Samphis, there is a mod out there that helps enhancement shaman with their rotation. I forget what it's called though.
shockandawe
Enhance can be a little overwhelming at first once you get the priority system down it isn't too bad. I find shaman dps in general to be on the lower side though.
I know there are people out there that rock out, and I can pull some pretty good DPS with my elemental set. That being said, to reach truly facemelting status is a lot harder for shaman IMO.
You're much more global capped, and have way more tools for specific situations.
Spell Reflect, Intervene, Intercept, Charge, Heroic Throw, Shield Bash (12s Kick compared to a Paladin).
Unfortunately AOE tanking is muuuuuuch more active, you don't have a fire-and-forget aoe spell in your arsenal, you have TClap (Instant w/ 6s CD) and Shockwave (Instant w/ 20s CD) and Cleave/Revenge.
Truth be told, tanking on a Warrior makes Pally/DK tanking seem hideously boring by comparison.
This.
Just being able to compensate for people not interrupting or whatever makes it worthwhile. My paladin is ultra boring in comparison.
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I don't tank as much on my warrior anymore (there's not much left for him with Triumph badges unless I want to gear up his DPS set), so pretty much the only time I break him out is to fix his issue with boots as he's currently wearing the Naxx 10 BoE ones.
This means going into HFoS, which is probably the nastiest instance outside of HHoR for multi-mob tanking, so I consider it my "workout" to tank it in a pug on him.
Now I understand why like 5 of our raiders either left or got kicked from her guild (the kicks where kind of our fault cause she saw them get icc achievements when we needed a pug and instantly kicked them)
I don't even understand what the fuck this means. English, please.
This is perfectly fine english if you could read.
He's saying, "She sucks so now I know why 5 of our raiders either left her guild or got kicked by her. The kicks were kind of our fault though because while her guild was pugging people, she saw (people in her guild) getting achievements in ICC with a different group (his guild)."
Thank you. I was right about to reply but finished reading down the page before I did. It seems like one of those "my way or get the hell out" type of guild leader situations.
And on the topic of starting a warrior tank, mine is up to 19 and it's really fun so far. It's a lot different than when i tanked on my druid with the sheer number of abilities they give you low level for tanking. Just got shield block which is insane at this level (and i assume all levels actually). I don't know if i'm doing it right but i got a compliment in WC the other day. Pretty much just sundering and revenging then tclap and target switching for aoe
Now I understand why like 5 of our raiders either left or got kicked from her guild (the kicks where kind of our fault cause she saw them get icc achievements when we needed a pug and instantly kicked them)
I don't even understand what the fuck this means. English, please.
This is perfectly fine english if you could read.
He's saying, "She sucks so now I know why 5 of our raiders either left her guild or got kicked by her. The kicks were kind of our fault though because while her guild was pugging people, she saw (people in her guild) getting achievements in ICC with a different group (his guild)."
What you just wrote is perfectly fine English, what he wrote was not, it was some sort of read between the lines shorthand that required the context to make sense, and for someone who has never been in a raiding guild and has no first hand experience with this kind of drama, there was none given.
As far as your criticism of my reading skills, you can stuff it up your ass, you goose.
Hate: The people you can get in H HoR. Got the instance as my random daily on my shaman and joined a group that looked like they were having a bit of trouble and hadn't made it to the first boss. Had a druid tank with about 38K hp in bear form and a priest of some kind. Well, the tank ends up getting stunned by a merc and going down because they would usually tank with mobs behind them. Healer bails, tank bails another dps bails, then it's just me and a Death Knight and we decide to re-queue.
Further hate: Start getting dps, then a healer and a tank, cue the tank dropping almost immediately. The other people that join up are a pally healer and a hunter. I'm bored, so I'm flinging out chain heals while still in my enhancement gear for fun while we wait. The hunter then decides that I'm the healer. Well, the hunter says that the pally should tank. The pally and I both say "but he's healing, we still need a tank." And the hunter goes "WTF?" and drops group. Then the pally goes and it's just me and the DK.
Happy: Just before we're both ready to call it quits, we get a pally tank with ICC10 gear and about 47K hp, a Tier 9 heavy priest and a really good fury warrior, surprisingly, all from different guilds. The run goes off with out a hitch.
Hate: NO MACE!
Amusing: Further experiences with the Cyclone Alliance are... special.
Hate: I got into H HoR three times over the weekend. Farthest group made it to the 3rd wave. Maybe I am undergeared for it. Someone who has completed tell me if everyone in the group is supposed to take constant heavy splash damage? I was having a hard time keeping up.
Hate: I got into H HoR three times over the weekend. Farthest group made it to the 3rd wave. Maybe I am undergeared for it. Someone who has completed tell me if everyone in the group is supposed to take constant heavy splash damage? I was having a hard time keeping up.
No. People should probably move out of that LoS corner when the mage flamestrikes and the rogue has his way with their mothers
On the chase? The Vrykul will throw out a shadow bolt volley and toss around curse of doom, and the aboms will do a spray, but the tank should have them facing away from the group since they are also cleave happy.
The Shadow bolt volley should just be easy to heal through with a rejuvenation.
Or are you talking about the first event in the sword room? About wave 3, both mercs and mages are going to show up and they like to randomly hit other people.
Yeah the sword room. People stayed back in the nook and there was so much splash damage. I tried to jump out but it was futile. It was just a wipe fest.
On all of my tanks I get comments that I take a lot of damage. People just don't seem to understand that there is just a lot of damage going on in that instance.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
If you're doing the nook strat and staying in the nook after the pull you and the rest of the group are all going to take a ton of avoidable damage that's going to tax the shit out of the healer if they're not raid geared.
If you're doing the nook strat and staying in the nook after the pull you and the rest of the group are all going to take a ton of avoidable damage that's going to tax the shit out of the healer if they're not raid geared.
Thats what was happening to me. I mean I have badge gear and it's not bad but it's not ICC level for certain. I guess most people don't know to leave the nook after the pull. I will suggest that but I am sure that will be met with lots of "NO! WE DO IT THIS WAY ALL THE TIME U R FAIL" It will be fun. I am looking forward to that.
edit to make sure I understand: you move in and out of the nook between phases. Basically once the mobs are in there the healer and non mele move out and into the room. Is this correct?
On all of my tanks I get comments that I take a lot of damage. People just don't seem to understand that there is just a lot of damage going on in that instance.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
That's healer code for, "I wanted to come in here for my free badges and watch TV at the same time, why can't you be ICC25 geared?"
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If you're doing the nook strat and staying in the nook after the pull you and the rest of the group are all going to take a ton of avoidable damage that's going to tax the shit out of the healer if they're not raid geared.
Thats what was happening to me. I mean I have badge gear and it's not bad but it's not ICC level for certain. I guess most people don't know to leave the nook after the pull. I will suggest that but I am sure that will be met with lots of "NO! WE DO IT THIS WAY ALL THE TIME U R FAIL" It will be fun. I am looking forward to that.
My solution to that as a tank is to LoS them outside the nook. That usually gets the point across. Can't dps if you can't see them.
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I think she was trying to make the point that if i couldn't heal fine without widsom i had a problem but it came out all argumentative when she said it
In fairness as a paladin when I have multiple people playing the same class in different specs asking for different blessings you do eventually get to the point where it's like "NO GODDAMNIT LIVE WITH WHAT I GIVE YOU"
I think she was trying to make the point that if i couldn't heal fine without widsom i had a problem but it came out all argumentative when she said it
In fairness as a paladin when I have multiple people playing the same class in different specs asking for different blessings you do eventually get to the point where it's like "NO GODDAMNIT LIVE WITH WHAT I GIVE YOU"
"Sorry there's multiple people here with your class, you're all getting kings."
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not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
I think she was trying to make the point that if i couldn't heal fine without widsom i had a problem but it came out all argumentative when she said it
In fairness as a paladin when I have multiple people playing the same class in different specs asking for different blessings you do eventually get to the point where it's like "NO GODDAMNIT LIVE WITH WHAT I GIVE YOU"
"Sorry there's multiple people here with your class, you're all getting kings."
Only works if you're the only paladin in the raid
If you have two paladins, one of them lucks out and does Kings and the other one has to put up with seven tells asking for short blessings because they are pretty pretty princesses
I swear, the single best thing about Cata is folding Wis/Might into one spell
At least until Cata comes out and then there's just Kings and WisMight(tm), Pally Power might as well come packaged on the game discs. No other mod has ever been more used by me. I can set up an entire raid of hybrids to get what they need from 2 paladins in about 30 seconds, including 10 minute might/wisdom for the hybrids who need a different one.
Maybe one of these days I will make it all the way through. It's the only heroic dungeon I do not have completed.
I was in this position on my pally this weekend. I never could get a decent tank could either stay alive and/or use their abilities effectively.
Had a DK tank this past weekend DnD too early and by the time the mobs came by the DnD was gone but they sure did notice me using sacred shield. They put on me on a pinball machine and had their way with me.
Had to go through 4 tanks and one horrible dps before I got done with that particular HoR.
Hate: All my upgrades in that place are at the end.
I think she was trying to make the point that if i couldn't heal fine without widsom i had a problem but it came out all argumentative when she said it
In fairness as a paladin when I have multiple people playing the same class in different specs asking for different blessings you do eventually get to the point where it's like "NO GODDAMNIT LIVE WITH WHAT I GIVE YOU"
"Sorry there's multiple people here with your class, you're all getting kings."
Only works if you're the only paladin in the raid
If you have two paladins, one of them lucks out and does Kings and the other one has to put up with seven tells asking for short blessings because they are pretty pretty princesses
I swear, the single best thing about Cata is folding Wis/Might into one spell
"Sorry you're getting sanct/might/wisdom" pick one. I default to sanct because that's 3% damage reduction. If we're wiping because of dps from might or longevity from wisdom, there's something else going on. Plus, shamans and warriors take care of the other two.
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Happy: Warrior is 79. I'm basically just going to get on each day this week to keep doing the tournament line to get the dailies so I can get the tanking axe, and then run a random when I finish with those.
Hope: I can convince my friend and my brother to farm ToC normal for the Black Heart and the tanking plate pieces. I don't really want to make stuff that I will be quickly replacing with triumph stuff, and this'd help me towards that.
Happy: Was just made an officer in my guild. Powerrrrrr, such wonderous pow... er.... responsibility, yeah responsibility. :P
Hate: Of course this was done right when we are experiencing some attendance problems. Any extremely talented people looking for a mature, close knit guild and have a tank, healer, or dps ready to step into the later 25man ICC hardmodes?
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-- Gnome mage enchantress and inscriptionologist... er scribbler --
On all of my tanks I get comments that I take a lot of damage. People just don't seem to understand that there is just a lot of damage going on in that instance.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
That's healer code for, "I wanted to come in here for my free badges and watch TV at the same time, why can't you be ICC25 geared?"
Worst part is I could actually tank in ICC25. People can be quite lazy sometimes.
On all of my tanks I get comments that I take a lot of damage. People just don't seem to understand that there is just a lot of damage going on in that instance.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
That's healer code for, "I wanted to come in here for my free badges and watch TV at the same time, why can't you be ICC25 geared?"
Worst part is I could actually tank in ICC25. People can be quite lazy sometimes.
I admit watching TV and playing at the same time but it's usualy on the "lower tier" heroics and I always test the waters to see how much attention I have to pay. The ICC instances and any raids get my full attention though. I can't slack those and I sort of like them anyway. They still have that new instance smell for me. Plus the music in FoS is awesome.
On all of my tanks I get comments that I take a lot of damage. People just don't seem to understand that there is just a lot of damage going on in that instance.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
That's healer code for, "I wanted to come in here for my free badges and watch TV at the same time, why can't you be ICC25 geared?"
Worst part is I could actually tank in ICC25. People can be quite lazy sometimes.
Seriously. It's like, you realize people used to do Heroics without Naxx gear, right? Let alone T9??
On all of my tanks I get comments that I take a lot of damage. People just don't seem to understand that there is just a lot of damage going on in that instance.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
That's healer code for, "I wanted to come in here for my free badges and watch TV at the same time, why can't you be ICC25 geared?"
Worst part is I could actually tank in ICC25. People can be quite lazy sometimes.
Seriously. It's like, you realize people used to do Heroics without Naxx gear, right? Let alone T9??
Nonsense. Heroics did not exist until ICC and unless you have full ICC gear you do not belong in them. You need to gear up before you can run heroics but you can not run heroics to gear up.
Hate: They are Abuse the Ooze (Halls of Stone) and Respect your Elders (Old Kingdom). I can't my friends to form groups for those two long dungeons, even for achievements.
Hate: They are Abuse the Ooze (Halls of Stone) and Respect your Elders (Old Kingdom). I can't my friends to form groups for those two long dungeons, even for achievements.
But those two are fast to do and trivial now with gear... Ooze is the last boss of HoS you can just do the gauntlet then do the last boss. is Respect your Elders the first boss one or the kill the last boss before Insanity #2? Still, skipping do the last boss in OK is fast as well.
Hate: They are Abuse the Ooze (Halls of Stone) and Respect your Elders (Old Kingdom). I can't my friends to form groups for those two long dungeons, even for achievements.
But those two are fast to do and trivial now with gear... Ooze is the last boss of HoS you can just do the gauntlet then do the last boss. is Respect your Elders the first boss one or the kill the last boss before Insanity #2? Still, skipping do the last boss in OK is fast as well.
It's the first boss. You can't cheese the fight anymore, though, so you need two tanks.
Hate: They are Abuse the Ooze (Halls of Stone) and Respect your Elders (Old Kingdom). I can't my friends to form groups for those two long dungeons, even for achievements.
But those two are fast to do and trivial now with gear... Ooze is the last boss of HoS you can just do the gauntlet then do the last boss. is Respect your Elders the first boss one or the kill the last boss before Insanity #2? Still, skipping do the last boss in OK is fast as well.
It's the first boss. You can't cheese the fight anymore, though, so you need two tanks.
A geared plate DPS would probably be enough, they stay in the boss' area grabbing all the little adds and AOEing them down while the boss is kited back towards the stairs way out of LOS.
Happy: Got my little pally tank to 30. All I do now is run SM over and over again.
Hate: DPS warriors who taunt off of me on bosses and die, then proceed to insult me. Look, if you want to taunt, fine by me, I'll get my two-hander out and dps for you.
Ha: Questing in Duskwood at 27, got jumped by this goose, thankfully prot pallies are apparently invincible outside of instances because he didn't get my health down past 60% before I killed him.
Mor'Ladim, the bane of my ally rogues way back in the day. And wasn't he level 36 or so back in the day? Ugh. Fuck him and fuck Sons of Arugal. *Nam flashbacks*
Hate: They are Abuse the Ooze (Halls of Stone) and Respect your Elders (Old Kingdom). I can't my friends to form groups for those two long dungeons, even for achievements.
But those two are fast to do and trivial now with gear... Ooze is the last boss of HoS you can just do the gauntlet then do the last boss. is Respect your Elders the first boss one or the kill the last boss before Insanity #2? Still, skipping do the last boss in OK is fast as well.
It's the first boss. You can't cheese the fight anymore, though, so you need two tanks.
A geared plate DPS would probably be enough, they stay in the boss' area grabbing all the little adds and AOEing them down while the boss is kited back towards the stairs way out of LOS.
It's pretty easy. You don't even need to go down the stairs or LOS. Tank takes the boss to one end of the long room you're end, and the off-tank pulls the guardian to the other end. If you have a hunter or a rogue, the healer stands between the two tanks, the DPS AOE misdirects/tricks to the tank, and just burn the boss.
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Enhance can be a little overwhelming at first once you get the priority system down it isn't too bad. I find shaman dps in general to be on the lower side though.
I know there are people out there that rock out, and I can pull some pretty good DPS with my elemental set. That being said, to reach truly facemelting status is a lot harder for shaman IMO.
This.
Just being able to compensate for people not interrupting or whatever makes it worthwhile. My paladin is ultra boring in comparison.
This means going into HFoS, which is probably the nastiest instance outside of HHoR for multi-mob tanking, so I consider it my "workout" to tank it in a pug on him.
Thank you. I was right about to reply but finished reading down the page before I did. It seems like one of those "my way or get the hell out" type of guild leader situations.
And on the topic of starting a warrior tank, mine is up to 19 and it's really fun so far. It's a lot different than when i tanked on my druid with the sheer number of abilities they give you low level for tanking. Just got shield block which is insane at this level (and i assume all levels actually). I don't know if i'm doing it right but i got a compliment in WC the other day. Pretty much just sundering and revenging then tclap and target switching for aoe
What you just wrote is perfectly fine English, what he wrote was not, it was some sort of read between the lines shorthand that required the context to make sense, and for someone who has never been in a raiding guild and has no first hand experience with this kind of drama, there was none given.
As far as your criticism of my reading skills, you can stuff it up your ass, you goose.
Further hate: Start getting dps, then a healer and a tank, cue the tank dropping almost immediately. The other people that join up are a pally healer and a hunter. I'm bored, so I'm flinging out chain heals while still in my enhancement gear for fun while we wait. The hunter then decides that I'm the healer. Well, the hunter says that the pally should tank. The pally and I both say "but he's healing, we still need a tank." And the hunter goes "WTF?" and drops group. Then the pally goes and it's just me and the DK.
Happy: Just before we're both ready to call it quits, we get a pally tank with ICC10 gear and about 47K hp, a Tier 9 heavy priest and a really good fury warrior, surprisingly, all from different guilds. The run goes off with out a hitch.
Hate: NO MACE!
Amusing: Further experiences with the Cyclone Alliance are... special.
No. People should probably move out of that LoS corner when the mage flamestrikes and the rogue has his way with their mothers
The Shadow bolt volley should just be easy to heal through with a rejuvenation.
Or are you talking about the first event in the sword room? About wave 3, both mercs and mages are going to show up and they like to randomly hit other people.
Happy: Switched my shaman offspec to PVP elemental. I wasn't sure if I would like it, but so far it has actually been quite fun. Nothing quite like thunderstorming people off of the lumber mill, or selfrezzing after I get ganked by a feral cat and rogue and staying up long enough for back to arrive so we don't lose the point.
Overall it has been a lot more fun then I remember PVPing, then again I have gotten some really nice drops out of VoA so my gear isn't atrocious.
Thats what was happening to me. I mean I have badge gear and it's not bad but it's not ICC level for certain. I guess most people don't know to leave the nook after the pull. I will suggest that but I am sure that will be met with lots of "NO! WE DO IT THIS WAY ALL THE TIME U R FAIL" It will be fun. I am looking forward to that.
edit to make sure I understand: you move in and out of the nook between phases. Basically once the mobs are in there the healer and non mele move out and into the room. Is this correct?
That's healer code for, "I wanted to come in here for my free badges and watch TV at the same time, why can't you be ICC25 geared?"
My solution to that as a tank is to LoS them outside the nook. That usually gets the point across. Can't dps if you can't see them.
In fairness as a paladin when I have multiple people playing the same class in different specs asking for different blessings you do eventually get to the point where it's like "NO GODDAMNIT LIVE WITH WHAT I GIVE YOU"
"Sorry there's multiple people here with your class, you're all getting kings."
Only works if you're the only paladin in the raid
If you have two paladins, one of them lucks out and does Kings and the other one has to put up with seven tells asking for short blessings because they are pretty pretty princesses
I swear, the single best thing about Cata is folding Wis/Might into one spell
I was in this position on my pally this weekend. I never could get a decent tank could either stay alive and/or use their abilities effectively.
Had a DK tank this past weekend DnD too early and by the time the mobs came by the DnD was gone but they sure did notice me using sacred shield. They put on me on a pinball machine and had their way with me.
Had to go through 4 tanks and one horrible dps before I got done with that particular HoR.
Hate: All my upgrades in that place are at the end.
"Sorry you're getting sanct/might/wisdom" pick one. I default to sanct because that's 3% damage reduction. If we're wiping because of dps from might or longevity from wisdom, there's something else going on. Plus, shamans and warriors take care of the other two.
Hope: I can convince my friend and my brother to farm ToC normal for the Black Heart and the tanking plate pieces. I don't really want to make stuff that I will be quickly replacing with triumph stuff, and this'd help me towards that.
Hate: Of course this was done right when we are experiencing some attendance problems. Any extremely talented people looking for a mature, close knit guild and have a tank, healer, or dps ready to step into the later 25man ICC hardmodes?
-- Gnome mage enchantress and inscriptionologist... er scribbler --
Worst part is I could actually tank in ICC25. People can be quite lazy sometimes.
I admit watching TV and playing at the same time but it's usualy on the "lower tier" heroics and I always test the waters to see how much attention I have to pay. The ICC instances and any raids get my full attention though. I can't slack those and I sort of like them anyway. They still have that new instance smell for me. Plus the music in FoS is awesome.
Seriously. It's like, you realize people used to do Heroics without Naxx gear, right? Let alone T9??
Nonsense. Heroics did not exist until ICC and unless you have full ICC gear you do not belong in them. You need to gear up before you can run heroics but you can not run heroics to gear up.
Hate: They are Abuse the Ooze (Halls of Stone) and Respect your Elders (Old Kingdom). I can't my friends to form groups for those two long dungeons, even for achievements.
But those two are fast to do and trivial now with gear... Ooze is the last boss of HoS you can just do the gauntlet then do the last boss. is Respect your Elders the first boss one or the kill the last boss before Insanity #2? Still, skipping do the last boss in OK is fast as well.
I sometimes get asked for Wisdom by Warlocks on my Paladin. I just shrug, Wis them up, and keep rolling.
- The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse (2017, colorized)
A geared plate DPS would probably be enough, they stay in the boss' area grabbing all the little adds and AOEing them down while the boss is kited back towards the stairs way out of LOS.
Hate: DPS warriors who taunt off of me on bosses and die, then proceed to insult me. Look, if you want to taunt, fine by me, I'll get my two-hander out and dps for you.
Ha: Questing in Duskwood at 27, got jumped by this goose, thankfully prot pallies are apparently invincible outside of instances because he didn't get my health down past 60% before I killed him.
It's pretty easy. You don't even need to go down the stairs or LOS. Tank takes the boss to one end of the long room you're end, and the off-tank pulls the guardian to the other end. If you have a hunter or a rogue, the healer stands between the two tanks, the DPS AOE misdirects/tricks to the tank, and just burn the boss.