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[Mass Effect]: You've Just Been Tali'd!

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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    edited April 2010
    Jacob has the best abs in the galaxy. I'm not sure what more you people want from him.

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  • -Loki--Loki- Don't pee in my mouth and tell me it's raining. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A duck! wrote: »
    Jacob has the best abs in the galaxy. I'm not sure what more you people want from him.

    Miranda has the best tits, but she's peeeeeeeeeerrrrrfect.

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    pull and fire ammo vs warp and overload


    hmm


    Hmmm

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    not to mention a hefty weapon damage bonus

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    what is jacob's loyalty power anyway? i don't think I ever used jacob for anything except Freedom' Progress, either Mordin or Garrus' recruitment, and his own loyalty mission. and once I hacked Legion into my game I only used him for Freedom's Progress and his Loyalty.

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    it's barrier so he dies less when he exposes himself to hit something once with a shotgun



    edit: i will admit i took it as a bonus power. I was disappointed because barrier looked a lot cooler in mass effect 1

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  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Jacob is pretty much exactly like Grunt (up to same damage bonus, incendiary, and defensive loyalty), but with inferior weaponry, less health, less defense, less regen, less amusing catchphrases (although gravity IS one mean mother), a less interesting romance, and pull instead of concussive.

    He does have some ludicrous abs, though, because goddamn.

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  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    finnith wrote: »
    Oh god the Bioware forums make me so angry. How could someone equate the lack of a helmet toggle for the DLC armors and bad planet scanning to the flaws that ME1 had? I'm trying to convince them that they're wrong, even though I know they'll never believe me.

    Ha ha, "reason" on an official form.

    Oh sweet child.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    it's barrier so he dies less when he exposes himself to hit something once with a shotgun



    edit: i will admit i took it as a bonus power. I was disappointed because barrier looked a lot cooler in mass effect 1

    I remember that from my playthrough of ME1 recently. Barrier is all "fwoooooomp!!!" and your character does this wicked arm movement and your whole body pulses. It looks like it should explode all enemies away from you in a rapid fashion.

    then in ME2 its like...just a glow.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Barrier got put in the same place that Immunity did.

    That being said your shields are simply overall weaker than they were in ME1 because I mean...you never lost them in ME1 once you got decent armor.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    i remembered Jacob's abs then I thought "nah, they can't be as great as I am remembering"

    then i googled them

    they are even better

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Playing with Sentinel has made me realize how much I like Shockwave. Having a move that goes through walls is just so useful.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Playing with Sentinel has made me realize how much I like Shockwave. Having a move that goes through walls is just so useful.

    i hate shockwave.

    though i basically only ever play on Insanity now and Shockwave being useless for anything with defenses its pointless. Once an enemy doesnt have defenses just about anything will kill them.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I play on insanity too and I find use for it.

    Though I find insanity to be overrated in terms of difficulty anyway.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    When do you use it though? And as what class, ie, do you use Jack's Shockwave or your own?

    As an adept, I never found any reason to use anything but Warp against defenses or Singularity + warp explosion against unprotected enemies.

    As anyone else, there's so many other better squad members than Jack.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Vanguard. I basically use it when people are hiding behind cover. If they have on their armor it still pops them up so I can take them down.

    If they don't, it knocks them to the ground. Especially good when they're grouped together.

    For Adept it probably isn't as important though because Singularity does that and better.

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  • PancakePancake Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    When they release an alternate costume for Jacob, it should be shirtless.

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  • SoundsPlushSoundsPlush yup, back. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    A mesh shirt, a la Right Said Fred.

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  • Feels Good ManFeels Good Man Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    a really tight pink polo, with the collar popped

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    a really tight pink polo, with the collar popped

    With four collars popped.

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  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Miranda's alternate costume should be a Swedish Milk Maid.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Vanguard. I basically use it when people are hiding behind cover. If they have on their armor it still pops them up so I can take them down.

    If they don't, it knocks them to the ground. Especially good when they're grouped together.

    For Adept it probably isn't as important though because Singularity does that and better.

    I find I use Reave more often; I KNOW which target it's going to hit, and if defenses are down it'll immobilize the bastard. It doesn't have Shockwave's AoE, but it'll also tag those guys up on cliffs and guys that are far away (Shockwave has a definite range). I'll have to switch things up (there are only so many hotkeys) and give Shockwave a try again later on, but for now, Reave's got that spot for me.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I use both. And Reave doesn't go through cover.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I use both. And Reave doesn't go through cover.

    How many of the hotkeys do you have set to your personal powers? I find 1-4 are the easiest to reach, so I end up using just 2 of them for me, with 3 and 4 being squad powers (also 5 and 6, leaving 7 and 8 for the rare utility ones that I infrequently use, and more frequently just hit the power menu for). That's probably part of it.

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  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Orca wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I use both. And Reave doesn't go through cover.

    How many of the hotkeys do you have set to your personal powers? I find 1-4 are the easiest to reach, so I end up using just 2 of them for me, with 3 and 4 being squad powers (also 5 and 6, leaving 7 and 8 for the rare utility ones that I infrequently use, and more frequently just hit the power menu for). That's probably part of it.

    I'm not on the PC. Either way, it not like Reave or Shockwave have long cooldown times. Actually, I don't think Vanguard has any ability that do.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    I use both. And Reave doesn't go through cover.

    How many of the hotkeys do you have set to your personal powers? I find 1-4 are the easiest to reach, so I end up using just 2 of them for me, with 3 and 4 being squad powers (also 5 and 6, leaving 7 and 8 for the rare utility ones that I infrequently use, and more frequently just hit the power menu for). That's probably part of it.

    I'm not on the PC. Either way, it not like Reave or Shockwave have long cooldown times. Actually, I don't think Vanguard has any ability that do.

    And thank Gu for it. Anything that gets in the way of chargin' is off limits.

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    ^^^ uh, good to know? :^:
    i don't think this is the big deal you think it is, considering they left dialogue in-game for pretty much every character pairing - evidence that they had even more permutations for ME2, but actually pared them down after putting them in.

    They have dialogue for everyone for various situations because they recorded long before they finalized sequencing, and they had the voice actors there already and it doesn't take too long to record a bunch of one-liners for various situations.

    That's a massive difference from writing and recording every line of ten whole characters for the entire game who might never show up at all.

    again, i think you're viewing this the wrong way. this isn't some sidequest tucked away in a remote corner of the galaxy in some bunker on a deserted planet. these are characters that everyone has spent the entire game with. i'm just bullshitting this guesstimate here, but let's imagine the percentages for a moment:

    lost 1-2 squad members: 75% of players
    lost 3-4 squad members: 8% of players
    lost 4-5+ squad members: 1% of players
    lost 0 squad members: 16% of players

    and let's say that's just first playthroughs. add an achievement to save everyone and you suddenly have incentive.

    lost 0 squad members: 100%

    seriously - anyone who's played ME2 more than once is going to have a save where everyone lives. a vast majority of players will have saved everybody - therefore, the statistical likelihood of "might never show up at all" is vanishingly small.

    so really, these aren't ten whole characters that aren't worth voicing/animating/writing.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    seriously - anyone who's played ME2 more than once is going to have a save where everyone lives. a vast majority of players will have saved everybody - therefore, the statistical likelihood of "might never show up at all" is vanishingly small.

    so really, these aren't ten whole characters that aren't worth voicing/animating/writing.

    I wonder if they collect the gameplay data for that sort of thing with the online functionality. Hmmm...

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    they wouldn't have included the achievement if they weren't trying to weight the outcomes

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  • Frosty the Snow PlowFrosty the Snow Plow Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    They've expressed delight in their data gathering on the playerbase before, down to things not recorded in achievements like chosen love interest and most-used party members.

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  • finnithfinnith ... TorontoRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Orca wrote: »
    seriously - anyone who's played ME2 more than once is going to have a save where everyone lives. a vast majority of players will have saved everybody - therefore, the statistical likelihood of "might never show up at all" is vanishingly small.

    so really, these aren't ten whole characters that aren't worth voicing/animating/writing.

    I wonder if they collect the gameplay data for that sort of thing with the online functionality. Hmmm...

    They do actually. I think I read in some interview that the game calls them back and gives them a list of statistics, such as if the player cheated or not, how many squadmates survived, etc.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    finnith wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    seriously - anyone who's played ME2 more than once is going to have a save where everyone lives. a vast majority of players will have saved everybody - therefore, the statistical likelihood of "might never show up at all" is vanishingly small.

    so really, these aren't ten whole characters that aren't worth voicing/animating/writing.

    I wonder if they collect the gameplay data for that sort of thing with the online functionality. Hmmm...

    They do actually. I think I read in some interview that the game calls them back and gives them a list of statistics, such as if the player cheated or not, how many squadmates survived, etc.

    How could they even tell about the cheating thing, given that the console isn't available in ME2?

    Edit: talking about savegame mods, not coalesced.ini editing.

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Orca wrote: »
    finnith wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    seriously - anyone who's played ME2 more than once is going to have a save where everyone lives. a vast majority of players will have saved everybody - therefore, the statistical likelihood of "might never show up at all" is vanishingly small.

    so really, these aren't ten whole characters that aren't worth voicing/animating/writing.

    I wonder if they collect the gameplay data for that sort of thing with the online functionality. Hmmm...

    They do actually. I think I read in some interview that the game calls them back and gives them a list of statistics, such as if the player cheated or not, how many squadmates survived, etc.

    How could they even tell about the cheating thing, given that the console isn't available in ME2?

    Edit: talking about savegame mods, not coalesced.ini editing.

    I think he means cheating on love interests.

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  • TIFunkaliciousTIFunkalicious Kicking back in NebraskaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ad astra wrote: »
    Orca wrote: »
    I think he means cheating on love interests.

    If so, half of ME3 will be the backlash of cheating on liara with tali

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Ad astra wrote: »
    I think he means cheating on love interests.

    If so, half of ME3 will be the backlash of cheating on liara with tali

    It's times like this that I wish I enjoyed Mark Meer's voice as much as I enjoy Jennifer Hale's.

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  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I'll be kind of annoyed if there's some sort of terrible consequence for cheating on Liara, because they didn't do a very good job convincing me there was still much of a relationship to cheat on.

    If all it really does is make Liara hate me then I'll survive.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    If it makes Liara hate you, regardless of any other consequences, that is an incentive to fuck around on her.

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  • OrcaOrca Also known as Espressosaurus WrexRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There terrible consequence will be that she will hate you forever. And this will be awful.

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  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I dunno, that sounds like a forever I can live with.

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Adus wrote: »
    I'll be kind of annoyed if there's some sort of terrible consequence for cheating on Liara, because they didn't do a very good job convincing me there was still much of a relationship to cheat on.

    If all it really does is make Liara hate me then I'll survive.

    I'm just hoping that copious amounts of hilarity ensue when your former love interest realizes you cheated on them.

    I'm picturing a space duel, or perhaps some sort of space boxing match for the male love interests, and a space catfight for the female love interests.

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