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Have I ruined my chances of passing?

PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
edited April 2010 in Help / Advice Forum
Well today I was chasing up one my lecturers about why I didn't receive marks for one of my assignments when everyone else did. He asked about how I seemed to be always stressing. I mentioned that I have a quite bad anxiety problem when I mentioned this I did get a little misty on the eyes. Not tears just a little watering after this he mentioned how he was asking cause someone students nag at the their lecturers (apparently me ringing about the assignment submission site being down once counts as nagging).

So I worry about me mentioning the anxiety problem as a form of manipulation against him?

edit: I was following him up so at the very least I would have he assignment marked down as submitted as all need to be handed in to pass the unit.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Um, no.

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    NibbleNibble Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    The professor cannot fail you or refuse to accept your assignments just because you mentioned that you have an anxiety disorder. That's your anxiety talking. In fact, most schools have provisions for students with emotional issues to get special exemptions, extensions, grade revisions, etc., providing that the student submit a doctor's note or other explanation to the appropriate office; and many professors are willing to do deal directly with the students on these issues.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Actually, if it is normal for you to worry this much over things you might want to talk with your GP some time soon.

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    RobmanRobman Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Well today I was chasing up one my lecturers about why I didn't receive marks for one of my assignments when everyone else did. He asked about how I seemed to be always stressing. I mentioned that I have a quite bad anxiety problem when I mentioned this I did get a little misty on the eyes. Not tears just a little watering after this he mentioned how he was asking cause someone students nag at the their lecturers (apparently me ringing about the assignment submission site being down once counts as nagging).

    So I worry about me mentioning the anxiety problem as a form of manipulation against him?

    edit: I was following him up so at the very least I would have he assignment marked down as submitted as all need to be handed in to pass the unit.

    Yep you've got anxiety issues. Your university should have a special department to deal with special needs students, don't feel any shame in talking to them because everyone should have a fair shot at completing their education.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I had been talking to a therapist, but I hadn't been going lately due to work being pretty hectic and the fact I have been going for a year and I feel it hasn't really done much to improve myself.

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    AldoAldo Hippo Hooray Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I had been talking to a therapist, but I hadn't been going lately due to work being pretty hectic and the fact I have been going for a year and I feel it hasn't really done much to improve myself.
    Oh, didn't catch that you were already talking with a therapist.

    I believe the thing with therapists is that if it isn't working even though you're giving it your best you should go and see another. A different approach, a fresh pair of eyes and a different personality might help you a lot.

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, you need therapy, I'm glad you are getting it. Telephoning a professor because the submission site is down is way OTT. I'm glad no-one did that when I knocked out the submission system when I was a sysadmin for a CS department.

    Also, you will not have been the first student who has been teary-eyed in front of him. Shit, I got three in my first ever term as a teaching assistant.

    Talk to your therapist about this.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Yeah, you need therapy, I'm glad you are getting it. Telephoning a professor because the submission site is down is way OTT. I'm glad no-one did that when I knocked out the submission system when I was a sysadmin for a CS department.

    Also, you will not have been the first student who has been teary-eyed in front of him. Shit, I got three in my first ever term as a teaching assistant.

    Talk to your therapist about this.
    When I rung him up it was really to find out what he would have liked us to do if the submission site wasn't up the following day.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Another thing keeping from the therapist even if it was just the cost adding up even if was just once every 2 weeks, and I'm not willing to really bother my parents about this, considering they get enough as it and according to my mum the reason I have anxiety is and I quote "Your like this, because your a weak failure".

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Another thing keeping from the therapist even if it was just the cost adding up even if was just once every 2 weeks, and I'm not willing to really bother my parents about this, considering they get enough as it and according to my mum the reason I have anxiety is and I quote "Your like this, because your a weak failure".

    You're attending university, right?

    They should have counsellors you can see right on campus. For free.

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    When I rung him up it was really to find out what he would have liked us to do if the submission site wasn't up the following day.

    Really, not worth it. This is the sort of communication email was for. Or going to speak to him in person.

    What exactly did you think was going to happen if the submission site wasn't up? That you would be penalized for the university's failing? You're showing a lack of understanding of reasonable results, even now (when I presume you are not anxious about it).

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Are you sleeping well? Were you diagnosed with clinical depression? Do you have a perscription given that you're supposed to be taking / are you taking it?

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Paladin wrote: »
    Are you sleeping well? Were you diagnosed with clinical depression? Do you have a prescription given that you're supposed to be taking / are you taking it?
    I have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety though my therapist was reluctant to turn to pills to help fix the problem. As for the sleeping query no i haven't been sleeping that fantastically for a long time.

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    Cyd CycloneCyd Cyclone Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Paladin wrote: »
    Are you sleeping well? Were you diagnosed with clinical depression? Do you have a prescription given that you're supposed to be taking / are you taking it?
    I have been diagnosed with depression and anxiety though my therapist was reluctant to turn to pills to help fix the problem. As for the sleeping query no i haven't been sleeping that fantastically for a long time.

    As someone with Bipolar II, Anxiety, and OCD, turning to pills was one of the best things I ever did. They won't solve all your problems, but they can help you get through the day, and sleep a lot better at night.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I did try St Johns Wort forawhile but that really didn't seem to help and if anything made me feel a bit unwell.

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    Cyd CycloneCyd Cyclone Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I did try St Johns Wort forawhile but that really didn't seem to help and if anything made me feel a bit unwell.

    Get a referral to a psychiatrist from your GP or therapist. Seriously. It's their job to help people with this kind of thing.

    Think of it this way: if you broke your arm, you'd want some painkillers, right? Well, your brain isn't doing well. Get some help for it.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    I did try St Johns Wort forawhile but that really didn't seem to help and if anything made me feel a bit unwell.

    Did you take it at midnight under the new moon while bathing in water from the stump of a tree?

    Seriously, your issues have passed beyond the realm of normalcy and medication is a perfectly viable option for coping with those issues. Also, most professors HATE grade grubbers and needy students, and you should be working to build a relationship with your profs, not destroy them.

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    VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Another thing keeping from the therapist even if it was just the cost adding up even if was just once every 2 weeks, and I'm not willing to really bother my parents about this, considering they get enough as it and according to my mum the reason I have anxiety is and I quote "Your like this, because your a weak failure".

    You're attending university, right?

    They should have counsellors you can see right on campus. For free.

    Most schools have this available and I definitely agree with utilizing this resource.

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    CristoCristo Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Well today I was chasing up one my lecturers about why I didn't receive marks for one of my assignments when everyone else did. He asked about how I seemed to be always stressing. I mentioned that I have a quite bad anxiety problem when I mentioned this I did get a little misty on the eyes. Not tears just a little watering after this he mentioned how he was asking cause someone students nag at the their lecturers (apparently me ringing about the assignment submission site being down once counts as nagging).

    So I worry about me mentioning the anxiety problem as a form of manipulation against him?

    edit: I was following him up so at the very least I would have he assignment marked down as submitted as all need to be handed in to pass the unit.

    You're doing it again.

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    What? No.

    You can't get failed because your lecturer doesn't like you. Collage doesn't work like that. They usually have two different people marking assignments for this exact reason so even if he did fancy being unprofessional enough to get himself sacked the other person marking your assignment would ask why he marked you so poorly.

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    .Tripwire..Tripwire. Firman Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    From my experience a school can be entirely unreceptive to anxiety and depression related disability claims unless they are officially registered early on. Either of these issues, particularly untreated, can easily interfere with your studies. The earlier you register with whatever disability services exist on campus the better chance you'll be able to get extensions later if your disorders jepoardize your completion.

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Casual wrote: »
    What? No.

    You can't get failed because your lecturer doesn't like you. Collage doesn't work like that. They usually have two different people marking assignments for this exact reason so even if he did fancy being unprofessional enough to get himself sacked the other person marking your assignment would ask why he marked you so poorly.

    I dunno which university you go to, but every one I have been to/worked at, assignments were marked by the lecturer and/or his assistants. It's actually really easy to change someone's grade just because you don't like them.

    That said, you have to work hard for the lecturer to remember your face and your name and have pissed them off enough for it to be a problem.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Sentry wrote: »
    I did try St Johns Wort forawhile but that really didn't seem to help and if anything made me feel a bit unwell.

    Did you take it at midnight under the new moon while bathing in water from the stump of a tree?

    Seriously, your issues have passed beyond the realm of normalcy and medication is a perfectly viable option for coping with those issues. Also, most professors HATE grade grubbers and needy students, and you should be working to build a relationship with your profs, not destroy them.

    Alright mate first thing I wasn't grade grubbing or whatever you want to call it, all I was doing was following up a problem that had occurred, which considering I had submitted the assignment in to the correct account, listed on the site and had a copy of the receipt on my hard drive saying yeah assignment has been dropped off at so and so time , it is so and so size of the 10mb upload limit. In short I know I dropped it off.

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Then what was the problem?

    You need to:
    a) Chill the fuck out
    b) Realize that the people here are telling you the truth, you are the one with the warped sense of perspective

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    What? No.

    You can't get failed because your lecturer doesn't like you. Collage doesn't work like that. They usually have two different people marking assignments for this exact reason so even if he did fancy being unprofessional enough to get himself sacked the other person marking your assignment would ask why he marked you so poorly.

    I dunno which university you go to, but every one I have been to/worked at, assignments were marked by the lecturer and/or his assistants. It's actually really easy to change someone's grade just because you don't like them.

    That said, you have to work hard for the lecturer to remember your face and your name and have pissed them off enough for it to be a problem.

    At mine it was marked by two different lecturers. And even if you were in a university that corrupt you could file a complaint that you're being marked unfairly and have your paper marked by someone else. If it came up that he had marked you significantly lower than you should have been questions would be asked of his professionalism.

    Bottom line it wouldn't be worth a lecturer risking his career just to give a student he doesn't like a crappy grade.

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    SentrySentry Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Casual wrote: »
    Lewisham wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    What? No.

    You can't get failed because your lecturer doesn't like you. Collage doesn't work like that. They usually have two different people marking assignments for this exact reason so even if he did fancy being unprofessional enough to get himself sacked the other person marking your assignment would ask why he marked you so poorly.

    I dunno which university you go to, but every one I have been to/worked at, assignments were marked by the lecturer and/or his assistants. It's actually really easy to change someone's grade just because you don't like them.

    That said, you have to work hard for the lecturer to remember your face and your name and have pissed them off enough for it to be a problem.

    At mine it was marked by two different lecturers. And even if you were in a university that corrupt you could file a complaint that you're being marked unfairly and have your paper marked by someone else. If it came up that he had marked you significantly lower than you should have been questions would be asked of his professionalism.

    Bottom line it wouldn't be worth a lecturer risking his career just to give a student he doesn't like a crappy grade.

    I don't understand where you went to school. Do you even know how hard it is to fire a professor? Even one without Tenure? Trust me, he's not risking anything by harshly grading a students work.

    Not that I think this will happen, but your college experience is NOT how education is typically done in the U.S.

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    .Tripwire..Tripwire. Firman Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    It is interesting to clarify that his location places him in the UK, and the original author of the thread is in Australia.

    But I would assume what's been said about disability and counselling is a school service/consideration common in each of these nations.

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    admanbadmanb unionize your workplace Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited March 2010
    .Tripwire. wrote: »
    It is interesting to clarify that his location places him in the UK, and the original author of the thread is in Australia.

    But I would assume what's been said about disability and counselling is a school service/consideration common in each of these nations.

    And Sentry's claims about tenure apply almost exclusively to the US and Canada.

    But yay for cultural assumptions!

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    admanb wrote: »
    .Tripwire. wrote: »
    It is interesting to clarify that his location places him in the UK, and the original author of the thread is in Australia.

    But I would assume what's been said about disability and counselling is a school service/consideration common in each of these nations.

    And Sentry's claims about tenure apply almost exclusively to the US and Canada.

    But yay for cultural assumptions!

    Good thing I'm English and got my undergraduate at a British university and worked in the NZ system and now I do a PhD in the American system then!

    British universities take examinations very seriously (anonomization, marking by two lecturers, etc). NZ/US did not do anything like that, and NZ system is similar to Aus. Even in the UK, coursework is marked by one lecturer, so it's very easy to take marks away here and there. Basically, only the most corrupt professor that's looking to lose his/her job would try and change your grade because he/she doesn't like you, but the more you piss them off, the less likely they are to give you the benefit of the doubt come marking time.

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    AvicusAvicus Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Going to university in Australia what Casual is saying is spot on. Here major assignments and exams are marked by two people normally your tutor and your lecturer for the subject. Sometimes if they are lazy they will only get one to mark them. If you aren't happy with your grade, you just tell student services and they will organise for it to be remarked by an anonymous 3rd party or two. You have to take the new grade even if it is worse than the first. If a professor has been screwing with your marks, he will get in deep shit. You know how universities' hate plagiarism? This is the professor's equivalent. He will most likely have to face a inquiry by the university and if it turns out against him, he will most likely be fired (and never get another university position again).

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    Avicus wrote: »
    Going to university in Australia what Casual is saying is spot on. Here major assignments and exams are marked by two people normally your tutor and your lecturer for the subject. Sometimes if they are lazy they will only get one to mark them. If you aren't happy with your grade, you just tell student services and they will organise for it to be remarked by an anonymous 3rd party or two. You have to take the new grade even if it is worse than the first. If a professor has been screwing with your marks, he will get in deep shit. You know how universities' hate plagiarism? This is the professor's equivalent. He will most likely have to face a inquiry by the university and if it turns out against him, he will most likely be fired (and never get another university position again).

    This is our system too. There are plenty of measures in place to make sure you get the grade you deserve. If that is the system in Australia it would seem he's safe.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Update from the lecturer is that he still hasn't decided what he'll do in regards to my assignment , also next two weeks don't have classes so that's a pain.

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Update from the lecturer is that still hasn't decided what he'll do in regards to my assignment , also next two weeks don't have classes so that's a pain.

    I don't understand. Is he saying you never submitted it? If it's there, it's there. Otherwise email him the copy of "the receipt". What's the issue?

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Update from the lecturer is that still hasn't decided what he'll do in regards to my assignment , also next two weeks don't have classes so that's a pain.

    I don't understand. Is he saying you never submitted it? If it's there, it's there. Otherwise email him the copy of "the receipt". What's the issue?

    Sorry I'm having a bit of trouble concentrating at the moment didn't sleep at all last night. Basically he was saying that he has got a copy of the piece of work. But he then goes on to mention he hasn't decided what he's going to about the submission whether he's going to give me an actual mark or just mark it down as handed in if he does that. Apparently he forgot completely about it during the course of the week.

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Esh wrote: »
    Update from the lecturer is that still hasn't decided what he'll do in regards to my assignment , also next two weeks don't have classes so that's a pain.

    I don't understand. Is he saying you never submitted it? If it's there, it's there. Otherwise email him the copy of "the receipt". What's the issue?

    Sorry I'm having a bit of trouble concentrating at the moment didn't sleep at all last night. Basically he was saying that he has got a copy of the piece of work. But he then goes on to mention he hasn't decided what he's going to about the submission whether he's going to give me an actual mark or just mark it down as handed in if he does that. Apparently he forgot completely about it during the course of the week.


    This makes absolutely no sense. He has it. He got it on time (correct?). But he's "not sure" what he wants to do with it? Why would he not grade it?

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    LewishamLewisham Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I get the impression OP is having trouble communicating effectively to us, and the reality of the situation is far removed from what could be read.

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    AvicusAvicus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Is this a proper assignment or just a tutorial or insignificant paper that you submitted. If its the second, he most likely didn't recieve it properly or something, forgot about it and will jsut give you a pass since it doesn't matter. If its the first, well I don't know whats going on.

    You aren't making sense. If you submitted an assignment and everyone except you has recieved their results for it and he says he is tryign to decide whether to mark it, something is wrong.

    I think you just need to forget about it for now. He has the assignment. You submitted it and have proof of this. The mark will arrive eventually. You are just stressing out over nothing. Ignore it. Its not like you need to know the mark right now or you will fail.

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    PixelMonkeyPixelMonkey Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I followed those details on the assignment brief but it was due the lecturer decides decides to change the submission time by a few hours, majority of class hand in the assignment just by fluke. I hand it in before it before the old due time but only late ten minutes on the new time. lecturer is honestly surprised about what has happened despite never mentioning the slight change.

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    AwkAwk Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    How come you werent notified of the change? Were you absent? Was it never mentioned during lectures? Go to your academic advisor, she's your friend.

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    EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Awk wrote: »
    How come you werent notified of the change? Were you absent? Was it never mentioned during lectures? Go to your academic advisor, she's your friend.

    I think the OP has issues of some sort. No professor would ever say "Oh, and the assignment is due RIGHT NOW." or something along those lines.

    I have a feeling the prof did mention it but someone wasn't paying attention.

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