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Conan to be on TBS: Very Funny?
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And the winner of the Conan O'Brien sweepstakes is ... TBS.
According to a press release sent out by the cable network (which, like CNN, is a unit of Time Warner), the comedian is joining TBS to host a late-night show that is expected to debut in November. O'Brien's show will be followed on TBS' schedule by George Lopez's "Lopez Tonight," which will move to midnight.
"In three months I've gone from network television to Twitter to performing live in theater, and now I'm headed to basic cable," O'Brien said in the statement. "My plan is working perfectly."
He also Tweeted Monday: "The good news: I will be doing a show on TBS starting in November! The bad news: I'll be playing Rudy on the all new Cosby Show."
O'Brien is currently embarking on a nationwide comedy tour, but he made bigger headlines earlier this year when NBC decided to move Jay Leno back to "The Tonight Show's" late-night slot. O'Brien, who had been hosting "Tonight," left the network.
Since his departure at the end of February, O'Brien has joined Twitter and decided to follow someone at random; launched a 32-city comedy tour (which will include much of his "Tonight Show" crew); and been the subject of countless rumors as to where he will land when a non-compete clause with NBC is over.
Am I excited? Not really. I don't think this winds up ans anything but a foot note.
Do I agree with the poster like three comments down on CNN that it's funny he's pushing George Lopez to midnight? Yes.
I always forget I have TBS on my channel line up. I've never really caught the George Lopez show either, but that might be because I lost interest in his comedy.
I would like to think this will get me to watch TBS as opposed to just feeling bad for Conan.
If basic cable was in play, why not just go to Comedy Central and do a Monday-Thursday show after The Daily Show and Colbert?
Conan on TBS seems like the worst-case scenario.
11 vs 12.
Strong points from Conan's perspective:
1) Cable lets him be himself
2) He gets to own the show
3) He doesn't have to deal with the kind of affiliate politics that just screwed him
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I think this is a terrible idea for him. Aside from the LOLopez thing of taking George's slot, it's just a huge downgrade from where he was. Matt already expressed one of the big concerns, cable/satellite isn't something everyone has still. Being on one of the 4 major networks would have been his best chance. If the issue with FOX was their affiliates, then they can work for the next 6-7 months to straighten that shit out. Going to TBS is silly, at best.
Leno's actually been beating Letterman in the ratings since he came back.
As far as the Fox issue goes, the problem is that many of the affiliates already sold their 11 p.m. space for syndication for the next season. So they could either drop the syndicated programs and lose a lot of money in the process, or Conan could wait until September 2011.
If basic cable was in play, why not just go to Comedy Central and do a Monday-Thursday show after The Daily Show and Colbert?
Conan on TBS seems like the worst-case scenario.
11 vs 12.
Strong points from Conan's perspective:
1) Cable lets him be himself
2) He gets to own the show
3) He doesn't have to deal with the kind of affiliate politics that just screwed him
I don't have an issue with him going to cable. I just have an issue with him going to cable, and choosing TBS.
The only thing that makes sense why he'd choose TBS over Comedy Central is the time slot. But is that time slot worth going to a less prestigious network that doesn't match his humor as well and has a worse lead-in than what he could have had at Comedy Central? I just don't think being up an extra hour is worth that much, especially considering he's going to continue to splinter his own audience by going head-to-head with both TDS and Colbert now.
Of course, it's certainly possible TBS was just looking to make a splash and offered Conan a whole lot more money than Comedy Central was willing to pay.
Yea, frankly I don't understand all the TBS hate. I mean, it's not like I love their other programming, but I don't have to watch their other shows either.
Choosing TBS as a cable channel makes sense, since it's included in just about every base cable/satellite package. Things like Comedy Central and FX usually aren't included in the base package. So it gets him maximum possible viewers to go to TBS.
Minus those of us without cable or satellite grumble grumble.
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April 11, 2010
Conan-Fox deal update: Progress threatened by affiliate gripes
Conan pic By James Hibberd and Matthew Belloni
Exclu: When Conan O’Brien takes the stage Monday to kick off his U.S. comedy tour, the most important critics to impress will be the owners of Fox stations.
Talks between Fox and O’Brien’s reps have made significant progress in recent days toward a deal that would bring the late-night host back to broadcast TV. But affiliate concerns about airing the new venture threaten to derail any agreement.
Fox entertainment chairman Peter Rice and entertainment president Kevin Reilly have been in regular discussions with O’Brien’s camp, led by agent Rick Rosen, manager Gavin Polone and lawyer Leigh Brecheen, including at least one face-to-face meeting on the Fox lot over the past two weeks.
While such issues as O’Brien’s specific compensation and ownership of a new show are still being discussed, the host has agreed to key concessions, including lowering his salary and slashing production costs.
“It will be leaner and meaner,” a source close to the negotiation said.
But the host won’t commit to Fox unless the network can guarantee that stations will air his show in all or nearly all of the country.
And as of now, that’s far from a done deal. Some Fox affiliates are less enthusiastic about taking on O’Brien's show. Airing O'Brien's show means affiliates have to eat the cost of any sitcoms or other syndicated programs already booked for the late-night slot while already kicking up a retransmission fee to carry the network.
“The question is how much can one network ask of its affiliates?” an insider said.
Dissension on the Fox side is worrying negotiators that a deal might not be complete in time for the network’s upfront presentation to advertisers on May 17, if it happens at all. Without clearing the show nationwide, O’Brien and Fox would risk an uphill battle on several fronts. The show would generate lower national ratings and might fight the perception of having distribution issues, which would increase the risk of stations abandoning the format. Affiliate threats to stop airing NBC’s “The Jay Leno Show” was a key factor in the network’s decision to kill the show and return Leno to late-night.
For this reason, O’Brien’s team is still looking at alternative options, declining to enter exclusive negotiations with Fox. That said, Fox and O’Brien have cleared several points of agreement.
Fox and O’Brien want the show to air on Fox stations from 11 p.m.-midnight, which would give it a 35-minute jump on NBC’s “Tonight Show With Jay Leno” and CBS’ “Late Show With David Letterman.”
The budget for the new show would be considerably less than O’Brien’s most recent stint on NBC, getting the host back to his scrappy roots after trying to fit the more bloated “Tonight Show.” O’Brien’s “Tonight” cost about $90 million a year -- including O'Brien's $12 million salary -- but Fox is aiming to pay less than $60 million for the new show.
O’Brien’s show would likely be based in Los Angeles. Though some critics felt NBC mistakenly moved O’Brien from New York to L.A. when he took over “Tonight,” the host has not discussed with Fox the possibility of moving back. Keeping the show in L.A. would make it easier to book Hollywood talent.
There are, however, still several open issues. O’Brien wants ownership of his new program, like David Letterman, whose Worldwide Pants owns “Late Show.” But Fox would prefer to keep O’Brien as a highly paid employee, similar to NBC’s relationship with Leno on “Tonight.”
Both sides remain hopeful that a deal will be struck, but the sense is that the affiliates now hold the keys to making that happen.
The comedy tour, which launches Monday night in Eugene, Ore., might help matters. O’Brien will generate plenty of headlines in the coming weeks, which should help keep his profile strong as his team tries to lock down a deal. Plus, starting Monday night, local station owners get a chance to sample O’Brien’s act live in person.
April 12, 2010
Shock: Conan's show will air on TBS
Conan O'Brien is returning to late-night -- on TBS.
In a surprise announcement, the cable net said Monday it has signed O'Brien for an hourlong show to air at 11 p.m. beginning in November.
Until as recently as last week, O'Brien had been in nonexclusive negotiations with Fox. But as THR reported this weekend, Fox's inability to clear an 11 p.m. O'Brien show on its affiliates threatened to derail the deal.
Sources say the basic cable outlet made O'Brien a better financial offer than Fox. He will own his new Los Angeles-based show -- a key request during his negotiations with the broadcaster. His salary will be comparable to what he was making on "Tonight Show," though with the possibility of making more due to his ownership of the as-yet-untitled series. But the key issue was that Fox couldn't get enough affiliates on board with O'Brien.
"There were very positive talks with Fox but there are commitments at the stations for the next two years that made it very difficult to put the show [in enough markets] to make it competitive," one insider said.
That a deal wasn't going to happen was clear to both sides last week, though Fox agreed to keep the matter quiet until O'Brien could make an announcement.
"In three months I've gone from network television to Twitter to performing live in theaters, and now I'm headed to basic cable," O'Brien said in a statement. "My plan is working perfectly."
O'Brien's show will serve as a lead-in for George Lopez's late-night show "Lopez Tonight," which will move to midnight.
The TBS courtship began only about 10 days ago when the network offered O'Brien the 11 p.m. slot. O'Brien was initially disinterested at the prospect of bumping Lopez's talk show -- too reflective of the drama at NBC between himself and Jay Leno. But O'Brien's feeling shifted after Lopez called O'Brien last week to personally ask him to join the network.
“I can’t think of anything better than doing my show with Conan as my lead-in,” Lopez said. “It’s the beginning of a new era in late-night comedy.”
TBS has long been best known for airing repeats of broadcast comedies such as "The Office" and "Family Guy," which will serve as O'Brien's lead-in. Having O'Brien will help shift the perception of the network as a destination for original programming. Paired with "Lopez Tonight," TBS will have two young-skewing late-night shows.
The move means O'Brien won't face ratings comparisons to Jay Leno and David Letterman, though it does put O'Brien up against the similar sensibilities of Comedy Central's "Daily Show with Jon Stewart" and "The Colbert Report."
Tweeted O'Brien: "The good news: I will be doing a show on TBS starting in November! The bad news: I'll be playing Rudy on the all new 'Cosby Show.'"
Though O'Brien's statement joked that moving to basic cable was a step down from broadcast, TBS president Steve Koonin cited the O'Brien deal as proof of cable's rising importance.
“For decades, late-night TV has been dominated by broadcast television,” Koonin said. “Now, with a young audience and a growing late-night lineup, TBS is set to be the choice of comedy fans for years to come.”
The announcement comes the same day as O'Brien starts a two-month comedy tour in Eugene, Ore. O'Brien's longtime executive producer Jeff Ross is also on board.
"Conan is a great talent and we wish him every success," said a Fox representative.
-- Matthew Belloni contributed to this report
Emphasis Mine.
Also?
Be aware of the date; it's a bit old, but hey.
March 18, 2010
Leno winning, losing late-night
Jay leno UPDATED: Can Jay Leno win and lose at the same time?
The latest ratings have the “Tonight Show” host winning the late-night battle, but struggling to conquer the long-term war.
"Tonight Show" (4.4 million viewers, 1.2 adults 18-49 rating) led the late-night crop last week among total viewers and the adult demo, beating CBS' "Late Show With David Letterman" (3.8 million, 1.0).
Then there's the nagging comparisons with Conan O’Brien and Leno’s own performance from last year.
For the second and third weeks since his return to late-night, Leno is down from comparable dates in 2009, slipping 13% in the demo and 3% in viewers. The concern here is that not all of Leno's audience has returned to the show. Also, this week Leno's median age is 56 years old (Letterman's is 54; Conan O'Brien averaged 46).
Another key for the industry to perceive that NBC made the correct choice by keeping Leno is for the “Tonight” host to stay above O’Brien’s ratings during his tenure as "Tonight" host.
Yet for the past couple weeks, Leno has barely topped O'Brien's average -- 1.2 to O’Brien’s 1.1 -- despite O'Brien having endured an inferior lead-in during the 10 p.m. hour (Jay Leno himself, with his short-lived primetime effort). This gap between hosts is a bit bigger, however, if one uses O'Brien's fourth-quarter rating of 1.0, before his impending exit caused his numbers to climb.
NBC wants to avoid ending up with a "Tonight Show" that has about the same rating as O'Brien despite a better lead-in -- and with a decade-older audience.
Meanwhile, at 12:35, the race is much tighter than the earlier hour -- NBC’s “Late Night With Jimmy Fallon” (1.7 million, 0.6) tied the demo with CBS’ “The Late Late Show With Craig Ferguson” (1.8 million, 0.6).
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Ah, good. I've been waiting for something new to show up in between showings of The Beastmaster. Will they be showing the one with Grace Jones or will they strictly stay with the Fat Vader Snake edition?
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Mad Men, The Daily Show / colbert report, BSG and now Caprica... Conan getting some basic cable on...
I can't wait for the day where major networks are competing for the same rating slice as the rest of the networks.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
but they're listening to every word I say
I mean...TBS? Seriously?
I love Conan to death, but this doesn't look very good.
It means I might catch the end or beginning of one of TBS's pieces of "Quality Programing"
but they're listening to every word I say
I think TBS will work out fine.
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Conan on TBS seems like the worst-case scenario.
Dude. Law and Order any day.
but they're listening to every word I say
Conan will be fine, and he'll be able to do more or less anything he wants.
Is any one else seeing him on his tour? Starts tomorrow in Eugene, Oregon.
I would like to think this will get me to watch TBS as opposed to just feeling bad for Conan.
I don't think folks are going to join that even as a joke.
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Should be able to find it on TBS.com or Hulu.
11 vs 12.
Strong points from Conan's perspective:
1) Cable lets him be himself
2) He gets to own the show
3) He doesn't have to deal with the kind of affiliate politics that just screwed him
Also much less likely to be suffocated in the crib by an executive due to getting anything but best in slot ratings his first week.
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Do you know what Leno's ratings are looking like a month into his return? Because if they're anything higher than a 3.5, then Conan has no chance.
FX.
Conan on FX would be great. They are all sorts of liberal with standards & practices over there.
Apparently he's not doing terribly.
As far as the Fox issue goes, the problem is that many of the affiliates already sold their 11 p.m. space for syndication for the next season. So they could either drop the syndicated programs and lose a lot of money in the process, or Conan could wait until September 2011.
4.4 million viewers in Nielsen ratings is about...a 4.9, I think. If it's still 900k viewers per full point.
If Leno's pulling in the high 4s and low 5s, then Conan doesn't have a chance in the world to beat him on cable.
I don't have an issue with him going to cable. I just have an issue with him going to cable, and choosing TBS.
The only thing that makes sense why he'd choose TBS over Comedy Central is the time slot. But is that time slot worth going to a less prestigious network that doesn't match his humor as well and has a worse lead-in than what he could have had at Comedy Central? I just don't think being up an extra hour is worth that much, especially considering he's going to continue to splinter his own audience by going head-to-head with both TDS and Colbert now.
Of course, it's certainly possible TBS was just looking to make a splash and offered Conan a whole lot more money than Comedy Central was willing to pay.
That's it, i'm changing my avatar...
Yea, frankly I don't understand all the TBS hate. I mean, it's not like I love their other programming, but I don't have to watch their other shows either.
Assuming FOX is off the table this is an excellent idea, to the point where it probably never had a chance.
Minus those of us without cable or satellite grumble grumble.
Emphasis Mine.
Also?
Be aware of the date; it's a bit old, but hey.
I'd hope ALL talk show hosts would learn by now on this point.
:P
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