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Boring PAX East panel is boring - What panels didn't hold up?

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  • zarfzarf Registered User regular
    edited March 2010
    (Re: Get Lamp)
    Maize wrote:
    I agree about the filmmaker. I felt that he was really self-aggrandizing and kept trying to steal the spotlight. Andrew Plotkin (I assume that that's who you mean by the guy making new fiction) barely spoke, though, which I was actually kind of disappointed with.

    The film itself really had a nostalgic bent and sort of wrote off modern developments as attempts to recapture a slight glint of the glory days. I think if I'd have been Andrew up there I would have been pretty frustrated about that, because modern IF has put out some truly amazing work.

    I tried to get at that in the panel discussion. The movie segment really only looked at modern IF as commercial-or-not, and I certainly have more to say about it than that. But (again) the DVD will be much longer than the PAX edit, and it will cover more.

    Also remember that I had just been on a 5:30 panel that was *five* modern IF authors -- all around my age. I talked plenty there. So I felt like I should sit back during this one. I mean, I was surrounded by these heroes I had when I was ten-twelve years old; speaking up at all was scary. :)

    Jason Scott (the filmmaker) started out more or less interrogating us about his movie, but I think he caught himself after a while and went over to audience questions.

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  • lojurivelojurive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I know this thread has sort of evolved into a "What could have been better about the Girls and Gaming panel" discussion . . .

    But I'd REALLY like to see a panel on how games can help people with Special Needs. They can highlight how CHILDS PLAY has helped children in physical therapy and get some experts on Special Needs to come in and discuss how VIDEO GAMES can help a child ease into a social setting . . . I have a son with autism, who LOVES video games and was with me all weekend. :)

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  • mazie kabluziemazie kabluzie Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    lojurive wrote: »
    I know this thread has sort of evolved into a "What could have been better about the Girls and Gaming panel" discussion . . .

    But I'd REALLY like to see a panel on how games can help people with Special Needs. They can highlight how CHILDS PLAY has helped children in physical therapy and get some experts on Special Needs to come in and discuss how VIDEO GAMES can help a child ease into a social setting . . . I have a son with autism, who LOVES video games and was with me all weekend. :)

    Absolutely!!! I also have a son with autism who loves video games. He got a DS for Christmas, and the focus and fine motor skills needed to play Mario have been great for the development he needs. Unfortunately, his teachers do not allow him to write about video games or superheros during school or in his homework (he tends to be obssessive). He attended PAX on Sunday and the members of VGO played the Mario arrangement for him which he thought was awesome! He also loved being on the Expo floor and in the console free play room. He has a unique perspective and is very creative and (though he is 6) talking to some of the people at PAX about video games as a job was very motivating for him. He couldn't fathom the concept of it!

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  • BlahKraxBlahKrax Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    VisionOfClarity wrote: »
    capnjack wrote: »
    I didn't get to see the Girl Gamer panel, but I can't stop thinking about this comic, and was wondering if this about sums it up...Sorry if anyone is offended, not trying to be a dick, but I think this illustrates both extremes of the girl-gamer issue pretty well.
    Girl_Gamers_by_FizTheAncient.png

    I'm so saving this comic.


    Here is the non-PC answer:

    -They have this panel yet I find more so than not that a girl will put something female oriented either in their avatar identity or picture (a picture specifically correlating back with only that of a female).

    In terms of the objectification, please. I understand the salary and women discrepancy and not being respected in terms of work, alright. However, objectification? Newsflash, straight men like looking at an attractive female body! Yes! They are aroused by it so people need to stop treating this junk like it's some mystery.

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  • Mad_Scientist_WorkingMad_Scientist_Working Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BlahKrax wrote: »
    They are aroused by it so people need to stop treating this junk like it's some mystery.
    To quote Scott Kurtz:
    What the ()*()*? What is wrong with you people? Ask a girl out.

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  • VisionOfClarityVisionOfClarity Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BlahKrax wrote: »
    VisionOfClarity wrote: »
    capnjack wrote: »
    I didn't get to see the Girl Gamer panel, but I can't stop thinking about this comic, and was wondering if this about sums it up...Sorry if anyone is offended, not trying to be a dick, but I think this illustrates both extremes of the girl-gamer issue pretty well.
    Girl_Gamers_by_FizTheAncient.png

    I'm so saving this comic.


    Here is the non-PC answer:

    -They have this panel yet I find more so than not that a girl will put something female oriented either in their avatar identity or picture (a picture specifically correlating back with only that of a female).

    In terms of the objectification, please. I understand the salary and women discrepancy and not being respected in terms of work, alright. However, objectification? Newsflash, straight men like looking at an attractive female body! Yes! They are aroused by it so people need to stop treating this junk like it's some mystery.

    And this is why I'm happy to have SE where this can be discussed with people who aren't silly geese.

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  • pardimatepardimate Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    lojurive wrote: »
    I know this thread has sort of evolved into a "What could have been better about the Girls and Gaming panel" discussion . . .

    But I'd REALLY like to see a panel on how games can help people with Special Needs. They can highlight how CHILDS PLAY has helped children in physical therapy and get some experts on Special Needs to come in and discuss how VIDEO GAMES can help a child ease into a social setting . . . I have a son with autism, who LOVES video games and was with me all weekend. :)

    I'd also be interested in a panel that discussed some of the disability issues related to video games, including vision, hearing, motor skills and one handed gaming. One of the things that annoys me the most as someone who plays video games with one hand is the lack of button customization. Games like Army of Two annoy the crap out of me because they don't have southpaw configurations. I know disabled gamers don't make up a hugely significant percentage of gamers, but just one panel talking about the various disability issues I think would be very interesting.

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  • capnjackcapnjack Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    pardimate wrote: »
    I'd also be interested in a panel that discussed some of the disability issues related to video games, including vision, hearing, motor skills and one handed gaming.

    Yeah, I was thinking about that actually. There was a guy at the first PA panel who was a paraplegic gamer. He said he has a petition regarding better button configurations and accessible gaming. I would like to sign that petition and support accessible gaming.

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  • pobblebonkpobblebonk Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I don't have anything nice to say about the Online Relationships Panel. It never really went anywhere, the panelists seemed more interested in talking about their own websites and the few people in the front rows who understood all of their in-jokes. That was the first panel I went to and I was worried about seeing any of the others after that.

    I'm not a parent but I did enjoy the "bringing up geek" panel very much. It was a bit light on real discussion in favour of funny anecdotes about these geek's kids. I found it pretty entertaining.
    Would have liked to get into some of the other panels My friend is in journalism and was upset that we kept missing out on those panels, especially on Friday when the journalism vs developers panel was scheduled to start at the same time the doors opened, while we were still stuck in line.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Rainsodden wrote: »
    (And why is it Girls and Gaming, anyway? I'm not offended by the title, but I'm busy making my peace with turning 30 this summer. Am I really still a girl, as opposed to a woman? Should I feel I have to be? Does using the term 'girls' as an umbrella term to refer to all females in gaming trivalize them? Discuss--no, wait, I don't think anyone ever asked that question at the panel.)

    It's because "Girl" and "Gaming" both start with the letter "G". It's alliteration. It's catchy. I wouldn't over analyze it.

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  • lojurivelojurive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Have you filled out the post-pax survey? When they ask "What would you like to see more of?" I put a comment about panels geared towards parents of Children of Special Needs and offered to clarify if they needed me to. Don't forget to fill out the survey!
    pardimate wrote: »
    lojurive wrote: »
    I know this thread has sort of evolved into a "What could have been better about the Girls and Gaming panel" discussion . . .

    But I'd REALLY like to see a panel on how games can help people with Special Needs. They can highlight how CHILDS PLAY has helped children in physical therapy and get some experts on Special Needs to come in and discuss how VIDEO GAMES can help a child ease into a social setting . . . I have a son with autism, who LOVES video games and was with me all weekend. :)

    I'd also be interested in a panel that discussed some of the disability issues related to video games, including vision, hearing, motor skills and one handed gaming. One of the things that annoys me the most as someone who plays video games with one hand is the lack of button customization. Games like Army of Two annoy the crap out of me because they don't have southpaw configurations. I know disabled gamers don't make up a hugely significant percentage of gamers, but just one panel talking about the various disability issues I think would be very interesting.

    lojurive on
  • pardimatepardimate Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    lojurive wrote: »
    Have you filled out the post-pax survey? When they ask "What would you like to see more of?" I put a comment about panels geared towards parents of Children of Special Needs and offered to clarify if they needed me to. Don't forget to fill out the survey!
    pardimate wrote: »
    lojurive wrote: »
    I know this thread has sort of evolved into a "What could have been better about the Girls and Gaming panel" discussion . . .

    But I'd REALLY like to see a panel on how games can help people with Special Needs. They can highlight how CHILDS PLAY has helped children in physical therapy and get some experts on Special Needs to come in and discuss how VIDEO GAMES can help a child ease into a social setting . . . I have a son with autism, who LOVES video games and was with me all weekend. :)

    I'd also be interested in a panel that discussed some of the disability issues related to video games, including vision, hearing, motor skills and one handed gaming. One of the things that annoys me the most as someone who plays video games with one hand is the lack of button customization. Games like Army of Two annoy the crap out of me because they don't have southpaw configurations. I know disabled gamers don't make up a hugely significant percentage of gamers, but just one panel talking about the various disability issues I think would be very interesting.

    Don't worry, already did!

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  • ArcoArco Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I was one of the Enforcers working the Wyvern theater, where the Gamerdad parenting panel was. It was amazing to see the response that, that panel got! I felt sorry that we had to cram you guys in there and escort you to your seats one by one, but it was really heartwarming and encouraging to see so many people, especially people in relationships or already with kids, wanting to listen, learn, and ask questions about bringing up a child steeped in geek and gamer culture. That really touched me.

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