Fucking shit I cannot get this game to stop losing packets like it's 1962
Like seriously nothing else running, not AIM, MSN or skype, nothing else active on my network. And it's still losing packets. And this is the only game this is happening with, MW2, L4D2 all rock solid.
Time to see if there's a BF BC2 network diagnostic tool that isn't a virus
EDIT found the problem, Realtek on board sound drivers can cause the game to behave as though you have heavy packet loss.
Did they even fucking test this piece of shit before throwing it out the door? What a fucking amateur hour shit show.
Man I'm trying to get all bronze stars with my recon shit being the last stuff. I'm horrible with the guns and I feel like a bad team mate now other then my exceptional motion ball assists.
Man I'm trying to get all bronze stars with my recon shit being the last stuff. I'm horrible with the guns and I feel like a bad team mate now other then my exceptional motion ball assists.
Stupid bolt action.
Not being able to do well as a recon with the sniper rifles is how you know you're a scrub and far from pro.
This game is getting impossible to play. I rubberband severely and I can't tolerate it anymore.
Gonna call my ISP on monday, which is Verizon DSL if anyone is interested, but is there anything else that I can do for the moment to improve things? This is ridiculous.
And no it's not my fucking sister's fault, all she does most of the time is surf the net but when I asked her about it today she wasn't even on her laptop. I had to replace my modem after my old one died about a month ago and it was slower but jesus christ I had no idea it was this slow.
This game is getting impossible to play. I rubberband severely and I can't tolerate it anymore.
Gonna call my ISP on monday, which is Verizon DSL if anyone is interested, but is there anything else that I can do for the moment to improve things? This is ridiculous.
And no it's not my fucking sister's fault, all she does most of the time is surf the net but when I asked her about it today she wasn't even on her laptop. I had to replace my modem after my old one died about a month ago and it was slower but jesus christ I had no idea it was this slow.
Do you have the same problem with other games and junk?
This game is getting impossible to play. I rubberband severely and I can't tolerate it anymore.
Gonna call my ISP on monday, which is Verizon DSL if anyone is interested, but is there anything else that I can do for the moment to improve things? This is ridiculous.
And no it's not my fucking sister's fault, all she does most of the time is surf the net but when I asked her about it today she wasn't even on her laptop. I had to replace my modem after my old one died about a month ago and it was slower but jesus christ I had no idea it was this slow.
Do you have the same problem with other games and junk?
I haven't played TF2 for a while so this is really the only game that I've been playing online lately.
Premier Kakos is telling me to change my .ini file.
EDIT: And ping various things in command prompt.
This game is getting impossible to play. I rubberband severely and I can't tolerate it anymore.
Gonna call my ISP on monday, which is Verizon DSL if anyone is interested, but is there anything else that I can do for the moment to improve things? This is ridiculous.
And no it's not my fucking sister's fault, all she does most of the time is surf the net but when I asked her about it today she wasn't even on her laptop. I had to replace my modem after my old one died about a month ago and it was slower but jesus christ I had no idea it was this slow.
The word on those fine forums (there isn't actual technical support for BCBF2, amazing) is that the bulk of the issues for rubberbanding unique to this game comes from your on-board sound. There's something funky about how this game runs, such that your network performance is linked somehow to your audio performance. Anyways, most people clear up their rubberbanding by disabling their on-board sound chips and running a PCI soundcard or a USB headset.
This game is getting impossible to play. I rubberband severely and I can't tolerate it anymore.
Gonna call my ISP on monday, which is Verizon DSL if anyone is interested, but is there anything else that I can do for the moment to improve things? This is ridiculous.
And no it's not my fucking sister's fault, all she does most of the time is surf the net but when I asked her about it today she wasn't even on her laptop. I had to replace my modem after my old one died about a month ago and it was slower but jesus christ I had no idea it was this slow.
The word on those fine forums (there isn't actual technical support for BCBF2, amazing) is that the bulk of the issues for rubberbanding unique to this game comes from your on-board sound. There's something funky about how this game runs, such that your network performance is linked somehow to your audio performance. Anyways, most people clear up their rubberbanding by disabling their on-board sound chips and running a PCI soundcard or a USB headset.
I'm not joking.
I've got a jack based headset I'm using now, just bought it because my usb one died cause it got so old. Somebody is going to have to walk me through that.
Actually this looks more like an ISP problem. Refreshing the server list just shows how much my ping jumps up and down.
Guess I'll have to find something else to do until Monday!
Grenades damage for 110 over a 1 meter radius. The maximum range for grenades is 8 meters, and if the damage falloff is linear, then a loss of 15.7 damage will occur every meter after that. This means that the effective guaranteed kill range is 1.64 meters.
Engineers who have the Carl Gustav enjoy a 2.5m effective guaranteed kill range with the same range as the grenade. On face, this weapon seems superior.
However, a drawback of the Carl Gustav is that it must be used separate from the wielded weapon and almost ensures death if surprised during reload.
Alright, so let's postulate. Grenades take 7.50 seconds to reload from one ammo crate. With two ammo crates, the reload rate for grenades is halved to 3.75 seconds. The fuse of the grenade is 3.0 seconds, and the throw time is 0.8 seconds. This is the larger of the two numbers, so it is unprofitable to commit to more than 2 ammo packs in one place. If you throw grenades as fast as you collect them from the ammo crates, the rate of grenade explosion will be the greater of the two numbers, which is 3.8. Compare that to the 5.80 second reload rate of the CG.
Therefore, a single person can emit an 8 meter area of effect explosive every 3.8 seconds. The reason that this is a threat to the spammability of the Carl Gustav is twofold. First, every class has the capability to throw grenades. The amount of organization necessary to accumulate grenade throws is substantially less than forcing teammates to go engineer and concentrate fire on the same area. The location of the ammo boxes also lends to automatic teamwork. Only two assault classes are required to generate this mechanism, with the rest able to be varied classes in turn, only stopping once every three seconds to throw a grenade.
Second, throwing grenades does not detract from each class' ability to use their own weapons and tools. Should an explosion miss its intended target, all grenade users will by default have their main weapon out and ready.
The 3.8 second continuous explosion rate coupled with the ability of all members of the team to participate provided that only two players are working together makes repetitive grenade use ideal for explosive suppression.
What do you do with this information? The next time you see two ammo crates huddled together, you might wish to remember to throw a grenade every 4 seconds if you decide you want to spend some time in that area. If you're an assault, try establishing ammo crates in pairs separate from the present ammo site to expand your explosive suppression coverage.
This is really just a reminder to keep an eye out for dual ammo crates and ponder a little bit on all the opportunities these give you. Perhaps you'll come up with an even better strategy than Carl Gustav spam. At any rate, it'll be fun to watch the game evolve as people adopt newer, MORE EFFECTIVE strategies and adapt to them rather than stagnating in the same playstyle forever.
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Man I'm actually enjoying using the rpg instead of the gustav. It seems like it should be the default and the gustav should be a niche, because you have to put more thought into where you point it to get kills (unless you're close up and blowing yourself and someone else up by panic clicking)
A perfectly arched RPG brings too much glee
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edited April 2010
The AT4 is slowly becoming my favorite launcher. Can be dumb fired. Can be laser guided. Does great armor damage. And it messes up MCOM's like no ones buisness. Arming Mcoms is secondary if I got rockets available. Line up, dumb fire, reload, dumb fire reload, dumb fire (ad nausium). Usually I can get 3 - 5 off before a sniper realizes what happened. Find new angle and repeat. Been getting alot of MCOM destructions this way. Course if line of site permits I will always use a stationary AT gun to drop MCOMs
you can't go wrong with shotgun slugs. Looking at the statistics, the 870MCS may actually be superior to the neo, due to the equality of the slugs and the fact that the MCS takes less time to chamber the shot (even though it takes a longer time to reload each slug), and the MCS has more rounds.
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I just "suicided" myself for n'th time trying to use the mortar - apparently if there is so much as a wisp of grass anywhere on my screen when I am trying to lock on to something then this is interpreted as me wanting to mortar the shit out of exactly where I am crouching.
Shitty bloody aiming system ><
This is my favorite way to die. Call in the mortar, rage at someone for having magic X-ray vision because they managed to see me at the back of a bush, then get rewarded with an "Epic Fail" death screen. The best part is having nobody to blame but myself.
In other shrubbery-related news (for those who haven't figured this out yet), wookie suit plus smallish bushes equal tons of hidden fun. Put away the rifle and enjoy being effectively invisible. This is particularly great when you're on defense and the bases shift; just find a bush and hide. All it takes is just not moving a whole lot. Wait for a juicy moment, then mortar strike, motion sensor throw, and snipe until the enemy team gets guys respawning who can find you through the kill cam.
You'll almost certainly get killed, but nabbing a half-dozen unrezzed tickets plus wiping out things like attacking tanks is well worth the tradeoff. And if you're a decent shot and take a silenced rifle on a non-kill-cam server, well, have fun flanking all those dudes running up to the front who can't figure out where the hell you are.
Hardcore mode is so broke I can't believe they haven't patched it yet. The enemy got a helicopter and we couldn't move out of spawn, I literally did not move for 5 minutes from getting hard spawn camped. I would spawn in the same spot every time (not sure why) and I would die instantly to one guy. I saw two other people spawn on my death screen and die instantly.
Also they have to patch the helicopter, it is impossible to kill. I had my entire squad trying to take it down and we couldn't even hurt it. It is just too hard on the console. It moves faster than the tanks can turn and the turrets are too easy to take out.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
edited April 2010
Yeah I've been saying that for a while about helicopters only for everyone to tell me "Hurr just shoot them down it's so easy". Helicopters on the 360 are a total bastard to shoot down in any way and the number of brutal spawn rapes I've had from helicopters is becoming really annoying.
I have to admit I've never seen a Hardcore helicopter spawn rape though, that must be even more brutal than normal.
Yeah I've been saying that for a while about helicopters only for everyone to tell me "Hurr just shoot them down it's so easy".
Dang that must be as annoying as, hypothetically, 360 people going on about how all of the weapons are balanced or server admins are tyrants.
Hypothetically, of course.
It's not as hypothetically annoying as you are.
Hypothetically, of course.
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Yeah I've been saying that for a while about helicopters only for everyone to tell me "Hurr just shoot them down it's so easy".
Dang that must be as annoying as, hypothetically, 360 people going on about how all of the weapons are balanced or server admins are tyrants.
Hypothetically, of course.
It's not as hypothetically annoying as you are.
Hypothetically, of course.
It is pretty dumb how often people make comments about the game on system's they don't own it on. I can understand comparing anecdotes to see how the balance differs, but a lot of this is just getting annoying and makes no sense.
Yeah I've been saying that for a while about helicopters only for everyone to tell me "Hurr just shoot them down it's so easy". Helicopters on the 360 are a total bastard to shoot down in any way and the number of brutal spawn rapes I've had from helicopters is becoming really annoying.
People telling you 'Hurrrrr it is fucking easy' are also console people.
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AegeriTiny wee bacteriumsPlateau of LengRegistered Userregular
Yeah I've been saying that for a while about helicopters only for everyone to tell me "Hurr just shoot them down it's so easy".
Dang that must be as annoying as, hypothetically, 360 people going on about how all of the weapons are balanced or server admins are tyrants.
Hypothetically, of course.
It's not as hypothetically annoying as you are.
Hypothetically, of course.
It is pretty dumb how often people make comments about the game on system's they don't own it on. I can understand comparing anecdotes to see how the balance differs, but a lot of this is just getting annoying and makes no sense.
I've actually played both versions, my friends play BC2 online at an internet cafe and so I go play it with them. I don't know if the PC CG whoring or 360 Helicopters annoy me more. I think in the end the CG probably wins.
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Like seriously nothing else running, not AIM, MSN or skype, nothing else active on my network. And it's still losing packets. And this is the only game this is happening with, MW2, L4D2 all rock solid.
Time to see if there's a BF BC2 network diagnostic tool that isn't a virus
EDIT found the problem, Realtek on board sound drivers can cause the game to behave as though you have heavy packet loss.
Did they even fucking test this piece of shit before throwing it out the door? What a fucking amateur hour shit show.
Stupid bolt action.
Not being able to do well as a recon with the sniper rifles is how you know you're a scrub and far from pro.
Plus pros stink and I smell of sweet peaches.
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Gonna call my ISP on monday, which is Verizon DSL if anyone is interested, but is there anything else that I can do for the moment to improve things? This is ridiculous.
And no it's not my fucking sister's fault, all she does most of the time is surf the net but when I asked her about it today she wasn't even on her laptop. I had to replace my modem after my old one died about a month ago and it was slower but jesus christ I had no idea it was this slow.
Do you have the same problem with other games and junk?
Premier Kakos is telling me to change my .ini file.
EDIT: And ping various things in command prompt.
The word on those fine forums (there isn't actual technical support for BCBF2, amazing) is that the bulk of the issues for rubberbanding unique to this game comes from your on-board sound. There's something funky about how this game runs, such that your network performance is linked somehow to your audio performance. Anyways, most people clear up their rubberbanding by disabling their on-board sound chips and running a PCI soundcard or a USB headset.
I'm not joking.
I've got a jack based headset I'm using now, just bought it because my usb one died cause it got so old. Somebody is going to have to walk me through that.
I bet mines would work if I sprayed like an entire can of Dust-off on it.
I altered my settings from RenderAheadLimit=2 to 0, gonna try this again.
Are you using a laptop? I flipped out trying to get my headset to work with realtek drivers on various 64-bit OS'.
GOOD LUCK TO YOU
Guess I'll have to find something else to do until Monday!
I'm using a PC. I'm running XP too.
Yeah fuck you realtek THANKS FOR HIDING THE MICROPHONE BOOST IN SUCH A TERRIBLE LOCATION.
Engineers who have the Carl Gustav enjoy a 2.5m effective guaranteed kill range with the same range as the grenade. On face, this weapon seems superior.
However, a drawback of the Carl Gustav is that it must be used separate from the wielded weapon and almost ensures death if surprised during reload.
Alright, so let's postulate. Grenades take 7.50 seconds to reload from one ammo crate. With two ammo crates, the reload rate for grenades is halved to 3.75 seconds. The fuse of the grenade is 3.0 seconds, and the throw time is 0.8 seconds. This is the larger of the two numbers, so it is unprofitable to commit to more than 2 ammo packs in one place. If you throw grenades as fast as you collect them from the ammo crates, the rate of grenade explosion will be the greater of the two numbers, which is 3.8. Compare that to the 5.80 second reload rate of the CG.
Therefore, a single person can emit an 8 meter area of effect explosive every 3.8 seconds. The reason that this is a threat to the spammability of the Carl Gustav is twofold. First, every class has the capability to throw grenades. The amount of organization necessary to accumulate grenade throws is substantially less than forcing teammates to go engineer and concentrate fire on the same area. The location of the ammo boxes also lends to automatic teamwork. Only two assault classes are required to generate this mechanism, with the rest able to be varied classes in turn, only stopping once every three seconds to throw a grenade.
Second, throwing grenades does not detract from each class' ability to use their own weapons and tools. Should an explosion miss its intended target, all grenade users will by default have their main weapon out and ready.
The 3.8 second continuous explosion rate coupled with the ability of all members of the team to participate provided that only two players are working together makes repetitive grenade use ideal for explosive suppression.
What do you do with this information? The next time you see two ammo crates huddled together, you might wish to remember to throw a grenade every 4 seconds if you decide you want to spend some time in that area. If you're an assault, try establishing ammo crates in pairs separate from the present ammo site to expand your explosive suppression coverage.
This is really just a reminder to keep an eye out for dual ammo crates and ponder a little bit on all the opportunities these give you. Perhaps you'll come up with an even better strategy than Carl Gustav spam. At any rate, it'll be fun to watch the game evolve as people adopt newer, MORE EFFECTIVE strategies and adapt to them rather than stagnating in the same playstyle forever.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
A perfectly arched RPG brings too much glee
Game runs just as well as when I was using an Audigy 2ZS (Removed because mic doesn't work on Win7).
I've managed to get my game behaving fairly well by going in and editing some registry values
First step is to disable your Realtek device in the hardware manager, if that helps you know you need to go a registry editing
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
This is my favorite way to die. Call in the mortar, rage at someone for having magic X-ray vision because they managed to see me at the back of a bush, then get rewarded with an "Epic Fail" death screen. The best part is having nobody to blame but myself.
In other shrubbery-related news (for those who haven't figured this out yet), wookie suit plus smallish bushes equal tons of hidden fun. Put away the rifle and enjoy being effectively invisible. This is particularly great when you're on defense and the bases shift; just find a bush and hide. All it takes is just not moving a whole lot. Wait for a juicy moment, then mortar strike, motion sensor throw, and snipe until the enemy team gets guys respawning who can find you through the kill cam.
You'll almost certainly get killed, but nabbing a half-dozen unrezzed tickets plus wiping out things like attacking tanks is well worth the tradeoff. And if you're a decent shot and take a silenced rifle on a non-kill-cam server, well, have fun flanking all those dudes running up to the front who can't figure out where the hell you are.
Also they have to patch the helicopter, it is impossible to kill. I had my entire squad trying to take it down and we couldn't even hurt it. It is just too hard on the console. It moves faster than the tanks can turn and the turrets are too easy to take out.
I have to admit I've never seen a Hardcore helicopter spawn rape though, that must be even more brutal than normal.
Hypothetically, of course.
It's not as hypothetically annoying as you are.
Hypothetically, of course.
It is pretty dumb how often people make comments about the game on system's they don't own it on. I can understand comparing anecdotes to see how the balance differs, but a lot of this is just getting annoying and makes no sense.
People telling you 'Hurrrrr it is fucking easy' are also console people.
I've actually played both versions, my friends play BC2 online at an internet cafe and so I go play it with them. I don't know if the PC CG whoring or 360 Helicopters annoy me more. I think in the end the CG probably wins.
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