AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Checking my stats I have zero kills with either the CG or M60. I intend to keep it that way.
Edit: I really pegged my K/D ratio back as well. I was at one point due to using the recon from the start (I really wish I had gone with medic when new, Recon was unforgiving) had a .35 K/D ratio. Minding I don't care about K/D ratio, I care about W/L and throw myself on objectives relentless to get them.
Eight rockets with explosives perk. Makes for some delicious anti-vehicle goodness.
You'll never need to care about rockets ever again. Minding I don't use the CG on principle (I think I have a whopping 1 minute with it) and prefer the RPG-7. I imagine most PC engineers do this to make the game as close to quake as possible.
Gotta love how people keep comparing the CG to quake. Yes, it totally spews out rockets while people rocket jump and rain down death.
Most of the complaints are of the fact that it is nasty, IE effective in the right hands. Yes, any idiot can get kills with it, but any smart man who can aim will rape with it...that pisses people right off. Otherwise the guys who miss end up looking stupid while they get plugged in the face.
Edit: Also, got the m60..slapped that on one round and...heh...I'll trade being an ass with that than the carl any day, what a weapon. Thankfully for most though, I'm not hot with the LMG's...for some reason I just want to fire the damn thing like rambo, which doesn't make for accuracy.
Nah my complaint is they/you are so fucking awful at this simple game that you have to dumb it down by using the CG with the explosive damage perk. When you talk about how you rape with it and all, it's like bragging that you rape comatose women. It's, like, multiple levels of nothing to be proud of.
Man, your the last one to talk. But yeah, stats speak for themselves, eh? Besides, you love to bitch and moan and posture, especially when your on the losing end of things...which is often.
Mostly I speak of annoyance, because of the simple fact of hypocrisy of whats allowed, and what isn't. I never said the CG isn't overpowered, I'm just saying it can be overcome. I've played on plenty of pubs where the thing is spammed, and while at times it sucks, it isn't any worse than getting killed by seventeen other things.
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
I dunno, literally half or more of my CG kills came from pub games when the teams were stacked and I didn't really care if the team that had three more guys didn't think it was fun.
And yeah my stats with nearly two platinum stars on the weakest weapon-type in the game sure show what a scrub I am. :j
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
Yeah, your stats show that while you have used the CG a lot you have done most of the work with other guns. So you're hardly the worst CG whorer I've seen and you haven't used the M60 at all!
Unless I'm looking at the wrong Goomba, that could explain your crappy K/D ratio? I'm not sure how much your helping your team by running around with it, but at least your dedicated. Does this make you a good player? Not really.
As for whoring the CG, oh yeah, I got my share of kills from it. But it amounts to 388 of my 2,185 kills. I had about the same K/D ratio before I even used it, and I only *just* got the m60. So, you do the math, eh? I switch between weapons constantly, hence the kill ratio is spread out. That...and I'm a heavy armor expert.
Eight rockets with explosives perk. Makes for some delicious anti-vehicle goodness.
You'll never need to care about rockets ever again. Minding I don't use the CG on principle (I think I have a whopping 1 minute with it) and prefer the RPG-7. I imagine most PC engineers do this to make the game as close to quake as possible.
Gotta love how people keep comparing the CG to quake. Yes, it totally spews out rockets while people rocket jump and rain down death.
Most of the complaints are of the fact that it is nasty, IE effective in the right hands. Yes, any idiot can get kills with it, but any smart man who can aim will rape with it...that pisses people right off. Otherwise the guys who miss end up looking stupid while they get plugged in the face.
Edit: Also, got the m60..slapped that on one round and...heh...I'll trade being an ass with that than the carl any day, what a weapon. Thankfully for most though, I'm not hot with the LMG's...for some reason I just want to fire the damn thing like rambo, which doesn't make for accuracy.
Nah my complaint is they/you are so fucking awful at this simple game that you have to dumb it down by using the CG with the explosive damage perk. When you talk about how you rape with it and all, it's like bragging that you rape comatose women. It's, like, multiple levels of nothing to be proud of.
Man, your the last one to talk. But yeah, stats speak for themselves, eh? Besides, you love to bitch and moan and posture, especially when your on the losing end of things...which is often.
Mostly I speak of annoyance, because of the simple fact of hypocrisy of whats allowed, and what isn't. I never said the CG isn't overpowered, I'm just saying it can be overcome. I've played on plenty of pubs where the thing is spammed, and while at times it sucks, it isn't any worse than getting killed by seventeen other things.
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
I dunno, literally half or more of my CG kills came from pub games when the teams were stacked and I didn't really care if the team that had three more guys didn't think it was fun.
And yeah my stats with nearly two platinum stars on the weakest weapon-type in the game sure show what a scrub I am. :j
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
Yeah, your stats show that while you have used the CG a lot you have done most of the work with other guns. So you're hardly the worst CG whorer I've seen and you haven't used the M60 at all!
Unless I'm looking at the wrong Goomba, that could explain your crappy K/D ratio? I'm not sure how much your helping your team by running around with it, but at least your dedicated. Does this make you a good player? Not really.
As for whoring the CG, oh yeah, I got my share of kills from it. But it amounts to 388 of my 2,185 kills. I had about the same K/D ratio before I even used it, and I only *just* got the m60. So, you do the math, eh? I switch between weapons constantly, hence the kill ratio is spread out. That...and I'm a heavy armor expert.
Well my KDR is bad because I usually don't sit back and snipe and try to actually take objectives and stuff. And don't run around with cheapo weapons as a crutch. Except in pubs when the teams get stacked, like I said.
But you still have over twice as many kills with the CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined. Stats don't lie :V
Checking my stats I have zero kills with either the CG or M60. I intend to keep it that way.
Haha why? Use them, enjoy while you can before they get nerfed, just don't be too abusive, IE like camping sniper spots or spawns, and the like. It's a GAME, enjoy what it offers, because it will get old in either case.
Every BF game has these kinds of things, and coming from playing...oh...about every one of them, you take the good with the bad, use the bad sometimes and enjoy the memorable moments in this game.
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Checking my stats I have zero kills with either the CG or M60. I intend to keep it that way.
Haha why?
Because I'm not a giant fucking hypocrite like some people in this thread. When I say "I think the CG and M60 are giant n00b cannons and I won't use them" I in fact, do not use them. If that means I have to deal with people killing me with a better weapon, I suck it up and play the damn game. When it gets nerfed I will have my revenge on those people who relied on it and suck with weapons that actually take some effort to use.
Eight rockets with explosives perk. Makes for some delicious anti-vehicle goodness.
You'll never need to care about rockets ever again. Minding I don't use the CG on principle (I think I have a whopping 1 minute with it) and prefer the RPG-7. I imagine most PC engineers do this to make the game as close to quake as possible.
Gotta love how people keep comparing the CG to quake. Yes, it totally spews out rockets while people rocket jump and rain down death.
Most of the complaints are of the fact that it is nasty, IE effective in the right hands. Yes, any idiot can get kills with it, but any smart man who can aim will rape with it...that pisses people right off. Otherwise the guys who miss end up looking stupid while they get plugged in the face.
Edit: Also, got the m60..slapped that on one round and...heh...I'll trade being an ass with that than the carl any day, what a weapon. Thankfully for most though, I'm not hot with the LMG's...for some reason I just want to fire the damn thing like rambo, which doesn't make for accuracy.
Nah my complaint is they/you are so fucking awful at this simple game that you have to dumb it down by using the CG with the explosive damage perk. When you talk about how you rape with it and all, it's like bragging that you rape comatose women. It's, like, multiple levels of nothing to be proud of.
Man, your the last one to talk. But yeah, stats speak for themselves, eh? Besides, you love to bitch and moan and posture, especially when your on the losing end of things...which is often.
Mostly I speak of annoyance, because of the simple fact of hypocrisy of whats allowed, and what isn't. I never said the CG isn't overpowered, I'm just saying it can be overcome. I've played on plenty of pubs where the thing is spammed, and while at times it sucks, it isn't any worse than getting killed by seventeen other things.
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
I dunno, literally half or more of my CG kills came from pub games when the teams were stacked and I didn't really care if the team that had three more guys didn't think it was fun.
And yeah my stats with nearly two platinum stars on the weakest weapon-type in the game sure show what a scrub I am. :j
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
Yeah, your stats show that while you have used the CG a lot you have done most of the work with other guns. So you're hardly the worst CG whorer I've seen and you haven't used the M60 at all!
Unless I'm looking at the wrong Goomba, that could explain your crappy K/D ratio? I'm not sure how much your helping your team by running around with it, but at least your dedicated. Does this make you a good player? Not really.
As for whoring the CG, oh yeah, I got my share of kills from it. But it amounts to 388 of my 2,185 kills. I had about the same K/D ratio before I even used it, and I only *just* got the m60. So, you do the math, eh? I switch between weapons constantly, hence the kill ratio is spread out. That...and I'm a heavy armor expert.
Well my KDR is bad because I usually don't sit back and snipe and try to actually take objectives and stuff. And don't run around with cheapo weapons as a crutch. Except in pubs when the teams get stacked, like I said.
But you still have over twice as many kills with the CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined. Stats don't lie :V
Sniping doesn't only give you a good KD ratio, actually being good with tactics, as well as a good shot, makes it happen. I certainly didn't get mine from Sniping, nor from the CG, so...yeah.
Also, if you can't do math, then also, don't point out stats. Yes, I whored the CG a bit, no, it doesn't have double the kills over my vehicle kills, but yes on my weapons because their kills are spread out, since I switch often. Crux of the point is, I killed FAR more people with other weapons overall on a regular basis before I even got there, and after, and *well*. The CG only makes up a fraction of it.
At the very least, I'm far more interested in people playing as a TEAM and doing what their supposed to be doing, rather than what weapon their using.
Man, I wonder how much you would have bitched about the Pilum or Walkers if you played 2142 with us back in the day. Heck..about the planes or choppers in BF2, even.
Anyways, time to move on before the thread is diluged in bickering...we don't need another repeat of Dawn of War 2, do we?
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Eight rockets with explosives perk. Makes for some delicious anti-vehicle goodness.
You'll never need to care about rockets ever again. Minding I don't use the CG on principle (I think I have a whopping 1 minute with it) and prefer the RPG-7. I imagine most PC engineers do this to make the game as close to quake as possible.
Gotta love how people keep comparing the CG to quake. Yes, it totally spews out rockets while people rocket jump and rain down death.
Most of the complaints are of the fact that it is nasty, IE effective in the right hands. Yes, any idiot can get kills with it, but any smart man who can aim will rape with it...that pisses people right off. Otherwise the guys who miss end up looking stupid while they get plugged in the face.
Edit: Also, got the m60..slapped that on one round and...heh...I'll trade being an ass with that than the carl any day, what a weapon. Thankfully for most though, I'm not hot with the LMG's...for some reason I just want to fire the damn thing like rambo, which doesn't make for accuracy.
Nah my complaint is they/you are so fucking awful at this simple game that you have to dumb it down by using the CG with the explosive damage perk. When you talk about how you rape with it and all, it's like bragging that you rape comatose women. It's, like, multiple levels of nothing to be proud of.
Man, your the last one to talk. But yeah, stats speak for themselves, eh? Besides, you love to bitch and moan and posture, especially when your on the losing end of things...which is often.
Mostly I speak of annoyance, because of the simple fact of hypocrisy of whats allowed, and what isn't. I never said the CG isn't overpowered, I'm just saying it can be overcome. I've played on plenty of pubs where the thing is spammed, and while at times it sucks, it isn't any worse than getting killed by seventeen other things.
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
I dunno, literally half or more of my CG kills came from pub games when the teams were stacked and I didn't really care if the team that had three more guys didn't think it was fun.
And yeah my stats with nearly two platinum stars on the weakest weapon-type in the game sure show what a scrub I am. :j
In other words, QUIT BITCHING and play the goddamn game, and take a rocket in the face like a man. Oh wait, don't like that? fine, I'll shoot you just as good with anything else.
Yeah, your stats show that while you have used the CG a lot you have done most of the work with other guns. So you're hardly the worst CG whorer I've seen and you haven't used the M60 at all!
Unless I'm looking at the wrong Goomba, that could explain your crappy K/D ratio? I'm not sure how much your helping your team by running around with it, but at least your dedicated. Does this make you a good player? Not really.
As for whoring the CG, oh yeah, I got my share of kills from it. But it amounts to 388 of my 2,185 kills. I had about the same K/D ratio before I even used it, and I only *just* got the m60. So, you do the math, eh? I switch between weapons constantly, hence the kill ratio is spread out. That...and I'm a heavy armor expert.
Well my KDR is bad because I usually don't sit back and snipe and try to actually take objectives and stuff. And don't run around with cheapo weapons as a crutch. Except in pubs when the teams get stacked, like I said.
But you still have over twice as many kills with the CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined. Stats don't lie :V
Well the CG is the most effective person killing weapon the engineer has. It kinda makes sense.
Even if it gets nerfed it will likely still be the best infantry killing engi weapon.
Gonna respond line by line denoted by numbers. 1. I don't snipe hth 2. tanks aren't engineer weapons and 4/1 is a fraction so technically you are correct 3. I play as a team and I don't see how that makes you whoring the CG any less of a silly goose 4. idk if the general consensus was that using them in a certain way was unfun for the other team and I was a mod-thing on the server then yeah I'd probably tell people not to be d-silly geese with them
Edit: The SCAR-L and PP2000 are great and the rest are just perfectly fine. I don't have four times the kills with CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined.
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edited April 2010
It should be nerfed to not have the ridiculous lethal blast radius it currently does. I think it kills people up to ~4.0m away. Double that of any of the other explosive weapons like the RPG-7.
It should be nerfed to not have the ridiculous lethal blast radius it currently does. I think it kills people up to ~4.0m away. Double that of any of the other explosive weapons like the RPG-7.
It's actually almost 5 meters. With the explosive damage perk, that's increased to over 5.
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It should be nerfed to not have the ridiculous lethal blast radius it currently does. I think it kills people up to ~4.0m away. Double that of any of the other explosive weapons like the RPG-7.
It's actually almost 5 meters. With the explosive damage perk, that's increased to over 5.
No wonder you can clip the front of a tank and kill engineers repairing it behind the vehicle with that thing.
Edit: Nobody can take my RPG-7 away from me though.
Gonna respond line by line denoted by numbers. 1. I don't snipe hth 2. tanks aren't engineer weapons and 4/1 is a fraction so technically you are correct 3. I play as a team and I don't see how that makes you whoring the CG any less of a silly goose 4. idk if the general consensus was that using them in a certain way was unfun for the other team and I was a mod-thing on the server then yeah I'd probably tell people not to be d-silly geese with them
Edit: The SCAR-L and PP2000 are great and the rest are just perfectly fine. I don't have four times the kills with CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined.
You don't snipe? Am I reading the 938 kills on the SV98 and the 617 on the M24 incorrectly then? Because you know, those well exceed double, if not triple the kills on all of your weapons. Unless that's another goomba, of course.
Tanks are weapons, all the same, my good sir. Meant for engineers, to be used at their fullest potential, so I beg to differ. Yes, I whored the CG because I was good with it, and it's an awesome weapon for an engie who lacks in long range firepower. I had fun with it, did I grief with it? Hell no. I didn't spawn camp, or do anything unsavory, last I checked. I just can't stand the bitching about it being unfun, since that could be applied to anything when your getting shot and killed multiple times, eh?
Anyways, as I said, I'm pretty bored with it now, and tired of said bitching, so grats, you have worn down the joy of it for me. Don't blame me when I stab you in the head and call for knife nerfs...those suckers have crappy hit detection anyways.
Now let's go back to the fun parts of the game, with the community I love. :P
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edited April 2010
It isn't hard to be good with the CG. Just point at people and press button.
And I use the gol with a red dot sight as a close in railgun myself.
No see I'm on the front lines with those weapons, sometimes a bit back, which is where the entire thing where I complain about how weak sniper rifles are actually comes from?
Also engineers are no better at driving tanks I'm not sure where you'd get that idea from? They're better if you go lone wolf with them, I guess, until you let the other team take them.
And I doubt you'll stab me very much because it's hard to stab from tanks and you don't seem too hot without the CG backin' you up.
It should be nerfed to not have the ridiculous lethal blast radius it currently does. I think it kills people up to ~4.0m away. Double that of any of the other explosive weapons like the RPG-7.
It's actually almost 5 meters. With the explosive damage perk, that's increased to over 5.
If anything, I'd say that's the biggest component to it's power. They'd have to lower the base blast on it to compensate for the perk, to make it fair. Of course, it's speed would still be an issue for people, but honestly, you would need the speed to compensate for it's lack of armor damage. Take that away, and what would be the point in using it at all?
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Sureeee goomba, Stats don't lie, right? Sure, you never snipe...relying on the sniper rifles, and all.
Also, your math is still obviously flawed. If you want to prod for arguments, by all means, but your opinion is simply that, and a schewed one at that.
Edit: REALLY, let's move on. -,-
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It should be nerfed to not have the ridiculous lethal blast radius it currently does. I think it kills people up to ~4.0m away. Double that of any of the other explosive weapons like the RPG-7.
It's actually almost 5 meters. With the explosive damage perk, that's increased to over 5.
If anything, I'd say that's the biggest component to it's power. They'd have to lower the base blast on it to compensate for the perk, to make it fair. Of course, it's speed would still be an issue for people, but honestly, you would need the speed to compensate for it's lack of armor damage. Take that away, and what would be the point in using it at all?
Easier to aim, larger blast radius, and it only takes one or two shots less to kill a tank while reloading faster, so it's not like it'd be a huge reason to ditch the weapon.
edit: Uh you can't go "nope you're a liar let's move on!" because that's silly. I don't snipe, ask anyone that's played with me. Fuck, I've lead the charge before. I would be and am more effective with ARs but I like bolt actions more, doesn't mean they're balanced. And I'm not sure how my math is wrong (because you never explained how) but whatever.
The way I figure it, every bullet I stop is one that doesn't hit a useful member of my team, so I count them as kills. So if you think about it my K/D ratio is through the roof.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
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Haha I had no idea you could get an achievement for road killing people with the UAV.
It should be nerfed to not have the ridiculous lethal blast radius it currently does. I think it kills people up to ~4.0m away. Double that of any of the other explosive weapons like the RPG-7.
It's actually almost 5 meters. With the explosive damage perk, that's increased to over 5.
If anything, I'd say that's the biggest component to it's power. They'd have to lower the base blast on it to compensate for the perk, to make it fair. Of course, it's speed would still be an issue for people, but honestly, you would need the speed to compensate for it's lack of armor damage. Take that away, and what would be the point in using it at all?
Easier to aim, larger blast radius, and it only takes one or two shots less to kill a tank while reloading faster, so it's not like it'd be a huge reason to ditch the weapon.
edit: Uh you can't go "nope you're a liar let's move on!" because that's silly. I don't snipe, ask anyone that's played with me. Fuck, I've lead the charge before. I would be and am more effective with ARs but I like bolt actions more, doesn't mean they're balanced. And I'm not sure how my math is wrong (because you never explained how) but whatever.
I believe the reload on it is the same as the RPG, last I checked. It takes at least 1-2 hits more to kill a vehicle with it. Why would you use the CG if it couldn't kill infantry well? Granted, the splash radius is insane, but other than that, toning down it's power more would make it outright useless.
...I didn't call you a liar, I was saying your opinion is flawed, since a. other than the odd occassion you rarely play with me b. my stats show I'm proficient in ALL types of weapons. You call me a CG whore, and yet you claim you DON'T snipe with double/triple the kills...hell most of your entire KILL ratio made up of sniper rifle kills.
So, lay off the hypocrisy, thanks.
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The Akaban and the other Russian weapons. It's like the good people at DICE did some research and discovered that the Russian army doesn't use AK-47s anymore and hasn't used it in decades. And that the Russian army likes new rifles like the US army. Unlike some other game(s) that just give the Modern Russian army AK-47s and a bunch of weapons from other countries including the US.
Yeah, Mr. Sunshine, I really like the lack of AK-47 and deagle and other silly weapons that no self-respecting military uses. For the most part (who uses the M9?????).
I believe the reload on it is the same as the RPG, last I checked. It takes at least 1-2 hits more to kill a vehicle with it. Why would you use the CG if it couldn't kill infantry well? Granted, the splash radius is insane, but other than that, toning down it's power more would make it outright useless.
...I didn't call you a liar, I was saying your opinion is flawed, since a. other than the odd occassion you rarely play with me b. my stats show I'm proficient in ALL types of weapons. You call me a CG whore, and yet you claim you DON'T snipe with double/triple the kills...hell most of your entire KILL ratio made up of sniper rifle kills.
So, lay off the hypocrisy, thanks.
You can add faster with the CG than the other rocket launchers. Do people actually watch the full reload cycle of the CG... or any weapon? And yeah, the damage it does is fine, not so much on the radius front.
And I don't snipe, using the sniper rifle doesn't mean you're off fucking mating with some hill 500 meters back. As a recon I use sniper rifles. As assault I use assault rifles. As medic I use LMGs. As engineer, I use SMGs. Also your stats don't show that you're proficient with all weapons, they show you're good with explosives, 40mm and CG, and tanks. When you take all of your primary weapon kills, and I'll even throw in all-kit weapons, and they amount to less than your 40mm or CG kills that tells me that you have a broken leg. I'm not the hypocrite here.
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edited April 2010
God damn I love this game. Just had a squadmate (by himself) hold an objective calmly letting his 3 squadmates (including me) spawn on it. We then proceeded to blow the MCOM easily.
What I normally do is pick the mode I want, hit no empty and no full, and find a server with four or so open spots. Then you have time to check to see if it has the settings you like, like hardcore off and stuff, and join. It works pretty great.
And if it takes a long time, just hit cancel and a list will still show up.
But as far as favorites and stuff go I don't even try.
Yeah, Mr. Sunshine, I really like the lack of AK-47 and deagle and other silly weapons that no self-respecting military uses. For the most part (who uses the M9?????).
I believe the reload on it is the same as the RPG, last I checked. It takes at least 1-2 hits more to kill a vehicle with it. Why would you use the CG if it couldn't kill infantry well? Granted, the splash radius is insane, but other than that, toning down it's power more would make it outright useless.
...I didn't call you a liar, I was saying your opinion is flawed, since a. other than the odd occassion you rarely play with me b. my stats show I'm proficient in ALL types of weapons. You call me a CG whore, and yet you claim you DON'T snipe with double/triple the kills...hell most of your entire KILL ratio made up of sniper rifle kills.
So, lay off the hypocrisy, thanks.
You can add faster with the CG than the other rocket launchers. Do people actually watch the full reload cycle of the CG... or any weapon? And yeah, the damage it does is fine, not so much on the radius front.
And I don't snipe, using the sniper rifle doesn't mean you're off fucking mating with some hill 500 meters back. As a recon I use sniper rifles. As assault I use assault rifles. As medic I use LMGs. As engineer, I use SMGs. Also your stats don't show that you're proficient with all weapons, they show you're good with explosives, 40mm and CG, and tanks. When you take all of your primary weapon kills, and I'll even throw in all-kit weapons, and they amount to less than your 40mm or CG kills that tells me that you have a broken leg. I'm not the hypocrite here.
The add is marginal. It's a 3.48 to a 3.77. Which doesn't amount to much save in the long run...which you either don't have in the first place, or your hitting them with a tracer attached, which in that case your better off with damage. If they removed the splash I believe the CG should have an upped reload rate to compensate, as it's tank killing qualities are not offset by infantry efficiency.
Of course, the fact that's it's any good mainly has to do with the destroyable environments, ironically. This wasn't an issue back in the old days of BF.
So your not humping hills? The only other thing your stats can show me is that you run up and try to one hit wonder people with it, likely from the hip, then whip out the m1911 to finish them off, which is, without a doubt, OP for a pistol.
Really, I *tried* not to take potshots at you, I've just tried to offset the whining complaints about weapons in GENERAL, which the CG ranks up there, obviously. Mostly because they get unhinged.
Mostly it's hilarious, because I've played pretty much every BF out there, and I've ranked within the top couple of hundred players on two of them. That, and I've really not been trying to peck fights about the whole thing.
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The way I figure it, every bullet I stop is one that doesn't hit a useful member of my team, so I count them as kills. So if you think about it my K/D ratio is through the roof.
So your not humping hills? The only other thing your stats can show me is that you run up and try to one hit wonder people with it, likely from the hip, then whip out the m1911 to finish them off, which is, without a doubt, OP for a pistol. Yeah....awesome skills there.
Really, I haven't taken potshots at you.
:slowjerk:
Anyway, what I do is hang out where everyone else does and shoot people from there. So, if you want to act like using a single-shot weapon that only kills people in one hit if you hit a tiny hitbox, or takes multiple times longer to kill people if you don't hit that hitbox, is on the same level as spamming the CG, go ahead. (I also stopped using the M1911 once I realized how cheap it was but whatever, most people don't have a problem with it so I don't care if they use it or not. I go with the Grach or M9 now. I can also kill people with SMGs, ARs, and LMGs which you apparently can't? But that's really neither here nor there.)
I think if we could get organized with 4-5 guys armed w/ rpg7's, and another squad to run protection, there are a lot of mcoms that could be knocked out like nothing.
I don't remember who it was with, but a few hours ago the server was mostly overrun with randoms, with most of them on our side (I believe) on ...Valpraiso? One with the lighthouse that attracts snippeteers. Our little group of PA (engies, assault and I believe there was a medic?) were able to rocket our way all the way through to the last set of mcoms despite pubbies that seemed determined to do nothing useful.
Bunch of recons sniping from OUR SPAWN. really. and they still managed to let our vehicles get stolen. Not that it mattered, we were gettin' rocket happy. rpg7 fo' lyfe and all that.
So your not humping hills? The only other thing your stats can show me is that you run up and try to one hit wonder people with it, likely from the hip, then whip out the m1911 to finish them off, which is, without a doubt, OP for a pistol. Yeah....awesome skills there.
Really, I haven't taken potshots at you.
:slowjerk:
Anyway, what I do is hang out where everyone else does and shoot people from there. So, if you want to act like using a single-shot weapon that only kills people in one hit if you hit a tiny hitbox, or takes multiple times longer to kill people if you don't hit that hitbox, is on the same level as spamming the CG, go ahead. (I also stopped using the M1911 once I realized how cheap it was but whatever, most people don't have a problem with it so I don't care if they use it or not. I go with the Grach or M9 now. I can also kill people with SMGs, ARs, and LMGs which you apparently can't? But that's really neither here nor there.)
Yeah, I gave the same reaction when I said that after the comment, thus why I edited after, to be fair.
It only takes two whole shots to kill someone otherwise with those rifles with a hitbox not quite small from a lot of maps, but even if you did one shot folks from close and/or pop them with the m1911, I wouldn't really care so long as it wasn't spawn camping, or plain griefing. I don't bitch (generally) at others for using OP weapons, wether or not I use them myself. Hell use the CG and M60, knock yourself out, there have been far, far worse things in BF games. Maybe I have too much history with the game, dealing with far worse issues than this. I kill people fine with other weapons, so I'm not sure where the hell you get 'can't' from. I just spread out the use because I switch around builds often, and I got a bent for a few specific things. I could say the same about you outside of sniper rifles, so eh?
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Edit: I really pegged my K/D ratio back as well. I was at one point due to using the recon from the start (I really wish I had gone with medic when new, Recon was unforgiving) had a .35 K/D ratio. Minding I don't care about K/D ratio, I care about W/L and throw myself on objectives relentless to get them.
Unless I'm looking at the wrong Goomba, that could explain your crappy K/D ratio? I'm not sure how much your helping your team by running around with it, but at least your dedicated. Does this make you a good player? Not really.
As for whoring the CG, oh yeah, I got my share of kills from it. But it amounts to 388 of my 2,185 kills. I had about the same K/D ratio before I even used it, and I only *just* got the m60. So, you do the math, eh? I switch between weapons constantly, hence the kill ratio is spread out. That...and I'm a heavy armor expert.
His crappy KD ratio that's higher than yours?
Unless I'm looking at the wrong Goomba, that could explain your crappy K/D ratio? I'm not sure how much your helping your team by running around with it, but at least your dedicated. Does this make you a good player? Not really.
As for whoring the CG, oh yeah, I got my share of kills from it. But it amounts to 388 of my 2,185 kills. I had about the same K/D ratio before I even used it, and I only *just* got the m60. So, you do the math, eh? I switch between weapons constantly, hence the kill ratio is spread out. That...and I'm a heavy armor expert.
Well my KDR is bad because I usually don't sit back and snipe and try to actually take objectives and stuff. And don't run around with cheapo weapons as a crutch. Except in pubs when the teams get stacked, like I said.
But you still have over twice as many kills with the CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined. Stats don't lie :V
Haha why? Use them, enjoy while you can before they get nerfed, just don't be too abusive, IE like camping sniper spots or spawns, and the like. It's a GAME, enjoy what it offers, because it will get old in either case.
Every BF game has these kinds of things, and coming from playing...oh...about every one of them, you take the good with the bad, use the bad sometimes and enjoy the memorable moments in this game.
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Because I'm not a giant fucking hypocrite like some people in this thread. When I say "I think the CG and M60 are giant n00b cannons and I won't use them" I in fact, do not use them. If that means I have to deal with people killing me with a better weapon, I suck it up and play the damn game. When it gets nerfed I will have my revenge on those people who relied on it and suck with weapons that actually take some effort to use.
Edit: Yep, was looking at wrong profile. Doh!
But you still have over twice as many kills with the CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined. Stats don't lie :V
Sniping doesn't only give you a good KD ratio, actually being good with tactics, as well as a good shot, makes it happen. I certainly didn't get mine from Sniping, nor from the CG, so...yeah.
Also, if you can't do math, then also, don't point out stats. Yes, I whored the CG a bit, no, it doesn't have double the kills over my vehicle kills, but yes on my weapons because their kills are spread out, since I switch often. Crux of the point is, I killed FAR more people with other weapons overall on a regular basis before I even got there, and after, and *well*. The CG only makes up a fraction of it.
At the very least, I'm far more interested in people playing as a TEAM and doing what their supposed to be doing, rather than what weapon their using.
Man, I wonder how much you would have bitched about the Pilum or Walkers if you played 2142 with us back in the day. Heck..about the planes or choppers in BF2, even.
Anyways, time to move on before the thread is diluged in bickering...we don't need another repeat of Dawn of War 2, do we?
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But you still have over twice as many kills with the CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined. Stats don't lie :V
Well the CG is the most effective person killing weapon the engineer has. It kinda makes sense.
Even if it gets nerfed it will likely still be the best infantry killing engi weapon.
Edit: The SCAR-L and PP2000 are great and the rest are just perfectly fine. I don't have four times the kills with CG as all of the other engineer weapons combined.
It's actually almost 5 meters. With the explosive damage perk, that's increased to over 5.
No wonder you can clip the front of a tank and kill engineers repairing it behind the vehicle with that thing.
Edit: Nobody can take my RPG-7 away from me though.
AT4s in 8!
Stationary AT in 6!
This is as dumb as tank sniping but apparently that's cool so,
!
(I'd prefer people not do this but it's up to Salad and omfgmyass)
You don't snipe? Am I reading the 938 kills on the SV98 and the 617 on the M24 incorrectly then? Because you know, those well exceed double, if not triple the kills on all of your weapons. Unless that's another goomba, of course.
Tanks are weapons, all the same, my good sir. Meant for engineers, to be used at their fullest potential, so I beg to differ. Yes, I whored the CG because I was good with it, and it's an awesome weapon for an engie who lacks in long range firepower. I had fun with it, did I grief with it? Hell no. I didn't spawn camp, or do anything unsavory, last I checked. I just can't stand the bitching about it being unfun, since that could be applied to anything when your getting shot and killed multiple times, eh?
Anyways, as I said, I'm pretty bored with it now, and tired of said bitching, so grats, you have worn down the joy of it for me. Don't blame me when I stab you in the head and call for knife nerfs...those suckers have crappy hit detection anyways.
Now let's go back to the fun parts of the game, with the community I love. :P
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And I use the gol with a red dot sight as a close in railgun myself.
Also engineers are no better at driving tanks I'm not sure where you'd get that idea from? They're better if you go lone wolf with them, I guess, until you let the other team take them.
And I doubt you'll stab me very much because it's hard to stab from tanks and you don't seem too hot without the CG backin' you up.
If anything, I'd say that's the biggest component to it's power. They'd have to lower the base blast on it to compensate for the perk, to make it fair. Of course, it's speed would still be an issue for people, but honestly, you would need the speed to compensate for it's lack of armor damage. Take that away, and what would be the point in using it at all?
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Also, your math is still obviously flawed. If you want to prod for arguments, by all means, but your opinion is simply that, and a schewed one at that.
Edit: REALLY, let's move on. -,-
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edit: Uh you can't go "nope you're a liar let's move on!" because that's silly. I don't snipe, ask anyone that's played with me. Fuck, I've lead the charge before. I would be and am more effective with ARs but I like bolt actions more, doesn't mean they're balanced. And I'm not sure how my math is wrong (because you never explained how) but whatever.
I believe the reload on it is the same as the RPG, last I checked. It takes at least 1-2 hits more to kill a vehicle with it. Why would you use the CG if it couldn't kill infantry well? Granted, the splash radius is insane, but other than that, toning down it's power more would make it outright useless.
...I didn't call you a liar, I was saying your opinion is flawed, since a. other than the odd occassion you rarely play with me b. my stats show I'm proficient in ALL types of weapons. You call me a CG whore, and yet you claim you DON'T snipe with double/triple the kills...hell most of your entire KILL ratio made up of sniper rifle kills.
So, lay off the hypocrisy, thanks.
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The Akaban and the other Russian weapons. It's like the good people at DICE did some research and discovered that the Russian army doesn't use AK-47s anymore and hasn't used it in decades. And that the Russian army likes new rifles like the US army. Unlike some other game(s) that just give the Modern Russian army AK-47s and a bunch of weapons from other countries including the US.
40% of my kills are from the 870
next is like 10% from the M191
You can add faster with the CG than the other rocket launchers. Do people actually watch the full reload cycle of the CG... or any weapon? And yeah, the damage it does is fine, not so much on the radius front.
And I don't snipe, using the sniper rifle doesn't mean you're off fucking mating with some hill 500 meters back. As a recon I use sniper rifles. As assault I use assault rifles. As medic I use LMGs. As engineer, I use SMGs. Also your stats don't show that you're proficient with all weapons, they show you're good with explosives, 40mm and CG, and tanks. When you take all of your primary weapon kills, and I'll even throw in all-kit weapons, and they amount to less than your 40mm or CG kills that tells me that you have a broken leg. I'm not the hypocrite here.
What an effort from him.
And if it takes a long time, just hit cancel and a list will still show up.
But as far as favorites and stuff go I don't even try.
And I don't snipe, using the sniper rifle doesn't mean you're off fucking mating with some hill 500 meters back. As a recon I use sniper rifles. As assault I use assault rifles. As medic I use LMGs. As engineer, I use SMGs. Also your stats don't show that you're proficient with all weapons, they show you're good with explosives, 40mm and CG, and tanks. When you take all of your primary weapon kills, and I'll even throw in all-kit weapons, and they amount to less than your 40mm or CG kills that tells me that you have a broken leg. I'm not the hypocrite here.
The add is marginal. It's a 3.48 to a 3.77. Which doesn't amount to much save in the long run...which you either don't have in the first place, or your hitting them with a tracer attached, which in that case your better off with damage. If they removed the splash I believe the CG should have an upped reload rate to compensate, as it's tank killing qualities are not offset by infantry efficiency.
Of course, the fact that's it's any good mainly has to do with the destroyable environments, ironically. This wasn't an issue back in the old days of BF.
So your not humping hills? The only other thing your stats can show me is that you run up and try to one hit wonder people with it, likely from the hip, then whip out the m1911 to finish them off, which is, without a doubt, OP for a pistol.
Really, I *tried* not to take potshots at you, I've just tried to offset the whining complaints about weapons in GENERAL, which the CG ranks up there, obviously. Mostly because they get unhinged.
Mostly it's hilarious, because I've played pretty much every BF out there, and I've ranked within the top couple of hundred players on two of them. That, and I've really not been trying to peck fights about the whole thing.
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Its the only thing more annoying than the CG.
I have a strong urge to hug you.
Speaking of, I don't one-shot people unless they run up to me, and even if I did having a 1.00+ KDR by doing that would be fucking amazing. Also, :slowjerk:
Anyway, what I do is hang out where everyone else does and shoot people from there. So, if you want to act like using a single-shot weapon that only kills people in one hit if you hit a tiny hitbox, or takes multiple times longer to kill people if you don't hit that hitbox, is on the same level as spamming the CG, go ahead. (I also stopped using the M1911 once I realized how cheap it was but whatever, most people don't have a problem with it so I don't care if they use it or not. I go with the Grach or M9 now. I can also kill people with SMGs, ARs, and LMGs which you apparently can't? But that's really neither here nor there.)
I don't remember who it was with, but a few hours ago the server was mostly overrun with randoms, with most of them on our side (I believe) on ...Valpraiso? One with the lighthouse that attracts snippeteers. Our little group of PA (engies, assault and I believe there was a medic?) were able to rocket our way all the way through to the last set of mcoms despite pubbies that seemed determined to do nothing useful.
Bunch of recons sniping from OUR SPAWN. really. and they still managed to let our vehicles get stolen. Not that it mattered, we were gettin' rocket happy. rpg7 fo' lyfe and all that.
(don't do this or tank snipe I mean you can but don't)
Anyway, what I do is hang out where everyone else does and shoot people from there. So, if you want to act like using a single-shot weapon that only kills people in one hit if you hit a tiny hitbox, or takes multiple times longer to kill people if you don't hit that hitbox, is on the same level as spamming the CG, go ahead. (I also stopped using the M1911 once I realized how cheap it was but whatever, most people don't have a problem with it so I don't care if they use it or not. I go with the Grach or M9 now. I can also kill people with SMGs, ARs, and LMGs which you apparently can't? But that's really neither here nor there.)
Yeah, I gave the same reaction when I said that after the comment, thus why I edited after, to be fair.
It only takes two whole shots to kill someone otherwise with those rifles with a hitbox not quite small from a lot of maps, but even if you did one shot folks from close and/or pop them with the m1911, I wouldn't really care so long as it wasn't spawn camping, or plain griefing. I don't bitch (generally) at others for using OP weapons, wether or not I use them myself. Hell use the CG and M60, knock yourself out, there have been far, far worse things in BF games. Maybe I have too much history with the game, dealing with far worse issues than this. I kill people fine with other weapons, so I'm not sure where the hell you get 'can't' from. I just spread out the use because I switch around builds often, and I got a bent for a few specific things. I could say the same about you outside of sniper rifles, so eh?
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