Got an e-mail from my boss over at Amsterdam, he got the word straight from Nintendo that Samus is a playable character in DOA.
Kind of already figured that, but confirmation is confirmation.
Whoa whoa whoa, wait? Would Nintendo really allow this sort of thing? Wasn't Nintendo the one that tried to shut down Suicide Girls for having a Nintendo character or tatoo or something on one of the girls? I can't imagine them allowing Samus to get a DOA treatment..
It's not unprecedented for DOA, this is the series that previously had a Spartan in it. And Nintendo has had its characters in a few non-Nintendo games, including one of the snowboarding games.
I'm not saying I'm surprised the series is doing it, I'm surprised Nintendo is allowing it. If this were Soul Calibur or Street Fighter or something, no problem, but DOA has a 'reputation'.
When did you last look at Soul Calibur?
I guess they could have Samus be in armor at all times.
Yeah, back when Soul Calibur II came out, I had to make sure my parents weren't in the room for Taki or Ivy's super nipples. Woulda' been odd.
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Samus fits in just fine with the other DOA ladies.
Yes it does, and you can transfer DSiware purchases over too (perhaps not immediately at launch).
How do you do that if you trade in your DSi towards a 3DS, which is the whole point of transferring?
Also Kotaku says that it will not be an available feature till after launch. So if there is to be any point to this, It must be some kind of way of registering your current owned DSi software so that you can download it to your 3DS when you get one.
Nintendo always announces an update for their handhelds the very day after I purchase the older crappier model. It's like they're just waiting for me to crack.
Loving that price, but it seems like neither Zelda nor Resident Evil 4.5 (forgot the real name) will be out at launch, so I guess I'll wait until in can walk into a store and come out with one of those and a black 3DS until I get mine. Plus, they'll probably be impossible to find around launch anyway, so there's that.
Neat looking system though, I'm looking forward to getting one eventually.
The DS Lite was originally priced at £99 and €149. Now it's £229 and €249. That's more than twice as much in the UK.
The pound really tanked innit? It can't be the VAT increase alone. Now I see why Brits are so cross all over the Internet.
Yeah, as I see it this is mostly because of the pound, anyone could see this coming- I sure did and I'm not British. I've been buying pretty much every game from UK sites since stuff is so damn cheap with the exchange rate (not to mention they do insane deals) and I've been "in fear" that one day publishers would just start increasing their prices or else they'd keep getting fucked in the ass.
Fuck me. $348 and $389 are the prices set by the two major game retailers in Australia.
Fuck this shit. I'm not getting a 3DS until prices at the very fucking least reach parity with the US.
So... never?
Given that our price has to include GST, while the american tax is added on after, $275 would be the direct cost when the dollar is at parity. $300 would have been fair.
Heh. APZonerunner and I just spent an hour talking to one another without realising who each other was.
Love at first sight!
So, I take it you guys were at the event and fiddled around with the 3DSes. Did the d-pad feel awkward to use?
Imagine using the 360 pad. It's exactly the same, but without a right stick, and the left stick is actually the bastard son of a 360 stick and a PSP stick.
EDIT: The d-pad isn't a bad as the 360. It's standard good Nintendo d-pad.
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I want to love this system. Hell, I think I do love this system. But I'm not paying that much without at least a pack-in game or something.
Hey, I'm dying here too! Once I heard the $250 price, I kind of expected $350 for us. Compared to the markup we have on all other consoles and handhelds, that would actually be "generous".
But hey, by the time the 3DS comes out the entire fucking country will probably be under water anyway.
The DS Lite was originally priced at £99 and €149. Now it's £229 and €249. That's more than twice as much in the UK.
The pound really tanked innit? It can't be the VAT increase alone. Now I see why Brits are so cross all over the Internet.
Yeah, as I see it this is mostly because of the pound, anyone could see this coming- I sure did and I'm not British. I've been buying pretty much every game from UK sites since stuff is so damn cheap with the exchange rate (not to mention they do insane deals) and I've been "in fear" that one day publishers would just start increasing their prices or else they'd keep getting fucked in the ass.
Look - this isn't about exchange rates. If you convert $250 to pounds and add 20%, you get £190, not £230 - and that's with the pound weak. Nintendo still overcharged when the pound was far stronger, and the Wii should've cost £150 or so (instead of the £180 they were asking). It's not about what's the fairest price, it's what the market will bear - Europeans have always suffered higher prices for hardware in particular, and historically have happily paid an unwavering RRP for handhelds.
As for cheap software - DS titles in the UK have an RRP of £30 (the same as a PC game, although these are far more heavily discounted), and $30 in the US. It takes a 33% discount just to occupy the same part of the value spectrum as a US title - the usual result is that everything ends up selling for £10 below the 'recommended' price and everyone's happy. The reason for the heavy discounting in general is that 1) the UK is the second-largest games market in the world behind the US, and 2) so much of our distribution is online via offshore warehouses, which makes exporting to other EU countries incredibly easy and profitable.
I wouldn't be too concerned with rising prices in the medium-term - once you've milked the early adopters, the 3DS will have to reach a mass-market price for hardware and software or end up struggling next to its older sibling. The people buying brain training and pokemon aren't the people who are generally comfortable dropping a huge amounts of money on what is essentially a toy.
Who said anything about exchange rates? All I'm saying is UK people pay more relatively to the DS than mainland Europeans. One of the reasons being the devaluation of the pound. I've been browsing Eurogamer and they seem to be uniformly against buying a 3DS at that price. With all that in mind I think the 3DS will struggle to keep a foothold in the UK.
The DS Lite was originally priced at £99 and €149. Now it's £229 and €249. That's more than twice as much in the UK.
The pound really tanked innit? It can't be the VAT increase alone. Now I see why Brits are so cross all over the Internet.
Yeah, as I see it this is mostly because of the pound, anyone could see this coming- I sure did and I'm not British. I've been buying pretty much every game from UK sites since stuff is so damn cheap with the exchange rate (not to mention they do insane deals) and I've been "in fear" that one day publishers would just start increasing their prices or else they'd keep getting fucked in the ass.
Look - this isn't about exchange rates. If you convert $250 to pounds and add 20%, you get £190, not £230 - and that's with the pound weak. Nintendo still overcharged when the pound was far stronger, and the Wii should've cost £150 or so (instead of the £180 they were asking). It's not about what's the fairest price, it's what the market will bear - Europeans have always suffered higher prices for hardware in particular, and historically have happily paid an unwavering RRP for handhelds.
As for cheap software - DS titles in the UK have an RRP of £30 (the same as a PC game, although these are far more heavily discounted), and $30 in the US. It takes a 33% discount just to occupy the same part of the value spectrum as a US title - the usual result is that everything ends up selling for £10 below the 'recommended' price and everyone's happy. The reason for the heavy discounting in general is that 1) the UK is the second-largest games market in the world behind the US, and 2) so much of our distribution is online via offshore warehouses, which makes exporting to other EU countries incredibly easy and profitable.
I wouldn't be too concerned with rising prices in the medium-term - once you've milked the early adopters, the 3DS will have to reach a mass-market price for hardware and software or end up struggling next to its older sibling. The people buying brain training and pokemon aren't the people who are generally comfortable dropping a huge amounts of money on what is essentially a toy.
I don't disagree with you, it's just that with the exchange rates compared to the Euro now, UK games seems dirt cheap compared to the euro zone and while that didn't seem like a big disparity before, it does now. It just seems like it could be a problem to publishers considering the Euro and UK market are probably close (and I don't mean in a geographically way). It's just... stupid to buy most games here nowadays.
I never take in account currency when it comes to judging how companies price, I don't think there's ever been a case in recent videogame history where a company just converts the price from Yen or USD into Euros. Don't know how they do it with the pound though, isn't it usually kind of close to a conversion from Euros? Each market (US, Japan, Europe) is its own thing, I don't think prices can be compared simply by exchanging currency, it doesn't make much sense. I know I'm not being very eloquent or economics-savvy, but intuitively it's something that makes sense to me.
Also, Nintendo has been rocking this "price is up to retailers" thing for a while I remember talking to Nintendo's Portuguese PR about it about some mixup with the DSi XL I think. Probably because they were considered guilty of fixing prices in Europe.
EDIT: Also, yeah I guess I have some confusion going on with exchange rates and the devaluation of the pound. Sorry, I've been cramming calculus for ages now, my brain is fried :P
I imagine people importing from the UK over the years is an issue for NoE. They obviously can't region lock European countries seperately. £39 for a 3DS game is a significant markup when you compare it to DS game prices 6 years ago. No clue how 3DS games are priced in the rest of Europe, but if it stays at €39, then it means Brits are screwed big time. Not necessarily by Nintendo, just in general when it comes to export products, thanks to the depreciation of the pound.
Iwata: I do think it's something that we should pay attention to, but Nintendo is a video game company (laughs), so we tend to focus more on video games.
Although I can see the appeal of all in one devices there is something to be said for Nintendo's approach.
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I noticed on Tiny Cartridge that Crush is getting a 3D port. That's cool, because that's always one of those games I've wanted to play but never quite got around to doing so.
As far as importing from UK goes, a DS game usually costs €40, a Wii game €50 and PS3 and 360 €70 (although lately, especially with Nintendo consoles, some games have been launching cheaper). If I wait a while and it doesn't have to be that much, I can get a game from any console at less than 20€ and most times even starting at 10€. The most I remember paying lately for non-Nintendo games is like €18.
The only exception I make are Nintendo games I want at launch because they usually don't drop price significantly and since Nintendo came to Portugal the prices lowered a bit and the games come out one or two days before date.
Miyamoto: You can slip it in at night, and then when the owner wakes up in the morning and turns on the system, a new video is waiting.
Itoi: I think that concept was already there with the Wii console, but I feel like with a handheld, you can enjoy that more easily.
Iwata: I suppose so.
Miyamoto: By the way, we call that kind of delivery "Before You Know It Communication" ("Itsunomani Tsushin" in Japanese. Official English name is "SpotPass.") (laughs). So Nintendo 3DS has StreetPass, which is the name of the tag mode, and "SpotPass."
Ohhh, now it makes sense. SpotPass is WiiConnect24 as it was originally described.
I really hope they partner with movie studios to provide 3D trailers and such.
I wonder if there will be an issue with people being impressed by the effects on 3DS and then being disappointed with the muddier visuals in theaters?
Miyamoto: You can say that about game makers too. For example, when it came to Touch Generations, while it was a series different from previous games, the same development teams were making the software. But when it comes to, say, editing 3D videos(26) for Nintendo 3DS that we are planning to distribute using SpotPass, that's all being produced by teams outside of development.
26. 3D videos that we are planning to distribute using SpotPass: In Japan, Nippon Television Network Corporation and Fuji Television Network are each working in partnership with Nintendo to provide daily distribution of free 3D contents created by the networks to Nintendo 3DS using the SpotPass functionality. 3D video distribution plans have not been officially announced outside Japan as of this interview.
Another cool Nintendo feature to never see the light of day outside Japan?
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Miyamoto: You can slip it in at night, and then when the owner wakes up in the morning and turns on the system, a new video is waiting.
Itoi: I think that concept was already there with the Wii console, but I feel like with a handheld, you can enjoy that more easily.
Iwata: I suppose so.
Miyamoto: By the way, we call that kind of delivery "Before You Know It Communication" ("Itsunomani Tsushin" in Japanese. Official English name is "SpotPass.") (laughs). So Nintendo 3DS has StreetPass, which is the name of the tag mode, and "SpotPass."
Ohhh, now it makes sense. SpotPass is WiiConnect24 as it was originally described.
I really hope they partner with movie studios to provide 3D trailers and such.
I wonder if there will be an issue with people being impressed by the effects on 3DS and then being disappointed with the muddier visuals in theaters?
Let's just hope they'll use it well. I'd love if there was an option to subscribe to trailers and certain company/genre's demos and wake up and find a new demo or trailer in the 3DS.
1. This will be the third time I have rebought Rayman 2...I love it, and in 3D!
Third? THIRD? I bought it on the PC in 1999, Nintendo 64 in 2000, Dreamcast in 2001, Nintendo DS in 2005, and PSOne (PSP) in 2008.
This'll be my sixth time. Only versions I don't own is the PS2 version because I...don't own a PS2 and the iOS version because the controls are terrible.
What a fucking terrible TOTP
Edit: Though it will be nice to have a decent portable version finally.
Itoi: Right. You just have to convey that sensation that "It really works!"—rather than a scientific explanation about how two lines of sight align to create a 3D image. (clapping hands together) When you clap your hands together like this and ponder which hand made the sound, you do it because you enjoy the thought process and that mysterious feeling you get from it, not because you're looking for a scientific explanation.
This is exactly how I feel about clapping.
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2. If they give me Wall-E on the 3DS, I will die of happiness.
Problem here is that Pixar's 3D releases began in 2009 with Up, so unless they plan on going back and converting their back catalog someday you won't see Wall-E in 3D...
My 3D knowledge isn't exactly the greatest but isn't it a fairly minor thing to convert 3D (CGI I guess) stuff to 3D?
I don't think Nintendo is going to pursue movies too hard unfortunately. It feels like they are waiting for studios to approach them rather than pro-actively pursuing deals.
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1. This will be the third time I have rebought Rayman 2...I love it, and in 3D!
Third? THIRD? I bought it on the PC in 1999, Nintendo 64 in 2000, Dreamcast in 2001, Nintendo DS in 2005, and PSOne (PSP) in 2008.
This'll be my sixth time. Only versions I don't own is the PS2 version because I...don't own a PS2 and the iOS version because the controls are terrible.
What a fucking terrible TOTP
Edit: Though it will be nice to have a decent portable version finally.
Wait, it's Rayman 2?
What?
...
What?!
I figured it was just another "Rayman" game with stupid minigames as the main draw. A portable Rayman 2 is sex in cart form.
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Samus fits in just fine with the other DOA ladies.
Also Kotaku says that it will not be an available feature till after launch. So if there is to be any point to this, It must be some kind of way of registering your current owned DSi software so that you can download it to your 3DS when you get one.
I'm thinking of dubbing it Kirby's Law.
Neat looking system though, I'm looking forward to getting one eventually.
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Oh god I had to stop watching that halfway through, lest I end up pre-ordering the damn thing...
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So, I take it you guys were at the event and fiddled around with the 3DSes. Did the d-pad feel awkward to use?
Yeah, as I see it this is mostly because of the pound, anyone could see this coming- I sure did and I'm not British. I've been buying pretty much every game from UK sites since stuff is so damn cheap with the exchange rate (not to mention they do insane deals) and I've been "in fear" that one day publishers would just start increasing their prices or else they'd keep getting fucked in the ass.
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Fuck this shit. I'm not getting a 3DS until prices at the very fucking least reach parity with the US.
So... never?
Given that our price has to include GST, while the american tax is added on after, $275 would be the direct cost when the dollar is at parity. $300 would have been fair.
I want to love this system. Hell, I think I do love this system. But I'm not paying that much without at least a pack-in game or something.
Imagine using the 360 pad. It's exactly the same, but without a right stick, and the left stick is actually the bastard son of a 360 stick and a PSP stick.
EDIT: The d-pad isn't a bad as the 360. It's standard good Nintendo d-pad.
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Hey, I'm dying here too! Once I heard the $250 price, I kind of expected $350 for us. Compared to the markup we have on all other consoles and handhelds, that would actually be "generous".
But hey, by the time the 3DS comes out the entire fucking country will probably be under water anyway.
Look - this isn't about exchange rates. If you convert $250 to pounds and add 20%, you get £190, not £230 - and that's with the pound weak. Nintendo still overcharged when the pound was far stronger, and the Wii should've cost £150 or so (instead of the £180 they were asking). It's not about what's the fairest price, it's what the market will bear - Europeans have always suffered higher prices for hardware in particular, and historically have happily paid an unwavering RRP for handhelds.
As for cheap software - DS titles in the UK have an RRP of £30 (the same as a PC game, although these are far more heavily discounted), and $30 in the US. It takes a 33% discount just to occupy the same part of the value spectrum as a US title - the usual result is that everything ends up selling for £10 below the 'recommended' price and everyone's happy. The reason for the heavy discounting in general is that 1) the UK is the second-largest games market in the world behind the US, and 2) so much of our distribution is online via offshore warehouses, which makes exporting to other EU countries incredibly easy and profitable.
I wouldn't be too concerned with rising prices in the medium-term - once you've milked the early adopters, the 3DS will have to reach a mass-market price for hardware and software or end up struggling next to its older sibling. The people buying brain training and pokemon aren't the people who are generally comfortable dropping a huge amounts of money on what is essentially a toy.
I don't disagree with you, it's just that with the exchange rates compared to the Euro now, UK games seems dirt cheap compared to the euro zone and while that didn't seem like a big disparity before, it does now. It just seems like it could be a problem to publishers considering the Euro and UK market are probably close (and I don't mean in a geographically way). It's just... stupid to buy most games here nowadays.
I never take in account currency when it comes to judging how companies price, I don't think there's ever been a case in recent videogame history where a company just converts the price from Yen or USD into Euros. Don't know how they do it with the pound though, isn't it usually kind of close to a conversion from Euros? Each market (US, Japan, Europe) is its own thing, I don't think prices can be compared simply by exchanging currency, it doesn't make much sense. I know I'm not being very eloquent or economics-savvy, but intuitively it's something that makes sense to me.
Also, Nintendo has been rocking this "price is up to retailers" thing for a while I remember talking to Nintendo's Portuguese PR about it about some mixup with the DSi XL I think. Probably because they were considered guilty of fixing prices in Europe.
EDIT: Also, yeah I guess I have some confusion going on with exchange rates and the devaluation of the pound. Sorry, I've been cramming calculus for ages now, my brain is fried :P
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I especially like this quote:
Although I can see the appeal of all in one devices there is something to be said for Nintendo's approach.
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As far as importing from UK goes, a DS game usually costs €40, a Wii game €50 and PS3 and 360 €70 (although lately, especially with Nintendo consoles, some games have been launching cheaper). If I wait a while and it doesn't have to be that much, I can get a game from any console at less than 20€ and most times even starting at 10€. The most I remember paying lately for non-Nintendo games is like €18.
The only exception I make are Nintendo games I want at launch because they usually don't drop price significantly and since Nintendo came to Portugal the prices lowered a bit and the games come out one or two days before date.
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Ohhh, now it makes sense. SpotPass is WiiConnect24 as it was originally described.
I really hope they partner with movie studios to provide 3D trailers and such.
I wonder if there will be an issue with people being impressed by the effects on 3DS and then being disappointed with the muddier visuals in theaters?
1. This will be the third time I have rebought Rayman 2...I love it, and in 3D!
2. If they give me Wall-E on the 3DS, I will die of happiness.
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Another cool Nintendo feature to never see the light of day outside Japan?
Believe it.
Looks like it's getting close to new OP time!
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Third? THIRD? I bought it on the PC in 1999, Nintendo 64 in 2000, Dreamcast in 2001, Nintendo DS in 2005, and PSOne (PSP) in 2008.
This'll be my sixth time. Only versions I don't own is the PS2 version because I...don't own a PS2 and the iOS version because the controls are terrible.
Edit: Though it will be nice to have a decent portable version finally.
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This is exactly how I feel about clapping.
Problem here is that Pixar's 3D releases began in 2009 with Up, so unless they plan on going back and converting their back catalog someday you won't see Wall-E in 3D...
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I don't think Nintendo is going to pursue movies too hard unfortunately. It feels like they are waiting for studios to approach them rather than pro-actively pursuing deals.
Wait, it's Rayman 2?
What?
...
What?!
I figured it was just another "Rayman" game with stupid minigames as the main draw. A portable Rayman 2 is sex in cart form.