And what's a fair wage for a good vector artist, working no more than 40 hours a week for one month? More importantly, how can I even tell if an artist has worked his hours? I need some kind of Hiring People Online for dummies book
And what's a fair wage for a good vector artist, working no more than 40 hours a week for one month? More importantly, how can I even tell if an artist has worked his hours? I need some kind of Hiring People Online for dummies book
i typically charge hourly
because i find the edits are so unpredictable and it's hard to work out an edits fee.
as far as tracking it, i keep a record of all the work i did at what times.
there are some online trackers, but they're subscription based.
also i do lots of vector stuff
and i've done work for numerous games/gaming companies including ea sports and valve software and some iphone apps. http://www.beavotron.com
better!
he had a bit more diarrheas today
but it's more like pudding again, just sort of... not quite a log, but definitely not liquid. we stopped him from eating for 24 hours, giving him only water
he's still really energetic and hungry so i figure we're okay for now.
still monitoring him closely
if it keeps up, it'll be to the vet tomorrow.
i can't thank you enough for the peace of mind tynic, it enabled me to finally calm down and go to sleep
i'm like a hypochondriac crazy person
i feel sorry for my future children.
Just get an apartment next door to an emergency department. The doctors will love you!
edit: I once called a cardiologist (family friend) because my dog had eaten a bunch of rat poison and he was the only medical expert I could think of on a Sunday night.
Skimming through the reviews of that book, it looks like it doesn't account for inflation. God damn!
I never know what to pay an artist. I mean how could you put a price on art?
The book doesn't really account for inflation, true, but new editions are released periodically. It also gives a lot of information on whats kosher, whats not, and really the structure of dealing with artists contractually on the whole.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if you want someone at your beck and call for a month for 40 hours a week, then thats as much as full time job. With that amount of work, you better be paying them enough they can buy food, pay rent, pay loans, pay for healthcare, car insurance, etc etc.
Then, on top of that, you should probably pay more than if it was salaried work. With freelance, the artist might have to support themselves for the next month on what you pay them as well.
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Don't feed your dog onions! Apparently they are really bad for dogs!
Apparently.
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I'm sorry, but I care more about my dog than I do about children.
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Well yeah.
If you throw kittens out of an airplane they'll survive.
Babies won't.
So it makes much more sense to go to a Kitten Shower. Less mess to clean up too.
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Dogs are superior to cats in every way.
SU PER I OR
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I'm going to a starcraft event and getting a beta key this weekend.
I can't wait to crush Cake and his smug face.
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I am a bad person. Skipped my class on Thursday, because it bores me. Skipped my class today, because I didn't get the work done from this weekend that I was supposed to. I goofed off the whole time. I'm probably going to skip presenting my independent stuff to one of my professor's classes tonight because I can't rush the drawings and make them look good.
I have decided, however, that I am going to work all of tonight to get it completed by tomorrow, because I have class with that professor then.
School fail :C
Maybe it's horrible senioritis or something, but I've experienced an unusual overwhelming feeling of apathy towards getting my work done. Even stuff for my independent study, which is entirely self-directed. How could I not do that work? I keep thinking "I can't wait for the summer" because I feel like I won't be under as much pressure, and can enjoy myself, and work on my portfolio and be more relaxed about it. It's even gone to the point where I'm afraid to send out my portfolio this upcoming month, and have considered lying to everybody and saying "oh yeah, I've sent it out" when really, I'm just waiting for the summer to send it. I can't figure out why I'm thinking like this, but I'm trying to push through it, because I know the worst that would happen would be...I don't get a job................and then I just keep working on my portfolio, improving it, and sending it out some more. Why's this so hard for me to grasp?? grr. :?
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Senioritis is a hell of a thing.
There comes a point in everyone's life where they are tired of going to school and just want to go out and start their career.
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I am a bad person. Skipped my class on Thursday, because it bores me. Skipped my class today, because I didn't get the work done from this weekend that I was supposed to. I goofed off the whole time. I'm probably going to skip presenting my independent stuff to one of my professor's classes tonight because I can't rush the drawings and make them look good.
I have decided, however, that I am going to work all of tonight to get it completed by tomorrow, because I have class with that professor then.
School fail :C
Maybe it's horrible senioritis or something, but I've experienced an unusual overwhelming feeling of apathy towards getting my work done. Even stuff for my independent study, which is entirely self-directed. How could I not do that work? I keep thinking "I can't wait for the summer" because I feel like I won't be under as much pressure, and can enjoy myself, and work on my portfolio and be more relaxed about it. It's even gone to the point where I'm afraid to send out my portfolio this upcoming month, and have considered lying to everybody and saying "oh yeah, I've sent it out" when really, I'm just waiting for the summer to send it. I can't figure out why I'm thinking like this, but I'm trying to push through it, because I know the worst that would happen would be...I don't get a job................and then I just keep working on my portfolio, improving it, and sending it out some more. Why's this so hard for me to grasp?? grr. :?
Once you finally graduate you are going to realize that pressure is something you put on yourself. There really isn't any reason you shouldn't be relaxed about working on your portfolio now.
There comes a point in everyone's life where they are tired of going to school and just want to go out and start their career.
I've wanted that since I was in the 8th grade hahaha. :P
It's just funny to me that "working now = job later", and yet while knowing this, all I seem to want to do is play videogames and watch HULU and play with the cat and go for a walk and go window shopping and sleep and drink beer and hang out with people and generally just avoid every responsibility I have. Tis an enigma, 'tis.
I am a bad person. Skipped my class on Thursday, because it bores me. Skipped my class today, because I didn't get the work done from this weekend that I was supposed to. I goofed off the whole time. I'm probably going to skip presenting my independent stuff to one of my professor's classes tonight because I can't rush the drawings and make them look good.
I have decided, however, that I am going to work all of tonight to get it completed by tomorrow, because I have class with that professor then.
School fail :C
Maybe it's horrible senioritis or something, but I've experienced an unusual overwhelming feeling of apathy towards getting my work done. Even stuff for my independent study, which is entirely self-directed. How could I not do that work? I keep thinking "I can't wait for the summer" because I feel like I won't be under as much pressure, and can enjoy myself, and work on my portfolio and be more relaxed about it. It's even gone to the point where I'm afraid to send out my portfolio this upcoming month, and have considered lying to everybody and saying "oh yeah, I've sent it out" when really, I'm just waiting for the summer to send it. I can't figure out why I'm thinking like this, but I'm trying to push through it, because I know the worst that would happen would be...I don't get a job................and then I just keep working on my portfolio, improving it, and sending it out some more. Why's this so hard for me to grasp?? grr. :?
Once you finally graduate you are going to realize that pressure is something you put on yourself. There really isn't any reason you shouldn't be relaxed about working on your portfolio now.
haha, i know right, you cant tell someone that, they just have to wait and see. it's like when my dad told me to be nice to the girls when i was 8 years old, because i might like them better one day.
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Regardless, on something of a project of that size, you should negotiate a project fee rather than an hourly fee. Or price per illustration etc.
I never know what to pay an artist. I mean how could you put a price on art?
because i find the edits are so unpredictable and it's hard to work out an edits fee.
as far as tracking it, i keep a record of all the work i did at what times.
there are some online trackers, but they're subscription based.
also i do lots of vector stuff
and i've done work for numerous games/gaming companies including ea sports and valve software and some iphone apps.
http://www.beavotron.com
he had a bit more diarrheas today
but it's more like pudding again, just sort of... not quite a log, but definitely not liquid. we stopped him from eating for 24 hours, giving him only water
he's still really energetic and hungry so i figure we're okay for now.
still monitoring him closely
if it keeps up, it'll be to the vet tomorrow.
i can't thank you enough for the peace of mind tynic, it enabled me to finally calm down and go to sleep
i'm like a hypochondriac crazy person
i feel sorry for my future children.
edit: I once called a cardiologist (family friend) because my dog had eaten a bunch of rat poison and he was the only medical expert I could think of on a Sunday night.
My dog ate the stupidest crap.
The book doesn't really account for inflation, true, but new editions are released periodically. It also gives a lot of information on whats kosher, whats not, and really the structure of dealing with artists contractually on the whole.
Another thing to keep in mind is that if you want someone at your beck and call for a month for 40 hours a week, then thats as much as full time job. With that amount of work, you better be paying them enough they can buy food, pay rent, pay loans, pay for healthcare, car insurance, etc etc.
Then, on top of that, you should probably pay more than if it was salaried work. With freelance, the artist might have to support themselves for the next month on what you pay them as well.
Apparently.
I am mega glad your adorable puppy-face is ok Beavs.
However, if it were a KITTEN SHOWER? I'd be there.
If you throw kittens out of an airplane they'll survive.
Babies won't.
So it makes much more sense to go to a Kitten Shower. Less mess to clean up too.
edit:
d'aaw
Kitten Bath is pretty cute, HOWEVER
SU PER I OR
Was that supposed to be some kind of thing?
That's adorable.
I can't wait to crush Cake and his smug face.
They are called syllables.
EDIT: Cake's face isn't very smug! I don't think. Not in starcraft as much.
I have decided, however, that I am going to work all of tonight to get it completed by tomorrow, because I have class with that professor then.
School fail :C
Maybe it's horrible senioritis or something, but I've experienced an unusual overwhelming feeling of apathy towards getting my work done. Even stuff for my independent study, which is entirely self-directed. How could I not do that work? I keep thinking "I can't wait for the summer" because I feel like I won't be under as much pressure, and can enjoy myself, and work on my portfolio and be more relaxed about it. It's even gone to the point where I'm afraid to send out my portfolio this upcoming month, and have considered lying to everybody and saying "oh yeah, I've sent it out" when really, I'm just waiting for the summer to send it. I can't figure out why I'm thinking like this, but I'm trying to push through it, because I know the worst that would happen would be...I don't get a job................and then I just keep working on my portfolio, improving it, and sending it out some more. Why's this so hard for me to grasp?? grr. :?
There comes a point in everyone's life where they are tired of going to school and just want to go out and start their career.
Also this is damn good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOCaLPAVK0Q
Once you finally graduate you are going to realize that pressure is something you put on yourself. There really isn't any reason you shouldn't be relaxed about working on your portfolio now.
I've wanted that since I was in the 8th grade hahaha. :P
It's just funny to me that "working now = job later", and yet while knowing this, all I seem to want to do is play videogames and watch HULU and play with the cat and go for a walk and go window shopping and sleep and drink beer and hang out with people and generally just avoid every responsibility I have. Tis an enigma, 'tis.
Buddy, i've been saying this for months now.
It's not gonna change a thing.
i still think he was full of shit, but we'll see.
Drinks are on me next time you swing by Toronto.
Yo yo, what if school is my career???
Yo bro, I got it, the goal of art is to be as obtuse and devoid of imagination yet technically proficient as possible!