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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    So I am still currently on Platinum, but everyone is telling me to get HG or SS.

    My nephew showed me some of his HG game and the Pokewalker and I must say I kinda want the game now.

    Would anyone mind telling me what's been improved on in these games?

    Also, I missed the Jirachi Gamestop was giving out. Is anyone able to clone that?
    Everything has been improved.

    The format is better, the music is great, more touch controls, etc.

    Not to mention that the original Gold/Silver were great, so the remakes are well worth a shot. They blow D/P/Pt out of the water.

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  • AdelliosAdellios Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    However there is no VS Seeker. I think thats the only downside really. Well that and Platinum's move tutors and buyable coins for TMs

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  • Z0reZ0re Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    HG SS have all Platinum's move tutors plus a few others, on the downside they are all in the battle frontier now.

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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I see.

    Didn't the original Gold and Silver games have a third game come out that kinda meshed the two? I forget.

    Also, anyone have that Jirachi, please? I just want it for the route it opens.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I see.

    Didn't the original Gold and Silver games have a third game come out that kinda meshed the two? I forget.

    Also, anyone have that Jirachi, please? I just want it for the route it opens.

    Yeah, Crystal. Far as I know, all its bonuses, like some special Suicune moments, are already built into the games.

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  • ringswraithringswraith Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh wow. Even more incentive to get it then.

    Bah. Maybe in a month or so...

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BugBoy wrote: »
    Everything has been improved.
    lol

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    What's funny?

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    - Anyone who prefers the Pokegear over the Poketch is bonkers.
    - No Vs Seeker means no abusable Magikarp trainer for EV training.
    - No long, straight breeding route.
    - Slower PC management, even with touchscreen improvements.
    - No Marking Map for super easy roamer tracking.
    - Two regions is more fun in theory than in practice. By the time you get to the 12th or 13th badge it really feels like a grind.
    - DPPt has a real-time clock as well, but no stupid restrictions on when you can do what like HGSS does. Collecting all of the gym leader numbers in HGSS is a pain, as well as some other things.

    Don't get me wrong. If you don't have any DS Pokemon game yet then I'd recommend getting HG or SS too, but still.

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Those are some pretty specific criticisms!

    The legendaries can be tracked on your Pokegear map, if you didn't know. Unlike in DPPt, you can even see which specific one is where, so it's actually an improvement.

    And two regions is better than one region+ tiny island thing.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Two of those are hardcore only arguments, the breeding route and the VS. Seeker.

    I've always preferred fighting wild pokemon for EVs anyways, VS. Seeker isn't always reliable.

    I also prefer the stylus controlled pc and item management. PC would have been perfect with some more shortcuts and Items would have been better with a few more pockets to divide up consumables, battle items, and evolutionary items.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BugBoy wrote: »
    Those are some pretty specific criticisms!

    The legendaries can be tracked on your Pokegear map, if you didn't know. Unlike in DPPt, you can even see which specific one is where.

    And two regions is better than one region+ tiny island thing.
    You have to fumble through some menus every time you want to look at the map in HGSS. In DPPt, it's on the bottom screen and is updated in real time every time you switch locations.

    Sinnoh feels almost as big as Kanto and Johto combined. And Team Galactic isn't just a footnote by the time you're halfway done with the game. The Kanto quest just has no focus.

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    What's the big deal with the magikarp trainer anyway?

    Magikarp/gyarados are two of the easiest pokemon to find.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BugBoy wrote: »
    What's the big deal with the magikarp trainer anyway?

    Magikarp/gyarados are two of the easiest pokemon to find.
    It's a lot faster to just rematch one trainer with 6 Magikarp than it is to recast the rod after every "not even a nibble" message.

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  • Sangheili91Sangheili91 Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Hell yeah.

    After 45 hours and six minutes, the Elite 4 goes down.

    First time I've beaten an Elite 4 since Sapphire! :D

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  • undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    they are both good games

    i think most of those criticisms are nitpicky, applicable to few people, or just up to opinion

    i like the menus better, the breeding route of going between goldenrod and the route is fine if shorter

    the rest seems very nitpicky

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BugBoy wrote: »
    What's the big deal with the magikarp trainer anyway?

    Magikarp/gyarados are two of the easiest pokemon to find.
    It's a lot faster to just rematch one trainer with 6 Magikarp than it is to recast the rod after every "not even a nibble" message.

    Even when you have to walk/bike 100 steps to try the seeker, which doesn't always work? And i'm pretty sure the outside of the Dragon's Den in HGSS has nothing but magikarp anyway, so surfing there seems fastest of all.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Losing the Vs. Seeker does suck but even I know that fighting wild pokemon isn't any more difficult. You can Surf for Magikarps, I doubt the process will be much slower.
    I don't understand the breeding route complaint. Ever since Platinum where you could ride your bike through those checkpoints, I haven't had any interest in going in circles in one small area. The whole world is your breeding route! Or at least, from National Park down to Ilex Forest.

    And I don't think PC Management is slower, you just have to figure out how to work it.

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  • SixfortyfiveSixfortyfive Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    they are both good games

    i think most of those criticisms are nitpicky, applicable to few people, or just up to opinion

    i like the menus better, the breeding route of going between goldenrod and the route is fine if shorter

    the rest seems very nitpicky
    I agree, but it's dumb to use phrases like "blows them out of the water" when I can think of about half a dozen things I regularly put up with that are more annoying in HGSS than in DPPt.
    And I don't think PC Management is slower, you just have to figure out how to work it.
    It's absolutely slower if you're particular about how the Pokemon in each box are ordered. If not, then it's probably a wash.

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'll admit D/P/Pt did have an easier route to do while not paying attention, since you just had to press down, then up.

    With a little bit more focus, the Goldenrod area works just fine.

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    they are both good games

    i think most of those criticisms are nitpicky, applicable to few people, or just up to opinion

    i like the menus better, the breeding route of going between goldenrod and the route is fine if shorter

    the rest seems very nitpicky
    I agree, but it's dumb to use phrases like "blows them out of the water" when I can think of about half a dozen things I regularly put up with that are more annoying in HGSS than in DPPt.
    "blows them out of the water" is only my opinion, of course. All of the good things that they did for these remakes (in my opinion), far, far outweigh those tiny things you mentioned.

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  • Xenogears of BoreXenogears of Bore Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Better music

    Faster Saves

    Less Loading

    New IV Breeding Mechanic

    Pokewalker, Texas Ranger

    The vast majority of all Pokemon on one cart.

    AUTORUN

    Extra Touch Screen Shortcut

    Touch Screen Menus

    Move Tutor/Deleter in the SAME PLACE.

    Reliable Gym Leader Rematch

    Retro Music

    VOLTORB FLIP

    and yes, even their stupid contest replacement is fun.

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  • undeinPiratundeinPirat Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    BugBoy wrote: »
    I'll admit D/P/Pt did have an easier route to do while not paying attention, since you just had to press down, then up.

    With a little bit more focus, the Goldenrod area works just fine.

    you can do the exact same thing in goldenrod if you line it up right

    it's just a decent bit of a shorter route than the giant route they gave us in d/p/pt

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Better music

    Faster Saves

    Less Loading

    New IV Breeding Mechanic

    Pokewalker, Texas Ranger

    The vast majority of all Pokemon on one cart.

    AUTORUN

    Extra Touch Screen Shortcut

    Touch Screen Menus

    Move Tutor/Deleter in the SAME PLACE.

    Reliable Gym Leader Rematch

    Retro Music

    VOLTORB FLIP

    and yes, even their stupid contest replacement is fun.
    The only thing I'd add to that is having pokemon follow you when you walk.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    And I don't think PC Management is slower, you just have to figure out how to work it.
    It's absolutely slower if you're particular about how the Pokemon in each box are ordered. If not, then it's probably a wash.

    If we're talking about moving large groups of Pokemon then the old system is better. I don't look forward to moving around a few dozen level 1 breeding rejects.
    But being able to swap a pokemon on my team with something from the box in basically one movement is pretty nice. Before you would have to remove the pokemon from your team and then take the other pokemon from the box onto your team
    You know you can just swap pokemon around right? Pick up a pokemon, place it on top of another and the two swap locations. That seems a lot easier for particular box placement. You can reorganize a full box with ease now.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    And I don't think PC Management is slower, you just have to figure out how to work it.
    It's absolutely slower if you're particular about how the Pokemon in each box are ordered. If not, then it's probably a wash.

    If we're talking about moving large groups of Pokemon then the old system is better. I don't look forward to moving around a few dozen level 1 breeding rejects.
    But being able to swap a pokemon on my team with something from the box in basically one movement is pretty nice. Before you would have to remove the pokemon from your team and then take the other pokemon from the box onto your team
    You know you can just swap pokemon around right? Pick up a pokemon, place it on top of another and the two swap locations. That seems a lot easier for particular box placement. You can reorganize a full box with ease now.

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  • AdelliosAdellios Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh, Ghastly can re-learn Hypnosis! This breeding session will be faster than I thought it would be... I hope

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  • KorKor Known to detonate from time to time Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Re: Magikarp for Speed EVs.

    Surfing in Blackthorne sure is fun.

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  • Professor HydronProfessor Hydron Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    - Anyone who prefers the Pokegear over the Poketch is bonkers.
    - No Vs Seeker means no abusable Magikarp trainer for EV training.
    - No long, straight breeding route.
    - Slower PC management, even with touchscreen improvements.
    - No Marking Map for super easy roamer tracking.
    - Two regions is more fun in theory than in practice. By the time you get to the 12th or 13th badge it really feels like a grind.
    - DPPt has a real-time clock as well, but no stupid restrictions on when you can do what like HGSS does. Collecting all of the gym leader numbers in HGSS is a pain, as well as some other things.

    Don't get me wrong. If you don't have any DS Pokemon game yet then I'd recommend getting HG or SS too, but still.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    In D/P, if you pressed Y, the hand would turn yellow and just automatically pick up, drop, and swap without ever having to open the menu every single time. Plus, you could hold A down and pick up rows, or even an entire box of pokemon. And while doing all that, L+R always swapped boxes no matter what you were doing.

    Now, you can only pick up one pokemon at a time. Unless you open up the party menu too, you can't even drag them to another box. L+R no longer move between boxes. On the plus side, you have the rows of boxes on the top of the screen and drag and drop. But you have to use the arrow keys first to switch to the right row first, and even then you can only drop it in. And if you pick up the pokemon first, you're just wasting your time, because there's no way to switch boxes until you put it down.

    Simply put, while the system works, it's by no means "intuitive". It's great for moving one pokemon at a time, or moving a pokemon from the box to your party, or even moving a pokemon around in the same box. It all turns to clunky shit when you want to move between boxes, or want to move more than 1 at a time.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    It annoys me greatly that L and R no longer switch between boxes.

    That and having to press an extra button in order to move items.

    No I don't want to put it in the bag you asshole.

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  • InvisibleInkInvisibleInk Po,OrRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    And if you pick up the pokemon first, you're just wasting your time, because there's no way to switch boxes until you put it down.

    That part definitely sucks. And why do the Withdraw/Deposit options even exist anymore?
    I still feel it isn't any worse than before, its a great step in the right direction at least and hopefully Gen V will make the needed improvements.

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  • FiarynFiaryn Omnicidal Madman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I feel like the Box system in every single Pokemon is unideal or sucks in some way shape or form. It needs a total revamp.

    Bah humbug.

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  • Halos Nach TariffHalos Nach Tariff Can you blame me? I'm too famous.Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Does anyone have some sort of super-rudimentary guide to EV training and all that stuff? I'm working my way through the pokedex (Kanto and Sinnoh dex's complete...) and afterwards I feel like properly training up a team of my favourite pokemon. Not for any particular competitive reasons, just to have a team of awesome 'mons.

    But I have no idea what all this EV/IV/Nature nonsense is so some sort of guide would be handy.

    Thanks.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Here's another baffling UI screwup. I don't know about most people, but I use a combination of touch screen and buttons in my playstyle, depending on which is easier at the time. Sometimes I'll tap the Exit button, sometimes I'll use the dpad to select it and hit A, and sometimes I'll just hit B. Like I said, whichever is easier at the time.

    If you tap the Return option (indicating you want to exit out) while in the Box interface, it'll ask you "Exit the Box?", where Yes quits you out, and No keeps you in. If however you press B to try and quit, the question is instead "Continue Box operations?", where Yes keeps you in, and it's No to quit. And remember, hitting B at any time is the same as tapping the "No" option. I have mixed myself up so goddamn much on this. Why is it not the same question, with the same answer every time, no matter if you use the button or the touch screen? Why would you purposefully put this confusing little nugget in?

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Does anyone have some sort of super-rudimentary guide to EV training and all that stuff? I'm working my way through the pokedex (Kanto and Sinnoh dex's complete...) and afterwards I feel like properly training up a team of my favourite pokemon. Not for any particular competitive reasons, just to have a team of awesome 'mons.

    But I have no idea what all this EV/IV/Nature nonsense is so some sort of guide would be handy.

    Thanks.
    There really isn't any simple way to figure it out.

    Here are some links, though.

    Effort Values
    Individual Values
    Natures

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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Haha. So i ran into Raikou by accident, who was at full HP but paralyzed. I threw a fast ball for shits and giggles since I wasn't really ready for him and he stayed in.

    That was a pleasant surprise.

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  • ChenChen Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Does anyone have some sort of super-rudimentary guide to EV training and all that stuff? I'm working my way through the pokedex (Kanto and Sinnoh dex's complete...) and afterwards I feel like properly training up a team of my favourite pokemon. Not for any particular competitive reasons, just to have a team of awesome 'mons.

    But I have no idea what all this EV/IV/Nature nonsense is so some sort of guide would be handy.

    Thanks.
    INDIVIDUAL VALUES

    Individual Values, or IVs for short are numbers, from 0 to 31, given to each and every Pokemon when you first encounter it. This determines what your Pokemon's stats are. For instance you see how two Pokemon, even if they have the same Nature, have some different stats? Those are IVs. You can tell what stat has the highest IV on each Pokemon by looking in its Summary. See the line at the bottom of the screen where its Nature is shown? The "Loves to Eat," "Somewhat vain" "Likes to thrash about." That's the characteristic that shows the highest IV, or if two or more IVs share the highest, a random highest IV.

    Okay, here's where things get a little complicated. Each characteristic stands for a bunch of possible IVs. So if you get "Often dozes off" for the highest IV, it could be 31, but it could also be 26, 21, 16, 11, 6, or 1. The characteristics go around in a pattern, which repeats itself.

    Anyways, here's the list of the pattern. At the end, they repeat.

    HIT POINTS
    • 31-Often dozes off
    • 30-Loves to Eat
    • 29-Likes to Relax
    • 28-Scatters things often
    • 27-Often scatters things
    • 26-Often dozes off

    ATTACK
    • 31-Likes to thrash about
    • 30-Proud of its' Power
    • 29-Quick Tempered
    • 28-Likes to fight
    • 27-A little Quick-Tempered
    • 26-Likes to Thrash about

    DEFENSE
    • 31-Capable of taking hits
    • 30-Sturdy Body
    • 29-Good perseverance
    • 28-Good endurance
    • 27-Highly persistent
    • 26-Capable of taking hits

    SPECIAL ATTACK
    • 31-Mischeivous
    • 30-Highly Curious
    • 29-Very Finicky
    • 28-Often lost in thought
    • 27-Thoroughly cunning
    • 26-Mischeivous

    SPECIAL DEFENSE
    • 31-Somewhat Vain
    • 30-Strong Willed
    • 29-Somewhat Stubborn
    • 28-Hates to lose
    • 27-Strongly Defiant
    • 26-Somewhat Vain

    SPEED
    • 31-Alert to sounds
    • 30-Likes to run
    • 29-Quick to flee
    • 28-Somewhat of a clown
    • 27-Impetuous and silly
    • 26-Alert to sounds

    BREEDING
    The Magma Armor/Flame Body effect (EDP)

    A nice breeding feature introduced in Emerald is an additional effect that Pokémon with the ability Magma Armor or Flame Body have during the game.

    Eggs need warmth, right? Having a Pokémon with this ability in your team will reduce the number of steps you need to walk/ride in order for the egg to hatch by roughly half. The word ‘roughly’ here will be clarified later on in Section Three of this part of the breeding guide.

    Here is a list of Pokémon that can have the ability Magma Armor and Flame Body:
    Magma Armor: Camerupt, Slugma, Magcargo
    Flame Body: Magby, Magmar, Slugma, Magcargo

    Make sure you have always one of these in your team while you breed in Emerald, Diamond or Pearl.

    Because Slugma and Magcargo both only have Magma Armor or Flame Body, we're going to work on capturing them. They can be captured from various games. Remember, their out of battle effects work only in EDP, so if you get a Slugma from outside EDP, you need to transfer it to Emerald, Diamond or Pearl for Magma Armor or Flame Body to have their step-to-hatch reducing effects.

    Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald
    Slugma is found 10% of the time on the Fiery Path. In addition, in E, Slugma can also be found in Route 113.

    FireRed and LeafGreen
    Slugma will always appear on the third basement floor of Mount Ember. If you use Rock Smash on the same floor, Magcargo appear 10% of the time.

    Diamond and Pearl
    Start by heading north from the Resort Area, onto Stark Mountain. Go inside Stark Mountain itself, and walk around the first area. You've got a 35% chance of getting either Slugma or Magcargo; capture it when you see one.

    Other
    In Colosseum, Roller Boy Lon of Pyrite Town has a Slugma, and in X Gale of Darkness, Cipher Peon Kolest in Citadark Isle has a Magcargo.
    The Everstone Hold Item (EDP)

    In EDP, if a female Pokémon is holding the item Everstone and breeds with a male Pokémon, the baby will have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the female Pokémon. This also works if the Pokémon holding Everstone is Ditto.

    To be perfectly clear, these are the four different ways to transfer a nature 50% of the time to the baby:
    • A Male Pokémon breeding with a Female Pokémon holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Female Pokémon.
    • A Male Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto.
    • A Female Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto. (Even if both the female Pokémon and Ditto hold Everstone, it will still be a 50% chance of the nature being transferred, and it will always be the Ditto nature that is transferred to the baby. Also, Everstone will not work if it is being held by the female Pokémon while being bred with Ditto.)
    • A Genderless Pokémon breeding with a Ditto holding an Everstone results in the baby having a 50% chance of having the same nature as Ditto.

    If you breed in DP, it is possible that Everstone won't work. This happens if you breed two Pokémon that originate from different language versions, for example an English Emerald Ditto with a Japanese Diamond Chimchar.

    Everstone can also be found in various games. Remember that Everstone’s effect in breeding works only in EDP, so be sure to transfer it to Emerald, Diamond or Pearl if you find one outside of these three games.

    Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald
    An Everstone can be found in Granite Cave.

    FireRed and LeafGreen
    You can get an Everstone in the Pokémon Center near the Rock Tunnel.

    Diamond and Pearl
    Everstones are extremely common in the Sinnoh Underground. Just keep mining.
    Ditto: the Master Breeder

    As should be clear from the previous section, Ditto is a very valuable Pokémon to have, since it can breed with every breedable Pokémon, and it can also transfer its nature 50% of the time even to genderless Pokémon like Staryu, if it is equipped with the Everstone item.

    You might be saying, after reading all this: "Okay, let’s see if I’m understanding this correctly. I need a Ditto with a Timid Nature in order to breed it with my Gastly, so that I can get a Timid Gastly, right? But from where am I going to get such a Ditto?”

    The short answer is: you need to catch it.

    I can hear groans of disappointment, but cheer up: this is actually not very difficult to do. To ensure that its nature is the one we’re looking for, use a Pokémon that has the Synchronize trait (only in EDP).

    In EDP, if the first Pokémon in your party has the Synchronize ability (trait), all the Pokémon encountered have a 50% chance of having the same nature as the Synchronize Pokémon. The Pokémon that can have the Synchronize ability are the following:
    • Abra
    • Kadabra
    • Alakazam
    • Mew
    • Natu
    • Xatu
    • Espeon
    • Umbreon
    • Ralts
    • Kirlia
    • Gardevoir

    So first, you'll want to get a Ralts, a Natu or an Abra. Abra has a catch rate of 200 and is very rare in Emerald (route 116 and Granite Cave), so you might want to go with Ralts or Natu. Ralts has a catch rate of 235 and can be found in Route 102, but is a bit rare. Natu can be found in the Safari Zone, is uncommon and has a catch rate of 190. Remember that, the higher the catch rate, the easier that Pokemon is to catch.

    Here is a list of where Ditto is located:

    FireRed and LeafGreen
    Routes 13, 14 and 15, in Cerulean Cave and in the Pokémon Mansion. However, Synchronize doesn’t work here, so it's not recommended to catch Ditto in FRLG.

    Emerald
    It is quite common in the Desert Underpass.

    Diamond and Pearl
    Once you've completed the Sinnoh Dex by having seen all the Pokémon native to Sinnoh, Professor Rowan will give you the PokéRadar. Head to Canalave City and buy 100 Super Repels (Max Repels are a ripoff of the highest order). Head east, onto Route 218. Stand in the middle of the grass without your bike and use one of the Super Repels, followed by the PokéRadar. Look for grass with yellow lines coming from it, and head directly for it. 18% of the time, a Ditto will appear in one of these patches. After you capture the Ditto, the grass will shake again, and you generally want to head for a patch that is furthest away, not on the edge of the patch, and has those same yellow lines. If you did it correctly, you will encounter another Ditto. This is called chaining. Also, try to level up your Synchonizer to Level 35; if you run into another Pokémon, your chain will be broken, you'll have to try again.
    Breeding Information

    If you put two compatible Pokémon in the Day Care, the Day Care man will offer you an egg after you walk or ride for a while.

    The man then tells you one of the following four phrases:

    "The two prefer to play with other Pokémon than each other."

    This means one of the following four cases:
    One or both parents cannot breed.
    They are from different egg groups.
    You are breeding a genderless Pokémon with a Pokémon that is not Ditto.
    You are breeding a male Pokémon with another male Pokémon, or a female Pokémon with another female Pokémon.

    In this case, the two Pokémon will never breed.

    "They don't seem to like each other much."

    This means that the Pokémon being bred are different but have the same trainer IDs. They have a low chance of breeding, but they will eventually breed, so don’t give up.

    "The two seem to get along."

    This means either that the Pokémon being bred are the same Pokémon and have the same trainer IDs, or that they are different Pokémon having different trainer IDs. They have a moderate chance of breeding.

    "The two seem to get along very well."

    This means that the Pokémon being bred are the same Pokémon having different trainer IDs. They have a high chance of breeding.

    Note: By “same Pokémon” is meant two Pokémon of the same species and the same evolution form, for example Bagon + Bagon, Chimchar + Chimchar, etc. By “different Pokémon” is meant two different species of Pokémon or two Pokémon of different evolution forms, for example Kingdra + Bagon or Bagon + Salamence.
    Breeding Roads

    This is where you'll spend most of your time while you breed and hatch.

    In Emerald, there is a nice road 134 steps long, ranging from the Battle Tent sign in Verdanturf Town to the boulder on the shore of Route 118, where you can ride your bike on while waiting for the egg to hatch. The distance from the Day Care man standing in front of his fence to the left hand side of the end of the route is 66 steps. The distance between him and the right end of the route is 70 steps.

    In Diamond and Pearl, there is a road connecting Route 210 (north of Solaceon Town) and Route 209 (south of Solaceon Town) where you can bike through it back and forth while you're breeding. This road is 123 steps long. The distance from the Day Care man standing in front of the day care to the top of Route 210 is 64 steps. The distance between him and the bottom of Route 209 is 71 steps.
    Hatching methods

    Soft Reset Method
    This method is based on the fact that in Emerald, Diamond and Pearl, gender, nature (personality) and ability (trait) are already set (locked) as soon as the egg is created, before you take it. That means that if you save exactly before taking the egg and then soft reset, the Pokémon inside the egg will have the same gender, nature and ability if you load again.
    1. Save in front of the Day Care man.
    2. Take the egg.
    3. Bike on the breeding route.
    4. Ignore the next egg proposed to you by the Day Care man.
    5. Hatch the egg.
    6. Check the newly hatched Pokémon to see whether it does have the desired gender, nature and ability and
    • If it doesn't have the desired gender/nature/ability, save in front of the Day Care man again (there should be another egg waiting for you, which was produced while you hatched the first one) and repeat the process until you get a suitable baby.
    • If it does have the desired gender/nature/ability, but it doesn't have the desired IVs, soft reset the game (START+SELECT+A+B) and take the egg again (gender/nature/ability won't change, only the IVs), hatch and check the IVs, repeat the process until you get the IVs you want.

    Pros:
    • The gender, nature and ability you want are set in stone.
    • This method is useful to get a female Pokémon with the right nature and a few perfect IVs.
    • It is also useful if the parents don't like each other much.

    Cons:
    • Not many babies are bred and checked using this method, which means that it can get hard to get the right IVs when there isn't a high probability.
    • This method does not suit persons who care about game time more than anything else.

    It is recommended that this method is used in the beginning, when the probabilities to get the IVs you want are still relatively high (like when getting 1 or 2 flawless IVs). Alternatively, you can use this method when you're trying to get a female parent with the right nature.

    Mass Hatch Method
    This method consists of three separate stages. First you get a large number of eggs, then you hatch all of them and check them at the end.

    Get a number of eggs
    You take an egg as soon as it is created. When you have five eggs in your team and the next one is created, deposit all five in a box. Repeat this process until you have at least 25 eggs in a box. Take the parents from the daycare and leave the Pokémon you want to level up there instead.

    Hatch all eggs
    Withdraw five eggs having approximately the same number of steps walked before deposit and ride the bike unless all of them hatch. Then deposit the Pokémon, withdraw another five eggs having around the same number of steps walked and hatch them. Repeat the process until all eggs hatch.

    Checking all eggs
    If you want, first save in front of the PC. This helps if you release the wrong Pokémon by mistake. In the PC, choose the "Move Pokémon" option and go through all of the babies quickly to check if there are any shinies. Get your level 5 max neutral stats paper and check the babies. If you see one that you're aiming for, mark that baby (for flawless IVs I use ring = HP, square = Attack/Defense, triangle = Special Attack/Special Defense, heart = Speed). After you're done, release all the unmarked babies. Now withdraw five of the marked babies, and save in front of the PC. Rare Candy all five to Level 10 and check their IVs. Continue to Rare Candy the ones that look promising. When you're done, soft reset, release the ones that didn't pass the check, and deposit the rest. Repeat the process until you check all of the marked babies.

    Pros:
    • A large number of eggs (about the same amount as for the running method) are bred.
    • Other Pokémon can level up during this process.
    • You are able to do other things while riding your bike (like watching TV or surfing the Smogon website!)
    • You don't lose as much time as with the running method while going to your PC and back - around 30 seconds. For 25 eggs, this means there will be five deposits and five withdrawals. For the running method, you would make 25 deposits. On the other hand, the mass hatch method wastes time while waiting for egg creation and because of some of the eggs being left in the PC.

    Cons:
    • The time it takes to complete this method relies a lot on how often an egg is created. That's why it's only suited for when the parents get along very well, or get along. Sometimes, it takes around three minutes to get five eggs, sometimes even more than five.
    • Switching parents during this process is impossible. You'll have to wait until you have hatched and checked all the babies before doing so.

    This method is suited for the final stages of breeding, where you go for 3 or 4 flawless IV babies while you have both parents with at least 2 flawless IVs. You can also level up two other Pokémon while you ride the bike.

    EFFORT VALUES

    Effort Values are points your pokemon can get from fighting other Pokemon. For instance, if you spend a lot of time fighting wild Gastly in the Old Chateau, and you notice that your Pokemon's Special Attack is going up a bit faster than normal, that's because Gastly carries a Effort Value for Special Attack. Since lower level Pokemon grow quicker than higher level ones, the increase in stats isn't very obvious. On the other hand, if you train a Pokemon that starts at level 50 or more, you'll see their EV trained stats grow a LOT!

    The item Macho Brace makes the Effort Values, or EVs for short, double, so instead of getting one EV Point from fighting a Gastly, you get two.

    On very rare occasions, the lady at any Pokemon Center will tell you that your Pokemon has a disease called Pokerus. Unlike real life, it's a very good thing to get Pokerus. Pokerus does the same thing that Macho Brace does, it doubles the EVs you get from fighting Pokemon. If your Pokemon has Pokerus, you'll see it in the Pokemon's summary. It's a purple square that says "PKRS" under your Pokemon's name.

    After a few days outside the storage box, your Pokemon will lose the purple box and gain a smiley face in the lower right corner of its picture. This DOES NOT mean your Pokemon has lost the EV gain. It means that your Pokemon won't be able to spread it to any other Pokemon. Keep the infected Pokemon in the Storage Box if you don't want that to happen. If you want another Pokemon to get Pokerus, just keep it in the same party as an infected one and fight some battles. After a while, check the new Pokemon's summary to see if it has Pokerus. If not, keep on battling.

    So back to Effort Values. If your Pokemon has had Pokerus and if you put a Macho Brace on it, then your EV's will be quadrupled, So, that 1-Point Gastly will now be worth FOUR points.The sad thing is, you can only gain so many Effort Values. Each stat can only take 255 Effort Values (Although it's more usual to give your Pokemon 252 EVs, because it's easier to divide by 4.) In all your Pokemon will gain a total of 510 EVs. Try to keep it simple by making the EVs even numbers in each stat. If you think you have all your EVs in place, you can make sure of it by going to Sunnyshore city, go to the sticker shop and talk to the lady there. If your EVs are full, she'll give your Pokemon a ribbon.
    GETTING MACHO BRACE/VITAMINS/OTHER EV GAINING ITEMS

    To get a Macho Brace you must have three Burmy in your Party. Make each one of them a different type by making one fight in a building, another fight in grass, and the third one fight in a cave. Then take all three of them to Pastoria City. See that house just above the Pokemart? If you talk to the guy inside with all three different kinds of Burmy he will give you the Macho Brace.

    You can also gain Effort Values by feeding your Pokemon "Vitamins." These are nutritious drinks which give you 10 EVs in one Stat. You can only feed your Pokemon 10 of these per stat, so a total of 100 EVs.
    • HP Up: Hit Points
    • Protein: Attack
    • Iron: Defense
    • Calcium: Special Attack
    • Zinc: Special Defense
    • Carbos: Speed

    There are other EV increasing items too. They are prizes in the Battle tower. They will add 4 EVs to a certain stat along with your normal EVs. This is the list of what affects what.
    • Power Weight: Hit Points
    • Power Bracer: Attack
    • Power Belt: Defense
    • Power Lens: Special Attack
    • Power Band: Special Defense
    • Power Ankle: Speed

    To use Gastly as an example again, with a Power item equipped, you will gain 1 + 4 = 5 Special Attack EVs by defeating it or simply gaining experience from it. If it's infected with Pokerus this outcome is multiplied by 2, so that means 10 Special Attack EVs in total.
    REDUCING EVs

    If you made a mistake and accidentally put the wrong kind of EVs on your Pokemon, there is a way to fix that. Certain Berries will lower the EVs on one Stat. They are:
    • Hit Point Evs: Pomeg Berry
    • Attack EVs: Kelpsy Berry
    • Defense EVs: Qualot Berry
    • Special Attack EVs: Hondew berry
    • Special Defense EVs: Grepa berry
    • Speed Evs: Tamato Berry.

    Each Berry will take off 10 EVs. If your Pokemon has more than 100 EVs in that Stat, the berry will reduce the EVs of that Stat to 100 precisely.
    EASY PLACES TO TRAIN

    This is a list of some easy places to train each Stat. These aren't the only places, but they're the best I can think of.

    HIT POINTS
    At the beginning of the game, wild Bidoofs are worth 1 EV in Hit Points. Another good place is the Valley Windworks. You'll find wild Shellos, worth 1 EV Point each. Also if you come back later on Fridays in the game there will be a wild Drifloon there, it's also worth 1 Point. Later on in the game, Shellos and Gastrodon (Which are worth 2 Points) can also be found at Route 218. Once you beat the game and get the Pokeradar, you can use it at any of the three Lakes to find Wobuffet (Worth 2 Points.)

    ATTACK
    Wild Shinx are worth 1 EV each. They're found in Route 202, 203, and 204. Wild Machop are also worth 1 EV. They can be found on Route 207. Bibarel can be found in a LOT of places, they give two Attack EVs each. The Evolved form of Machop, Machoke, can be found in some of the later Caves. They're worth two Attack EVs.

    DEFENSE
    If you go into almost any cave in Sinnoh, you'll find wild Geodudes and Onix. They're both worth 1 Point each. Their Evolved forms, Graveler and Steelix, are 2 Points. Eterna Forest is also a good Training spot, for Silcoon and Cascoon which are both worth two points.

    SPECIAL ATTACK
    As you could tell from the earlier example I used, Gastly is worth 1 EV of Special Attack. The Old Chateau is a very good place to fight them. Route 215 has Kadabras which are worth two points. If you have any of the Third Generation Games (Like Fire Red) putting one of them in your DS will make Haunter (Worth 2 Points) and Gengar (Worth 3 Points) appear in the Old Chateau.

    Special Defense
    The most common Pokemon with Special Defense EVs are Tentacool (Worth 1 Point) and Tentacruel (Worth 2 Points.) If you haven't gotten Surf yet, you can find Mime Jr. (1 Point) and Mr. Mime (2 Points in Diamond) and Cleffa in the first floor of Mt. Coronet.

    SPEED
    Wild Starly have 1 Point of Speed EVs. They are pretty common in the beginning of the game. Zubat are also 1 Point and found in almost every cave. Their Evolved forms, Staravia and Golbat, are worth 2 Points. Later in the Game, a good place is Route 218. There are Floatzel (Worth 2 Points) Wingull (1 Point) as well as Glameow, (Worth 1 Point) if you have Pearl.
    BREEDING CHAINS

    Since the old days of Gold and Silver, Pokemon Breeding has been the same. You leave two Pokemon at the Day-Care Center and if they are both different genders and in the same Breeding Group, they'll make an Egg. The baby that hatches from the Egg will be the same species as its mother and it will have the TMs (If the Mother's Species can learn them) of its' Father. If the Father knows any of the Egg Moves the Baby can learn, these will be passed down, too. If the mother is the right Nature, and it's holding an Everstone there is a better chance of the baby hatching with that Nature, something that comes in VERY handy.

    So, what if you want the Baby to learn more than one Egg Move? That's where Breeding Chains come in. The first thing to do is figure out what Pokemon learns the moves. If you have a compatible pokemon that say learns one move naturally and the other one as an Egg Move, you can breed it with a different Pokemon to get the moves you need.

    Okay, as an example say you want an Electivire with both Cross Chop and Ice Punch. You figure out what learns the moves. One Pokemon in Electivire's Breeding group is Machop. It learns Cross Chop naturally, but Ice Punch is an Egg Move. So, you find a Pokemon that learns Ice Punch naturally, or from the Move Tutor. Hitmonchan and Medicham learn it, plus they're in the same Breeding group as Electivire and Machop. Here's how the Breeding Chain goes.

    Medicham (Male, with Ice Punch)+Machop (Female)
    |
    Machop (Male, Leveled up to learn Cross Chop)+Electabuzz (Female)
    |
    Elekid (With Cross Chop and Ice Punch.)

    The trick is finding a father that learns the right moves. If the Egg you get from the first generation is female, either reset your game or breed more Babies until you get a male.

    Breeding is also a way to not waste TMs. If you find a father who learns the TM naturally, you can breed it from Pokemon to Pokemon until you get to the Species you want.
    It's written pre HG/SS, but you should still be able to get the basic gist of it. Good luck.

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  • Professor HydronProfessor Hydron Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    What the easiest way to get a Global Trade, just browse international entries? I didn't have too much time at the coffee shop so I had to just throw a Cyndaquil on the GTS and hope for the best.

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  • BugBoyBugBoy boy.EXE has stopped functioning. only bugs remainRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The easiest way to get a global trade?

    Have several level 100 shaymins/deoxys/darkrais.

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