, but here's their 'tip' for faster server browsing:

    http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/932557-tip-faster-server-browsing.html#post13080970

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    My first Battlefield game since the original.

    I've forgotten how much dying sucks. But I know how to spot people.

    So much running.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Bolthorn wrote: »
    So looking forward to some more playing tonight.

    I have to ask, so since I've been playing recon mostly, should I still join a squad as long as I'm pretty itchy with the spotting button? I pretty much spam the thing.

    You should always be in a squad. If for no other reason than if someone in your squad gets a kill on someone you spotted, you get more points.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    What is fun: Ruining the enemy with the heli

    What is not fun: Getting a DC while piloting the heli

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    reVerse wrote: »
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

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  • jefe414jefe414 "My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter" Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Vic_Hazard wrote: »
    jefe414 wrote: »
    SoulGate wrote: »
    SJ wrote: »
    strategery wrote: »
    Don't get me wrong though, the GL should stay in game. I love it. I just feel like you should have to be standing still to shoot it. You hit 3 and if you move it should put it away. That way it retains its function as Guy-in-a-window-F'er and Wall Destroyer, but loses the gamey tactics associated with it.

    Easier, simpler, and much more realistic solution...

    The grenades don't arm for a pre-determined time period. Real grenade launchers these days are electronically armed so that they don't blow up in the operators face, or if they shoot at something too close it doesn't kill them too.

    I'm not sure what's up with the GL launchers. I shot a dude in the crotch from about 6 feet away yesterday with it, and it killed him, but the grenade did not explode.

    Be honest, if you got shot in the balls with a 140mm 1 lbs. slug of metal from 6 feet away, would you really be able to even breath, stand, live?

    You would be in seriously bad shape. Just look what happens to people hit with beanbags fired from shotguns (and that's nothing compared the the 40mm grenade).

    This is the game where you ignore a .50 cal round to the crotch guys. If anything i wouldn't expect a 40mm dud to do much damage at all. If we're talking realism then a bullet is way more dangerous than a grenade dud.

    I think the origin of this conversation was about how an assault guy could use the 40mm grenade like a shotgun blast at point blank range which then brought up 2 ideas:
    1 - have it work like in Modern Warfare 2 (I don't call it MW2 because that means MechWarrior 2) were the grenade travels 20 yards or so before arming
    2 - have the blast radius kill the assault guy too since he hit me with a grenade from 7 feet away

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He's may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

    I don't get this "identify with the main character" thing so many people are on about, especially when the character you're supposed to identify with is someone like that. Are there really so many people out there who are completely uninteresting with no defining qualities whatsoever and they require a character just like them to identify with?

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

    I can see how him being a socially retarded near mute would help a lot of players identify with him.

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    reVerse wrote: »
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He's may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

    I don't get this "identify with the main character" thing so many people are on about, especially when the character you're supposed to identify with is someone like that. Are there really so many people out there who are completely uninteresting with no defining qualities whatsoever and they require a character just like them to identify with?

    Think of it like Half Life or even Halo. Gordon and Master Chief are two of the most recognizable main characters in the whole of gaming. Yet Chief is nearly mute, and Gordon IS completely mute. Essentially it's the game saying "the character only talks when it helps the story or when it fits, but for the most part think of him as you."

    Kind of a fill in the blanks type of deal.

    Some call it lazy, others call it brilliant. Personally, I think it works so long as the story the game is trying to tell supports it.

    Edit: And I don't really think of Preston as Joe Action Hero. He's more like a guy who just wants to go home. He's caught up in all this messed up stuff because he got sent to the cannon-fodder battalion, and now he's just riding it out until it's time to go home. That's why he's never overly-enthusiastic about anything. He just wants it all to be over.

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  • DietarySupplementDietarySupplement Still not approved by the FDA Dublin, OHRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Cantido wrote: »
    My first Battlefield game since the original.

    I've forgotten how much dying sucks. But I know how to spot people.

    So much running.

    Spawn with your squad you silly goose.

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  • Magic RadioMagic Radio Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Carl Gustav is a pretty classy fellow; especially when someone is tracer darting the helicopters.

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  • John ZoidbergJohn Zoidberg Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Zzulu wrote: »
    What is fun: Ruining the enemy with the heli

    What is not fun: Getting a DC while piloting the heli

    I can picture the reaction from the passengers right now.

    What is fun: Swimming out to one of the islands on... the autumny island map ( I really need to learn map names ) and calling in a mortar strike on the chopper, taking it out just as it starts to take off. I felt like a douche afterwards though so I don't think I will do it again.

    I also had a sniper duel with someone on another island. We were pinging shots back and forth until I remembered I still had the mortar strike.

    <<< douche.

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  • reVersereVerse Attack and Dethrone God Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He's may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

    I don't get this "identify with the main character" thing so many people are on about, especially when the character you're supposed to identify with is someone like that. Are there really so many people out there who are completely uninteresting with no defining qualities whatsoever and they require a character just like them to identify with?

    Think of it like Half Life or even Halo. Gordon and Master Chief are two of the most recognizable main characters in the whole of gaming. Yet Chief is nearly mute, and Gordon IS completely mute. Essentially it's the game saying "the character only talks when it helps the story or when it fits, but for the most part think of him as you."

    Kind of a fill in the blanks type of deal.

    Yeah, that's kind of the thing I hate. I don't want someone who is silent and uninteresting and "you", because he's not me, is he? I'm not a stupid cyborg who does whatever he's told, and I'm not some idiotic scientist who never once bothers asking "so these aliens, how did they take over the world"?

    Games shouldn't give you an uninteresting main character to "be you" because that's stupid. Give me an interesting charater who I can cheer for and care about and be excited about. If you're not going to do that, why bother having a main character in the first place? Just give the player a cardboard box to control and call it a day.

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  • Vic_HazardVic_Hazard Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Silent protagonists in games isn't something new. As stated they're there for you to identify with, a strong personality would create a subject of it's own, a silent protagonist is supposed to be (in your mind) yourself. Really common in video games.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Am I the only one going "hey, I'm actually having fun in singleplayer now?"

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    reVerse wrote: »
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He's may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

    I don't get this "identify with the main character" thing so many people are on about, especially when the character you're supposed to identify with is someone like that. Are there really so many people out there who are completely uninteresting with no defining qualities whatsoever and they require a character just like them to identify with?

    Think of it like Half Life or even Halo. Gordon and Master Chief are two of the most recognizable main characters in the whole of gaming. Yet Chief is nearly mute, and Gordon IS completely mute. Essentially it's the game saying "the character only talks when it helps the story or when it fits, but for the most part think of him as you."

    Kind of a fill in the blanks type of deal.

    Yeah, that's kind of the thing I hate. I don't want someone who is silent and uninteresting and "you", because he's not me, is he? I'm not a stupid cyborg who does whatever he's told, and I'm not some idiotic scientist who never once bothers asking "so these aliens, how did they take over the world"?

    Games shouldn't give you an uninteresting main character to "be you" because that's stupid. Give me an interesting charater who I can cheer for and care about and be excited about. If you're not going to do that, why bother having a main character in the first place? Just give the player a cardboard box to control and call it a day.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree. But Gordon being mute actually kind of works in the context of the game. How HL tells its story is through over-hearing conversations and exploring the environments. Which fits with Gordon not saying a word. As a character he's wholly un-interesting.

    Same story with Preston(go back to my other post on page 1, I edited it). He's not terribly interesting, but in the context of the game he fits. The story is primarily told through sarge, haggard, and sweetwater. But they all 3 have their specializations. Preston is there to serve as the guy who does everything they don't. He's not a tech guy, he's not a leader, and he's not explosives obsessed. But he can drive tanks, fly helicopters, etc, etc. Having the other 3 characters go outside what the game says they specialize in makes no sense. Hence in comes Preston with no specialization and the ability to do everything the player would WANT to do.

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  • Lionel-RichieLionel-Richie Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The problem with that is half of the time everyone hates the main character's given personality.

    Even awesome ones like Kane in Kane and Lynch. Ol' Jeff was like COMPLETELY BAD PERSONALITY when it was awesome (despite the game being a mess).

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  • CarbonFireCarbonFire See you in the countryRegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Carl Gustav is a pretty classy fellow

    This should so be the thread title.

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  • LeitnerLeitner Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The problem with that is half of the time everyone hates the main character's given personality.

    Even awesome ones like Kane in Kane and Lynch. Ol' Jeff was like COMPLETELY BAD PERSONALITY when it was awesome (despite the game being a mess).

    This is why you have ensemble casts. And it makes a hell of a lot more sense narrative wise as well, rather than being all ‘Preston do everything’.

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The problem with that is half of the time everyone hates the main character's given personality.

    Even awesome ones like Kane in Kane and Lynch. Ol' Jeff was like COMPLETELY BAD PERSONALITY when it was awesome (despite the game being a mess).

    People hate on Nathan Drake in the Uncharted games, even though the characters personality is PERFECT for the game...

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  • ZombieSheepZombieSheep Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    strategery wrote: »
    reVerse wrote: »
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    Recon and Engy are my two favourite classes. Assault is okay too, but he's basically the default gun guy that has been the star of every shooter ever. Medic I haven't really played.

    About the singleplayer: I haven't played it a whole lot yet, but I can already tell that it's suffering pretty badly from the Bland American Hero syndrome. The other guys on your team all stand apart from each other and even the pilot guy has a well defined personality, but the main character might as well be called Guy Mann, he's so generic and uninteresting.

    Didn't play the first one did ya? He's may be the guy you play as, but he serves more as narrator. The other 3, or in BC2s case 4 counting the pilot, are the real stars. Preston is just there to give the player someone to identify with.

    I don't get this "identify with the main character" thing so many people are on about, especially when the character you're supposed to identify with is someone like that. Are there really so many people out there who are completely uninteresting with no defining qualities whatsoever and they require a character just like them to identify with?

    Think of it like Half Life or even Halo. Gordon and Master Chief are two of the most recognizable main characters in the whole of gaming. Yet Chief is nearly mute, and Gordon IS completely mute. Essentially it's the game saying "the character only talks when it helps the story or when it fits, but for the most part think of him as you."

    Kind of a fill in the blanks type of deal.

    Yeah, that's kind of the thing I hate. I don't want someone who is silent and uninteresting and "you", because he's not me, is he? I'm not a stupid cyborg who does whatever he's told, and I'm not some idiotic scientist who never once bothers asking "so these aliens, how did they take over the world"?

    Games shouldn't give you an uninteresting main character to "be you" because that's stupid. Give me an interesting charater who I can cheer for and care about and be excited about. If you're not going to do that, why bother having a main character in the first place? Just give the player a cardboard box to control and call it a day.

    Don't get me wrong, I completely agree. But Gordon being mute actually kind of works in the context of the game. How HL tells its story is through over-hearing conversations and exploring the environments. Which fits with Gordon not saying a word. As a character he's wholly un-interesting.

    Same story with Preston(go back to my other post on page 1, I edited it). He's not terribly interesting, but in the context of the game he fits. The story is primarily told through sarge, haggard, and sweetwater. But they all 3 have their specializations. Preston is there to serve as the guy who does everything they don't. He's not a tech guy, he's not a leader, and he's not explosives obsessed. But he can drive tanks, fly helicopters, etc, etc. Having the other 3 characters go outside what the game says they specialize in makes no sense. Hence in comes Preston with no specialization and the ability to do everything the player would WANT to do.

    I think the reason why Gorden worked so well back in the days was because the game allowed player some degree of freedom towards npcs. You can ask two different people about who they think Gorden is like, one will tell you he is a mass murderer the other one will tell you he is a living saint. Players can inject their own personality into the character in some degree by the action they take in game.

    All in all silent protagonist works well when the game supports it, but it is also a safe bet most of the time. It's usually better to have a boring protagonist then one that have a personalty people hates.

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  • GoombaGoomba __BANNED USERS regular
    edited March 2010
    I don't understand why anyone would use the M95. It's inaccurate and still two-body-shot kills people. Oh boy, it's like literally every other bolt action in the gaaaaame, only less accurate and with a slower firing rate.

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  • Xeno idXeno id Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I officially vote Assault as the most stingy class of them all.

    I have a great idea for a PA comic.

    A medic is reviving people while killing people and throwing out health packs. He gets jumped by several guys, kills 1 with his gun and runs out of ammo and beats down two other guys with the butt of his gun.

    Bloodied and bewildered he keeps bashing faces in with his now bloodied gun as an assault runs by. The medic yells desperately for ammo as the assault guy looks at him....looks at the helicopter....looks back at the medic.....looks back at the helicopter.....Jumps in the helicopter and flips it backwards blowing it up.

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  • strategerystrategery Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Goomba wrote: »
    I don't understand why anyone would use the M95. It's inaccurate and still two-body-shot kills people. Oh boy, it's like literally every other bolt action in the gaaaaame, only less accurate and with a slower firing rate.

    but it has such an awesome sound.....

    And I don't get why it's so inaccurate. Thing is a laser beam in SP, and it should be a laser beam in multiplayer.. Unless it was a one shot kill, then it should be slightly less accurate to balance it out.


    yea people need to drop ammo boxes as assault more often. Not just when they run out of GL ammo. But when everyone else is running low on ammo too..... fucking silly geese.

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  • ZzuluZzulu Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I can't even play the game right now

    "can't connect to EA servers"




    Yay.

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  • EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator, Administrator admin
    edited March 2010
    That godawful fog horn needs to be replaced with this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iekGOi3IPcE

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  • Vic_HazardVic_Hazard Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Goomba wrote: »
    I don't understand why anyone would use the M95. It's inaccurate and still two-body-shot kills people. Oh boy, it's like literally every other bolt action in the gaaaaame, only less accurate and with a slower firing rate.

    Uh, is it possible to shoot the gunner on a helicopter from beneath? Because i got the m95 to do some chopper shooting, stood right beneath the thing and somehow killed the gunner.

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