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[Final Fantasy] Neochu, I Choose You!

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Rust wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Give it time, their outfits will change when marketing gets to them.

    i dunno, those clothes seem almost like a new gimmick in itself

    like, "Final Fantasy Versus: You Could Actually Buy These Outfits At a Store, Holy Shit"

    To be fair, that was true about at least half the cast of FFVII. More if you include the antagonists.

    just one more point in VII's favor

    though a lot of them also had accessories that you could probably only obtain by getting really enthusiastic with a sledgehammer in a scrap yard

    Rust on
  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    How did this whole XIII and vs XIII fiasco come about anyways? Two project leads had different visions for XIII and couldn't agree?

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  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Nope, Square just took note of the fact that games with an actual number attached tend to sell much better than those that don't. So give all the games some vague similarities, throw the same number on them, and profit.

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Zerokku wrote: »
    Nope, Square just took note of the fact that games with an actual number attached tend to sell much better than those that don't. So give all the games some vague similarities, throw the same number on them, and profit.

    And by vague similarities, they mean there are crystals somewhere in the game.

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  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Rust wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Rust wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Give it time, their outfits will change when marketing gets to them.

    i dunno, those clothes seem almost like a new gimmick in itself

    like, "Final Fantasy Versus: You Could Actually Buy These Outfits At a Store, Holy Shit"

    To be fair, that was true about at least half the cast of FFVII. More if you include the antagonists.

    just one more point in VII's favor

    though a lot of them also had accessories that you could probably only obtain by getting really enthusiastic with a sledgehammer in a scrap yard

    To be fair, a large majority of the world's population lives in Midgar, and of that, almost all of them either live or have a short free train ride's access to the Undercity, which is basically...a giant scrap yard.

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  • RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Rust wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote: »
    Rust wrote: »
    Sipex wrote: »
    Give it time, their outfits will change when marketing gets to them.

    i dunno, those clothes seem almost like a new gimmick in itself

    like, "Final Fantasy Versus: You Could Actually Buy These Outfits At a Store, Holy Shit"

    To be fair, that was true about at least half the cast of FFVII. More if you include the antagonists.

    just one more point in VII's favor

    though a lot of them also had accessories that you could probably only obtain by getting really enthusiastic with a sledgehammer in a scrap yard

    To be fair, a large majority of the world's population lives in Midgar, and of that, almost all of them either live or have a short free train ride's access to the Undercity, which is basically...a giant scrap yard.

    exactly! i made the same point in another thread

    i would say that i miss when outfits actually had logical connections to the world around them, so you didn't have professional soldiers strutting around in a miniskirt and bike shorts, but i don't even know if that was ever a thing

    Rust on
  • ZerokkuZerokku Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oh god. The GAF thread about the Versus XIII 360 possibility is downright gold.

    And one of the mods is trolling absolutely everyone. Its glorious.

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Have you collected enough fanboy tears for the elixir of eternal life yet?

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  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    is there a spot where you can make money to buy all this stuff? I think I'm on chapter 9 and I have made crap for gil so I can't imagine buying all these sturdy bones and such.

    If you're on chapter 9, you're at the best gil farming spot until you get far into chapter 11. You want to just keep making passes through the External Bearths near the beginning of the airship farming the jetpack soldiers for credit chips and incentive chips.

    You don't really need too much gil to last you until chapter 11 though, I think I only farmed like 50k.

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Proudclad is the first time I've had a problem with this game. Should I start grinding again or is it just meant to be a hard fight?

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I've heard it's normal, just change up your strategy.

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    joshgotro wrote: »
    Proudclad is the first time I've had a problem with this game. Should I start grinding again or is it just meant to be a hard fight?

    Definitely normal. If you don't do a lot of the missions in Chapter 11, then Chapter 12 can hit you pretty hard.

    But if you made it past the Behemoths to Proudclad, I'm sure you can beat it.

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I did. It just took forever.

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    does it?
  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    joshgotro wrote: »
    I did. It just took forever.

    Ahh, ok.

    For what it's worth ProudClad took me forever and then I got the trophy for 5-starring the final boss without doing any grinding. So you're good.

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  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    We'll see when Xenoblade and the Last Story are released.

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  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    We'll see when Xenoblade and the Last Story are released.

    I'm going to take The Last Story very lightly considering it's on the Wii.

    Honestly, anytime I play ANY Square game, I feel like this they've lost that loving feeling.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTbASqoqH3Q

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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Morvidus wrote: »
    We'll see when Xenoblade and the Last Story are released.

    I'm going to take The Last Story very lightly considering it's on the Wii.

    Honestly, anytime I play ANY Square game, I feel like this they've lost that loving feeling.

    Actually, both games are coming to the Wii.

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  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Morvidus wrote: »
    We'll see when Xenoblade and the Last Story are released.

    I'm going to take The Last Story very lightly considering it's on the Wii.

    Honestly, anytime I play ANY Square game, I feel like this they've lost that loving feeling.

    Actually, both games are coming to the Wii.

    That's kinda disappointing, as the only good RPGs I've played on the Wii are WiiWare or VC, like Mario RPG or Final Fantasy After Years.

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  • ArkadyArkady Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    Maybe if mistwalker wasn't hellbent on releasing crap I would agree with this.

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  • DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I have no idea what Last Story is about or what the gameplay is like.

    Still, their untranslated website reminds me of Secret of Mana and Vagrant Story, and that really makes me want to play it.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    I dunno, all Mistwalker has done so far is make strange chimeras out of previous stuff the developers have worked on.

    BD was just DQ by way of FF5, and Lost Odyssey was pretty much an FF game without the FF tropes.

    Both were good games though, and I hope to see more out of Mistwalker in the future that takes more chances.

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  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Arkady wrote: »
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    Maybe if mistwalker wasn't hellbent on releasing crap I would agree with this.

    Blue Dragon is one of the few times an RPG being easy has pissed me off. I had trouble with the first two bosses, and I mean that as a good thing. I actually had to USE some of those ten thousand goddamn items you pick up. Then I got Marumaro(?) and the addition of a fourth character, and a skilled Monk at that, is just insane. I haven't switched his class once, and it just keeps getting better and better. Normal encounters are a fucking joke- he can wipe them all out with one attack. Bosses are dead before I'm done casting buffs.

    It's really kind of boring, and disappointing too, because all the cool sounding skills are entirely unnecessary.

    Jurg on
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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Jurg wrote: »
    Arkady wrote: »
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    Maybe if mistwalker wasn't hellbent on releasing crap I would agree with this.

    Blue Dragon is one of the few times an RPG being easy has pissed me off. I had trouble with the first two bosses, and I mean that as a good thing. I actually had to USE some of those ten thousand goddamn items you pick up. Then I got Marumaro(?) and the addition of a fourth character, and a skilled Monk at that, is just insane. I haven't switched his class once, and it just keeps getting better and better. Normal encounters are a fucking joke- he can wipe them all out with one attack. Bosses are dead before I'm done casting buffs.

    It's really kind of boring, and disappointing too, because all the cool sounding skills are entirely unnecessary.
    This is why the free Hard Mode is basically mandatory. It basically ups the difficulty to what it should have been to begin with.

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  • SipexSipex Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    That sounds pretty good actually. I know my wife likes RPGs but she's got no patience so when things get too hard she balks.

    This way we'd have an RPG which could be hard enough for me but easy enough for her as well.

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  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Jurg wrote: »
    Arkady wrote: »
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    Maybe if mistwalker wasn't hellbent on releasing crap I would agree with this.

    Blue Dragon is one of the few times an RPG being easy has pissed me off. I had trouble with the first two bosses, and I mean that as a good thing. I actually had to USE some of those ten thousand goddamn items you pick up. Then I got Marumaro(?) and the addition of a fourth character, and a skilled Monk at that, is just insane. I haven't switched his class once, and it just keeps getting better and better. Normal encounters are a fucking joke- he can wipe them all out with one attack. Bosses are dead before I'm done casting buffs.

    It's really kind of boring, and disappointing too, because all the cool sounding skills are entirely unnecessary.
    This is why the free Hard Mode is basically mandatory. It basically ups the difficulty to what it should have been to begin with.

    Can you apply this in the middle of a save file?

    Jurg on
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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So, is it me, or is it easier to Death-spam Adamantortoises than Adamantoises? (That is, Death seems to work more reliably on one than the other.)

    Also, I'm on Chapter 11, after beating the boss so my Crystarium is at stage 9. Is turtlemurder the best way to earn gil for me at this point?

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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Jurg wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Jurg wrote: »
    Arkady wrote: »
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    Maybe if mistwalker wasn't hellbent on releasing crap I would agree with this.

    Blue Dragon is one of the few times an RPG being easy has pissed me off. I had trouble with the first two bosses, and I mean that as a good thing. I actually had to USE some of those ten thousand goddamn items you pick up. Then I got Marumaro(?) and the addition of a fourth character, and a skilled Monk at that, is just insane. I haven't switched his class once, and it just keeps getting better and better. Normal encounters are a fucking joke- he can wipe them all out with one attack. Bosses are dead before I'm done casting buffs.

    It's really kind of boring, and disappointing too, because all the cool sounding skills are entirely unnecessary.
    This is why the free Hard Mode is basically mandatory. It basically ups the difficulty to what it should have been to begin with.

    Can you apply this in the middle of a save file?

    No :( I had to restart about 15 hours in to make playing the rest of the game tolerable.

    It's also the game that broke me of my need to get achievements, since they're completely bullshit.

    gjaustin on
  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    gjaustin wrote: »
    Jurg wrote: »
    Blackjack wrote: »
    Jurg wrote: »
    Arkady wrote: »
    Morvidus wrote: »
    I think all of Square's Final Fantasy mojo has moved on to Mistwalker now.

    Maybe if mistwalker wasn't hellbent on releasing crap I would agree with this.

    Blue Dragon is one of the few times an RPG being easy has pissed me off. I had trouble with the first two bosses, and I mean that as a good thing. I actually had to USE some of those ten thousand goddamn items you pick up. Then I got Marumaro(?) and the addition of a fourth character, and a skilled Monk at that, is just insane. I haven't switched his class once, and it just keeps getting better and better. Normal encounters are a fucking joke- he can wipe them all out with one attack. Bosses are dead before I'm done casting buffs.

    It's really kind of boring, and disappointing too, because all the cool sounding skills are entirely unnecessary.
    This is why the free Hard Mode is basically mandatory. It basically ups the difficulty to what it should have been to begin with.

    Can you apply this in the middle of a save file?

    No :( I had to restart about 15 hours in to make playing the rest of the game tolerable.

    It's also the game that broke me of my need to get achievements, since they're completely bullshit.

    I don't know if I want to throw out however many hours for "tolerable". I could just not care about the game. It's a shame too, since there was a lot of potential.

    Jurg on
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  • gjaustingjaustin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You're not missing that much.

    The combat system is great (on Hard), but the story is worse than pretty much any FF game, except maybe 3.

    gjaustin on
  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So, is it me, or is it easier to Death-spam Adamantortoises than Adamantoises? (That is, Death seems to work more reliably on one than the other.)

    Also, I'm on Chapter 11, after beating the boss so my Crystarium is at stage 9. Is turtlemurder the best way to earn gil for me at this point?

    turtlemurder is the best way to earn gil in the entire game, period

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  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    gjaustin wrote: »
    You're not missing that much.

    The combat system is great (on Hard), but the story is worse than pretty much any FF game, except maybe 3.

    Maybe in the future. I have like 100 other games I'd rather play first.

    Jurg on
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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Proudclad part two. WTF.

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  • BlitzAce1981BlitzAce1981 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just this second beat Long Gui. Just Treasure Hunter to go now.

    And boy am I thankful I made a backup save, what with my launch PS3 dying earlier this week. Lost about 30 minutes of play, which got me all of 20k Gil. In other words, not enough for anything of any importance.

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm stuck grinding in the area where you fight
    Proudclad
    the second time. None of the enemies respawn so I have to engage said baddie and then retry out of the fight to get the monsters to respawn. I've got one of the Lvl. 4 roles for each character to max out still and I thought I'd find a better grind spot before I completely fuuuuuu myself.

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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    joshgotro wrote: »
    I'm stuck grinding in the area where you fight
    Proudclad
    the second time. None of the enemies respawn so I have to engage said baddie and then retry out of the fight to get the monsters to respawn. I've got one of the Lvl. 4 roles for each character to max out still and I thought I'd find a better grind spot before I completely fuuuuuu myself.
    Are you unable to beat Proudclad or something? If you just beat him there will be two excellent grinding options

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  • KatoKato Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ok. I posted about this the other day and I need to vent something....(major spoiler alert)
    WTF?!?! So...you beat the game in order to unlock the final level of crystarium and stuff (which is just utterly stupid to me...) and in the end sequence, Fang and Vanille turn in to crystal to hold up Cocoon. And then...you reload your save and they are all back and just fine and I assume you can go beat Orphan again? And the ending was just so lackluster and confusing after everything we did. Is this really how it is supposed to go? Couldn't they have made an ending that made better sense or at the least...didn't turn two of your chars in to legends (weren't they already legends before?) and then miraculously they are back to life to play more and try to max things out? gggrrrrrr.......

    SO....
    DAMNED....
    ANNOYING!!!!

    Yeah...wtf??

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  • The Dude With HerpesThe Dude With Herpes Lehi, UTRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Well, to be fair, it's not like when you beat the game and start a post-game save you are still post-game in the games timeline.

    You're still technically in chapter 13 before the final boss so in that regard it doesn't effect the ending.

    So your concerns aren't really necessary.

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  • MorvidusMorvidus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Well, to be fair, it's not like when you beat the game and start a post-game save you are still post-game in the games timeline.

    You're still technically in chapter 13 before the final boss so in that regard it doesn't effect the ending.

    So your concerns aren't really necessary.

    His concern about the story is very necessary, because it was terribad.

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  • Vincent GraysonVincent Grayson Frederick, MDRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Well, to be fair, it's not like when you beat the game and start a post-game save you are still post-game in the games timeline.

    You're still technically in chapter 13 before the final boss so in that regard it doesn't effect the ending.

    So your concerns aren't really necessary.

    Yeah, in fact, that's pretty common in games that let you do a post-game save.

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