MetalbourneInside a cluster b personalityRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Dude if I were in the audience at an Oprah Winfrey show, I'd scream that as she came out onto the stage.
I realize that I may very well die for doing that unless i come up with an escape plan, like swinging away on a chandelier or something, but it will strike a blow for everyone everywhere. Except for Oprah fans, of course.
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I don't mind people spending money on video games (obviously), but spending $25 on a single model in a video game (and not even a particularly good looking one at that) when you could put that towards half of a brand new game, or 3 whole games that are a couple years old off of Steam, is just...I just don't understand.
I hope this doesn't catch on for non-MMO games (that is, games I'd actually like to play), because just doing the basic math, if Half-Life 2 had charged that much for each character/enemy model, it would have cost roughly $750.
Economics!
Think back to the original posterchild of micro-transactions: the armor for the horse in Oblivion!
It already exists. These things are labeled as 'luxury goods' though. You're not going to be finding other companies charging 20 bucks for basic character models.
This post would have more explanation, but I can barely keep my eyelids open right now.
Stupid class. Stupid sleep.
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Think back to the original posterchild of micro-transactions: the armor for the horse in Oblivion!
It already exists. These things are labeled as 'luxury goods' though. You're not going to be finding other companies charging 20 bucks for basic character models.
This post would have more explanation, but I can barely keep my eyelids open right now.
Stupid class. Stupid sleep.
So I'm ok as long as I don't buy any games with a horse in it from now on?
unless i come up with an escape plan, like swinging away on a chandelier or something, but it will strike a blow for everyone everywhere.
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staring Tom Green
You have a knack for talking sense into a guy
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Munkus BeaverYou don't have to attend every argument you are invited to.Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPAregular
Think back to the original posterchild of micro-transactions: the armor for the horse in Oblivion!
It already exists. These things are labeled as 'luxury goods' though. You're not going to be finding other companies charging 20 bucks for basic character models.
This post would have more explanation, but I can barely keep my eyelids open right now.
Stupid class. Stupid sleep.
So I'm ok as long as I don't buy any games with a horse in it from now on?
That is an acceptable moral.
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MetalbourneInside a cluster b personalityRegistered Userregular
Think back to the original posterchild of micro-transactions: the armor for the horse in Oblivion!
It already exists. These things are labeled as 'luxury goods' though. You're not going to be finding other companies charging 20 bucks for basic character models.
This post would have more explanation, but I can barely keep my eyelids open right now.
Stupid class. Stupid sleep.
So I'm ok as long as I don't buy any games with a horse in it from now on?
I think a better alternative would be to just not blow your money on stupid shit.
I love it when people have a conversation with someone, then they tell someone else what went down and they totally change the tone to make themselves seem more dominant.
I think I can relate, who says virtually real stuff isn't better than real real stuff... Except I can't touch it and I have to start up both my computer and a program every time I want to see it.
But I guess when you're playing the game a lot It'd make sense to sit on something that glows
But I could never buy something like that, I like real stuff a lot more.
I feel the same way about digital art and making it, I've gone more back to making non-digital art because I can take a look at it any time I want and because it's a lot more... Real? There's just something better about real stuff, I only take to video games because there's stuff that I can't get in the real world ( at least not without dying from it)
that's where the big money is right there, is designing something once that can be sold over and over again.
No, the big money is being the guy that owns the company that hired the guy who designed something once, and then another guy it hired that decided that it could be sold over and over again, because another guy it hired did market research suggesting their customers have more money than sense.
The modeler of that horse might get an Employee of the Month sticker or something.
that's where the big money is right there, is designing something once that can be sold over and over again.
No, the big money is being the guy that owns the company that hired the guy who designed something once, and then another guy it hired that decided that it could be sold over and over again, because another guy it hired did market research suggesting their customers have more money than sense.
The modeler of that horse might get an Employee of the Month sticker or something.
Just trying to crush any lingering fantasies you might have of being rewarded for your work.
Nobody said anything about anyone being rewarded for their work. Everyone knows that if you draw a paycheck in this country you're pretty much being fucked as a matter of routine.
No, instead I was remarking on the simple economic principle of designing something that can be sold multiple times, like a glowy horse, a timeshare, or the brooklyn bridge.
Thanks guys. My grandpa has been in ill health, but we didn't think it was this bad. I had planned on spending a few weeks with him after I graduate, as I've been too busy to make the trip up there since I've been in school. It's just hard to think that I may not even have that long to see him.
try and keep your chin up forbe, I had to deal with the same thing with my grandma this past fall *hugs*
on a different note, i'm trying to score a job as an environmental artist at a local gaming company and i'm putting together my portfolio site. Is there like, a magic number of portfolio pieces that I should have? I am splitting my work into 4 categories, Paintings, Illustration, design and photography, but after that I'm not sure what I should do.
Forbe, I'm really sorry about your situation, I hope you get to spend sometime with him, but don't beat yourself up about being in school.
Obs, from what I understand, You're strongest work is what you want. 5 awesome works is better than 5 awesome and 5 more weaker works. You don't want to pad it, just pick the creme of the crop.
My roomates have been "leaving" for an hour and a half now, which I guess consists of yelling/squealing with each other while they put on make up. I was fucking stoked to take a nap and now I just want to strangle bitches. I'm looking forward to living alone.
Speaking of naps, I really need to get on an actual sleep schedule and stick to it, because right now I'm all over the place. I remember sleeping 6pm-9pm yesterday, and I feel I might have slept some more after that, but I can't remember if I actually did or just thought about it really hard, because I don't remember waking up again. I know a shower took place at some point, no idea when but it was still dark. Alls I know is I've got that 'I've been up entirely too long' sort of warm blugh feeling telling me I ought to go to bed, even though it's 1:30 in the afternoon.
So hey yeah living alone is great! As long as you have a good sense of time management or at least have shit to do during the day, or if you don't value your grip in reality all that much.
Yeah, and Obi, if you're going for environment artist, I'd really just have your environment art and completely specialize a portfolio towards it, marketing yourself as a specialist. Don't put photography in there if you're not gonna be taking photos.
Speaking of naps, I really need to get on an actual sleep schedule and stick to it, because right now I'm all over the place. I remember sleeping 6pm-9pm yesterday, and I feel I might have slept some more after that, but I can't remember if I actually did or just thought about it really hard, because I don't remember waking up again. I know a shower took place at some point, no idea when but it was still dark. Alls I know is I've got that 'I've been up entirely too long' sort of warm blugh feeling telling me I ought to go to bed, even though it's 1:30 in the afternoon.
So hey yeah living alone is great! As long as you have a good sense of time management or at least have shit to do during the day, or if you don't value your grip in reality all that much.
When I'm at home, I essentially live by myself with the exception of the like hour I interact with my parents when they first come home from work. I've done that for three summers strait without a car, Literally only going outside to get the mail for days on end. It didnt seem to bother me. Even so Im hoping to only stay home for a year once I get out of school.
I don't value my grip on reality much though, so either or, really.
Gonna try to get out to Winnipeg to visit my gramma there this summer. She's not in especially poor health, but I rarely see her since she basically stopped traveling and we don't have the time to go up and visit on a regular basis as a family. I don't want my relationship with her to dwindle to birthday monies and occasional facebook greetings :<<
Fortunately, my other grandparents are very close by, so I get to see them plenty.
Speaking of naps, I really need to get on an actual sleep schedule and stick to it, because right now I'm all over the place. I remember sleeping 6pm-9pm yesterday, and I feel I might have slept some more after that, but I can't remember if I actually did or just thought about it really hard, because I don't remember waking up again. I know a shower took place at some point, no idea when but it was still dark. Alls I know is I've got that 'I've been up entirely too long' sort of warm blugh feeling telling me I ought to go to bed, even though it's 1:30 in the afternoon.
So hey yeah living alone is great! As long as you have a good sense of time management or at least have shit to do during the day, or if you don't value your grip in reality all that much.
When I'm at home, I essentially live by myself with the exception of the like hour I interact with my parents when they first come home from work. I've done that for three summers strait without a car, Literally only going outside to get the mail for days on end. It didnt seem to bother me. Even so Im hoping to only stay home for a year once I get out of school.
I don't value my grip on reality much though, so either or, really.
Hermit Hi5!
(The Hermit Hi5 is just raising your hand, by yourself, in your empty room with the curtains drawn and the door locked).
I also pretty much lived alone much of the time I lived at my parents' over summers, but mostly that was because I kept a sleep schedule purposely designed to avoid them during waking hours as much as possible. Waking up just to have more time to listen to my mother work themselves up for (as the Brits would put it) a blazing row all day, enduring the ensuing blazing row when my father came home, and dealing with the aftermath of said blazing row afterwards- not all that cool. And then when I was awake and that wasn't happening (a rare occurrence), I got them getting in my face saying I should keep a normal schedule like normal people like them. :?
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edited April 2010
Its a cool idea though the place doesn't quite seem set up for it- Everything seems kinda bare and your painting don't get the chance to stick out which is a shame. j
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I realize that I may very well die for doing that unless i come up with an escape plan, like swinging away on a chandelier or something, but it will strike a blow for everyone everywhere. Except for Oprah fans, of course.
Economics!
Think back to the original posterchild of micro-transactions: the armor for the horse in Oblivion!
It already exists. These things are labeled as 'luxury goods' though. You're not going to be finding other companies charging 20 bucks for basic character models.
This post would have more explanation, but I can barely keep my eyelids open right now.
Stupid class. Stupid sleep.
I'd like to start a facebook group 'Fans of Oprahs Eye Bags'. They're pretty huge.
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staring Tom Green
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So I'm ok as long as I don't buy any games with a horse in it from now on?
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You have a knack for talking sense into a guy
That is an acceptable moral.
I think a better alternative would be to just not blow your money on stupid shit.
But I guess when you're playing the game a lot It'd make sense to sit on something that glows
But I could never buy something like that, I like real stuff a lot more.
I feel the same way about digital art and making it, I've gone more back to making non-digital art because I can take a look at it any time I want and because it's a lot more... Real? There's just something better about real stuff, I only take to video games because there's stuff that I can't get in the real world ( at least not without dying from it)
Edit: did I just counterargument myself?
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[edit] but yeah, I wouldn't ever pay real monies for some "special item" in a game.
No, the big money is being the guy that owns the company that hired the guy who designed something once, and then another guy it hired that decided that it could be sold over and over again, because another guy it hired did market research suggesting their customers have more money than sense.
The modeler of that horse might get an Employee of the Month sticker or something.
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Way to split hairs dude
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Nobody said anything about anyone being rewarded for their work. Everyone knows that if you draw a paycheck in this country you're pretty much being fucked as a matter of routine.
No, instead I was remarking on the simple economic principle of designing something that can be sold multiple times, like a glowy horse, a timeshare, or the brooklyn bridge.
I hate you, Bacon.
They've made about 1.5 million off the horse already.
750,000 units first day.
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You'd better move the decimal point over because $25*750000 = $18,750,000
That's great!
But guess what I still wouldn't buy?
Hrm, second time today and it's not even 10am yet.
I'm guessing by the end of the day I'm going to have angry villagers knocking at my door with torches and pitchforks.
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Oops sorry 140,000 first day.
still pretty good, considering they just reskinned a model for the mount that drops from the Lich King.
edit: jeez sorry man.
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Forbe: That really sucks, but let us know if there's anything we can do to help.
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on a different note, i'm trying to score a job as an environmental artist at a local gaming company and i'm putting together my portfolio site. Is there like, a magic number of portfolio pieces that I should have? I am splitting my work into 4 categories, Paintings, Illustration, design and photography, but after that I'm not sure what I should do.
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Obs, from what I understand, You're strongest work is what you want. 5 awesome works is better than 5 awesome and 5 more weaker works. You don't want to pad it, just pick the creme of the crop.
My roomates have been "leaving" for an hour and a half now, which I guess consists of yelling/squealing with each other while they put on make up. I was fucking stoked to take a nap and now I just want to strangle bitches. I'm looking forward to living alone.
So hey yeah living alone is great! As long as you have a good sense of time management or at least have shit to do during the day, or if you don't value your grip in reality all that much.
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When I'm at home, I essentially live by myself with the exception of the like hour I interact with my parents when they first come home from work. I've done that for three summers strait without a car, Literally only going outside to get the mail for days on end. It didnt seem to bother me. Even so Im hoping to only stay home for a year once I get out of school.
I don't value my grip on reality much though, so either or, really.
Gonna try to get out to Winnipeg to visit my gramma there this summer. She's not in especially poor health, but I rarely see her since she basically stopped traveling and we don't have the time to go up and visit on a regular basis as a family. I don't want my relationship with her to dwindle to birthday monies and occasional facebook greetings :<<
Fortunately, my other grandparents are very close by, so I get to see them plenty.
Hermit Hi5!
(The Hermit Hi5 is just raising your hand, by yourself, in your empty room with the curtains drawn and the door locked).
I also pretty much lived alone much of the time I lived at my parents' over summers, but mostly that was because I kept a sleep schedule purposely designed to avoid them during waking hours as much as possible. Waking up just to have more time to listen to my mother work themselves up for (as the Brits would put it) a blazing row all day, enduring the ensuing blazing row when my father came home, and dealing with the aftermath of said blazing row afterwards- not all that cool. And then when I was awake and that wasn't happening (a rare occurrence), I got them getting in my face saying I should keep a normal schedule like normal people like them. :?
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I don't know if it's cool or totally shit. I'm trending towards cool right now though. I hope no one spills shit on them.
Still, I would party the fuck up in there.