immediately storm into a sporting good store/walmart/grocery store and risk the chance of getting shot or stabbed by freaked out civillians, and possibly bitten by zombies, or waiting until the panic dies down then go scrounge about?
Controlled and surgical movement is the best option. Any time someone goes running around with a weapon, screaming, innocents will die. And by innocents, I mean the bottle of single-malt scotch that is hidden behind the counter at the gun store.
Yes. I would also hit up the liquor store. Wild Turkey 101? Anesthetic and pain killer. And pharmacies would be out of vicodin/percoset. NEVER CAN BE TOO PREPARED.
t naporeon: guns and ammo are never in short store here. Food? Yes, food and clothing would be something that would need to be retrieved pretty quick.
immediately storm into a sporting good store/walmart/grocery store and risk the chance of getting shot or stabbed by freaked out civillians, and possibly bitten by zombies, or waiting until the panic dies down then go scrounge about?
Controlled and surgical movement is the best option. Any time someone goes running around with a weapon, screaming, innocents will die. And by innocents, I mean the bottle of single-malt scotch that is hidden behind the counter at the gun store.
Yes. I would also hit up the liquor store. Wild Turkey 101? Anesthetic and pain killer. And pharmacies would be out of vicodin/percoset. NEVER CAN BE TOO PREPARED.
t naporeon: guns and ammo are never in short store here. Food? Yes, food and clothing would be something that would need to be retrieved pretty quick.
can we bite a broomstick at least?
Yeah dude.
At any moment my truck can become a emergency response vehicle. Gotta take a dump? Folding shovel and 2 rolls of TP in the tool box. Tires low on air? Refill. Emergency drink required? Whiskey in the toolbox. ETC ETC.
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Dudes, I think the best melee weapon against zombies would be those half-shovel/half-hoe things you use to trim the grass along sidewalks: useful both horitculturally, and for braining the shambling horde.
guys the optimum non-projectile anti-zombie weapon is, in fact, the steel crowbar and i can explain at length as to why.
Do so.
i'm thinking
lightweight, destructive, easy to carry, easy to store when not carrying, stabbing, garroting...i might have missed a few
Lightweight?
Maybe we're thinking of different things, here.
also useful for opening locked doors and crates and lifting manholes.
Also - I think maybe in place of a van we should look into a bus.
I've learned that it may be a bad idea to leave a slot down the side to chainsaw zombies attempting to climb up the sides, however.
In order to have a proper convoy, you need, like, at least four vehicles.
I vote for a semi trailer with a modified cargo container like they use on ships. They are virtually indestructable, and once you add some murder holes, you are good to go.
crowbars are superior to fire axes, although both are useful and good quality weapons.
crowbars are lighter and easier to carry and, if you know what you are doing, actually capable of being used as an effective melee weapon in even the closest of quarters.
fire axes generally rely on a good range of motion to get an effective swing. a crowbar can be gripped directly under the neck (the proper term for the underside of the hook) and punched forward with about the weight and force of a pair of brace knuckles. a fire axe at such an emergency range is far more unwieldy.
a common mistake when using a crowbar as a weapon is to swing at the head with the face (the edge of the hook) outwards towards the head. this is a mistake. more than likely, you're going to penetrate the skull and get the entirety of the bell (the hook as a whole) lodged in, which will waste time as you have to struggle to dislodge it.
a better way is to swing with the face out, striking with the knee (the back end of the hook) of the bar. Full weight of the whole bell, but without the penetration. it will shatter any human skull with an average adult male's force of swing, completely disabling any undead and without a messy lodging process.
it also makes for a more accurate swing than a fire axe. an axe aims with the edge, and if you score a glancing blow in an angle of the face or head, you're more than likely to simply strike downwards and bite into shoulder or neck, but not with enough force to fully decapitate or disable. and then you've got your axe lodged in a zombie that's still coming at you.
additionally, the only true point of difference between a fire axe and a crowbar as a tool is that an axe can be used to chop down barricades and doors. in many instances, this is actually less efficient and more time consuming than you might think, and it generally takes actual firefighter's training to effectively pull off. prying apart or open such barricades or doors, either with a crowbar or an axe itself (most modern fire axes have a pry-bar on the opposite end of the head from the blade) is more optimal for the average wielder, and in this circumstance the crowbar, optimized for such usage, is in fact quite superior.
an axe is handy, for a multitude of reasons, but given a choice between the two i'd take a crowbar any time.
i think the last time i had this conversation i thought a bus would be a good idea and then someone said it would be too easy for a horde to tip it over
In order to have a proper convoy, you need, like, at least four vehicles.
I vote for a semi trailer with a modified cargo container like they use on ships. They are virtually indestructable, and once you add some murder holes, you are good to go.
convoy... right. Gotcha.
I think a big question is do we make each vehicle capable of everything necessary to survive, or do we look for specialized vehicles, ie water tanker truck, refridgerated cargo truck for food, etc?
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EW is reporting that the Will Smith "I am Legend" movie stars him fighting zombies.
For the convoy I would think you'd want smaller all terrain vehicles, main roads could be jammed, and even if you brought a vehicle capable of clearing them, that is time standing still.
You'd need more to carry all the supplies but it means any road is open to a fast get a way.
A basic armored security van would be better than a normal van or bus because it would be much harder to tip over and has more mass and therefore more momentum even at low speeds. Tracked vehicles like construction machines would have an advantage as well. I'd go so far as to say we should have someone lead the way with a huge caterpillar bull-dozer and crush/shove the hordes out of the path of the rest of the convoy.
If you really wanted to pack a lot of gear a fire engine might not be a bad idea, though the personnel-carrying ability would not be much. If we're running rescue/resupply missions, having a ladder to reach the top of buildings could really come in useful. Much safer than entering a building at ground-level.
We should also employ pikes as long-range melee weapons, as you can effectively hold off zombies at further distance.
For the convoy I would think you'd want smaller all terrain vehicles, main roads could be jammed, and even if you brought a vehicle capable of clearing them, that is time standing still.
You'd need more to carry all the supplies but it means any road is open to a fast get a way.
but wouldn't that require frequent resupply stops in populated areas?
For the convoy I would think you'd want smaller all terrain vehicles, main roads could be jammed, and even if you brought a vehicle capable of clearing them, that is time standing still.
You'd need more to carry all the supplies but it means any road is open to a fast get a way.
but wouldn't that require frequent resupply stops in populated areas?
If you go for one driver and one shotgun, you can carry plenty of supplies in the back and on the roofs. It'd also make resupply raids faster and safer.
For the convoy I would think you'd want smaller all terrain vehicles, main roads could be jammed, and even if you brought a vehicle capable of clearing them, that is time standing still.
You'd need more to carry all the supplies but it means any road is open to a fast get a way.
but wouldn't that require frequent resupply stops in populated areas?
If you go for one driver and one shotgun, you can carry plenty of supplies in the back and on the roofs. It'd also make resupply raids faster and safer.
I think we'd want SOME all-terrain vehicles, but in the main, I think you also need some larger supply vehicles.
Also, the water truck was a GREAT plan, babyeatingjesus.
For the convoy I would think you'd want smaller all terrain vehicles, main roads could be jammed, and even if you brought a vehicle capable of clearing them, that is time standing still.
You'd need more to carry all the supplies but it means any road is open to a fast get a way.
but wouldn't that require frequent resupply stops in populated areas?
If you go for one driver and one shotgun, you can carry plenty of supplies in the back and on the roofs. It'd also make resupply raids faster and safer.
I think we'd want SOME all-terrain vehicles, but in the main, I think you also need some larger supply vehicles.
Also, the water truck was a GREAT plan, babyeatingjesus.
Okay, but I will have to be driving one of them.
And when you guys get stuck on a zombie infested overpass I will not be there.
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Yeah dude.
At any moment my truck can become a emergency response vehicle. Gotta take a dump? Folding shovel and 2 rolls of TP in the tool box. Tires low on air? Refill. Emergency drink required? Whiskey in the toolbox. ETC ETC.
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Guys, just bring along what you think is best and we'll start loading up the van
I AM OFF TO GO POOP NOW
i'm thinking
lightweight, destructive, easy to carry, easy to store when not carrying, stabbing, garroting...i might have missed a few
Maybe we're thinking of different things, here.
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Also - I think maybe in place of a van we should look into a bus.
I've learned that it may be a bad idea to leave a slot down the side to chainsaw zombies attempting to climb up the sides, however.
I vote for a semi trailer with a modified cargo container like they use on ships. They are virtually indestructable, and once you add some murder holes, you are good to go.
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Silly fetus ingesting messiah
We need to find gem stones to unlock doors
And occassionally push boxes and move statues to find the gem stones
crowbars are lighter and easier to carry and, if you know what you are doing, actually capable of being used as an effective melee weapon in even the closest of quarters.
fire axes generally rely on a good range of motion to get an effective swing. a crowbar can be gripped directly under the neck (the proper term for the underside of the hook) and punched forward with about the weight and force of a pair of brace knuckles. a fire axe at such an emergency range is far more unwieldy.
a common mistake when using a crowbar as a weapon is to swing at the head with the face (the edge of the hook) outwards towards the head. this is a mistake. more than likely, you're going to penetrate the skull and get the entirety of the bell (the hook as a whole) lodged in, which will waste time as you have to struggle to dislodge it.
a better way is to swing with the face out, striking with the knee (the back end of the hook) of the bar. Full weight of the whole bell, but without the penetration. it will shatter any human skull with an average adult male's force of swing, completely disabling any undead and without a messy lodging process.
it also makes for a more accurate swing than a fire axe. an axe aims with the edge, and if you score a glancing blow in an angle of the face or head, you're more than likely to simply strike downwards and bite into shoulder or neck, but not with enough force to fully decapitate or disable. and then you've got your axe lodged in a zombie that's still coming at you.
additionally, the only true point of difference between a fire axe and a crowbar as a tool is that an axe can be used to chop down barricades and doors. in many instances, this is actually less efficient and more time consuming than you might think, and it generally takes actual firefighter's training to effectively pull off. prying apart or open such barricades or doors, either with a crowbar or an axe itself (most modern fire axes have a pry-bar on the opposite end of the head from the blade) is more optimal for the average wielder, and in this circumstance the crowbar, optimized for such usage, is in fact quite superior.
an axe is handy, for a multitude of reasons, but given a choice between the two i'd take a crowbar any time.
I think a big question is do we make each vehicle capable of everything necessary to survive, or do we look for specialized vehicles, ie water tanker truck, refridgerated cargo truck for food, etc?
I thought it was vampires?
Now that would be a sticky situation.
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They're making it zombies so it's more marketable
Nobody likes those faggy vampires anymore
both against human opponents and several different kinds of undead
it's actually quite an efficient choice of armament.
You'd need more to carry all the supplies but it means any road is open to a fast get a way.
If you really wanted to pack a lot of gear a fire engine might not be a bad idea, though the personnel-carrying ability would not be much. If we're running rescue/resupply missions, having a ladder to reach the top of buildings could really come in useful. Much safer than entering a building at ground-level.
We should also employ pikes as long-range melee weapons, as you can effectively hold off zombies at further distance.
Interview With a Vampire should be remade with zombies, and Brad Pitt would still be the hot pedophile main character dude. I'd pay to watch it.
i will look them up, but there are numerous typos and it is pretty cheesy, at it's best.
fun though.
Also, the water truck was a GREAT plan, babyeatingjesus.
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I mean
What's the plan
I know how to siphon from cars, I will suck my lips off
And when you guys get stuck on a zombie infested overpass I will not be there.
Northern Ontario
best place in the whole world in such a circumstance.
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Do we eventually find ourselves a fortress
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Pony is a quickdraw, if you know what I mean