Without being able to self sustain holing up is pointless.
it's essential.
survivalism is nice and all guys.
but the important part is living.
you can survive and scrape by, miserably denying undeath, day after day until you eventually give out
it's a harsh, miserable existence making you not much more than what you are resisting.
See, I disagree, here. Hunter-gatherers have, historically, had the highest amount of leisure time.
That said, I'd rather try to reestablish some semblance of pre-apocalypse life.
hunter-gatherers didn't have to actively avoid their own populace turning into disease-ridden cannibalistic hordes.
I see your point, here.
I still like the prison idea, though. I'm sure that they could be modified to be self-sufficient, with enough room for both crops and livestock for a small community inside. And they are designed to be secure in precisely the way we'd want.
I'd prefer a military base to a prison, really.
Ultimately, prisons are designed to keep people in
Military bases are designed to keep people out.
A prison's not hard to take and hold and control and isolate, but a military base in a rural area is superior for this same purpose.
Prisons are clearly designed to be secure, regardless of direction of travel. It's not like you can get in easier than you can get out.
And I'm not sure I'm with you on the military base thing. Could you maybe give me an example of a specific base that fits your needs?
Man if a zombie outbreak happens I am going to find me a nice castle to stay in.
One with lots of escape tunnels and secret passages that even if you manage to somehow find them all you'll be unable to properly barricade?
Nah. There is one nearby that you can only reach by a bridge. There is also a nice little moat around it and well I am pretty sure there are no secret passages that are unknown in that place. There is also a little restaurant in the castle and a wine cellar. And it is in a relatively quiet area so should be a pretty good bet.
until everybody else heads there thinking the same thing
That would happen with any place that people think is relatively safe in a zombie outbreak. (military bases/walmarts etc.)
But yeah I might as well not go anywhere since this house is build like a fort and we have enough food for a very long time.
It was said earlier jokingly (or maybe not) about Uriel, but has the need for escape bait been looked at? The zombies will go after the easy meat giving you a higher chance of escape. Having a few unskilled, worthless people bound, gagged, and at the ready might be give you the extra time you need.
It was said earlier jokingly (or maybe not) about Uriel, but has the need for escape bait been looked at? The zombies will go after the easy meat giving you a higher chance of escape. Having a few unskilled, worthless people bound, gagged, and at the ready might be give you the extra time you need.
I'm just saying. It's all about survival, right?
1) you have to feed and keep these people alive
2) it's not about time, it's about avoiding getting surrounded, and bait won't help with that.
It was said earlier jokingly (or maybe not) about Uriel, but has the need for escape bait been looked at? The zombies will go after the easy meat giving you a higher chance of escape. Having a few unskilled, worthless people bound, gagged, and at the ready might be give you the extra time you need.
I'm just saying. It's all about survival, right?
i'd save certain people just for this purpose
i don't think i'd have much problem with follow through if i somehow became de facto leader making tough decisions like "well if instead of saving that idiot we bail we will save a lot more lives"
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
It's a better plan than going to a prison, I would think.
To be honest, ideal situation isn't even a military base, but rather, areas that are more remote and rural, even more northern than that.
a military base close by is nice and there are several ideal points that fulfill this criteria, Petawawa being an immediate one that springs to mind.
but really, cottage country is your best bet.
your biggest enemy in such a circumstance is urban population density
get far enough away from that, and it's not so bad.
offshore oil rig.
If we can manage to get a fishing boat out there we've got our food, and something like that must have a water purification system on board, so we've got our water.
We can get to the east coast by way of Canada and the maritime provinces, no shortage of fishing boats there, and low population density.
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
this is an excellent point.
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
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It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
this is an excellent point.
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
My response: "LOL cute." *BLAM* "Alright guys, we're heading to the next place, roll out!"
I'm telling you, the safest place is a cold place during a zombie apocalypse.
Find one of those remote research villages in the snowy mountains, up in the arctic cold, dispatch of any possible resistance, and then live your life in peace.
Zombies are too slow and vulnerable to wander the frozen plains of the arctic. They will freeze and destroy themselves before they can come anywhere near you.
Although you would have to watch out for the zombie polar bears though
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
this is an excellent point.
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
My response: "LOL cute." *BLAM* "Alright guys, we're heading to the next place! SE++, transform and roll out!"
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
this is an excellent point.
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
My response: "LOL cute." *BLAM* "Alright guys, we're heading to the next place! SE++, transfore and roll out!"
That would have been better if you hadn't failed at typing Transform.
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
this is an excellent point.
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
My response: "LOL cute." *BLAM* "Alright guys, we're heading to the next place! SE++, transfore and roll out!"
That would have been better if you hadn't failed at typing Transform.
At least you guys caught my hidden message.
Now most important: What color do we paint our vehicles?
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
this is an excellent point.
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
My response: "LOL cute." *BLAM* "Alright guys, we're heading to the next place! SE++, transfore and roll out!"
That would have been better if you hadn't failed at typing Transform.
At least you guys caught my hidden message.
Now most important: What color do we paint our vehicles?
It is also somewhat ridiculous to assume that we will be able to stroll on in to a military base
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
It's a better plan than going to a prison, I would think.
To be honest, ideal situation isn't even a military base, but rather, areas that are more remote and rural, even more northern than that.
a military base close by is nice and there are several ideal points that fulfill this criteria, Petawawa being an immediate one that springs to mind.
but really, cottage country is your best bet.
your biggest enemy in such a circumstance is urban population density
get far enough away from that, and it's not so bad.
offshore oil rig.
If we can manage to get a fishing boat out there we've got our food, and something like that must have a water purification system on board, so we've got our water.
We can get to the east coast by way of Canada and the maritime provinces, no shortage of fishing boats there, and low population density.
Yeah but the sea corrodes the shit out of everything
We've gotta find a way to keep everything in tip-top shape
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CFB Petawawa.
That would happen with any place that people think is relatively safe in a zombie outbreak. (military bases/walmarts etc.)
But yeah I might as well not go anywhere since this house is build like a fort and we have enough food for a very long time.
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Perhaps it would be best if we found a way to make an underground biodome.
You're locked out.
t Pony - I have a very good buddy stationed at Petawawa.
And even so there is nothing at all potentially wrong with that.
Look at this guy's avatar, he's a ghoul-sympathizer!
*point and scream*
I'm just saying. It's all about survival, right?
Man, if you wanna fight zombies with gingivitis that's your deal
1) you have to feed and keep these people alive
2) it's not about time, it's about avoiding getting surrounded, and bait won't help with that.
3) generally bad for moral.
I mean, if it's so good at keeping people out, how did all the people inside go and die
i'd save certain people just for this purpose
i don't think i'd have much problem with follow through if i somehow became de facto leader making tough decisions like "well if instead of saving that idiot we bail we will save a lot more lives"
of course the military bases would likely be accepting refugees.
It's a better plan than going to a prison, I would think.
To be honest, ideal situation isn't even a military base, but rather, areas that are more remote and rural, even more northern than that.
a military base close by is nice and there are several ideal points that fulfill this criteria, Petawawa being an immediate one that springs to mind.
but really, cottage country is your best bet.
your biggest enemy in such a circumstance is urban population density
get far enough away from that, and it's not so bad.
Now there's a place I never thought I'd flee to
If we can manage to get a fishing boat out there we've got our food, and something like that must have a water purification system on board, so we've got our water.
We can get to the east coast by way of Canada and the maritime provinces, no shortage of fishing boats there, and low population density.
I just imagine a military base with all the dudes already turned to zombies, and then you pull up and there's a guy in uniform trying really hard to pretend he's not a zombie, being all "come on in, please."
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Jokes on them, our wombs are dry and infertile
bullshit
I actually am one of those strapping men, so make of that what you will.
Find one of those remote research villages in the snowy mountains, up in the arctic cold, dispatch of any possible resistance, and then live your life in peace.
Zombies are too slow and vulnerable to wander the frozen plains of the arctic. They will freeze and destroy themselves before they can come anywhere near you.
Although you would have to watch out for the zombie polar bears though
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That would have been better if you hadn't failed at typing Transform.
That is horse shit by the way, enough zombies will just pile up and make an undead ramp for the rest of the zombies.
Now most important: What color do we paint our vehicles?
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Blue, gray and a dash of orange. Of course.
I hope you sprain or break your ankle from the fall.
I can outrun someone with an injury.
Yeah but the sea corrodes the shit out of everything
We've gotta find a way to keep everything in tip-top shape
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