I only just heard that conversation today, after wayyy too many times through ME1. That's what I get for tabbing out whenever I step into an elevator, I guess.
I was watching some of the ME1 videos on youtube, mainly dialog with wrex, and between that and my interaction with him on Tuchanka, it really isn't fair to compare grunt to wrex.
Grunt's like a young, impulsive teenager that doesn't even know what he wants, other than to punch/headbutt things. Throughout the game, you help give him some foresight and turn him into a proper adult krogan.
Wrex, on the other hand, is already a battle-hardened veteran of a krogan, who has seen as much leadership as he has combat. As you learn more about wrex, you find out what made him the krogran he is, and you can then persuade him to change his ways (or just kill him on virmire, assholes).
That's like comparing ME1 Tali to ME2 Samara, their experiences are so drastically different that they can't be compared, regardless of any similarities.
i've heard remarkably few comparisons between the two, really
bioware did a good job making them two distinct characters
I was watching some of the ME1 videos on youtube, mainly dialog with wrex, and between that and my interaction with him on Tuchanka, it really isn't fair to compare grunt to wrex.
Grunt's like a young, impulsive teenager that doesn't even know what he wants, other than to punch/headbutt things. Throughout the game, you help give him some foresight and turn him into a proper adult krogan.
Wrex, on the other hand, is already a battle-hardened veteran of a krogan, who has seen as much leadership as he has combat. As you learn more about wrex, you find out what made him the krogran he is, and you can then persuade him to change his ways (or just kill him on virmire, assholes).
That's like comparing ME1 Tali to ME2 Samara, their experiences are so drastically different that they can't be compared, regardless of any similarities.
i've heard remarkably few comparisons between the two, really
bioware did a good job making them two distinct characters
it's like wrex said in ME1
grunt is always looking for fights
wrex knows the best fights will come to him
wrex is a friend
grunt is your devoted student
Pretty much, Grunt calls you Battlemaster after you sort him out. He's your weapon of war.
Wrex is a trusted companion who has the wisdom of 1500 years behind his Krogan warrior skills.
"Duster" and "Birk" are the two insults I remember from TORMENT. What was the name of the talking skull companion ? He had all sorts of great dialogue.
You know what would make a great conversation ? The skull talking to the asari bartender.
I was watching some of the ME1 videos on youtube, mainly dialog with wrex, and between that and my interaction with him on Tuchanka, it really isn't fair to compare grunt to wrex.
Grunt's like a young, impulsive teenager that doesn't even know what he wants, other than to punch/headbutt things. Throughout the game, you help give him some foresight and turn him into a proper adult krogan.
Wrex, on the other hand, is already a battle-hardened veteran of a krogan, who has seen as much leadership as he has combat. As you learn more about wrex, you find out what made him the krogran he is, and you can then persuade him to change his ways (or just kill him on virmire, assholes).
That's like comparing ME1 Tali to ME2 Samara, their experiences are so drastically different that they can't be compared, regardless of any similarities.
i've heard remarkably few comparisons between the two, really
bioware did a good job making them two distinct characters
it's like wrex said in ME1
grunt is always looking for fights
wrex knows the best fights will come to him
wrex is a friend
grunt is your devoted student
Pretty much, Grunt calls you Battlemaster after you sort him out. He's your weapon of war.
Wrex is a trusted companion who has the wisdom of 1500 years behind his Krogan warrior skills.
man grunt god damn loves you if you treat him right, like a puppy
can't remember all the times he's butted in when somebody disputed shepard's honour
I was watching some of the ME1 videos on youtube, mainly dialog with wrex, and between that and my interaction with him on Tuchanka, it really isn't fair to compare grunt to wrex.
Grunt's like a young, impulsive teenager that doesn't even know what he wants, other than to punch/headbutt things. Throughout the game, you help give him some foresight and turn him into a proper adult krogan.
Wrex, on the other hand, is already a battle-hardened veteran of a krogan, who has seen as much leadership as he has combat. As you learn more about wrex, you find out what made him the krogran he is, and you can then persuade him to change his ways (or just kill him on virmire, assholes).
That's like comparing ME1 Tali to ME2 Samara, their experiences are so drastically different that they can't be compared, regardless of any similarities.
i've heard remarkably few comparisons between the two, really
bioware did a good job making them two distinct characters
it's like wrex said in ME1
grunt is always looking for fights
wrex knows the best fights will come to him
wrex is a friend
grunt is your devoted student
Pretty much, Grunt calls you Battlemaster after you sort him out. He's your weapon of war.
Wrex is a trusted companion who has the wisdom of 1500 years behind his Krogan warrior skills.
man grunt god damn loves you if you treat him right, like a puppy
can't remember all the times he's butted in when somebody disputed shepard's honour
There should be squad-based interrupts.
Shepard: "I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions." /snaps fingers
Grunt: /headbutts reporter
The captain's quarters doesn't have windows to four crew rooms (including Jacob's) for them to watch.
Judging by that and her vacuumed jumpsuit, she's apparently an exhibitionist!
Amen. And also,
somehow she managed a costume change (in five minutes! With leather that tight I doubt it's possible, even for an engineered freak) since I had her in the alternate one when she invited Shep down to engineering. Clearly the white one is her "money" costume.
I actually posted that very suggestion on the bioware boards (I know, throwing it in a sewer drain). I would love to have interactions where squad members would interrupt, just like shepard's renegade/paragon interrupts, based on how they were treated (renegade shepard = renegade squad members) and based on who you brought to what mission.
I would've loved to have legion interrupt the councillors and inform them of how hugely incorrect their assertions are about the geth, and when called a "trophy bot" inform them that there are 1185 programs, all in unanimous agreement, that the council is full of idiots.
I was watching some of the ME1 videos on youtube, mainly dialog with wrex, and between that and my interaction with him on Tuchanka, it really isn't fair to compare grunt to wrex.
Grunt's like a young, impulsive teenager that doesn't even know what he wants, other than to punch/headbutt things. Throughout the game, you help give him some foresight and turn him into a proper adult krogan.
Wrex, on the other hand, is already a battle-hardened veteran of a krogan, who has seen as much leadership as he has combat. As you learn more about wrex, you find out what made him the krogran he is, and you can then persuade him to change his ways (or just kill him on virmire, assholes).
That's like comparing ME1 Tali to ME2 Samara, their experiences are so drastically different that they can't be compared, regardless of any similarities.
i've heard remarkably few comparisons between the two, really
bioware did a good job making them two distinct characters
it's like wrex said in ME1
grunt is always looking for fights
wrex knows the best fights will come to him
wrex is a friend
grunt is your devoted student
They did a hell of a job considering all the bellyaching that was going on before ME2 was released. We absolutely loved Wrex.
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edited March 2010
Grunt strikes me as the kind of individual who'd eat a phone book to prove his might, rather than rip it in half.
also: urz wins twice, then loses once. you can make 500 off each of these, 1500 in all
that's all i know about the victories, but they are scripted and they go the same way i think
so it's not repeatable for infinite cash monies?
You can re-hack and re-bypass things, though. I noticed that if I tapped A really fast after finishing, it would sometimes pop back up and give me money again. I didn't bother trying to exploit it that much, though, since it seemed silly.
Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
edited March 2010
I love Grunt. He went from being a totally meh character in my mind on my first playthrough, to one of my favourite team members now. In fact I just love the krogan so hard now. ME2 really gave them the best treatment. I really hope there's a happy resolution for the krogan in ME3.
I love Grunt. He went from being a totally meh character in my mind on my first playthrough, to one of my favourite team members now. In fact I just love the krogan so hard now. ME2 really gave them the best treatment. I really hope there's a happy resolution for the krogan in ME3.
also: urz wins twice, then loses once. you can make 500 off each of these, 1500 in all
that's all i know about the victories, but they are scripted and they go the same way i think
so it's not repeatable for infinite cash monies?
You can re-hack and re-bypass things, though. I noticed that if I tapped A really fast after finishing, it would sometimes pop back up and give me money again. I didn't bother trying to exploit it that much, though, since it seemed silly.
hmm. well, in subsequent playthroughs i will likely not spend quite so much time depleting planets.
also, marab is an awesome dude
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I love Grunt. He went from being a totally meh character in my mind on my first playthrough, to one of my favourite team members now. In fact I just love the krogan so hard now. ME2 really gave them the best treatment. I really hope there's a happy resolution for the krogan in ME3.
A really happy resolution for the Krogan would be the genophage gets cured and their infinite swarms take over the galaxy, crushing the Turians under their armored heel.
Edit: If this includes the Turian Councilor, I think I might just be ok with that.
I love Grunt. He went from being a totally meh character in my mind on my first playthrough, to one of my favourite team members now. In fact I just love the krogan so hard now. ME2 really gave them the best treatment. I really hope there's a happy resolution for the krogan in ME3.
Speaking of which, I am so torn about the Genophage.
On one hand, I didn't kill Wrex in the first ME and, next to my bromance with Garrus, he was my favorite character; a total hardass, but had vision which makes him a cool character. Sort of like a buddhist Ghazghkull Thraka and I can totally respect his desire for his people to just survive and stop fighting stupid wars.
On the other, most of the other Krogan are all "GRAAGHAHA!!! KROGAN SMASH!!!!" and then I can understand why the Salarians did what they did, especially in light of how aggressive, tough, long lived, and fertile the Krogan were. They're not aiming for extinction, just pre-industrial reproduction levels so the Krogan don't kill everyone else which is an honest concern.
During Mordin's loyalty mission, I literally was torn for like 5 miniutes when he asked what he should do with the Krogan xenophage cure. I eventually told him to delete it and felt like a dick for doing it, like I could never look Wrex in the face again.
He sold numerous Krogan to the Collectors in exchange for the ability to make one Grunt. Anyone asking what the Collectors/Reapers did with those? In light of Sovereign's interest in the Krogan -and curing of the genophage- in ME1 there are some interesting scenarios foreshadowed for ME3:
a) Krogan Reaper in ME3 (not betting too much on this)
b) Army of Krogan fighting for the Reapers
c) Army of altered Krogan (ala the Protheans->Collectors) fighting for the Reapers
There is the likely scenario of Krogan on Krogan warfare in ME3. But Krogan fighting Krogan is a pretty safe bet period.
Just out of curiosity, why turn the Protheans into bugs? Weren't they Cthulu looking things?
Regarding collectors:
Like how husks are the left-overs of humans, collectors are left-overs of protheans repurposed with tons of nano-machines and cybernetic enhancements to have much more functions than husks.
In other words, if reapers ever repurposed humanity like they did protheans, the final result won't be far off from husks.
Wasn't the ME1 "cure" to the genophage revealed to simply be cloning? Either way they were trying to mass produce a krogan army for Saren/Sovereign, and seeing how much trouble a member of the Salarian team that worked on the genophage had with curing it, I imagine they found attempting to clone them much simpler.
Of course, it would have been nice to actually discover that bit of information while you were actually there, presumably with Wrex there to see it for himself.
If you new game + with a ME2 character, do you start with your renegade/paragon bars full, like in ME 1? I want to use you-know-who next game, but getting high enough scores basically takes the entire game.
If you new game + with a ME2 character, do you start with your renegade/paragon bars full, like in ME 1? I want to use you-know-who next game, but getting high enough scores basically takes the entire game.
Nope - NG+ sucks in ME2 - you get all your levels, weapon, bonus mineral/credits, but none of the paragon/renegade points and none of the upgrades as well.
And the best part? All of your enemies are scaled to your level - meaning they become bullet sponges.
Really? thats weak. Especially since getting your score high enough not only involves playing the entirety of the game, but also acting wildly out of character. My renegades generally aren't total assholes.
If you new game + with a ME2 character, do you start with your renegade/paragon bars full, like in ME 1? I want to use you-know-who next game, but getting high enough scores basically takes the entire game.
Nope - NG+ sucks in ME2 - you get all your levels, weapon, bonus mineral/credits, but none of the paragon/renegade points and none of the upgrades as well.
And the best part? All of your enemies are scaled to your level - meaning they become bullet sponges.
The R/P checks are scaled to level, too. Even saving it til the last thing I did, I was never able to get my points high enough to break Morinth's hold on my NG+ play.
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I only just heard that conversation today, after wayyy too many times through ME1. That's what I get for tabbing out whenever I step into an elevator, I guess.
and now, to try for a Jeff-Goldblum-as-Ian-Malcolm Shepard
wrex is a friend
grunt is your devoted student
Pretty much, Grunt calls you Battlemaster after you sort him out. He's your weapon of war.
Wrex is a trusted companion who has the wisdom of 1500 years behind his Krogan warrior skills.
It's BERK, dude
Cockney Rhyming Slang, look it up
man grunt god damn loves you if you treat him right, like a puppy
can't remember all the times he's butted in when somebody disputed shepard's honour
Shepard: "I've had enough of your disingenuous assertions." /snaps fingers
Grunt: /headbutts reporter
Origin: Viycktor
Amen. And also,
I would've loved to have legion interrupt the councillors and inform them of how hugely incorrect their assertions are about the geth, and when called a "trophy bot" inform them that there are 1185 programs, all in unanimous agreement, that the council is full of idiots.
Haha just kidding, he'll use his serious biceps. Look at him, he's pretty fucking ripped."
They did a hell of a job considering all the bellyaching that was going on before ME2 was released. We absolutely loved Wrex.
Nah, Grunt would tear the person offering him the phonebook in half. Then he'd shit on their dog.
The only way that'd be impressive is if an Elcor offered him the phonebook in the first place.
so it's not repeatable for infinite cash monies?
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You can re-hack and re-bypass things, though. I noticed that if I tapped A really fast after finishing, it would sometimes pop back up and give me money again. I didn't bother trying to exploit it that much, though, since it seemed silly.
Indeed. May death come swiftly to their enemies.
hmm. well, in subsequent playthroughs i will likely not spend quite so much time depleting planets.
also, marab is an awesome dude
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A really happy resolution for the Krogan would be the genophage gets cured and their infinite swarms take over the galaxy, crushing the Turians under their armored heel.
Edit: If this includes the Turian Councilor, I think I might just be ok with that.
Speaking of which, I am so torn about the Genophage.
On the other, most of the other Krogan are all "GRAAGHAHA!!! KROGAN SMASH!!!!" and then I can understand why the Salarians did what they did, especially in light of how aggressive, tough, long lived, and fertile the Krogan were. They're not aiming for extinction, just pre-industrial reproduction levels so the Krogan don't kill everyone else which is an honest concern.
During Mordin's loyalty mission, I literally was torn for like 5 miniutes when he asked what he should do with the Krogan xenophage cure. I eventually told him to delete it and felt like a dick for doing it, like I could never look Wrex in the face again.
Damn. Good game if it sucks you in like that.
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a) Krogan Reaper in ME3 (not betting too much on this)
b) Army of Krogan fighting for the Reapers
c) Army of altered Krogan (ala the Protheans->Collectors) fighting for the Reapers
Origin: Viycktor
Collectors are probably as far away from Protheans as you are.
Regarding collectors:
In other words, if reapers ever repurposed humanity like they did protheans, the final result won't be far off from husks.
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In that case, wait till you meet the one with the regular fog :X
Of course, it would have been nice to actually discover that bit of information while you were actually there, presumably with Wrex there to see it for himself.
Nope - NG+ sucks in ME2 - you get all your levels, weapon, bonus mineral/credits, but none of the paragon/renegade points and none of the upgrades as well.
And the best part? All of your enemies are scaled to your level - meaning they become bullet sponges.
XBL Gametag: mailarde
Screen Digest LOL3RZZ
I'm not. But I've considering getting it for PC as well, since I really want to take screens and you can't do that on 360.
The R/P checks are scaled to level, too. Even saving it til the last thing I did, I was never able to get my points high enough to break Morinth's hold on my NG+ play.
Re-importing is definitely better.