Eh. Having voice chat might be enough for some people, but for me it's not. Being able to join a game my friend is playing immediately from the dashboard is really nice, also leaving my game open for anyone is nice. Just having voice chat and the ability to see what my friends are playing isn't enough.
If it shared codes between every game it wouldn't be a problem at all.
This 100 times really, or god forbid, usernames...
In a lot of ways this just boils down to personal preference i guess.
The 360's feature list, even for silver members (which usually 8 or 9 months out of the year, i am.). I'm very happy with the structure they have set up.
My experience with the Nintendo WFC on both the Wii and the DS really just doesn't cut it for me.
That being said....
While I don't expect it, man, a 3d ds Zelda would be an awesome reveal. Or even a new metroid hunters title, which i had quite a bit of fun with.
The game played most online here on the DS is of course Pokemon. It takes all of three minutes for two people to trade friends codes and get online.
No, it's not as nice as just typing in a name, sending off a message, and auto registering, but then again, it takes about the same amount of time and is permanent, and you can set a nickname for them. You just need both people online at the same time, but since you are fighting or trading with them anyways...
if one person mistypes a friend code they can't connect. in fact, it's retarded that they both have to enter it.
I love the DS as much as the next guy but white-knighting for friend codes is just silly.
I'm going to say this here: I don't understand why the fuck they don't allow you to add nicknames to people on your friend's list on XBL. It would be private and no one else can see the name you chose for them. It seems like a simple thing to add and it would alleviate the 15 people on my friends list that I have NO idea who they are. This way I can get their PA forum tag and add it as their nickname.
Is there a place I can suggest something to Microsoft?
I have been wanting this for years now. For these exact reasons.
The game played most online here on the DS is of course Pokemon. It takes all of three minutes for two people to trade friends codes and get online.
No, it's not as nice as just typing in a name, sending off a message, and auto registering, but then again, it takes about the same amount of time and is permanent, and you can set a nickname for them. You just need both people online at the same time, but since you are fighting or trading with them anyways...
if one person mistypes a friend code they can't connect. in fact, it's retarded that they both have to enter it.
I love the DS as much as the next guy but white-knighting for friend codes is just silly.
And they'll know right away they made a mistake. I don't think people who can't handle correctly inputting 12 numbers should really be playing pokemon. That's only 2 numbers less then a phone number.
1+3 digit area code+3 digit exchange+4 digit subscriber number=ten digits.
Also most of the people playing the game online can handle entering 12 digits correctly once, as you kind of need to be able to read to really enjoy pokemon. It's not that simple people.
1+3 digit area code+3 digit exchange+4 digit subscriber number=ten digits.
Also most of the people playing the game online can handle entering 12 digits correctly once, as you kind of need to be able to read to really enjoy pokemon. It's not that simple people.
I don't think the complaint was really about making a mistake entering the code. It's just about the annoyances that the friend code system inherently has.
If I get someone's phone number and call them, they can save that instead of my having to receive and enter theirs. And since most people rely on cell phones nowadays they have one phone number. They don't have a different number for texting and calling; with the DS it's a different code per game, actually a different code per game and system pair. That's not even close to ideal.
1+3 digit area code+3 digit exchange+4 digit subscriber number=ten digits.
Also most of the people playing the game online can handle entering 12 digits correctly once, as you kind of need to be able to read to really enjoy pokemon. It's not that simple people.
1 + 3 + 3 + 4 = 11, not 10
You don't need to really remember the 1, it's always one!
DS friends codes are 12 Digits. I should know, I enter them pretty much constantly!
Yeah, the friend code system is ok, but I don't understand why anyone would prefer it over the alternatives. The way I see it, it's more hassle with less options. That this argument, if it can be called that, is even happening kind of surprises me.
I'm going to say this here: I don't understand why the fuck they don't allow you to add nicknames to people on your friend's list on XBL. It would be private and no one else can see the name you chose for them. It seems like a simple thing to add and it would alleviate the 15 people on my friends list that I have NO idea who they are. This way I can get their PA forum tag and add it as their nickname.
Is there a place I can suggest something to Microsoft?
I have been wanting this for years now. For these exact reasons.
Hell maybe even a little bio. I would love to have the ability to add "Random from RE5", and some quick notes.
Yeah, the friend code system is ok, but I don't understand why anyone would prefer it over the alternatives. The way I see it, it's more hassle with less options. That this argument, if it can be called that, is even happening kind of surprises me.
Ok, seriously, you'd have to be a pretty blind fanboy to defend friend codes. I love Nintendo as much as the next G&T forumer (which there are many), but that system is fucking stupid. I would tolerate it if it was just one, but you have to do it for each fucking game.
Hopefully by Page 22 the nerd raging has died down.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
Ok, seriously, you'd have to be a pretty blind fanboy to defend friend codes. I love Nintendo as much as the next G&T forumer (which there are many), but that system is fucking stupid. I would tolerate it if it was just one, but you have to do it for each fucking game.
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's fucking stupid, but I agree that you just HAVE to admit it's at least slightly more incovenient that entering gamertags because they're different for every game and digits aren't as easily memorized/entered as a name.
also at 360a people put their forum name in their bio, it shows up next to their name on Live
I can't because urahonky is supposedly offensive.
Heck your very presence is downright offensive. Would you let YOUR child trade friend codes with you?
Damn, I suppose your right Mr. Lee. But I shouldn't ruin it for people like me that want to have a friend code-less nation!
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I just checked out a 3D tv in Best Buy. The kind with the lcd shutter glasses. They were showing Monsters vs Aliens or some crap.
I certainly hope the 3D tech going on in the 3DS is better than what I saw at Best Buy, because it looked like a damn pop-up book with occasionally fuzzy images. The depth of field was unnatural too, there were many instances when I knew two objects were supposed to be many feet apart as inferred by scale of common objects, but appeared rather many inches apart, giving the feeling that everything was really tiny... and then suddenly really huge. It was all very out of whack. Taking the glasses off and watching the blurry 2D image was much more comfortable.
Remember the display units are never what you go by in a store like that. Normally they hook it up out of the box and that's that. They don't try to tweak it so it looks good they just set it up.
Hopefully by Page 22 the nerd raging has died down.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
I was going to get DSi XL but I might wait, now.
How can the 3D be a gimmick? There's no way the 3D can create a method of gameplay on it's own, like the touch screen did. It's there to enhance the experience, fundamentally no different than a simple graphical increase.
also at 360a people put their forum name in their bio, it shows up next to their name on Live
I can't because urahonky is supposedly offensive.
It's a racial slur. Yeah, it's one white people don't really give a shit about, but MS couldn't allow honky while banning others without opening themselves up to a lawsuit.
Hopefully by Page 22 the nerd raging has died down.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
I was going to get DSi XL but I might wait, now.
How can the 3D be a gimmick? There's no way the 3D can create a method of gameplay on it's own, like the touch screen did. It's there to enhance the experience, fundamentally no different than a simple graphical increase.
but it's not the kind of enhancement the hardcore can appreciate, it's what the expanded consumer (which consists of millions upon millions of people) wants!
I really hope the rumors of the device having GC levels of power turns out to be true. That way the hardcore gamer will be satisfied with the graphical upgrade and expanded audience will eat up the 3D (provided it's done well and doesn't induce seizures).
Nintendo has always been cautious of that. My understanding is that they have very specific rules as to things like how many flashes/colors per second can be displayed in a game in order to prevent seizure triggers.
Nintendo has always been cautious of that. My understanding is that they have very specific rules as to things like how many flashes/colors per second can be displayed in a game in order to prevent seizure triggers.
Japan in General has an entire series of laws about that. Nintendo being the cause of those laws is simply more strict than others.
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Hopefully by Page 22 the nerd raging has died down.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
I was going to get DSi XL but I might wait, now.
How can the 3D be a gimmick? There's no way the 3D can create a method of gameplay on it's own, like the touch screen did. It's there to enhance the experience, fundamentally no different than a simple graphical increase.
but it's not the kind of enhancement the hardcore can appreciate, it's what the expanded consumer (which consists of millions upon millions of people) wants!
I really hope the rumors of the device having GC levels of power turns out to be true. That way the hardcore gamer will be satisfied with the graphical upgrade and expanded audience will eat up the 3D (provided it's done well and doesn't induce seizures).
I don't know if it's been said, but the thing I want the most on the 3DS is a 3D-off switch. Pretty much all forms of 3D give me really bad headaches, and I don't see the 3DS breaking that trend
Hopefully by Page 22 the nerd raging has died down.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
I was going to get DSi XL but I might wait, now.
How can the 3D be a gimmick? There's no way the 3D can create a method of gameplay on it's own, like the touch screen did. It's there to enhance the experience, fundamentally no different than a simple graphical increase.
but it's not the kind of enhancement the hardcore can appreciate, it's what the expanded consumer (which consists of millions upon millions of people) wants!
Every time there's a thread about 3D TVs, discounting the fact of needing glasses, aside from like five people on this board it's always a dogpile on how 3D is a gimmick and a money grab, how no one actually wants 3D (again, putting aside the fact that you need the goofy glasses), and how there are so many people who have trouble seeing it or get headaches. Until the DS announcement, the consensus I got from this forum was that nearly everyone hated 3D with the heat of at thousand suns.
I *really* doubt people are going to get nauseous looking at this. If it's just an interesting mix of camera input and accelerometers, I can't imagine there will be anything in there for people to feel ill about -- unless holding a diorama up to your face makes you ill as well.
Obviously, I think the 3D is going to be not much more than a gimmick. On the other hand, I think handhelds are the *only* place we're going to see 3D gaming for a long time, so why not innovate in that direction?
Hopefully by Page 22 the nerd raging has died down.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
I was going to get DSi XL but I might wait, now.
How can the 3D be a gimmick? There's no way the 3D can create a method of gameplay on it's own, like the touch screen did. It's there to enhance the experience, fundamentally no different than a simple graphical increase.
but it's not the kind of enhancement the hardcore can appreciate, it's what the expanded consumer (which consists of millions upon millions of people) wants!
Every time there's a thread about 3D TVs, discounting the fact of needing glasses, aside from like five people on this board it's always a dogpile on how 3D is a gimmick and a money grab, how no one actually wants 3D (again, putting aside the fact that you need the goofy glasses), and how there are so many people who have trouble seeing it or get headaches. Until the DS announcement, the consensus I got from this forum was that nearly everyone hated 3D with the heat of at thousand suns.
i'd say much of that is due to animosity towards wearing goofy glasses.
but even so, 3D is huge. I hate the idea of it myself and I remain skeptical of nintendo's no-glasses solution, but 3D is definitely something people outside of the hardcore gaming community are going to go apeshit over.
It is going to be more than a decade before anyone considers making a home console that focuses on a 3D experience. The install base on those kinds of TVs (if it even works out to be popular) is going to be very small for a very long time.
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Eh. Having voice chat might be enough for some people, but for me it's not. Being able to join a game my friend is playing immediately from the dashboard is really nice, also leaving my game open for anyone is nice. Just having voice chat and the ability to see what my friends are playing isn't enough.
You can play online with randoms on WFC too.
i like animal crossing, but its not exactly the first game i run to when i think of nintendo.
This 100 times really, or god forbid, usernames...
In a lot of ways this just boils down to personal preference i guess.
The 360's feature list, even for silver members (which usually 8 or 9 months out of the year, i am.). I'm very happy with the structure they have set up.
My experience with the Nintendo WFC on both the Wii and the DS really just doesn't cut it for me.
That being said....
While I don't expect it, man, a 3d ds Zelda would be an awesome reveal. Or even a new metroid hunters title, which i had quite a bit of fun with.
if one person mistypes a friend code they can't connect. in fact, it's retarded that they both have to enter it.
I love the DS as much as the next guy but white-knighting for friend codes is just silly.
I have been wanting this for years now. For these exact reasons.
And they'll know right away they made a mistake. I don't think people who can't handle correctly inputting 12 numbers should really be playing pokemon. That's only 2 numbers less then a phone number.
think about what you are saying
Also most of the people playing the game online can handle entering 12 digits correctly once, as you kind of need to be able to read to really enjoy pokemon. It's not that simple people.
I was just curious where someone could live that would have a 14 digit phone number.
1 + 3 + 3 + 4 = 11, not 10
If I get someone's phone number and call them, they can save that instead of my having to receive and enter theirs. And since most people rely on cell phones nowadays they have one phone number. They don't have a different number for texting and calling; with the DS it's a different code per game, actually a different code per game and system pair. That's not even close to ideal.
You don't need to really remember the 1, it's always one!
DS friends codes are 12 Digits. I should know, I enter them pretty much constantly!
Hell maybe even a little bio. I would love to have the ability to add "Random from RE5", and some quick notes.
it's G&T, shouldn't surprise you anymore.
What's the consensus? Gimmick that will be outdated and under performing even before it launches? Or the foundation for a solid game platform that developers will hop on?
I was going to get DSi XL but I might wait, now.
I wouldn't go as far as saying it's fucking stupid, but I agree that you just HAVE to admit it's at least slightly more incovenient that entering gamertags because they're different for every game and digits aren't as easily memorized/entered as a name.
I can't because urahonky is supposedly offensive.
Heck your very presence is downright offensive. Would you let YOUR child trade friend codes with you?
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FF X replay
PS3
God of War 1&2 HD
Rachet and Clank Future
MGS 4
Prince of Persia
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Bayonetta
Fable 3
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FF: 4 heroes of light
Damn, I suppose your right Mr. Lee. But I shouldn't ruin it for people like me that want to have a friend code-less nation!
I certainly hope the 3D tech going on in the 3DS is better than what I saw at Best Buy, because it looked like a damn pop-up book with occasionally fuzzy images. The depth of field was unnatural too, there were many instances when I knew two objects were supposed to be many feet apart as inferred by scale of common objects, but appeared rather many inches apart, giving the feeling that everything was really tiny... and then suddenly really huge. It was all very out of whack. Taking the glasses off and watching the blurry 2D image was much more comfortable.
How can the 3D be a gimmick? There's no way the 3D can create a method of gameplay on it's own, like the touch screen did. It's there to enhance the experience, fundamentally no different than a simple graphical increase.
It's a racial slur. Yeah, it's one white people don't really give a shit about, but MS couldn't allow honky while banning others without opening themselves up to a lawsuit.
but it's not the kind of enhancement the hardcore can appreciate, it's what the expanded consumer (which consists of millions upon millions of people) wants!
I really hope the rumors of the device having GC levels of power turns out to be true. That way the hardcore gamer will be satisfied with the graphical upgrade and expanded audience will eat up the 3D (provided it's done well and doesn't induce seizures).
Nintendo has always been cautious of that. My understanding is that they have very specific rules as to things like how many flashes/colors per second can be displayed in a game in order to prevent seizure triggers.
Japan in General has an entire series of laws about that. Nintendo being the cause of those laws is simply more strict than others.
I don't know if it's been said, but the thing I want the most on the 3DS is a 3D-off switch. Pretty much all forms of 3D give me really bad headaches, and I don't see the 3DS breaking that trend
Every time there's a thread about 3D TVs, discounting the fact of needing glasses, aside from like five people on this board it's always a dogpile on how 3D is a gimmick and a money grab, how no one actually wants 3D (again, putting aside the fact that you need the goofy glasses), and how there are so many people who have trouble seeing it or get headaches. Until the DS announcement, the consensus I got from this forum was that nearly everyone hated 3D with the heat of at thousand suns.
Obviously, I think the 3D is going to be not much more than a gimmick. On the other hand, I think handhelds are the *only* place we're going to see 3D gaming for a long time, so why not innovate in that direction?
i'd say much of that is due to animosity towards wearing goofy glasses.
but even so, 3D is huge. I hate the idea of it myself and I remain skeptical of nintendo's no-glasses solution, but 3D is definitely something people outside of the hardcore gaming community are going to go apeshit over.
On handhelds?