I'd say both systems have a nice backlog of games that are really worth playing, but I'd personally pick the PS3 thanks to Blu-ray and exclusives like Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, and LittleBigPlanet that are more unique and interesting (to me) than anther Halo or Fable.
Not getting double-dipped for a XBL Gold account on top of the Netflix member fee must be nice.
I don't have a PS3 yet, since I'm still working through a backlog of 360 games, but the $299 PS3 w/120gb HDD is easily the best value for a console right now.
I'm convinced the PS3 will have a much longer life cycle, as well. They just need to release a comfortable controller once they're finished screwing around with their PSWiimote.
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I'd say both systems have a nice backlog of games that are really worth playing, but I'd personally pick the PS3 thanks to Blu-ray and exclusives like Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, and LittleBigPlanet that are more unique and interesting (to me) than anther Halo or Fable.
Not getting double-dipped for a XBL Gold account on top of the Netflix member fee must be nice.
I don't have a PS3 yet, since I'm still working through a backlog of 360 games, but the $299 PS3 w/120gb HDD is easily the best value for a console right now.
I'm convinced the PS3 will have a much longer life cycle, as well. They just need to release a comfortable controller once they're finished screwing around with their PSWiimote.
They haven't significantly changed that controller design since the dual shock back in 1997. I doubt they're going to suddenly decide to change it now.
I wonder, does the topic creator actually want to decide between the two, or is this an elaborate way to start a flame war?
Well, the thread began with the only post they have ever made here and the OP has not contributed further thus far, despite several requests for clarification on a number of points...
Although I wouldn't exactly call it an elaborate plan. :P
Yeah, his forum tag is from a Vonnegut book
In The Siren's of Titan, the Tralfamadorian's are a robotic alien race that has been shaping the course of human existence in order to craft and deliver a spare part to one of their envoys stranded on Titan. It's not as good as it sounds.
Anyway, I just made this decision a couple months ago, and I am really pleased with the 360.
My only complaints would be with the fan noise and the Live interface.
They haven't significantly changed that controller design since the dual shock back in 1997. I doubt they're going to suddenly decide to change it now.
Too true, unfortunately. I may try Logitech's controller as an alternative, but more likely I'll just follow Ben Heck's guide and make a PS360 mongrel pad.
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I'd say both systems have a nice backlog of games that are really worth playing, but I'd personally pick the PS3 thanks to Blu-ray and exclusives like Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, and LittleBigPlanet that are more unique and interesting (to me) than anther Halo or Fable.
Not getting double-dipped for a XBL Gold account on top of the Netflix member fee must be nice.
I don't have a PS3 yet, since I'm still working through a backlog of 360 games, but the $299 PS3 w/120gb HDD is easily the best value for a console right now.
I'm convinced the PS3 will have a much longer life cycle, as well. They just need to release a comfortable controller once they're finished screwing around with their PSWiimote.
They haven't significantly changed that controller design since the dual shock back in 1997. I doubt they're going to suddenly decide to change it now.
I'm not really seeing how the PS3 is going to have a longer cycle (aside from the fiasco about the "ten year plan" a few months back), but I could be overlooking something. And I'm still somewhat surprised how long the current console generation has lasted.
But, who knows? That PS3 motion controller thing they have could be a runaway hit. I didn't expect the Wii to be as popular as it is, certainly.
Since we're throwing out a lot of nitpicks in this thread, I'll just add that I dislike how all of my 360 content is buried in sub-menus, all the ads are in the top menu. I turn on my PS3, and my games are right there, in the main menu.
Also, I love how the news ticker in the XMB gets so much hate, even though it kind of blends in and is one of the easiest things in the world to ignore, yet no one seems to complain about this being the first thing they see when they turn on their 360.
That being said, I wish my PSN games were sorted alphabetically like my XBLA games.
At the end of the day, it's just about what games you want to play. After you pick your console, you start to overstate the importance of really minor shit to reinforce your decision. Netflix taking like 5-10 seconds longer to load becomes "taking forever to load, god it sucks". That just-loud-enough-to-be-obnoxious disc drive suddenly sounds like a "jet engine about to take off."
What do all of your friends have? All of my friends have a PS3, because all of us had PS2s and were pretty adamant PS2 supporters. We had a big attachment to the Sony exclusives so it was a no-brainer for us to get the ps3 when they came out. Some of us got them right at release, I got one when the Metal Gear Solid pack came out.
There aren't any franchises exclusive to the 360 that I have overwhelming desire to play. On Ps3 I have multiple.
For me, the joystick placement just makes more sense and the buttons feel more responsive on the DS3. It all comes down to preference but for me the clear winner is the DS3.
The joystick slightly bothers me too. If I go RIGHT on the left joystick and LEFT right the right one my fingers hit each other. And I'm sorry I have monster hands too
Since we're throwing out a lot of nitpicks in this thread, I'll just add that I dislike how all of my 360 content is buried in sub-menus, all the ads are in the top menu. I turn on my PS3, and my games are right there, in the main menu.
Also, I love how the news ticker in the XMB gets so much hate, even though it kind of blends in and is one of the easiest things in the world to ignore, yet no one seems to complain about this being the first thing they see when they turn on their 360.
That being said, I wish my PSN games were sorted alphabetically like my XBLA games.
At the end of the day, it's just about what games you want to play. After you pick your console, you start to overstate the importance of really minor shit to reinforce your decision. Netflix taking like 5-10 seconds longer to load becomes "taking forever to load, god it sucks". That just-loud-enough-to-be-obnoxious disc drive suddenly sounds like a "jet engine about to take off."
Yep, totally agree. Also, as you show in your screenshot.. does anyone else get pissed it doesn't remember what you were last on or doesn't allow you to change the default so that it always defaults to "Spotlight" which to me is the worst possible choice. The default choice should be on "My Xbox" so if you've got a game disc in there you can play your game immediately rather than navigating up. I mean, it is a games console and not an advertising console.
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I wonder, does the topic creator actually want to decide between the two, or is this an elaborate way to start a flame war?
Well, the thread began with the only post they have ever made here and the OP has not contributed further thus far, despite several requests for clarification on a number of points...
Although I wouldn't exactly call it an elaborate plan. :P
Yeah, his forum tag is from a Vonnegut book
In The Siren's of Titan, the Tralfamadorian's are a robotic alien race that has been shaping the course of human existence in order to craft and deliver a spare part to one of their envoys stranded on Titan. It's not as good as it sounds.
Anyway, I just made this decision a couple months ago, and I am really pleased with the 360.
My only complaints would be with the fan noise and the Live interface.
They are also in Slaughterhouse 5
The time aliens that kidnap the MC, where he learns how to time travel. It's a much better book, I just explain it poorly.
Personally I has the Sixaxis since launch and only recently bought a DS3, I've only used it on FF13, where the implementation was meh. I'm sure there are better games for it though.
True. But can't you set it to auto-load the game in the drive rather than the dashboard?
Well, I primarily own the 360 for XBLA, so that wouldn't really help. And that's why it annoys me that they are buried in the sub-menus instead of being up front.
You can set it to default to My Xbox, my problem with the 360 user interface is that a full list of my XBLA games is two or three sub-menus below that. I start my PS3 or my Wii and the first thing they do is give me a list of my games.
For me, the joystick placement just makes more sense and the buttons feel more responsive on the DS3. It all comes down to preference but for me the clear winner is the DS3.
The joystick slightly bothers me too. If I go RIGHT on the left joystick and LEFT right the right one my fingers hit each other. And I'm sorry I have monster hands too
This has been a complaint of mine going back to the PS2, but I doubt it's going to chance any time soon, just the price of having big hands?
I have big hands too and have never had a problem with thumbs hitting each other with the joysticks. The tips of my thumbs fit perfectly over the joystick, so pushing them together naturally means that they won't hit each other.
I really prefer the actual analog sticks themselves too, over the 360's. Convex for life, seriously; I find what I end up doing most of the time on the 360 when I have to, say, push the left stick up, my thumb is only pushing up against the bottom "lip" of the concave, so I'm actually a lot more precise with the PS3 one
Oddly enough, for all the other problems I have with their controller this generation, Nintendo's joystick with the GC and Wii has been fucking aces. Convex with a nice little bit of grip.
You can set it to default to My Xbox, my problem with the 360 user interface is that a full list of my XBLA games is two or three sub-menus below that. I start my PS3 or my Wii and the first thing they do is give me a list of my games.
No you can't, I googled this a while back. The only ways are set it to autoload the disc in the drive (which defeats the point if the game you want to play is a download) and the other is to disable autologin of live which defeats the point if you want it to sync up achievements etc. There is no option to change the power on menu default, unless MS has released an update in the last couple of weeks which changes that. (not been on my 360 in the last couple of weeks)
Agree on everything else though, in terms of ease of use interface etc in my opinion it goes Wii > PS3 > 360. The 360 is like a maze. The wii is a really elegant and simple design and the PS3 it sort of gives you everything in front of you at the XMB whereas the 360 it's all over the place.
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One downside to both consoles but more prominent on PS3. I just got Heavy Rain, its taken 25 minutes to get to the part where I play it. Downloading an dinstalling patches and then installing the game itself.
Thankyou MS for the day one and thereafter patch to fix shipped broken games.
Since we're throwing out a lot of nitpicks in this thread, I'll just add that I dislike how all of my 360 content is buried in sub-menus, all the ads are in the top menu. I turn on my PS3, and my games are right there, in the main menu.
My PS3 defaults to PSN on power-on. And a bit back Sony added the store icon to every single category where it made sense and made it the default choice when you came to that menu the first time.
Honestly, finding things in the PSN store is inconvenient enough to undo what advantages it might otherwise have. The XMB by itself is okay, but the integration with PSN is pretty lousy, at least in my experience. I never actually browse PSN for this reason--every single thing I've downloaded off PSN I've known about in advance, so I would know where to find it, at least in theory. Shuffling around PSN just isn't very intuitive to me.
It is all quite attractive, though it reminds me of one thing that has bothered me: the recharging setup with the Dualshock 3. If my Xbox 360 controller runs out of juice, I basically have to spend all of 10 seconds swapping out the batteries for spare ones from the charger.
Get another DS3, this way you can just swap controllers when one runs out of juice and let it recharge. Besides you are going to need 2 controllers to play PJ Monsters or Shooter multiplayer. (Both excellent coop games to play with wife or gf). I have never had to sit close to the TV because a controller was out of juice. (Lots of psn games are local coop friendly)
Actually, addressing this--I guess it's a possibility, but it seems like a waste of $50. It may just the environment I'm living in (college town), but no one actually wants to play co-op PS3 games. The only one that ever caught on was Little Big Planet, which I personally found entertaining, but didn't bring myself to buy. Everything else is multiplatform. And since I already have multiple 4-person Xbox 360/oXbox games, game loading times are shorter, and I used it on my PC, I already own 4 Xbox 360 controllers. Spending another $50 seems kind of, well, wasteful, especially when I already have a Sixaxis sitting underneath my coffee table, collecting dust, for that miraculous chance that someone wants to play a co-op PS3 game.
Of course, this is purely anecdotal. I'm sure there are plenty of excellent PS3 co-op games out there that I don't know of that aren't available already on the Xbox 360. Right now, besides LBP, I can't think of any 4-player PS3 games, and I do own one 4-person PS2 game, though it's not terribly popular. So spending another $50 on a controller that doesn't feel cheap is less attractive. There's just less demand in my personal situation (that $50 would be much better spent on another game or something else).
On the flipside, I'm grateful that the PS3 no longer requires mandatory installs for full games. It's a little bothersome for demos, but those are demos, so it is forgivable. It's nice to pop in a full game and start playing immediately, as has been the case with the PS2, the oXbox, the Xbox 360, etc.
I do prefer the 360's approach to installs. Pretty much every game can be installed, and its up to the user when (and if) to do it.
I tend to just cancel updates when I'm playing single-player games. I can always run it later.
From my understanding MS lifted that feature (idea) from the modchip crowd, whereby they mounted a dvd image on the hard drive of the xbox. That's all it's doing on the 360 iirc, it's totally transparent to the game. Whereas on the PS3 installs it literally copies over the files themselves rather than emulate the disc drive to the game.
It's understandable in a way about mandatory installs on the PS3, the bluray drive simply isn't as fast as the 360's. However, it still pisses me off occasionally... case in point MGS 4, change of chapter time to wait whilst it deletes and reinstalls the next chapter. I wish Konami would pull their finger out and add a full install option.
Honestly, finding things in the PSN store is inconvenient enough to undo what advantages it might otherwise have. The XMB by itself is okay, but the integration with PSN is pretty lousy, at least in my experience. I never actually browse PSN for this reason--every single thing I've downloaded off PSN I've known about in advance, so I would know where to find it, at least in theory. Shuffling around PSN just isn't very intuitive to me.
Generally I don't have a problem with the PSN store except for fucking demos, the UK PSN store lacks a demo section so you have to go hunting through the myriad of games etc to find demos. The USA PSN store does not have this problem, I think the UK PSN (SCEE) store is run by retarded monkeys.
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Honestly, finding things in the PSN store is inconvenient enough to undo what advantages it might otherwise have. The XMB by itself is okay, but the integration with PSN is pretty lousy, at least in my experience. I never actually browse PSN for this reason--every single thing I've downloaded off PSN I've known about in advance, so I would know where to find it, at least in theory. Shuffling around PSN just isn't very intuitive to me.
Generally I don't have a problem with the PSN store except for fucking demos, the UK PSN store lacks a demo section so you have to go hunting through the myriad of games etc to find demos. The USA PSN store does not have this problem, I think the UK PSN (SCEE) store is run by retarded monkeys.
I think the US store is run by those same monkeys part of the time. There's a demo section, but honestly, the number of subsections is getting pretty ridiculous. There's a category that literally has two demos in it. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time.
I also miss the integration (being able to go immediately from looking at what games I own to DLC for them). DLC hunting on PSN sucks, though it'd be more problematic if I owned more PS3 games, so I guess I'm lucky?
My PS3 defaults to PSN on power-on. And a bit back Sony added the store icon to every single category where it made sense and made it the default choice when you came to that menu the first time.
If you disable the What's New setting, the XMB will default to highlight the inserted game at start up. If no game is in the drive it will highlight whatever PSN game is at the top of the list, or the first folder if you sort into folders. When you move to the left, instead of defaulting to the PS Video Store icon, it will highlight either your first video/folder or your disc if you have a movie inserted.
Honestly, finding things in the PSN store is inconvenient enough to undo what advantages it might otherwise have. The XMB by itself is okay, but the integration with PSN is pretty lousy, at least in my experience. I never actually browse PSN for this reason--every single thing I've downloaded off PSN I've known about in advance, so I would know where to find it, at least in theory. Shuffling around PSN just isn't very intuitive to me.
If you're living on the other side of the Atlantic, I totally understand. The EU store fucking sucks. If you're in the US, I don't know what you're problem is, because that shit is easy to browse.
If you're living on the other side of the Atlantic, I totally understand. The EU store fucking sucks. If you're in the US, I don't know what you're problem is, because that shit is easy to browse.
I browse the US and Japan stores, and occasionally the EU store (though I've done that less and less--now I think I know why). They're both just a little clumsy, in my experience, and the later is something else entirely now, I guess? I may have been spoiled by the fact that I'm accustomed from being able to buy or download DLC one button-press away from the game launch menu, as oppose to getting options like "Game Information" and "Internet Search", which are, well, less useful. Some people might really love those two options though, so...more power to you who do. Maybe later games actually have side options that are convenient?
Side note, how is PS Home? When I got my PS3, it basically sucked loud and clear, even if you liked stuff like Second Life. I imagine they've had a lot of time to add stuff, functions, etc. Is it worth checking out?
If you're living on the other side of the Atlantic, I totally understand. The EU store fucking sucks. If you're in the US, I don't know what you're problem is, because that shit is easy to browse.
I browse the US and Japan stores. They're both just a little clumsy, in my experience. I've probably been spoiled by the fact that I'm accustomed from being able to buy or download DLC one button-press away from the launch menu, as oppose to getting options like "Game Information" and "Internet Search", which are, well, less useful. Some people might really love those two options though, so...more power to you who do.
Side note, how is PS Home? When I got my PS3, it basically sucked loud and clear, even if you liked stuff like Second Life. I imagine they've had a lot of time to add stuff, functions, etc. Is it worth checking out?
Last time I checked a few months back, no.. I think PS Home is like Second Life in that it has and always will suck. Nice idea, just in implementation isn't really that great. Nothing from stopping you have a look, if you choose to go exploring in the den of home, report back and let us know your findings.
Don't forget to denigrate any furries you may find.
I will concede that having a shortcut straight from the game launch menu to the corresponding game's DLC is more convenient, but I think doing a straight comparison of browsing the stores, I think they're pretty similar in intuitiveness.
I haven't been back into Home. I'm assuming its just as terrible, but now there's more variety to the wardrobe. When I tried it, it was an endless sea of short-brown-haired white dudes with blue t-shirts.
Side note, how is PS Home? When I got my PS3, it basically sucked loud and clear, even if you liked stuff like Second Life. I imagine they've had a lot of time to add stuff, functions, etc. Is it worth checking out?
Last time I checked a few months back, no.. I think PS Home is like Second Life in that it has and always will suck. Nice idea, just in implementation isn't really that great. Nothing from stopping you have a look, if you choose to go exploring in the den of home, report back and let us know your findings.
Don't forget to denigrate any furries you may find.
God speed Synthesis..
You are not encouraging me here. Especially considering I'm still somewhat convinced that the implementation still sucks. A friend of mine, who basically owns every PS3 game released in the US, somehow got the idea that we should watch the New Years ball drop on PS Home when we were at his house--this basically meant we spent 20 minutes on New Years Eve staring at an ugly model of a person stuttering through lag into a wall.
And now there are furries on Home? How are their furries? Wait, I don't want to know, I just didn't think it was possible to begin with.
I will concede that having a shortcut straight from the game launch menu to the corresponding game's DLC is more convenient, but I think doing a straight comparison of browsing the stores, I think they're pretty similar in intuitiveness.
I haven't been back into Home. I'm assuming its just as terrible, but now there's more variety to the wardrobe. When I tried it, it was an endless sea of short-brown-haired white dudes with blue t-shirts.
I like the bigger game portraits. Again, completely anecdotal--I have an astigmatism, and I don't sit that close to my TV. A lot of people probably prefer small tiles that they can see more of.
You can set it to default to My Xbox, my problem with the 360 user interface is that a full list of my XBLA games is two or three sub-menus below that. I start my PS3 or my Wii and the first thing they do is give me a list of my games.
No you can't, I googled this a while back. The only ways are set it to autoload the disc in the drive (which defeats the point if the game you want to play is a download) and the other is to disable autologin of live which defeats the point if you want it to sync up achievements etc. There is no option to change the power on menu default, unless MS has released an update in the last couple of weeks which changes that. (not been on my 360 in the last couple of weeks)
Huh? Why would setting it to start to the "My Xbox" page disable autologin to live? Not that I've tried since my 360 isn't connected to the internet yet (stupid lack of wireless..)...
Edit: unless you mean disable autologin in order to get change the default page, but you don't have to do that, and you haven't had to in forever, my 360 hasn't been patched since the NXE launch (and it was a mistake patching it then) and the option to get rid of the welcome channel is still there.
Side note, how is PS Home? When I got my PS3, it basically sucked loud and clear, even if you liked stuff like Second Life. I imagine they've had a lot of time to add stuff, functions, etc. Is it worth checking out?
Last time I checked a few months back, no.. I think PS Home is like Second Life in that it has and always will suck. Nice idea, just in implementation isn't really that great. Nothing from stopping you have a look, if you choose to go exploring in the den of home, report back and let us know your findings.
Don't forget to denigrate any furries you may find.
God speed Synthesis..
You are not encouraging me here. Especially considering I'm still somewhat convinced that the implementation still sucks. A friend of mine, who basically owns every PS3 game released in the US, somehow got the idea that we should watch the New Years ball drop on PS Home when we were at his house--this basically meant we spent 20 minutes on New Years Eve staring at an ugly model of a person stuttering through lag into a wall.
And now there are furries on Home? How are their furries? Wait, I don't want to know, I just didn't think it was possible to begin with.
I will concede that having a shortcut straight from the game launch menu to the corresponding game's DLC is more convenient, but I think doing a straight comparison of browsing the stores, I think they're pretty similar in intuitiveness.
I haven't been back into Home. I'm assuming its just as terrible, but now there's more variety to the wardrobe. When I tried it, it was an endless sea of short-brown-haired white dudes with blue t-shirts.
I like the bigger game portraits. Again, completely anecdotal--I have an astigmatism, and I don't sit that close to my TV. A lot of people probably prefer small tiles that they can see more of.
On the matter of the PS3...has anyone else with a 80 GB PS3 (software BC) noticed that their wireless device is really, well, weak? It might just be my crappy internet connection through, but running tests, I've found that the PS3 has to be a lot closer to my wireless router than other devices to function properly. I've tried moving it to the top of my furniture, making a crude antenna for my router, the usual fixes, but the only method is to close the distance.
I end up relying on the 50 ft ethernet cable I have hanging around for just this case.
I ended up wiring mine just because I play fighting games online mostly where every little bit counts. When it was wireless everything but fighting games worked fine.
Side note, how is PS Home? When I got my PS3, it basically sucked loud and clear, even if you liked stuff like Second Life. I imagine they've had a lot of time to add stuff, functions, etc. Is it worth checking out?
Home is weird. There is definately some sort of community of sorts, which I am completely not a part of nor interested in the least of. Some of the minigames are kind of interesting. And hell, its free and you don't have to ever venture there so *shrug*
I like the bigger game portraits. Again, completely anecdotal--I have an astigmatism, and I don't sit that close to my TV. A lot of people probably prefer small tiles that they can see more of.
The square button toggles different view options in the store. You can make the tiles bigger. Not as big as the tiles in the Marketplace, but pretty big.
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Not getting double-dipped for a XBL Gold account on top of the Netflix member fee must be nice.
I don't have a PS3 yet, since I'm still working through a backlog of 360 games, but the $299 PS3 w/120gb HDD is easily the best value for a console right now.
I'm convinced the PS3 will have a much longer life cycle, as well. They just need to release a comfortable controller once they're finished screwing around with their PSWiimote.
They haven't significantly changed that controller design since the dual shock back in 1997. I doubt they're going to suddenly decide to change it now.
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Anyway, I just made this decision a couple months ago, and I am really pleased with the 360.
My only complaints would be with the fan noise and the Live interface.
Batarang, but yes, that's a perfect example. Rather than follow through on the design, the moment people complained, then went back to old faithful.
Too true, unfortunately. I may try Logitech's controller as an alternative, but more likely I'll just follow Ben Heck's guide and make a PS360 mongrel pad.
I'm not really seeing how the PS3 is going to have a longer cycle (aside from the fiasco about the "ten year plan" a few months back), but I could be overlooking something. And I'm still somewhat surprised how long the current console generation has lasted.
But, who knows? That PS3 motion controller thing they have could be a runaway hit. I didn't expect the Wii to be as popular as it is, certainly.
Also, I love how the news ticker in the XMB gets so much hate, even though it kind of blends in and is one of the easiest things in the world to ignore, yet no one seems to complain about this being the first thing they see when they turn on their 360.
That being said, I wish my PSN games were sorted alphabetically like my XBLA games.
At the end of the day, it's just about what games you want to play. After you pick your console, you start to overstate the importance of really minor shit to reinforce your decision. Netflix taking like 5-10 seconds longer to load becomes "taking forever to load, god it sucks". That just-loud-enough-to-be-obnoxious disc drive suddenly sounds like a "jet engine about to take off."
What do all of your friends have? All of my friends have a PS3, because all of us had PS2s and were pretty adamant PS2 supporters. We had a big attachment to the Sony exclusives so it was a no-brainer for us to get the ps3 when they came out. Some of us got them right at release, I got one when the Metal Gear Solid pack came out.
There aren't any franchises exclusive to the 360 that I have overwhelming desire to play. On Ps3 I have multiple.
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The joystick slightly bothers me too. If I go RIGHT on the left joystick and LEFT right the right one my fingers hit each other. And I'm sorry I have monster hands too
Yep, totally agree. Also, as you show in your screenshot.. does anyone else get pissed it doesn't remember what you were last on or doesn't allow you to change the default so that it always defaults to "Spotlight" which to me is the worst possible choice. The default choice should be on "My Xbox" so if you've got a game disc in there you can play your game immediately rather than navigating up. I mean, it is a games console and not an advertising console.
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It's not hard of course, it's more an annoying little niggle.
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They are also in Slaughterhouse 5
Personally I has the Sixaxis since launch and only recently bought a DS3, I've only used it on FF13, where the implementation was meh. I'm sure there are better games for it though.
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Well, I primarily own the 360 for XBLA, so that wouldn't really help. And that's why it annoys me that they are buried in the sub-menus instead of being up front.
This has been a complaint of mine going back to the PS2, but I doubt it's going to chance any time soon, just the price of having big hands?
I really prefer the actual analog sticks themselves too, over the 360's. Convex for life, seriously; I find what I end up doing most of the time on the 360 when I have to, say, push the left stick up, my thumb is only pushing up against the bottom "lip" of the concave, so I'm actually a lot more precise with the PS3 one
Oddly enough, for all the other problems I have with their controller this generation, Nintendo's joystick with the GC and Wii has been fucking aces. Convex with a nice little bit of grip.
No you can't, I googled this a while back. The only ways are set it to autoload the disc in the drive (which defeats the point if the game you want to play is a download) and the other is to disable autologin of live which defeats the point if you want it to sync up achievements etc. There is no option to change the power on menu default, unless MS has released an update in the last couple of weeks which changes that. (not been on my 360 in the last couple of weeks)
Agree on everything else though, in terms of ease of use interface etc in my opinion it goes Wii > PS3 > 360. The 360 is like a maze. The wii is a really elegant and simple design and the PS3 it sort of gives you everything in front of you at the XMB whereas the 360 it's all over the place.
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
Thankyou MS for the day one and thereafter patch to fix shipped broken games.
I tend to just cancel updates when I'm playing single-player games. I can always run it later.
Actually, addressing this--I guess it's a possibility, but it seems like a waste of $50. It may just the environment I'm living in (college town), but no one actually wants to play co-op PS3 games. The only one that ever caught on was Little Big Planet, which I personally found entertaining, but didn't bring myself to buy. Everything else is multiplatform. And since I already have multiple 4-person Xbox 360/oXbox games, game loading times are shorter, and I used it on my PC, I already own 4 Xbox 360 controllers. Spending another $50 seems kind of, well, wasteful, especially when I already have a Sixaxis sitting underneath my coffee table, collecting dust, for that miraculous chance that someone wants to play a co-op PS3 game.
Of course, this is purely anecdotal. I'm sure there are plenty of excellent PS3 co-op games out there that I don't know of that aren't available already on the Xbox 360. Right now, besides LBP, I can't think of any 4-player PS3 games, and I do own one 4-person PS2 game, though it's not terribly popular. So spending another $50 on a controller that doesn't feel cheap is less attractive. There's just less demand in my personal situation (that $50 would be much better spent on another game or something else).
On the flipside, I'm grateful that the PS3 no longer requires mandatory installs for full games. It's a little bothersome for demos, but those are demos, so it is forgivable. It's nice to pop in a full game and start playing immediately, as has been the case with the PS2, the oXbox, the Xbox 360, etc.
From my understanding MS lifted that feature (idea) from the modchip crowd, whereby they mounted a dvd image on the hard drive of the xbox. That's all it's doing on the 360 iirc, it's totally transparent to the game. Whereas on the PS3 installs it literally copies over the files themselves rather than emulate the disc drive to the game.
It's understandable in a way about mandatory installs on the PS3, the bluray drive simply isn't as fast as the 360's. However, it still pisses me off occasionally... case in point MGS 4, change of chapter time to wait whilst it deletes and reinstalls the next chapter. I wish Konami would pull their finger out and add a full install option.
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Generally I don't have a problem with the PSN store except for fucking demos, the UK PSN store lacks a demo section so you have to go hunting through the myriad of games etc to find demos. The USA PSN store does not have this problem, I think the UK PSN (SCEE) store is run by retarded monkeys.
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
I think the US store is run by those same monkeys part of the time. There's a demo section, but honestly, the number of subsections is getting pretty ridiculous. There's a category that literally has two demos in it. I'm sure it seemed like a good idea at the time.
I also miss the integration (being able to go immediately from looking at what games I own to DLC for them). DLC hunting on PSN sucks, though it'd be more problematic if I owned more PS3 games, so I guess I'm lucky?
If you disable the What's New setting, the XMB will default to highlight the inserted game at start up. If no game is in the drive it will highlight whatever PSN game is at the top of the list, or the first folder if you sort into folders. When you move to the left, instead of defaulting to the PS Video Store icon, it will highlight either your first video/folder or your disc if you have a movie inserted.
If you're living on the other side of the Atlantic, I totally understand. The EU store fucking sucks. If you're in the US, I don't know what you're problem is, because that shit is easy to browse.
I browse the US and Japan stores, and occasionally the EU store (though I've done that less and less--now I think I know why). They're both just a little clumsy, in my experience, and the later is something else entirely now, I guess? I may have been spoiled by the fact that I'm accustomed from being able to buy or download DLC one button-press away from the game launch menu, as oppose to getting options like "Game Information" and "Internet Search", which are, well, less useful. Some people might really love those two options though, so...more power to you who do. Maybe later games actually have side options that are convenient?
Side note, how is PS Home? When I got my PS3, it basically sucked loud and clear, even if you liked stuff like Second Life. I imagine they've had a lot of time to add stuff, functions, etc. Is it worth checking out?
Last time I checked a few months back, no.. I think PS Home is like Second Life in that it has and always will suck. Nice idea, just in implementation isn't really that great. Nothing from stopping you have a look, if you choose to go exploring in the den of home, report back and let us know your findings.
Don't forget to denigrate any furries you may find.
God speed Synthesis..
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
I haven't been back into Home. I'm assuming its just as terrible, but now there's more variety to the wardrobe. When I tried it, it was an endless sea of short-brown-haired white dudes with blue t-shirts.
You are not encouraging me here. Especially considering I'm still somewhat convinced that the implementation still sucks. A friend of mine, who basically owns every PS3 game released in the US, somehow got the idea that we should watch the New Years ball drop on PS Home when we were at his house--this basically meant we spent 20 minutes on New Years Eve staring at an ugly model of a person stuttering through lag into a wall.
And now there are furries on Home? How are their furries? Wait, I don't want to know, I just didn't think it was possible to begin with.
I like the bigger game portraits. Again, completely anecdotal--I have an astigmatism, and I don't sit that close to my TV. A lot of people probably prefer small tiles that they can see more of.
Edit: unless you mean disable autologin in order to get change the default page, but you don't have to do that, and you haven't had to in forever, my 360 hasn't been patched since the NXE launch (and it was a mistake patching it then) and the option to get rid of the welcome channel is still there.
There was that hamster thing a while back...
Hamsters
A search on youtube for "ps3 home hamster" should give you all you need.
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I've got a spare copy of Portal, if anyone wants it message me.
Defend it... DEFEEEEND ITTTT!!!!
The square button toggles different view options in the store. You can make the tiles bigger. Not as big as the tiles in the Marketplace, but pretty big.