I made this account just for this thread because I'm addicted to mass effect 1 & 2 and there is one thing that bugs me and i hope someone could answer this for me... Why the hell does everyone speak human English? Did humanity demand this just so we didn't have to learn like fifty million alien languages?
built-in translators
at one point in the ME1 DLC you hear a batarian babbling in his native tongue before the translator catches up
yeah, it's sort of a silly convention, but bioware tried rendering alien languages in KOTOR and apparently people couldn't stand it
Also, in ME2 one bit of dialogue between Thane and FemShep involves Thane using some Drell word that doesn't translate and FemShep tapping her ear and saying "Did my translator just glitch?"
So are the Quarians reptiles? I only ask because after talking with Grunt and asking him if he had any other tank imprints on humans, I could have sworn he says something like:
"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
With the way it sounds and with the way it's used, I'd say it's probably the Quarian equivalent of Bastard.
It's what I would assume if ME was a television show, and they had to say 'frell' instead of 'fuck'
But ME is quite comfortable with fuck
This is lifted directly from the ME Wiki so take it with a grain of salt, but
Language
Now that the quarians are reduced to a small, insular population they have one common language. Such words as are known have slipped out from intra-quarian insults (Ascension p. 103).
* nedas -- nowhere
* tasi -- no-one
* vas [ship-name] -- crew of
* nar [ship-name] -- child of
* keelah - exclamation
* keelah se'lai - possibly a religious statement, sometimes used in the same terms as a benediction (see above) * bosh'tet - curse/insult, likely being relative to "son of a bitch" or "bastard".
So are the Quarians reptiles? I only ask because after talking with Grunt and asking him if he had any other tank imprints on humans, I could have sworn he says something like:
"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
Grunt does indeed say that. However, Quarians are not necessarily reptiles for several reasons:
A) Turians are not reptilian. They're descended from avians.
Reptiles aren't the only ones to have tough hides. Plenty of mammals have that too.
But yes it does suggest that Quarians have some kind of scales, tough hide, or something like that.
So are the Quarians reptiles? I only ask because after talking with Grunt and asking him if he had any other tank imprints on humans, I could have sworn he says something like:
"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
Grunt does indeed say that. However, Quarians are not necessarily reptiles for several reasons:
A) Turians are not reptilian. They're descended from avians.
Reptiles aren't the only ones to have tough hides. Plenty of mammals have that too.
But yes it does suggest that Quarians have some kind of scales, tough hide, or something like that.
i assumed it meant that since quarians wear exosuits al the time, you'd need something to break them open
and i'm pretty sure quarians are mammals, what with the mammal-like mammary glands
So are the Quarians reptiles? I only ask because after talking with Grunt and asking him if he had any other tank imprints on humans, I could have sworn he says something like:
"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
Grunt does indeed say that. However, Quarians are not necessarily reptiles for several reasons:
A) Turians are not reptilian. They're descended from avians.
Reptiles aren't the only ones to have tough hides. Plenty of mammals have that too.
But yes it does suggest that Quarians have some kind of scales, tough hide, or something like that.
i assumed it meant that since quarians wear exosuits al the time, you'd need something to break them open
and i'm pretty sure quarians are mammals, what with the mammal-like mammary glands
You might think that, but Sci-Fi and Fantasy are prone to giving non-mammals boobs ALL the time.
So are the Quarians reptiles? I only ask because after talking with Grunt and asking him if he had any other tank imprints on humans, I could have sworn he says something like:
"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
Grunt does indeed say that. However, Quarians are not necessarily reptiles for several reasons:
A) Turians are not reptilian. They're descended from avians.
Reptiles aren't the only ones to have tough hides. Plenty of mammals have that too.
But yes it does suggest that Quarians have some kind of scales, tough hide, or something like that.
i assumed it meant that since quarians wear exosuits al the time, you'd need something to break them open
and i'm pretty sure quarians are mammals, what with the mammal-like mammary glands
No, those are actually the poop sacks right there. Ha ha ha!
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One of the codex entries in ME1 mentions that the plating on turians is purely for protecting them against the higher solar radiation exposure of their sun. It's not supposed to provide any armor capabilities whatsoever; probably just like a hard callus over their entire body. So it would probably be resistance against paper cuts, but bullets go through through it just like human skin.
So whatever makes the turians tougher is related to other elements of their biology. Grunt also mentions a turians eyes turning black from a pain response, so it's likely the turians have some sort of extra pain blocking ability some of the other races lack.
So are the Quarians reptiles? I only ask because after talking with Grunt and asking him if he had any other tank imprints on humans, I could have sworn he says something like:
"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
Grunt does indeed say that. However, Quarians are not necessarily reptiles for several reasons:
A) Turians are not reptilian. They're descended from avians.
Reptiles aren't the only ones to have tough hides. Plenty of mammals have that too.
But yes it does suggest that Quarians have some kind of scales, tough hide, or something like that.
or it might be referring to their suits
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I want to see female Salarians, Krogans, and Turians... Not for some fucked up sexual fantasy, but just so I know that they exist.....
Also, in reference to the bachelor party, aparently other races think Asari look most like them, which is curious.
first point- female salarians and krogan are much rarer and valuable than males, so rarely leave the home planet. female turians not exsisting is... and oddity, yeah.
the second point is just a little joke about observer bias or something. everyone looks for the thing they are looking for and finds it.
I want to see female Salarians, Krogans, and Turians... Not for some fucked up sexual fantasy, but just so I know that they exist.....
Also, in reference to the bachelor party, aparently other races think Asari look most like them, which is curious.
first point- female salarians and krogan are much rarer and valuable than males, so rarely leave the home planet. female turians not exsisting is... and oddity, yeah.
the second point is just a little joke about observer bias or something. everyone looks for the thing they are looking for and finds it.
No, I think Asari are mind-controllers and they really look like fucked up walking squid monsters. I never trusted them and now I know why.
i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
I want to see female Salarians, Krogans, and Turians... Not for some fucked up sexual fantasy, but just so I know that they exist.....
Also, in reference to the bachelor party, aparently other races think Asari look most like them, which is curious.
first point- female salarians and krogan are much rarer and valuable than males, so rarely leave the home planet. female turians not exsisting is... and oddity, yeah.
does the codex say anything about turian gender politics?
they seem pretty progressive in almost every other respect, so i'd imagine that they wouldn't be a STAY IN THE KITCHEN kind of race
i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
grunt came out of his tank fully grown, EDI said as much
he just doesn't have a traditional crest, probably because, as said, it's a weak point
he's also got an unusual eye color, but tha'ts probably just a random genetic hiccup
I want to see female Salarians, Krogans, and Turians... Not for some fucked up sexual fantasy, but just so I know that they exist.....
Also, in reference to the bachelor party, aparently other races think Asari look most like them, which is curious.
first point- female salarians and krogan are much rarer and valuable than males, so rarely leave the home planet. female turians not exsisting is... and oddity, yeah.
does the codex say anything about turian gender politics?
they seem pretty progressive in almost every other respect, so i'd imagine that they wouldn't be a STAY IN THE KITCHEN kind of race
now that you mention it, i think i remember reading something about them being a little more sexist than humans
like you say, not exactly "stay in the kitchen" but they aren't subject to the same expectations or respect or something like that
i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
i get the idea that his scales are going to thicken and fuse into his crest. the guy's pretty damn young.
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i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
grunt came out of his tank fully grown, EDI said as much
he just doesn't have a traditional crest, probably because, as said, it's a weak point
he's also got an unusual eye color, but that's probably just a random genetic hiccup
A human can be completely full-grown and also completely bald. The crest isn't something like an arm or a leg, it's something which grows with the krogan like hair. Plus, krogan likely don't start growing a crest until maturity and since Grunt is brand-new full grown, again, he just hasn't had time to grow a crest. Krogans also live for centuries so who knows how long it takes to grow a proper crest; if it took me 200 years to grow something my race sees as part of my identity, I'd be understandably displeased about the possibility of losing it.
The guy who made him did not screw with Grunt's genetics to remove what he thought was no good; he wanted to make the perfect krogan from what was already available to the species, not work on their genetic code to make something new.
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I always though the crest was, like, a vulnerable point or something, and Grunt had been grown to not have one, but have a carapace-like setup instead as a defense mechanism.
i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
grunt came out of his tank fully grown, EDI said as much
he just doesn't have a traditional crest, probably because, as said, it's a weak point
he's also got an unusual eye color, but that's probably just a random genetic hiccup
A human can be completely full-grown and also completely bald. The crest isn't something like an arm or a leg, it's something which grows with the krogan like hair. Plus, krogan likely don't start growing a crest until maturity and since Grunt is brand-new full grown, again, he just hasn't had time to grow a crest. Krogans also live for centuries so who knows how long it takes to grow a proper crest; if it took me 200 years to grow something my race sees as part of my identity, I'd be understandably displeased about the possibility of losing it.
The guy who made him did not screw with Grunt's genetics to remove what he thought was no good; he wanted to make the perfect krogan from what was already available to the species, not work on their genetic code to make something new.
if you have absolutely any basis at all for saying any of this then i'd like to hear it
because right now you're basically writing fanfiction to back yourself up
I want to see female Salarians, Krogans, and Turians... Not for some fucked up sexual fantasy, but just so I know that they exist.....
Also, in reference to the bachelor party, aparently other races think Asari look most like them, which is curious.
first point- female salarians and krogan are much rarer and valuable than males, so rarely leave the home planet. female turians not exsisting is... and oddity, yeah.
does the codex say anything about turian gender politics?
they seem pretty progressive in almost every other respect, so i'd imagine that they wouldn't be a STAY IN THE KITCHEN kind of race
now that you mention it, i think i remember reading something about them being a little more sexist than humans
like you say, not exactly "stay in the kitchen" but they aren't subject to the same expectations or respect or something like that
actually i'm pretty sure Turians hold the genders equal, they are all about meritocracy and letting people have a lot of personal freedom as long as they do their duty.
my favorite Zaeed story is how you can rip off a Krogan's crest if you hit it at a certain point, and that it's the one thing they fear.
Yeah, this was one of my favourites, too.
Also, not sure where all this 'Grunt has no crest stuff' is coming from - it's fused to the top of his head, guys. That it looks different from other Krogans is probably due to a desire to make him visually unique.
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i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
grunt came out of his tank fully grown, EDI said as much
he just doesn't have a traditional crest, probably because, as said, it's a weak point
he's also got an unusual eye color, but that's probably just a random genetic hiccup
A human can be completely full-grown and also completely bald. The crest isn't something like an arm or a leg, it's something which grows with the krogan like hair. Plus, krogan likely don't start growing a crest until maturity and since Grunt is brand-new full grown, again, he just hasn't had time to grow a crest. Krogans also live for centuries so who knows how long it takes to grow a proper crest; if it took me 200 years to grow something my race sees as part of my identity, I'd be understandably displeased about the possibility of losing it.
The guy who made him did not screw with Grunt's genetics to remove what he thought was no good; he wanted to make the perfect krogan from what was already available to the species, not work on their genetic code to make something new.
if you have absolutely any basis at all for saying any of this then i'd like to hear it
because right now you're basically writing fanfiction to back yourself up
and that's silly
Well the hair-growing theory kind of makes sense. Hair is dead cells, if you were grown fully cloned presumably you wouldn't have much hair, given that even though you are fully grown, you've still just been born. If the crests work something like that, then the idea makes sense.
As for the stuff about Okeer's intent, I can't really comment on that.
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if you have absolutely any basis at all for saying any of this then i'd like to hear it
because right now you're basically writing fanfiction to back yourself up
and that's silly
What? And how is anything your saying backed up by anything in the game? Okeer wanted the perfect krogan, yeah, not a better krogan. Crests are part of krogans; if Okeer had wanted to make krogans better, he would've made them immune to the genophage as well. Removing the crest because it's vulnerable under very specific circumstances would be silly because it's a big honking armor plate pretty much all the rest of the time. Makes one hell of a lot more sense that Grunt just doesn't have a fully-developed crest yet because he's young, which all other krogan are able to instantly determine visually.
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Also, in ME2 one bit of dialogue between Thane and FemShep involves Thane using some Drell word that doesn't translate and FemShep tapping her ear and saying "Did my translator just glitch?"
What the hell is a "bosh'tet"?
With the way it sounds and with the way it's used, I'd say it's probably the Quarian equivalent of Bastard.
It's what I would assume if ME was a television show, and they had to say 'frell' instead of 'fuck'
But ME is quite comfortable with fuck
Dear God I can still hear him saying it.
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"I know it's less than a finger deep to sever your spine. Humans, Salerians and Asari are all squishy. Turians and Quarians... not so much."
Plus, Quarians and Turians can eat the same food.
If it's true, with all the fan art you see of Quarians as space elves, there's gonna be a lot of outraged Talimancers when they find out Tali looks like something out of the V mini-series.
Apologies if this has been covered before. These Mass Effect threads move too fast for me to keep up and get anything done in a day.
This is lifted directly from the ME Wiki so take it with a grain of salt, but
Grunt does indeed say that. However, Quarians are not necessarily reptiles for several reasons:
A) Turians are not reptilian. They're descended from avians.
But yes it does suggest that Quarians have some kind of scales, tough hide, or something like that.
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i assumed it meant that since quarians wear exosuits al the time, you'd need something to break them open
and i'm pretty sure quarians are mammals, what with the mammal-like mammary glands
You might think that, but Sci-Fi and Fantasy are prone to giving non-mammals boobs ALL the time.
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No, those are actually the poop sacks right there. Ha ha ha!
So whatever makes the turians tougher is related to other elements of their biology. Grunt also mentions a turians eyes turning black from a pain response, so it's likely the turians have some sort of extra pain blocking ability some of the other races lack.
Also, in reference to the bachelor party, aparently other races think Asari look most like them, which is curious.
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or it might be referring to their suits
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i wouldn't be surprised if that's part of the reason why grunt doesn't have a crest at all
I imagine that would be like having a fingernail torn off except instead of a finger, it's your entire skull. Ouch indeed.
first point- female salarians and krogan are much rarer and valuable than males, so rarely leave the home planet. female turians not exsisting is... and oddity, yeah.
the second point is just a little joke about observer bias or something. everyone looks for the thing they are looking for and finds it.
No, I think Asari are mind-controllers and they really look like fucked up walking squid monsters. I never trusted them and now I know why.
argh, fuck, some of grunt's stories make me wince
taking off a turian plate with a claw hammer, pulling apart a salarian head by the horns
Krogan crests aren't just a thing they have from day one, they have to grow it. Grunt is shiny new and very young so he just hasn't had time to grow one. Makes a lot of sense considering the other krogans immediately know he's very young without even having talked to him yet.
does the codex say anything about turian gender politics?
they seem pretty progressive in almost every other respect, so i'd imagine that they wouldn't be a STAY IN THE KITCHEN kind of race
grunt came out of his tank fully grown, EDI said as much
he just doesn't have a traditional crest, probably because, as said, it's a weak point
he's also got an unusual eye color, but tha'ts probably just a random genetic hiccup
now that you mention it, i think i remember reading something about them being a little more sexist than humans
like you say, not exactly "stay in the kitchen" but they aren't subject to the same expectations or respect or something like that
Man, I walked right into that one didn't I? Although........
i get the idea that his scales are going to thicken and fuse into his crest. the guy's pretty damn young.
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A human can be completely full-grown and also completely bald. The crest isn't something like an arm or a leg, it's something which grows with the krogan like hair. Plus, krogan likely don't start growing a crest until maturity and since Grunt is brand-new full grown, again, he just hasn't had time to grow a crest. Krogans also live for centuries so who knows how long it takes to grow a proper crest; if it took me 200 years to grow something my race sees as part of my identity, I'd be understandably displeased about the possibility of losing it.
The guy who made him did not screw with Grunt's genetics to remove what he thought was no good; he wanted to make the perfect krogan from what was already available to the species, not work on their genetic code to make something new.
if you have absolutely any basis at all for saying any of this then i'd like to hear it
because right now you're basically writing fanfiction to back yourself up
and that's silly
So Grunt not having a full crest has to be a result of that.
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actually i'm pretty sure Turians hold the genders equal, they are all about meritocracy and letting people have a lot of personal freedom as long as they do their duty.
yeah, but a crest is part of what makes a krogan a krogan
you don't go headbutting people with SCALES, man
that's weak turian-ass shit
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Also, not sure where all this 'Grunt has no crest stuff' is coming from - it's fused to the top of his head, guys. That it looks different from other Krogans is probably due to a desire to make him visually unique.
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Well the hair-growing theory kind of makes sense. Hair is dead cells, if you were grown fully cloned presumably you wouldn't have much hair, given that even though you are fully grown, you've still just been born. If the crests work something like that, then the idea makes sense.
As for the stuff about Okeer's intent, I can't really comment on that.
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What? And how is anything your saying backed up by anything in the game? Okeer wanted the perfect krogan, yeah, not a better krogan. Crests are part of krogans; if Okeer had wanted to make krogans better, he would've made them immune to the genophage as well. Removing the crest because it's vulnerable under very specific circumstances would be silly because it's a big honking armor plate pretty much all the rest of the time. Makes one hell of a lot more sense that Grunt just doesn't have a fully-developed crest yet because he's young, which all other krogan are able to instantly determine visually.
yup, this conversation clearly isn't getting anywhere
i'll just stick with my theory