It's the colours that put me off, too, but I guess since we got the new forms they've had to relate to the choice of skin tones which doesn't leave Trolls with appealing options.
Personally I'd have been happier with a tiger styled cat form and no other options on the skins than having four ugly skins.
It's not like people won't be able to change the color. You are more than welcome to choose the muted troll skin tones that will correspond with less bright cat/bear forms.
It's not like people won't be able to change the color. You are more than welcome to choose the muted troll skin tones that will correspond with less bright cat/bear forms.
Yeah, I think my problem is that I don't like any of the cat skins.
I'll probably do a reskin of it to shut up my whiney face, never got caught doing it with the old forms so it will probably be cool.
So I took my druid out of storage. Haven't played him since the Naxx days, so there are plenty of changes.
Let's see... Does Mangle completely replace Shred, or do I want to Mangle for the debuff and then Shred the night away?
Oh god, the JOHN FUCKING MADDEN is coming back to me.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
I noticed in the lower levels, the bonus damage on mangle is absurd. I know at 80 with the correct talents shred does more after a mangle due to the bleed bonus talent and the mangle debuff affecting shred, but im currently 66 and my mangle still BLOWS AWAY shred even if I had that talent, which I dont. I would rather have 10% more damage for now while its a choice.
I obviously se the mangle glyph as well, but thats because no other glyph is really good for grinding as they all are long fight benefits. My other glyph is rejuv for chrissakes. After playing a shaman feral feels difficult cause I dont have as many options for multiple mobs yet (freakin shaman get chain lightning AND magma totem AND nova so early they can aoe while single targetting easilly). Needing to be creative with dropping dots and switching to get any form of AOE is challenging. Of course, by the time i get good at it I will have swipe and it becomes loleasymode.
Ok, took the advice of swipeswipeswipeswipe instead of using swipe Demo roar, and I gotta say thanks! Ive been doing so much better as a tank with that. Also, figured out that I can basically add Maul into anything. Maul + Mangle, Maul + Swipe, Maul + Lacerate, its been awesome!
Ok, took the advice of swipeswipeswipeswipe instead of using swipe Demo roar, and I gotta say thanks! Ive been doing so much better as a tank with that. Also, figured out that I can basically add Maul into anything. Maul + Mangle, Maul + Swipe, Maul + Lacerate, its been awesome!
Make sure you have the Maul Glyph.
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Shred is more damage than Mangle, but Mangle lacks a position requirement. So Mangle can outdps Shred, but only if you have trouble keeping behind the target.
I don't know if this is true for all dress/skirt-wearing classes, but it would be nice to not lose the bottom half my druid's tabard.
This is a small, but not insignificant, part of the reason I chose Ikfirus's Sack of Wonder as my non set piece for T10. Also, it's amazing, but still, it's not a dress either.
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The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I don't know if this is true for all dress/skirt-wearing classes, but it would be nice to not lose the bottom half my druid's tabard.
This is a small, but not insignificant, part of the reason I chose Ikfirus's Sack of Wonder as my non set piece for T10. Also, it's amazing, but still, it's not a dress either.
I don't regularly wear a tabard on my druid so the fact that was the best offset piece for bears made me sad, even if I don't get to see it much I prefer the druid robes :<
So can anybody tell me what healing on a Druid at level 60 should be like? My wife and I just levelled some new 60s with RAF and hers is a Boomkin/Resto Druid. Now that we're 60 we'll start doing instances in between quests, and she hasn't had to spec Resto just yet so it's going to be learning from scratch. She doesn't have Lifebloom or Nourish yet, so is it just mostly Rejuv and Wild Growth? Regrowth on the tank for a bigger spike on bosses? Is swiftmend something you use constantly?
She has a mouseover NS/HT macro set up, but that's the only time she'll ever cast HT, right?
Thinking about it, I have no experience levelling a resto druid in that range since in TBC I levelled as Feral and Wotlk I levelled as Balance. My guess would be to look into using the HT glyph so you have a direct heal that casts faster than Regrowth until you get Nourish. I don't know how needed it is, though, especially after you get Lifebloom at 64. If you don't use the HT glyph then you'll want the Regrowth glyph for sure because that'll be your only quick direct heal and you'll definitely be healing over the Regrowth HoT a lot.
Swiftmend's a weird position of being an ohshit button while also being a useful supplimental tank heal by having such a short cooldown. It can be used as the former in fights where you know spike damage will happen to the group so you blanket the group in Rejuvs in preparation and used as the latter in fights where there will be no surprises on anyone except for the tank.
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GrobianWhat's on sale?Pliers!Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
I leveled Resto to 40ish and Regrowth (with Glyph) and Rejuv was all I needed. I wouldn't glyph HT, I'd take Swiftmend over it.
Mangle for sure. The other is based on what you'll be doing: tanking is Maul, dps in dungeons is Shred, and for pure solo grinding I think Rake's the only other useful one at your level. For Minors, you'll probably want Dash and Thorns.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
When I went resto around 60 for groups I grabbed the glyph that makes thier big heal quick to cast (forget the name, too much shamaning in my life) and that makes it a lot more entertaining before nourish. It does a pretty damn nice chunk of healing and pops out quick, so its good for emergencies. But its expensive as shit, so its like an oh shit heal and I kind of like it like that.
So can anybody tell me what healing on a Druid at level 60 should be like? My wife and I just levelled some new 60s with RAF and hers is a Boomkin/Resto Druid. Now that we're 60 we'll start doing instances in between quests, and she hasn't had to spec Resto just yet so it's going to be learning from scratch. She doesn't have Lifebloom or Nourish yet, so is it just mostly Rejuv and Wild Growth? Regrowth on the tank for a bigger spike on bosses? Is swiftmend something you use constantly?
She has a mouseover NS/HT macro set up, but that's the only time she'll ever cast HT, right?
I leveled as resto all throughout but when I was 60 it was a different game. Healing should be pretty similar to end game though minus Nourish. Rejuv/Regrowth will be your go to heals. Stack them both on the tank and she should be good to go. NS>HT should be the only time you use HT. I typically use SM when someone takes spike damage and they need a quick pick up. If she glyphs regrowth, which I did leveling up, it ends up being really good and is pretty mana efficent. Tranq is a good "oh shit" button as well and should not be forgotten about. If things are going south don't be afraid to pop Tranq.
LB probably won't change healing style too much when she gets it. It's just not as efficent as it used to be but if a tank is taking heavy damage the extra heals from a rolling LB stack can make a big difference. WG is amazing but at lower levels can be a bit of a mana drain (lol @ druid mana issues). Really the only think she will lack is a fast spot heal but until Nourish it's a hole in all Druid's aresenal. Regrowth can be chain cast if need be and remember to keep a rejuv on the target to and SM if needed.
If you're wearing anything approaching a modern set of gear (more recent than Ulduar, i.e. you've run a bunch of 5-mans) you're probably over the critical threshold for gemming armor pen instead of agility. If you happen to have a Mjolnir Runestone/Needle-Encrusted Scorpion/Grim Toll, there's a soft cap over which you'd resume gemming Agility, but that soft cap is at least 700 armor pen (depending on the trinket).
When I went resto around 60 for groups I grabbed the glyph that makes thier big heal quick to cast (forget the name, too much shamaning in my life) and that makes it a lot more entertaining before nourish. It does a pretty damn nice chunk of healing and pops out quick, so its good for emergencies. But its expensive as shit, so its like an oh shit heal and I kind of like it like that.
It seems fun, but you're going to be hotting things anyway, so Nourish becomes superior when glyphed.
When I went resto around 60 for groups I grabbed the glyph that makes thier big heal quick to cast (forget the name, too much shamaning in my life) and that makes it a lot more entertaining before nourish. It does a pretty damn nice chunk of healing and pops out quick, so its good for emergencies. But its expensive as shit, so its like an oh shit heal and I kind of like it like that.
It seems fun, but you're going to be hotting things anyway, so Nourish becomes superior when glyphed.
He's not saying glyphed Healing Touch is better than Nourish. He was just saying glyphed Healing Touch made it more interesting for him prior to getting Nourish, in response to my asking how a resto druid should be healing at ~level 60. You don't get Nourish until level 80.
They did for some other classes like Warriors but they'll go through and lower the level of a lot more stuff across the board in Cata . Like in Cata I hear you get Cat form first.
They did for some other classes like Warriors but they'll go through and lower the level of a lot more stuff across the board in Cata . Like in Cata I hear you get Cat form first.
This makes so much sense. I'm not sure when I finally decided to try cat form, but I remember still using bear form for solo questing for quite a while after getting cat.
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Personally I'd have been happier with a tiger styled cat form and no other options on the skins than having four ugly skins.
I'll probably do a reskin of it to shut up my whiney face, never got caught doing it with the old forms so it will probably be cool.
So I guess I'm switching to Worgen if I roll on my brother's server.
Let's see... Does Mangle completely replace Shred, or do I want to Mangle for the debuff and then Shred the night away?
Oh god, the JOHN FUCKING MADDEN is coming back to me.
I obviously se the mangle glyph as well, but thats because no other glyph is really good for grinding as they all are long fight benefits. My other glyph is rejuv for chrissakes. After playing a shaman feral feels difficult cause I dont have as many options for multiple mobs yet (freakin shaman get chain lightning AND magma totem AND nova so early they can aoe while single targetting easilly). Needing to be creative with dropping dots and switching to get any form of AOE is challenging. Of course, by the time i get good at it I will have swipe and it becomes loleasymode.
Mangle for the debuff then Shred. The Mangle debuff being longer makes it less John Maddeny.
Make sure you have the Maul Glyph.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
This is a small, but not insignificant, part of the reason I chose Ikfirus's Sack of Wonder as my non set piece for T10. Also, it's amazing, but still, it's not a dress either.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I don't regularly wear a tabard on my druid so the fact that was the best offset piece for bears made me sad, even if I don't get to see it much I prefer the druid robes :<
She has a mouseover NS/HT macro set up, but that's the only time she'll ever cast HT, right?
Swiftmend's a weird position of being an ohshit button while also being a useful supplimental tank heal by having such a short cooldown. It can be used as the former in fights where you know spike damage will happen to the group so you blanket the group in Rejuvs in preparation and used as the latter in fights where there will be no surprises on anyone except for the tank.
I leveled as resto all throughout but when I was 60 it was a different game. Healing should be pretty similar to end game though minus Nourish. Rejuv/Regrowth will be your go to heals. Stack them both on the tank and she should be good to go. NS>HT should be the only time you use HT. I typically use SM when someone takes spike damage and they need a quick pick up. If she glyphs regrowth, which I did leveling up, it ends up being really good and is pretty mana efficent. Tranq is a good "oh shit" button as well and should not be forgotten about. If things are going south don't be afraid to pop Tranq.
LB probably won't change healing style too much when she gets it. It's just not as efficent as it used to be but if a tank is taking heavy damage the extra heals from a rolling LB stack can make a big difference. WG is amazing but at lower levels can be a bit of a mana drain (lol @ druid mana issues). Really the only think she will lack is a fast spot heal but until Nourish it's a hole in all Druid's aresenal. Regrowth can be chain cast if need be and remember to keep a rejuv on the target to and SM if needed.
Ok enough rambling from me.
Supposedly if you hit certain amounts of ArP and have the needle-encrusted scorpion.
Personally I just stack agi/crit/etc...
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
It's ArP to a certain point if you have Grim Toll.
He's not saying glyphed Healing Touch is better than Nourish. He was just saying glyphed Healing Touch made it more interesting for him prior to getting Nourish, in response to my asking how a resto druid should be healing at ~level 60. You don't get Nourish until level 80.
This makes so much sense. I'm not sure when I finally decided to try cat form, but I remember still using bear form for solo questing for quite a while after getting cat.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.