I expected Simon and Nick to be in the film at some point.
I expected them to be the vegan police
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edited August 2010
After seeing Hot Fuzz and then hearing about this movie a while back, I immediately thought Simon Pegg would be perfect as Scott and Wallace's landlord.
Reading the books today to get ready for the movie. Just started the 3rd book and am wondering (though I won't read until I'm finished) if someone who has seen the movie could mention any major stuff that doesn't make it into the film version.
Also, is there somewhere to see this animation tie-in? I saw the teaser for it, but I want to see the whole thing.
the more I think about this movie, the more I feel it had all the pizazz and fun of the comics but none of the substance. it was really fun and I think I'm going to go see it again in the next week, but it had zero depth and nuance. Some of the best moments in the comics were the quiet, contemplative panels where the characters are allowed to breathe. The movie is a fun adventure, but I kind of want to consider it as a companion to the books rather than treating it completely on its own merits.
oh, and i'll say it again, Michael Cera was a horrible sucky sucktastic choice for scott. Nothing about him was as awesome as it should have been.
As for the exes, Chris Evans was a surprising stand out. I think I liked his character's persona the best.
I really enjoyed watching the movie. But, even having only read half of the comics, the movie felt like it was lacking many of the subplots and resulting characterizations that made the comics so strong. I try to avoid comparing adaptations to the original because I want to evaluate them on their own strengths and weaknesses.
For instance, aside from the subplot argument, one of my bigger complaints is that Michael Cera never quite embodies the super happy clueless 'awesome' Scott of the comic. I think overall he does a good job but he never quite gets to where I thought he would. But, is this just an adaptation difference? It doesn't necessarily harm the movie. But I still have this little niggle in me that misses it.
For now, I will say I enjoyed the movie. I definitely enjoyed the movie. It was energetic and kinetic and funny and visually exciting. (Perhaps this disparity between the movie's flawlessly-executed visual style and Michael Cera's subdued acting is what causes my niggle?) I compare watching this movie to attending a rock concert. Its loud and flashy and extreme. I liked it. I just liked the comics more.
I really enjoyed watching the movie. But, even having only read half of the comics, the movie felt like it was lacking many of the subplots and resulting characterizations that made the comics so strong. I try to avoid comparing adaptations to the original because I want to evaluate them on their own strengths and weaknesses.
For instance, aside from the subplot argument, one of my bigger complaints is that Michael Cera never quite embodies the super happy clueless 'awesome' Scott of the comic. I think overall he does a good job but he never quite gets to where I thought he would. But, is this just an adaptation difference? It doesn't necessarily harm the movie. But I still have this little niggle in me that misses it.
For now, I will say I enjoyed the movie. I definitely enjoyed the movie. It was energetic and kinetic and funny and visually exciting. (Perhaps this disparity between the movie's flawlessly-executed visual style and Michael Cera's subdued acting is what causes my niggle?) I compare watching this movie to attending a rock concert. Its loud and flashy and extreme. I liked it. I just liked the comics more.
I suspect that a lot of the magic of the books cannot be captured via live-action. It seems like it would be perfect for an animated film, because it's easier to capture things like Scott's hyper-kinetic behavior with a cartoon character.
Of course, I still have not seen the film, so I don't want to say anything definitive. I suspect I will like it a lot. Just hypothesizing.
FWIW, I think the 4 minute animation on AS nailed it perfectly.
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This movie is not without it's faults. Just to name one, it never really establishes why Scott and Ramona are even together beyond Scott's superficial crush. In terms of story, it is almost entirely inferior to the books.
On the other hand, the editing and cinematography are, IMHO, revolutionary. The action scenes are some of the best this year. And it does add some things that are improvements over the source material, such as the stunt doubles or the way the 1UP boots Scott back to a save point instead of just having him get back up on the spot.
So yeah. You should go see this movie. It is awesome. But it is not a replacement for the books so you should go read those if you haven't.
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This seems like one of those things where a lot of the movie is shown in trailers...but I haven't seen
Ramona and Knives' fight at all.
Is it in the film?
The answer is behind this spoiler.
Technically yes. Only the fight occurs at the end of the film, when Scott is confronting Gideon.
On the one hand, I appreciated that they tried to spin things up and make them different, which included moving some stuff around. The 1up shows up at a different place, Envy's weak-point is moved to be Roxanne's weak point (and is how she is destroyed, which was an awkward scene by the way), and the outfits for the one gig Sex Bob-omb played shows up at the end. But on the other hand, it didn't seem to be done aside from making things seem different. Like they were great punches that they wanted to retain without retaining their original scenes.
This movie is not without it's faults. Just to name one, it never really establishes why Scott and Ramona are even together beyond Scott's superficial crush. In terms of story, it is almost entirely inferior to the books.
On the other hand, the editing and cinematography are, IMHO, revolutionary. The action scenes are some of the best this year. And it does add some things that are improvements over the source material, such as the stunt doubles or the way the 1UP boots Scott back to a save point instead of just having him get back up on the spot.
So yeah. You should go see this movie. It is awesome. But it is not a replacement for the books so you should go read those if you haven't.
man i finally saw the movie and can finally end my blackout of the scott pilgrim threads. movie was great.
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edited August 2010
Haven't read the novels, but I found the movie incredibly funny and Scott and Ramona quite cute as characters. Like the cast of characters and the visual style of the film was really nice, if the story seemed a bit cramped.
Pretty sure I walked down a number of the streets in the film. Gonna have to doublecheck in September.
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edited August 2010
One criticism of the movie is that it never really establishes why Scott falls for Romona outside of she is the "girl of his dreams". Honestly, I don't think the books give a reason beyond "dream girl" either, so what did I miss?
What reasons were there for Scott to fall for Romona in the books?
I searched the thread for descriptions of the original ending, and all I'm getting are single sentences about who Scott ends up with instead. Where can I find a more account of how things were changed between the original and the final cut?
One criticism of the movie is that it never really establishes why Scott falls for Romona outside of she is the "girl of his dreams". Honestly, I don't think the books give a reason beyond "dream girl" either, so what did I miss?
What reasons were there for Scott to fall for Romona in the books?
There are never really "reasons" for a person to fall in love with another person, are there? And if there were, enjoying the same stuff would be the first thing people think of, and they do have similar interests.
My only gripe was that Ramona didn't seem into Scott at all until they ended up at her apartment, whereas the comic spent a bit more time showing her warm up to him during the first date.
After that, though, I more or less bought them as a young couple going through the early stages of a relationship. Yeah, they never seem like they're deeply and madly in love, but they've only known each other for a few days by the time the film ends anyway.
And with the way they changed the ending to make it so Scott is fighting for himself, not to be with Ramona, it's much less essential for them to be in "true love." Furthermore, when they go off together after the fight, it's described as a fresh start rather than a continuation of their deep relationship. To me, that's proof enough that the film is ultimately about Scott earning the chance to move on from his last relationship and take a chance with Ramona, not about him risking life and limb to be with the love of his life. He has no reason to think that she's the one for him, and that's why the audience doesn't feel the same way either, but by the end they know enough about each other to think it's worth it to give a relationship a try.
The book, on the other hand, has a completely different take due to the fact that it takes place over years and Scot and Ramona have been in a long-term relationship by the time everything wraps up.
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edited August 2010
I literally looked like hey redid the last 4 minutes of the film. It really came out of nowhere and I think it would be a stronger movie if it did with a Knives gets Scott ending.
One criticism of the movie is that it never really establishes why Scott falls for Romona outside of she is the "girl of his dreams". Honestly, I don't think the books give a reason beyond "dream girl" either, so what did I miss?
What reasons were there for Scott to fall for Romona in the books?
Initially that is pretty much it, he sees her in his dreams, then sees she is real and goes after her.
Also, I don't see how putting him with Knives could have worked without some major changes.
Scott is still into Ramona more than Knives by the time the film ends. So, either he suddenly decides he likes Knives better and she takes him back despite how he treated her, or Ramona dumps Scott and essentially pushes him into Knives' arms. In the latter case, the ending is even worse because Scott's rebounding from Ramona by dating Knives, which is exactly what he was doing at the beginning of the film.
It felt like the whole ending fight thing and Ramona saying "You two make a good combo" it was like Scott learned something and he did. IT felt emotionally right to me that he was gonna stay with Knives. I still like that he went with Ramona because them walking into subspace together as they played Ramona was beautiful.
It felt like the whole ending fight thing and Ramona saying "You two make a good combo" it was like Scott learned something and he did. IT felt emotionally right to me that he was gonna stay with Knives. I still like that he went with Ramona because them walking into subspace together as they played Ramona was beautiful.
It'd be different if he realized it himself, provided it happened early enough. If Ramona essentially tells him who he should be with, though, it makes him a little too passive for my taste, even if he takes it well and the new relationship isn't just a rebound after losing Ramona.
Plus, Knives accepting Scott back that easily would kind of negate the personal growth she showed when she told Scott to go after Ramona.
the more I think about this movie, the more I feel it had all the pizazz and fun of the comics but none of the substance. it was really fun and I think I'm going to go see it again in the next week, but it had zero depth and nuance. Some of the best moments in the comics were the quiet, contemplative panels where the characters are allowed to breathe. The movie is a fun adventure, but I kind of want to consider it as a companion to the books rather than treating it completely on its own merits.
oh, and i'll say it again, Michael Cera was a horrible sucky sucktastic choice for scott. Nothing about him was as awesome as it should have been.
As for the exes, Chris Evans was a surprising stand out. I think I liked his character's persona the best.
What's funny about this is the part in the end where a guy in the crowd is heard saying "The comic was way better than the movie."
One criticism of the movie is that it never really establishes why Scott falls for Romona outside of she is the "girl of his dreams". Honestly, I don't think the books give a reason beyond "dream girl" either, so what did I miss?
What reasons were there for Scott to fall for Romona in the books?
It's pointed out several times in the book that Scott and Ramona are actually very similar. For example, book ending spoilers:
When it turns out that Ramona just left to think things through for a couple of days, but ended up wasting like three months watching TV and playing games.
Also there's just a lot more them acting as a couple: going to parties together, doing stuff, etc.
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Which makes me think "No. 1, so there IS going to be a No. 2??!!!" Or perhaps I'm just reading into it too much.
He is saying go make it #1 a the box office
I expected them to be the vegan police
Also, is there somewhere to see this animation tie-in? I saw the teaser for it, but I want to see the whole thing.
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It was alright, I guess. The editing is really what the movie had going for it.
oh, and i'll say it again, Michael Cera was a horrible sucky sucktastic choice for scott. Nothing about him was as awesome as it should have been.
As for the exes, Chris Evans was a surprising stand out. I think I liked his character's persona the best.
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I really enjoyed watching the movie. But, even having only read half of the comics, the movie felt like it was lacking many of the subplots and resulting characterizations that made the comics so strong. I try to avoid comparing adaptations to the original because I want to evaluate them on their own strengths and weaknesses.
For instance, aside from the subplot argument, one of my bigger complaints is that Michael Cera never quite embodies the super happy clueless 'awesome' Scott of the comic. I think overall he does a good job but he never quite gets to where I thought he would. But, is this just an adaptation difference? It doesn't necessarily harm the movie. But I still have this little niggle in me that misses it.
For now, I will say I enjoyed the movie. I definitely enjoyed the movie. It was energetic and kinetic and funny and visually exciting. (Perhaps this disparity between the movie's flawlessly-executed visual style and Michael Cera's subdued acting is what causes my niggle?) I compare watching this movie to attending a rock concert. Its loud and flashy and extreme. I liked it. I just liked the comics more.
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Spoilered because it's better to see it fresh:
Also, that Seinfeld joke was totally out of left field, but also surprisingly funny.
That was the one time in the theater that everyone laughed in unison.
All five of us.
this movie was awesome as hell in every way
end. of. story.
My only gripe is that the movie should of been a 3 parter that went more in depth into the characters.
They should of went more indepth into Romona's and Scott's past relationships. The movie really needed Lisa, and Envy should of been a bigger role.
But, it was still a fun as hell movie.
And, holy smokes, Envy and Roxanne was freaking hot in this movie.
Oh, and Gideon wasn't a big enough dick in the film.
I suspect that a lot of the magic of the books cannot be captured via live-action. It seems like it would be perfect for an animated film, because it's easier to capture things like Scott's hyper-kinetic behavior with a cartoon character.
Of course, I still have not seen the film, so I don't want to say anything definitive. I suspect I will like it a lot. Just hypothesizing.
FWIW, I think the 4 minute animation on AS nailed it perfectly.
Review, beware spoilers:
This movie is not without it's faults. Just to name one, it never really establishes why Scott and Ramona are even together beyond Scott's superficial crush. In terms of story, it is almost entirely inferior to the books.
On the other hand, the editing and cinematography are, IMHO, revolutionary. The action scenes are some of the best this year. And it does add some things that are improvements over the source material, such as the stunt doubles or the way the 1UP boots Scott back to a save point instead of just having him get back up on the spot.
So yeah. You should go see this movie. It is awesome. But it is not a replacement for the books so you should go read those if you haven't.
The answer is behind this spoiler.
On the one hand, I appreciated that they tried to spin things up and make them different, which included moving some stuff around. The 1up shows up at a different place, Envy's weak-point is moved to be Roxanne's weak point (and is how she is destroyed, which was an awkward scene by the way), and the outfits for the one gig Sex Bob-omb played shows up at the end. But on the other hand, it didn't seem to be done aside from making things seem different. Like they were great punches that they wanted to retain without retaining their original scenes.
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Pretty sure I walked down a number of the streets in the film. Gonna have to doublecheck in September.
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What reasons were there for Scott to fall for Romona in the books?
There are never really "reasons" for a person to fall in love with another person, are there? And if there were, enjoying the same stuff would be the first thing people think of, and they do have similar interests.
My only gripe was that Ramona didn't seem into Scott at all until they ended up at her apartment, whereas the comic spent a bit more time showing her warm up to him during the first date.
After that, though, I more or less bought them as a young couple going through the early stages of a relationship. Yeah, they never seem like they're deeply and madly in love, but they've only known each other for a few days by the time the film ends anyway.
The book, on the other hand, has a completely different take due to the fact that it takes place over years and Scot and Ramona have been in a long-term relationship by the time everything wraps up.
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Initially that is pretty much it, he sees her in his dreams, then sees she is real and goes after her.
Neither scenario feels right.
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Plus, Knives accepting Scott back that easily would kind of negate the personal growth she showed when she told Scott to go after Ramona.
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What's funny about this is the part in the end where a guy in the crowd is heard saying "The comic was way better than the movie."
It's pointed out several times in the book that Scott and Ramona are actually very similar. For example, book ending spoilers:
Also there's just a lot more them acting as a couple: going to parties together, doing stuff, etc.
Also, I just bought the score AND soundtrack.