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The Tangentially-Related Comic Thread: Girls, Games, and Girls in Games

VixxVixx Valkyrie: prepared!Registered User regular
edited April 2010 in Social Entropy++
http://forums.penny-arcade.com/showthread.php?t=115986

By request from Orikae, the discussion of female characters in games has shifted to a new thread. It's an overall fascinating topic.

Strongly encourage you read at least from page 4 in the New Comic Thread for context as the conversations will be continuing from there.

Though now of course that we are forced to discuss this outside the new comic thread, all the girls in this thread will be accused of being silly geese who love attention.

Yup. I went there.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    video games are a male-dominated hobby

    the only way you are going to get more respectable female leads are to rise as one and slay your male oppressors

    I say bring it the fuck on

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    brb, getting my katana

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  • pillowpillow Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I probably like half life 2 so much because of alyx.

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    The video game industry is a phallocracy

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2010
    Girls suck at videogames!

    Always using the rocket-launchers, tsk tsk...

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Viv I will out attention whore you, you don't even know

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bogey wrote: »
    Girls suck at videogames!

    only when it's an Xbox controller and I have a goddamned audience!

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I was wondering this, but didn't really wanna ask in the new comic thread, but doesn't this complaint apply to pretty much the entirety of the action movie genre?

    Why is such a big deal made about video games in particular?

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    this is bullshit next the government will be requiring me to have female checkers pieces!

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Radius wrote: »
    I was wondering this, but didn't really wanna ask in the new comic thread, but doesn't this complaint apply to pretty much the entirety of the action movie genre?

    Why is such a big deal made about video games in particular?

    action movies are a genre of movies

    video games are an entire medium

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  • nateknatek unh unh Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I played counterstrike with an all girl clan for a good chunk of a year

    it was alright

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Oh yeah, action movies, comics, video games, TV, etc.

    It's probably coming up right now specifically in video games because this is a video game forum

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    Bogey wrote: »
    Girls suck at videogames!

    only when it's an Xbox controller and I have a goddamned audience!
    Look, just go stand over there and be a good meat-shield, ok?

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Radius wrote: »
    I was wondering this, but didn't really wanna ask in the new comic thread, but doesn't this complaint apply to pretty much the entirety of the action movie genre?

    Why is such a big deal made about video games in particular?

    wait

    you're comparing a particular genre in film with video games as an entire medium? and you don't see a disparity in that comparison?

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  • AbracadanielAbracadaniel Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Usagi wrote: »
    Bogey wrote: »
    Girls suck at videogames!

    only when it's an Xbox controller and I have a goddamned audience!

    I didn't want to say anything

    but man

    "Holy shit Jess can't xbox for shit"

    Might have flashed through my brain for a second or two

    <3

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Bogey wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Bogey wrote: »
    Girls suck at videogames!

    only when it's an Xbox controller and I have a goddamned audience!
    Look, just go stand over there and be a good meat-shield, ok?

    my..meat gets though her..shields all the time?

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  • lostwordslostwords Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I am playing Alice in Wonderland on the DS while watching America's Next Top Model right now

    am i a girl gamer yet?

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  • pillowpillow Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    there's a lesbian girls who game article every week or so on afterellen.com

    I don't know if "for girls who love strappin on a joystick" is their motto but it should be

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    there is an entire subgenre of action films dedicated to female leads though.

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2010
    Oh my God!

    I forgot to write in my PAX Journal how really really weird it was to see like the 3rd or 4th generation of the Frag Dolls in Boston.

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  • Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    man

    What was the discussion even about?

    You can't really generalize girls or girl gamers. It's a case-by-case situation. Some girls are going to like games! Some are not!

    Shockingly, it is also possible to be in a relationship with a girl who doesn't really like games while you do. You just have to be adults about it.

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Smart Hero wrote: »
    Usagi wrote: »
    Bogey wrote: »
    Girls suck at videogames!

    only when it's an Xbox controller and I have a goddamned audience!

    I didn't want to say anything

    but man

    "Holy shit Jess can't xbox for shit"

    Might have flashed through my brain for a second or two

    <3

    I did try to disclaimer that I'm terrible at that sort of view-orientation controlling, but no worries

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bogey wanted me to be his wingman to go hit on the Fragdolls.

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Druhim wrote: »
    Radius wrote: »
    I was wondering this, but didn't really wanna ask in the new comic thread, but doesn't this complaint apply to pretty much the entirety of the action movie genre?

    Why is such a big deal made about video games in particular?

    wait

    you're comparing a particular genre in film with video games as an entire medium? and you don't see a disparity in that comparison?

    Since the majority of the disparity is really relegated to action games, fps'es, and the like, then yeah, I see comparing action movies as adequate. Games that would fall into any other genre would make up the minority in this argument.

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    let's list some strong female leads

    cooking mama

    Jillian Michaels

    um... gardening mama

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  • redheadredhead Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    could someone specify for me what exactly is being complained about? like what does "this complaint" refer to in radius' post

    not trying to be a dick, it's just that in this particular thread it hasn't been directly stated so far. is it the "there are very few strong female leads in video games" thing?

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Bogey wanted me to be his wingman to go hit on the Fragdolls.

    that's sexist!

    wait, no it's sexy!

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2010
    lostwords wrote: »
    I am playing Alice in Wonderland on the DS while watching America's Next Top Model right now

    am i a girl gamer yet?
    You still need a couple more Achievements but you're almost there! :^:

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Balefuego wrote: »
    there is an entire subgenre of action films dedicated to female leads though.

    Are... are they good? Isn't part of the complaint that the females that do exist are just oversexualized stereotypes?

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  • YoSoyTheWalrusYoSoyTheWalrus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Shockingly, it is also possible to be in a relationship with a girl who doesn't really like games while you do. You just have to be adults about it.

    This is not true. Everyone must like the same things at all times or they will hate each other.

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  • DoobhDoobh She/Her, Ace Pan/Bisexual 8-) What's up, bootlickers?Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Faith from Mirrors Edge is probably my favorite example of a well done female character. Not hyper-sexualized, doing whatever a spider man can do, etc.

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    also it cracks me up that blackheart is still trumpeting his "victory" in the new comic thread

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited April 2010
    girl characters in games

    yes

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    redhead wrote: »
    could someone specify for me what exactly is being complained about? like what does "this complaint" refer to in radius' post

    not trying to be a dick, it's just that in this particular thread it hasn't been directly stated so far. is it the "there are very few strong female leads in video games" thing?

    That's a good a place to start as any, I suppose

    I think we were also talking about focused marketing of video games to dudes

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  • Black_HeartBlack_Heart Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    video games are a male-dominated hobby

    the only way you are going to get more respectable female leads are to rise as one and slay your male oppressors

    I say bring it the fuck on

    I agree with Kuribo's Shoe for the most part.

    Video games are dominated by and focused around men.

    If females want EQUAL treatment, then they must contribute to and play games equally..... which they do not.

    Does this mean there is NO recourse or options for women in "hardcore games"?

    No, there are plenty of options for them in lots of games... if you aren't aware of any... perhaps you should play more video games.

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    bongi wrote: »
    girl characters in games

    yes

    we know you would exterminate them if you could bongi

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  • BogeyBogey I'm back, baby! Santa Monica, CAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2010
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Bogey wanted me to be his wingman to go hit on the Fragdolls.
    Really? Really?!

    This is what you're going to go with? :P

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  • Kuribo's ShoeKuribo's Shoe Kuribo's Stocking North PoleRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    video games are a male-dominated hobby

    the only way you are going to get more respectable female leads are to rise as one and slay your male oppressors

    I say bring it the fuck on

    I agree with Kuribo's Shoe for the most part.

    Video games are dominated by and focused around men.

    If females want EQUAL treatment, then they must contribute and play games equally..... which they do not.

    Does this mean there is NO recourse or options for women in "hardcore games"?

    No, there are plenty of options for them in lots of games... if you aren't aware of any... perhaps you should play more video games.

    man don't agree with me now I look stupid thanks a lot

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  • DruhimDruhim Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    I'm sorry blackheart but it seems you've confused us with G&T and we don't cotton to your bullshit arguments here

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  • UsagiUsagi Nah Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Dubh wrote: »
    Faith from Mirrors Edge is probably my favorite example of a well done female character. Not hyper-sexualized, doing whatever a spider man can do, etc.

    also Chell in Portal, though that was pretty much a gender neutral game

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