*sigh* So, apparently Hercules is returning. I'm going to bitch about this, because of the whole "death doesn't mean anything".
But...on the bright side...he's involved in a Pak event, "Chaos War". And he'll have his God Squad again. And it looks like we'll start getting some good Pak Hulk stories again, now that Loeb has spent his load on Rulk.
*sigh* So, apparently Hercules is returning. I'm going to bitch about this, because of the whole "death doesn't mean anything".
But...on the bright side...he's involved in a Pak event, "Chaos War". And he'll have his God Squad again. And it looks like we'll start getting some good Pak Hulk stories again, now that Loeb has spent his load on Rulk.
Furthermore, he, in a twisted way, has finally gotten what he always wanted: The Hulk as a military weapon.
So now what's he going to do?
He's already proven how dangerous he is by beating up damn near everyone.
He's finally defeated Banner Hulk.
Right now, he literally has endless possibilities.
The good thing about Loeb's run is that it can be completely ignored because nothing of note really happened. He hasn't really been characterized. We know that Red Hulk is a dick, and we know that he is General Ross.
Other writers, go hog wild.
Red Hulk literally has more potential than a lot of characters in the Marvel Universe.
A writer is going to salvage Red Hulk by depowering him and finally killing Ross. Rulk cannot exist in the main MU because hes a mary sue and a huge, huge dick.
*sigh* So, apparently Hercules is returning. I'm going to bitch about this, because of the whole "death doesn't mean anything".
But...on the bright side...he's involved in a Pak event, "Chaos War". And he'll have his God Squad again. And it looks like we'll start getting some good Pak Hulk stories again, now that Loeb has spent his load on Rulk.
Well he isn't really dead anyway.
And they said he wasn't dead pretty much as soon as he was "dead." Like, right after his funeral Cho found out he wasn't in the afterlife.
He's an Olympian. Which means he can't actually permanently die. so, you know he was always going to come back. Still, I always found it wierd that Phoenix is one of the few characters who is still dead, bearing in mind she actually has ressurection powers. Ironeeee!
Phoenix has one story arc because shes ridiculously powerful. She either causes a tug of love between Scott and Frost or she tries to destroy [Insert important thing here] and has to fail.
Furthermore, he, in a twisted way, has finally gotten what he always wanted: The Hulk as a military weapon.
So now what's he going to do?
He's already proven how dangerous he is by beating up damn near everyone.
He's finally defeated Banner Hulk.
Right now, he literally has endless possibilities.
The good thing about Loeb's run is that it can be completely ignored because nothing of note really happened. He hasn't really been characterized. We know that Red Hulk is a dick, and we know that he is General Ross.
Other writers, go hog wild.
Red Hulk literally has more potential than a lot of characters in the Marvel Universe.
Nothing of note?
A shitload of heroes wound up getting gamma irradiated, clay quartermain bit it, Samson went insane, a helicarrier crashed in DC, several of the smartest people on the planet were kidnapped, banner got turned into a normal human (seriously, lamest deus ex power ever)...
the end to everything you said happened in Hulk can be suffixed with "and then they got better"
so yes, things happened, but they didn't really affect anything
A writer is going to salvage Red Hulk by depowering him and finally killing Ross. Rulk cannot exist in the main MU because hes a mary sue and a huge, huge dick.
nah doggie
you just ain't thinking outside the box
you are letting NERD RAGE cloud your mind.
Now it's time for Red Hulk to join the Secret Avengers
Man the next issue of Hulk not written by Loeb is going to start with a small thought box that says simply this
"I, Bruce Banner, awoke from my cosmic satellite induced coma following my battle against Sentry*. The Rulk, as I thought, was just a bad dream conjured from my temporarily retarded mind. The world made sense again"
Man the next issue of Hulk not written by Loeb is going to start with a small thought box that says simply this
"I, Bruce Banner, awoke from my cosmic satellite induced coma following my battle against Sentry*. The Rulk, as I thought, was just a bad dream conjured from my temporarily retarded mind. The world made sense again"
I awoke in a daze, the memories of the Hulk's rage like the pitter patter of screaming babies in my mind. Their blood stains the stepping stones into my very soul. I looked out of the window, the snow falling like pale misery, concealing the evil that lay upon the streets below.
It was then that I remembered him, a crimson stain across the grey-white of the storm-wracked sky, filled with a rage and heat which matched my own. I shook my head, seeking to push away the last remnants of the nightmare, but the monster in my head followed me like a street bum begging for cash. The past is like garbage, you can try to throw it away but you'll only be awoken by the raccoons in the night, looking out the window and seeing your history strewn across the slick, rain-wet gutter.
I looked down, the glare of the shattered ice drawing me in like a blonde-hooker with a black eye. His reflection stared back at me, a nightmare unending, clawing at the back of my eyes, an itch unscratched. And I had to scratch.
Doggs there is no such thing as a bad character in the hands of a good writer.
Except Shriek.
and maybe Spider-Woman.
Spider-Woman could be a cool character, she just doesn't work when written by Bendis. The trouble is nobody really gives a shit about her, but a writer could play on that. She's the Superhero that other Superheroes don't care about and don't trust, and she has to operate very much alone. You could make a Spider-Woman comic where she invovled ins espionage etc very tense and cool.
I just wish someone somewhere would make it easier to care about her
Maybe a mini where she's always saving the day and no one notices because she's Spider-Woman and nobody cares about her
That would work. Nobody in the MU cares about her when she saves the day but we do. You feel a little sorry for her. She kicks ass but still gets a raw deal from all those other dick supers.
Shes got a crappy costume and shes under exposed (story wise), she needs a total overhaul to matter. Theres no reason why she should be a hero at the minute when shes much better at being a bad-ass spy.
Amazing Spider-Man has been great, Tex. You have to realize the ASM thread is ike 90% DarkWarrior. Grim Hunt hasn't been anything groundbreaking but Shed is quite possibly the best Lizard story ever written.
I did preface my statement that ASM has gotten better right after the Electro Gauntlet story (which was stupid why does the Daily Bugle get a bailout yet no other newspaper). Before that you would get one good story out of 4 or 5 issues, but now it seems to be the reverse since Spring.
You could say April Showers brought Aunt May flowers
I ain't no hater just to hate, brahs and brassieres, I can accept when there's been something good.
Doggs there is no such thing as a bad character in the hands of a good writer.
Except Shriek.
and maybe Spider-Woman.
Spider-Woman could be a cool character, she just doesn't work when written by Bendis. The trouble is nobody really gives a shit about her, but a writer could play on that. She's the Superhero that other Superheroes don't care about and don't trust, and she has to operate very much alone. You could make a Spider-Woman comic where she invovled ins espionage etc very tense and cool.
This was basically what happened in the short lived ongoing written by Bendis
Yeah but it was written by Bendis. We know she's boring when written by him. Let somebody else do a mini or something, raise interest for a solo ongoing.
Hey so I'm really liking the Avengers main book right now, JrJr's art is great, the writing is pretty good and the characters I can get behind, though Tony is still a dick. The only real bitch I have is this, why are Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Wolverine and Spider-Woman on this team? There's some pretty high-level things going on and all of those characters are either in or could be easily put in the New Avengers book, which is much more of a street level team and their area. Whereas when it comes to time-streams and enemies like Kang etc If you can't hang with dudes like Iron Man, Thor, Protector etc then you seem a bit superfluous. I mean, Cap can work because his indestructable shield and tactical capabilities, and it would be even cooler if iron Man upgraded Bucky's arm to give him some serious power, but so many of these guys just seem to be hanging around. Hawkeye and Spider-Woman are just saying lines, not really doing anything, Wolverine just got bitch-slapped, I just don't see why they are in that team and the New Avengers too.
I mean, to join the premier Avengers you should meet one of two specs. Either you have high level power or you have some sort of genius intellect. The only one who can get away without either should be the team leader who needs to be a tactical expert and excellent motivator.
It's more of a niggling issue than anything but it is there whenever I read this otherwise fun comic.
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Spider-Man can fit in among the core team if you play up his skills rather than relegating him to commentary. He actually helped Tony and Protector with the time machine, though he was probably just acting as an assistant.
But yeah, Wolverine feels superfluous, largely because he doesn't have good chemistry with anyone else on the team or history with any of the people they fight. He's just sort of there, being himself.
Also, it's kind of weird that they're using the Next Avengers for this story. Half of the kids are children of people who aren't even on the team.
The only real bitch I have is this, why are Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Wolverine and Spider-Woman on this team?
Because he's a fucking Avenger, that's why. He beat up Iron Man with simple arrows even though Tony has really good armor.
That's true. He is badass, and don't get me wrong, I love Hawkeye. But why not the New Avengers, where he would fit in so much better? I'm not an old school Avengers fan, though I have read the series religously since the Bendis reboot with NA #1, and to me it just seems like there are better choices. Maybe this is sacrilege, but I liked the idea of NA being the street team and the premier Avengers being the proper big guns, and Hawkeye to me isn't really a big gun.
As Robos said Spider-Man can fit if they give him more science time, and of course he does have the advantage of his spidey-senses plus his very large realm of experience (if it's a bad guy, chances are Spidey knows who they are. If only he wasn't so clueless all the time...)
And for the record, Noh Var built that machine. Tony just made stupid comments and probably just broke his concentration with his silly "You will work for me now!"
While Bendis doesn't write Noh-Varr like Morrison wrote him, at least he's still written as an intelligent badass.
I really like Noh Var in this. Like you said he's an intelligent badass but he still has that touch of superiority. He knows his machine isn't broken, he knows that humans can't handle Kree technology yet. I like that aspect to him.
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Someone needs to get that shit done pronto.
Maybe.
But...on the bright side...he's involved in a Pak event, "Chaos War". And he'll have his God Squad again. And it looks like we'll start getting some good Pak Hulk stories again, now that Loeb has spent his load on Rulk.
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Well he isn't really dead anyway.
To hell with you and your rationality, Furu (if that is even your real name).
A writer is going to salvage Red Hulk by depowering him and finally killing Ross. Rulk cannot exist in the main MU because hes a mary sue and a huge, huge dick.
And they said he wasn't dead pretty much as soon as he was "dead." Like, right after his funeral Cho found out he wasn't in the afterlife.
the end to everything you said happened in Hulk can be suffixed with "and then they got better"
so yes, things happened, but they didn't really affect anything
nah doggie
you just ain't thinking outside the box
you are letting NERD RAGE cloud your mind.
Now it's time for Red Hulk to join the Secret Avengers
"I, Bruce Banner, awoke from my cosmic satellite induced coma following my battle against Sentry*. The Rulk, as I thought, was just a bad dream conjured from my temporarily retarded mind. The world made sense again"
[*See World War Hulk #24 - ED]
all taking over countries that aren't American enough
Wait, Bruce Banner is Max Payne now?
Except Shriek.
and maybe Spider-Woman.
Spider-Woman could be a cool character, she just doesn't work when written by Bendis. The trouble is nobody really gives a shit about her, but a writer could play on that. She's the Superhero that other Superheroes don't care about and don't trust, and she has to operate very much alone. You could make a Spider-Woman comic where she invovled ins espionage etc very tense and cool.
I just wish someone somewhere would make it easier to care about her
Maybe a mini where she's always saving the day and no one notices because she's Spider-Woman and nobody cares about her
That would work. Nobody in the MU cares about her when she saves the day but we do. You feel a little sorry for her. She kicks ass but still gets a raw deal from all those other dick supers.
I mean, even Carnage is a better character than Shriek
1. Being defeated by a gun that shoots happiness
2. Stealing the Silver Surfer's Surboard
3. Being ripped in half
I did preface my statement that ASM has gotten better right after the Electro Gauntlet story (which was stupid why does the Daily Bugle get a bailout yet no other newspaper). Before that you would get one good story out of 4 or 5 issues, but now it seems to be the reverse since Spring.
You could say April Showers brought Aunt May flowers
I ain't no hater just to hate, brahs and brassieres, I can accept when there's been something good.
That's an interesting philosophy. Too bad loeb does not appear to be eager to abandon the big red retard.
This was basically what happened in the short lived ongoing written by Bendis
It was still boring as hell
Hey so I'm really liking the Avengers main book right now, JrJr's art is great, the writing is pretty good and the characters I can get behind, though Tony is still a dick. The only real bitch I have is this, why are Hawkeye, Spider-Man, Wolverine and Spider-Woman on this team? There's some pretty high-level things going on and all of those characters are either in or could be easily put in the New Avengers book, which is much more of a street level team and their area. Whereas when it comes to time-streams and enemies like Kang etc If you can't hang with dudes like Iron Man, Thor, Protector etc then you seem a bit superfluous. I mean, Cap can work because his indestructable shield and tactical capabilities, and it would be even cooler if iron Man upgraded Bucky's arm to give him some serious power, but so many of these guys just seem to be hanging around. Hawkeye and Spider-Woman are just saying lines, not really doing anything, Wolverine just got bitch-slapped, I just don't see why they are in that team and the New Avengers too.
I mean, to join the premier Avengers you should meet one of two specs. Either you have high level power or you have some sort of genius intellect. The only one who can get away without either should be the team leader who needs to be a tactical expert and excellent motivator.
It's more of a niggling issue than anything but it is there whenever I read this otherwise fun comic.
Because he's a fucking Avenger, that's why. He beat up Iron Man with simple arrows even though Tony has really good armor.
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But yeah, Wolverine feels superfluous, largely because he doesn't have good chemistry with anyone else on the team or history with any of the people they fight. He's just sort of there, being himself.
Also, it's kind of weird that they're using the Next Avengers for this story. Half of the kids are children of people who aren't even on the team.
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That's true. He is badass, and don't get me wrong, I love Hawkeye. But why not the New Avengers, where he would fit in so much better? I'm not an old school Avengers fan, though I have read the series religously since the Bendis reboot with NA #1, and to me it just seems like there are better choices. Maybe this is sacrilege, but I liked the idea of NA being the street team and the premier Avengers being the proper big guns, and Hawkeye to me isn't really a big gun.
As Robos said Spider-Man can fit if they give him more science time, and of course he does have the advantage of his spidey-senses plus his very large realm of experience (if it's a bad guy, chances are Spidey knows who they are. If only he wasn't so clueless all the time...)
And for the record, Noh Var built that machine. Tony just made stupid comments and probably just broke his concentration with his silly "You will work for me now!"
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I really like Noh Var in this. Like you said he's an intelligent badass but he still has that touch of superiority. He knows his machine isn't broken, he knows that humans can't handle Kree technology yet. I like that aspect to him.
I liked that he was at least doing something that LOOKED science-y.
PS Spider-Man is pretty powerful did you know he beat the whole X-Men team singlehanded?
He was, in the words of Nightcrawler, awesome (apparantly).