I'm kind of pissed they brought back the "everyone but rogue/deathknight/mage/druid doesn't get better tier" loot system. The ToC token was the right way to do it.
the toc token system was horrible. You got five tokens per raid, five. Everyone wanted one, and everyone wanted at least two, if not 4. In ICC you at least have a smaller pool to roll against. There's more of a chance to pick up a token when you're rolling against 10 people than when you roll against 25.
It was really, really frustrating to never get a trophy in TOC because 25 people were always rolling on them.
So. You ran it with the same people only once?
Yes. At that point I was guildless.
I'll take rolling against 24 other people any day vs never having the opportunity to roll ever.
Seriously since ICC has been out two Paladin/Priest/Whatever tokens have dropped in 25.
Two.
Ever.
And the first one went to a guy who is no longer in the guild.
The second one went for roughly 5 months worth of raiding KP.
I'm kind of pissed they brought back the "everyone but rogue/deathknight/mage/druid doesn't get better tier" loot system. The ToC token was the right way to do it.
the toc token system was horrible. You got five tokens per raid, five. Everyone wanted one, and everyone wanted at least two, if not 4. In ICC you at least have a smaller pool to roll against. There's more of a chance to pick up a token when you're rolling against 10 people than when you roll against 25.
It was really, really frustrating to never get a trophy in TOC because 25 people were always rolling on them.
So. You ran it with the same people only once?
Yes. At that point I was guildless.
I'll take rolling against 24 other people any day vs never having the opportunity to roll ever.
Seriously since ICC has been out two Paladin/Priest/Whatever tokens have dropped in 25.
Two.
Ever.
And the first one went to a guy who is no longer in the guild.
The second one went for roughly 5 months worth of raiding KP.
So yeah. Give me a fucking universal token.
Same with me.. first week i got a sniff and won. After that.. nothing. Not to mention the GDAM shield of marrowgar. Sigh.
Plus i got my full tier with toc 25 a lot faster and i pugged it. Everytime. There are 5 tokens but every pug ive ran with didnt let you win more than 1 token. So even tho the chances were slim, at least you were given something of a shot other than no shot at all. I wonder what the odds are for both systems. I suck at math and figuring non basic stuff especially with the ICC tokens. At least the TOC ones are 1 in 25, 1 in 24, 1 in 23 etc
Annoyed: 70's in arena gear in the 60's AV. A resto druid/ms warrior combo that were 70 tore through half of our offense. PvPing as prot I've never had an MS warrior tear through me so horribly .
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Ive seen the shield drop more than the tokens. And ive lost the roll, every damn time. Im in a horrible loot rut right now. I dont remember winning a roll on any loot in a long time. I resort to trying to buy the damn item off the person who wins. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. Last time it worked, i spend 9k on a tier token for my mage.
In my guild we had the shield drop 6 times in our first 7 weeks of doing ICC. Pretty handy since we had 2 holy pallies, 2 resto shammies and 2 ele shammies that needed it.
Then once all the mains who could use it had it, it stopped dropping.
Happy: Finally got some time to play my Shammie alt, lvl 22 down.
Happy2: Got a star pony, was definitely worth it (especially since I don't have to be stuck on an elephant for a mount)
Hope: It keeps being good.
Hate: Now I like SFK, its one of my favorite classic instances, now if only I could get a semi-decent group for it. So far its been:
1. Paladin tank, one handed axe, no shield (gets called out on it, leaves)
2. Warrior tank, no weapon or shield (same as first)
3. Paladin, was wearing all cloth and some leather (no mail) and using a one handed sword. (says he's done it many times before, two dps drop)
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the Shambler Milk players.
Cast: Naphtali, tsplitter & tsplitter's friend.
Act 1: Heroic Trial of the Champion.
Our intrepid heroes have queued for a random heroic. Upon arrival they find an unguilded elemental shaman from Kael'thas, and the biggest prima donna tank in the universe.
Hate: People really are starting to make me dislike WoW... I get H HoR as my daily random on my priest. All is going well until the first boss. Due to the stacking DPS/healing debuff, things start to slow down a little. One of the DPS dies and the tank says "DPS blows" and bails when the boss is at 2%. Then the mage bails, leaving me and the tree druid. He runs over to me, kicks my shit in, then the druids, and then I was left sitting there, in an empty group, because the tank was that god damned inpatient.
Happy: I've taken a liking to Sims 2 again. Huzzah!
I get the dps blows a lot on my warlock when I get into heroic hor. I don't know why but a lot of people want to tank the mobs near the front door now instead of hiding
It can be a lot better to tank them out in the open with the right tools. There's not much room in the alcoves and it can be annoying to time AoEs and other skills to grab mobs before they get a hit on squishy people hiding in the corner, especially with my lag. By sitting at the door, they have to run through my DnD and I can just yank/silence ranged mobs. No random silly LoS corner issues either.
Hate: People really are starting to make me dislike WoW... I get H HoR as my daily random on my priest. All is going well until the first boss. Due to the stacking DPS/healing debuff, things start to slow down a little. One of the DPS dies and the tank says "DPS blows" and bails when the boss is at 2%. Then the mage bails, leaving me and the tree druid. He runs over to me, kicks my shit in, then the druids, and then I was left sitting there, in an empty group, because the tank was that god damned inpatient.
Happy: I've taken a liking to Sims 2 again. Huzzah!
I refuse to stay in the corner simply on principle. It's way more fun to do the fight in the center of the room, or even just by the front door.
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Grrr: Did random daily on my Druid, some annoying Warrior kept going all "heal plz" constantly, and then topped it off with "druid rezz" the first time he died.
Teehee: Stopped healing him. He just kept on dying. Have fun with the repair bill. Also, the other people in the group got annoyed that he died so much and kicked him before the final boss.
Hate: The run I was just on. Paladin dealing about 800 DPS - I pulled threat off him by blinking.
Additional hate: Kolurg's Whirlwind. How are you supposed to run out of that in time?
Hate 3: The Hatening: Our best, most reliable Priest has apparently both Faction and Server changed on us without so much as a discussion, complaint, warning or "see ya!"
I use the cubby because I cannot guarantee that the other 4 people are not pants on head retarded, so I might as well give myself every advantage possible.
Grrr: Did random daily on my Druid, some annoying Warrior kept going all "heal plz" constantly, and then topped it off with "druid rezz" the first time he died.
Teehee: Stopped healing him. He just kept on dying. Have fun with the repair bill. Also, the other people in the group got annoyed that he died so much and kicked him before the final boss.
My brother has a better one he is dual spec'd as a kitty and moonkin DUAL DPS! he gets asked to heal all the time and gets harassed into why is his off spec balance and not a healer
An example is he went to heroic pos where he had more health then the tank :rotate: and was asked to heal since the priest did not feel that confident in doing that instance
After finally getting a healer to 80, I don't think I could stand DPS queues anymore. It's hard enough on my mage. The 20-30 minute queues might have something to do with that though.
A hate is mine is I saw last night the message of Come Try Warhammer again
So I update and find out my Shadow Warrior is still lost in the dark elf area . My Magus is still a mess and I have no idea what I am doing the what you missed message was of little help.
It does not help I went and tried it out falling asleep
After finally getting a healer to 80, I don't think I could stand DPS queues anymore. It's hard enough on my mage. The 20-30 minute queues might have something to do with that though.
My mage has been at 72 forever for just that reason. I can either do quests I've already done 3 times and die every 5 minutes or wait 30 minutes and hope the tank/healer aren't cumcatchers. I tend to do the latter since I can just play Chrono Trigger on my DS until the queue pops. Anyway...
Hate: Getting Naxx for the weekly, being four badges short of my first T10 piece but having to wait since all anyone wants to do is VoA on my server.
Hate: People really are starting to make me dislike WoW... I get H HoR as my daily random on my priest. All is going well until the first boss. Due to the stacking DPS/healing debuff, things start to slow down a little. One of the DPS dies and the tank says "DPS blows" and bails when the boss is at 2%. Then the mage bails, leaving me and the tree druid. He runs over to me, kicks my shit in, then the druids, and then I was left sitting there, in an empty group, because the tank was that god damned inpatient.
Happy: I've taken a liking to Sims 2 again. Huzzah!
Do what I did and start playing Diablo 2!
I've been playing a lot of my older games, like Sims 2, Doom 3, Return Fire, or whatever I can find for free.
Hate: People really are starting to make me dislike WoW... I get H HoR as my daily random on my priest. All is going well until the first boss. Due to the stacking DPS/healing debuff, things start to slow down a little. One of the DPS dies and the tank says "DPS blows" and bails when the boss is at 2%. Then the mage bails, leaving me and the tree druid. He runs over to me, kicks my shit in, then the druids, and then I was left sitting there, in an empty group, because the tank was that god damned inpatient.
Happy: I've taken a liking to Sims 2 again. Huzzah!
Do what I did and start playing Diablo 2!
I've been playing a lot of my older games, like Sims 2, Doom 3, Return Fire, or whatever I can find for free.
I made the mistake of reading the Deus Ex thread in G&T...you can imagine what happened.
Back on topic:
Hate: Why is it that every time my guild is on a good run we loose essential people. We had Sin down to 13% last monday, this week the raid failed at Putricide on Wed and we had to cancel the Thursday one for lack of attendance.
Hope: My wife and i got back into wow after a 7 month hiatus, at the time i quit i was in guild raiding ulduar 10 and pugging 25man toc. I was so sick of the raiding anxiety, never getting gear, that i made the pledge but after my wife and I played around with STO and city of villains i went back to wow. I rerolled alliance and am having fun with the starter quests , my wife is still unsure so the hope is that my wife and I don't get burned out again.
Happy: My Wife played a fury warrior from vanilla to wotlk but she....completely sucked at it, she tried tanking and sucked at that but she's tried her hand at healing and she's really found her niche. she finds it fun and she likes being the one to save the day.
Hate: The occaisonal dipshit puggers, ninjas, failtanks, retarded dps, and the oddly long queue time for a healer and dps.
After finally getting a healer to 80, I don't think I could stand DPS queues anymore. It's hard enough on my mage. The 20-30 minute queues might have something to do with that though.
My mage has been at 72 forever for just that reason. I can either do quests I've already done 3 times and die every 5 minutes or wait 30 minutes and hope the tank/healer aren't silly geese.
For some reason, when I que as healer/dps on my shammy I more often than not end up dps'ing.
Also, been getting A LOT of geese who que as a tank and have/do at least two of the following:
A. Haven't done the dungeon before and don't know what to do
B. Are min level to get in and try to pull entire rooms at once.
C. Aren't prepared (No shield, cloth and/or leather)
D. Drop out on the first pull
E. Go AFK for >5 min
F. If there's three mobs in a pull, hold aggro on one and the other two go OM NOM NOM on the heals
Happy: Finally got some time to play my Shammie alt, lvl 22 down.
Happy2: Got a star pony, was definitely worth it (especially since I don't have to be stuck on an elephant for a mount)
Hope: It keeps being good.
Hate: Now I like SFK, its one of my favorite classic instances, now if only I could get a semi-decent group for it. So far its been:
1. Paladin tank, one handed axe, no shield (gets called out on it, leaves)
2. Warrior tank, no weapon or shield (same as first)
3. Paladin, was wearing all cloth and some leather (no mail) and using a one handed sword. (says he's done it many times before, two dps drop)
:evil:
I had an SFK group and a Deadmines group like that today and last night.
SFK. Pally tank, level 19, has the lowest hp in the group. Granted, I'm in a ton of heirloom gear, and the rest of the folks are like, level 21-22, but still. Mages and boomkins and stuff. At least he kind of knew what he was doing, even though he couldn't really hold aggro off anyone determined to pull it.
DM: Pally tank. The only person with less hp is the mage 2 levels below him. And only just barely.
He posseses all of 2! greens. Rolls need on leather gear. Spams hand of freedom and hand of protection constantly. Wouldn't bless wisdom on teh mage who asked for in chat pretty much constantly until after we'd downed Sneed. This guy in fact.
He isn't even wearing some of the shit he won.
We eventually kicked him and just 4manned it with me tanking.
Do you think he was going for "O Drat!" for his name, and the fact that it's "Tard-o" in reverse is just a coincidence?
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edited April 2010
Happy 1: Back in the game after a nice, peaceful 3 month hiatus.
Happy 2: Shaman finally to 80, bringing my total to 4 80's.
Hmm?: Since I'm Enhancement/Elemental spec'd, is it wrong if I roll need for both spec's at this point?
Haha: Got my Celestial Steed super early, had no queue & spent 30 minutes replying to random tells with where I got the mount.
A hate is mine is I saw last night the message of Come Try Warhammer again
So I update and find out my Shadow Warrior is still lost in the dark elf area . My Magus is still a mess and I have no idea what I am doing the what you missed message was of little help.
It does not help I went and tried it out falling asleep
I also got a pie to throw in the mail?
Well after some sleep and trying again I am still very confused but I did see a player so that's at least a bonus
I still remember why I quit it was not because it was confusing it was the general lack of people and the o so crappy gear I was getting if I wanted real gear I could pay in the AH for it {Who in their right mind has 50g at level 5} Or grind for hours for renound for it
Happy 1: Back in the game after a nice, peaceful 3 month hiatus.
Happy 2: Shaman finally to 80, bringing my total to 4 80's.
Hmm?: Since I'm Enhancement/Elemental spec'd, is it wrong if I roll need for both spec's at this point?
Haha: Got my Celestial Steed super early, had no queue & spent 30 minutes replying to random tells with where I got the mount.
General etiquette is to roll need on your currently active spec. If you enter a heroic as a enhancement you should ask the group if you can roll need on elemental. It's not a big deal in heroics, usually more of an issue in raids.
For heroics, if it's an item for my offspec, I'll wait for everybody to roll greed/DE before needing. If somebody rolls for their mainspec, I'll pass. If they bitch about it, that's their weird problem to deal with.
I always say, "If you need it, need it". I mean, it's loot that's probably going to be replaced with badge gear, so I don't make a fuss over it. So take all the upgrades you can get for free.
I've had people bitch me out for rolling need on heroic drops before on my very undergeared alts. When I'm on alts like that I don't roll unless it's an upgrade. If I'm going to be replacing that slot with badge gear soon I generally don't roll either but if I never rolled at all my gear would be even crappier than it is.
Had a guy call me a ninja once because I rolled need on the epic bracer drop from HoS. He was in T9 or better. I was rocking ilvl 200 gear(or worse).
Hate (and i'm sure everyone can identify with me): Low level people having no idea how to play their class. Randomed as Elem Shaman. Got sunken Temple. Strike 1 amirite? Got lost as always, accidental wipe on a miscommunication double pull, no problem. 2 people can't find their way back in. They leave, need to wait for a new healer. He shows up, but so does a "ret" pally with a shield. Strike 2. Healer knows the way. No problems at all. Last boss dead, drops Crest of Supremacy. Sweet! Roll need......but so does the pally. "It's got higher defence than mine". He of course beats me. Strike 3, fuck Sunken Temple forever.
Hate: The boat from Featermoon Stronghold to Feralas proper. If it's not either at the dock or within sight and approaching the dock when I land there, I don't even bother.
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- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
Amusing: Queue for a heroic, load into a group that just killed the second boss in HoL. Ut oh. The DPS is terrible: it takes 6 minutes to get through the hallway with the Vrykul statues. The DK randomly goes afk from what I can tell. The warrior is in level 70 gear still. Someone has DBM on and the DK gets marked for having the electricity shock thing on the lightning boss. He complains all the way to Loken about having a skull on him and how we need to remove it or else. I tell him he can change raid markings by himself in 5 mans. He gives us "one final warning" so I take the skull off and put the nipple on. He /y's "HAVE FUN FUCKERS" and leaves the party once I pull Loken. We're in combat so he doesn't get teleported out, and is not on the raid frames anymore for the healer, so he dies to lightning nova. We pass out the loot and leave, with his body buried under Loken.
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I'll take rolling against 24 other people any day vs never having the opportunity to roll ever.
Seriously since ICC has been out two Paladin/Priest/Whatever tokens have dropped in 25.
Two.
Ever.
And the first one went to a guy who is no longer in the guild.
The second one went for roughly 5 months worth of raiding KP.
So yeah. Give me a fucking universal token.
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Blizzard: Galedrid#1367 - FFXIV: Galedrid Kingshand
Same with me.. first week i got a sniff and won. After that.. nothing. Not to mention the GDAM shield of marrowgar. Sigh.
Plus i got my full tier with toc 25 a lot faster and i pugged it. Everytime. There are 5 tokens but every pug ive ran with didnt let you win more than 1 token. So even tho the chances were slim, at least you were given something of a shot other than no shot at all. I wonder what the odds are for both systems. I suck at math and figuring non basic stuff especially with the ICC tokens. At least the TOC ones are 1 in 25, 1 in 24, 1 in 23 etc
On our first Heroic kill.:rotate:
Ive seen the shield drop more than the tokens. And ive lost the roll, every damn time. Im in a horrible loot rut right now. I dont remember winning a roll on any loot in a long time. I resort to trying to buy the damn item off the person who wins. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. Last time it worked, i spend 9k on a tier token for my mage.
Then once all the mains who could use it had it, it stopped dropping.
Super handy.
Happy2: Got a star pony, was definitely worth it (especially since I don't have to be stuck on an elephant for a mount)
Hope: It keeps being good.
Hate: Now I like SFK, its one of my favorite classic instances, now if only I could get a semi-decent group for it. So far its been:
1. Paladin tank, one handed axe, no shield (gets called out on it, leaves)
2. Warrior tank, no weapon or shield (same as first)
3. Paladin, was wearing all cloth and some leather (no mail) and using a one handed sword. (says he's done it many times before, two dps drop)
:evil:
EDIT: Ah. Well that's no biggie, just do the heroic. He's wasting his time, not yours. It's not like ToC is hard to 4 man.
Origin: Galedrid - Nintendo: Galedrid/3222-6858-1045
Blizzard: Galedrid#1367 - FFXIV: Galedrid Kingshand
Happy: I've taken a liking to Sims 2 again. Huzzah!
Teehee: Stopped healing him. He just kept on dying. Have fun with the repair bill. Also, the other people in the group got annoyed that he died so much and kicked him before the final boss.
Additional hate: Kolurg's Whirlwind. How are you supposed to run out of that in time?
Hate 3: The Hatening: Our best, most reliable Priest has apparently both Faction and Server changed on us without so much as a discussion, complaint, warning or "see ya!"
My brother has a better one he is dual spec'd as a kitty and moonkin DUAL DPS! he gets asked to heal all the time and gets harassed into why is his off spec balance and not a healer
An example is he went to heroic pos where he had more health then the tank :rotate: and was asked to heal since the priest did not feel that confident in doing that instance
So I update and find out my Shadow Warrior is still lost in the dark elf area . My Magus is still a mess and I have no idea what I am doing the what you missed message was of little help.
It does not help I went and tried it out falling asleep
I also got a pie to throw in the mail?
My mage has been at 72 forever for just that reason. I can either do quests I've already done 3 times and die every 5 minutes or wait 30 minutes and hope the tank/healer aren't cumcatchers. I tend to do the latter since I can just play Chrono Trigger on my DS until the queue pops. Anyway...
Hate: Getting Naxx for the weekly, being four badges short of my first T10 piece but having to wait since all anyone wants to do is VoA on my server.
I've been playing a lot of my older games, like Sims 2, Doom 3, Return Fire, or whatever I can find for free.
I made the mistake of reading the Deus Ex thread in G&T...you can imagine what happened.
Back on topic:
Hate: Why is it that every time my guild is on a good run we loose essential people. We had Sin down to 13% last monday, this week the raid failed at Putricide on Wed and we had to cancel the Thursday one for lack of attendance.
Feels like Ulduar again
Hope: We can at least down Sin on Monday.
Happy: My Wife played a fury warrior from vanilla to wotlk but she....completely sucked at it, she tried tanking and sucked at that but she's tried her hand at healing and she's really found her niche. she finds it fun and she likes being the one to save the day.
Hate: The occaisonal dipshit puggers, ninjas, failtanks, retarded dps, and the oddly long queue time for a healer and dps.
For some reason, when I que as healer/dps on my shammy I more often than not end up dps'ing.
Also, been getting A LOT of geese who que as a tank and have/do at least two of the following:
A. Haven't done the dungeon before and don't know what to do
B. Are min level to get in and try to pull entire rooms at once.
C. Aren't prepared (No shield, cloth and/or leather)
D. Drop out on the first pull
E. Go AFK for >5 min
F. If there's three mobs in a pull, hold aggro on one and the other two go OM NOM NOM on the heals
SFK. Pally tank, level 19, has the lowest hp in the group. Granted, I'm in a ton of heirloom gear, and the rest of the folks are like, level 21-22, but still. Mages and boomkins and stuff. At least he kind of knew what he was doing, even though he couldn't really hold aggro off anyone determined to pull it.
DM: Pally tank. The only person with less hp is the mage 2 levels below him. And only just barely.
He posseses all of 2! greens. Rolls need on leather gear. Spams hand of freedom and hand of protection constantly. Wouldn't bless wisdom on teh mage who asked for in chat pretty much constantly until after we'd downed Sneed.
This guy in fact.
He isn't even wearing some of the shit he won.
We eventually kicked him and just 4manned it with me tanking.
Do you think he was going for "O Drat!" for his name, and the fact that it's "Tard-o" in reverse is just a coincidence?
Happy 2: Shaman finally to 80, bringing my total to 4 80's.
Hmm?: Since I'm Enhancement/Elemental spec'd, is it wrong if I roll need for both spec's at this point?
Haha: Got my Celestial Steed super early, had no queue & spent 30 minutes replying to random tells with where I got the mount.
Battletag: Kain#1658
Well after some sleep and trying again I am still very confused but I did see a player so that's at least a bonus
I still remember why I quit it was not because it was confusing it was the general lack of people and the o so crappy gear I was getting if I wanted real gear I could pay in the AH for it {Who in their right mind has 50g at level 5} Or grind for hours for renound for it
General etiquette is to roll need on your currently active spec. If you enter a heroic as a enhancement you should ask the group if you can roll need on elemental. It's not a big deal in heroics, usually more of an issue in raids.
Had a guy call me a ninja once because I rolled need on the epic bracer drop from HoS. He was in T9 or better. I was rocking ilvl 200 gear(or worse).
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)