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[Star Wars] Official Jar Jar Fanclub
Robman
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So you may have heard of this thing in passing once or twice. It's kind of a big deal to nerds.
The Trilogies
There were two trilogies, the Original Trilogy, which many nerds consider to be a collection of some of the finest sci-fi/fantasy movies ever made. They also revolutionized what people could expect from movies - using computer-controlled cameras, Lucas and his team made special effects like nothing that had ever been seen before. These effects are so good that they hold up reasonably well to this day, something quite incredible to say given that it's been 30 years since the first one came out.
Then, the Prequel Trilogy came out. It was pretty bad. Lucas abandoned his extensive set-building and frankly brilliant design techniques to green screen the entire movie. Lucas, being a *bit* of a control freak, saw this as the way to implement his true vision of Star Wars. There was also the matter that the man was worth more then many countries in the world, which tends to intimidate people from criticizing bad ideas. This created the perfect storm to demonstrate how bad Lucas is unchecked. Even Saint Lucas realized he'd fucked up after Episode 1: in the excellent Red Letter Media review of The Phantom Menace, the senior staff of Lucasfilm watch a screening of the completed film, and there's a moment of oh shit. But then Episode II came out, so clearly they didn't learn anything.
Oh there were also some books and TV shows, and a few video games that came out. You might have heard of dark forces and the clone wars. Maybe. The books were kind of a big deal, they might have sold a couple of hundred million units all said and done at this point.
What a big deal might look like.
So in this thread we rage over minute details about our furry monkey men and space wizards.
IN JAR JAR WE TRUST
DON'T BE A FUCKING NECKBEARD OR THE THREAD WILL GET LOCKED The Red Letter Media Reviews - watch a crazy motherfucker rip apart your childhood memories.
The Phantom Menace (70 minutes total)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
The Attack of the Clones (90 minutes total)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI
The Attack of the Clones (90 minutes total)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA
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Heh, I like that.
Mesa bringa yousa to da bombad bongo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI&feature=player_embedded
AotC review (part 1 of 9)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA&feature=player_embedded
Yes, these reviews are nearly as long as the movies they are ripping apart.
They are also more entertaining then those movies.
Who drew/painted it?
Would it have been better or worse if Leia had not been Luke's sister as originally planned.
The original plan was that Luke's sister would still be out there and trained as a Jedi and show up in the movies following the original trilogy.
Eh, I never had a problem with it. Sure, it really kicked off the trend of Lucas making the universe incredibly tiny, but at least it gave some emotional heft to ROTJ that would have really been lacking without it.
Follow up question for the peanut gallery:
Would it have been better if Leia wasn't goddamn 18 years old (I think that's how old she was) when she'd already been appointed to the Senate enough to be recognizable? Or would it have been worse?
Seriously, do we have to have 17 year old senators? In the middle of a civil war? Couldn't she have been in her twenties? Or have been a Senatorial page or something if she still needs to be, plot-wise, jailbait?
His voice is perfect.
Also I imagine luke feels sort of shafted by the whole thing; his sister gets to go off and be a princess, and he gets marooned on tatooine?
But I don't really think it would've been any better if she'd been introduced as some kind of secret jedi later in the movie.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
My memory is failing me a bit, but it may have been Ralph McQuarrie (who also did a ton of pre-viz/design for the OT). The later posters up to and including the PT were Drew Struzan - who is a fantastic artist in his own right, but hasn't always been paired with projects where his style really shines.
I used to be a HUGE SW nerd. Much less so nowadays, though. The rate at which the EU was expanding became a little ridiculous for me to devote time/energy to keep up. I still love the property in general, though.
Edit - I stand corrected. Original poster art was Tom Chantrell.
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The intellectual capacity for enjoying these films increases tremendously with the smaller amounts of EU data one is exposed to and takes as canon.
I always imagine Leia and Luke to be in their early-to-mid twenties. Still young for a senator, but she is royalty, so maybe that counts for something.
Perfect for what I imagine Harry Knowles sounds like.
I like to imagine that the various planetary/regional governments look at the Senate as a boring administrative body that's pretty irrelevant to their lives, so for a lot of worlds their republic senator is a patronage post; something to get a person some seasoning, or get someone they don't like as far away as possible.
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkxQ6HYDwIA
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I didn't like it at first either, but honestly the guy is so funny the voice doesn't even matter to me anymore.
After she was done talking I raised my hand and corrected her, saying that despite kissing during one scene, Luke and Leia were brother and sister, and it was actually Han Solo that got the girl.
I did feel like a nerd, but the look on her face and the entire class was worth it.
I hope you and your roommate soon after scheduled a movie night to pull the poor boy from the Dark Side?
I hope that child is now working in a gem mine in Brazil.
How can anyone not know the basic premise for those characters?
I just... love it.
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The new MMO is one of three games I'm waiting for anxiously (the other two being, of course, Valkyria Chronicles 2 and Super Mario Galaxy 2).
You'd be surprised. Back when I was in college, my roommate had never seen Star Wars and assumed it was just one film.
If the US had an ambassador to the UN that was the minimum age requirement I wouldn't particularly mind. Because for really important stuff the President goes to the UN, not the ambassador. So for really important stuff Jimmy Smits would fly out to Coruscant. For the mundane "SB 1138: Resolution to authorize a study on the economic impact of legalizing video sabacc in the Sluis Van system" crap that probably makes up 98% of Senate business, I'm sure a 17 year old Leia can handle it.
The Imperial Senator we see:
The ones we don't:
Plus if you're going to stick a spy in the Imperial Senate, a 17 year old girl might make for a less likely suspect.
Here's a vid of one person who tries to describe what Star Wars is including the characters, it's a funny vid.
I only saw Star Wars a few years before I came to the United States--and primarily at the suggestion of American friends, and the fact that there were lots of thick Star Wars hardbacks available at the library (it was the early 1990s).
Even today, I know one guy who's only seen the prequel films. He's never seen the original three films.
*shrugs* What can you do?
Also, I have to admit, BubbaT's Jimmy Smit's explanation is very good (especially because I saw that film for the first time just a few weeks ago). Imagining that, say, junior senators were actually fairly unimportant and powerless (especially compared to senior citizens) explains why Leia would be appointed by her planet's government (namely, nepotism). Add to the fact that the Senate was increasingly weakening anyway....
Though if it were full of 17 to 18 year old prima donnas, I'd probably disband the Senate as well. And presumably, by the time ANH begins and Palpatine is well in charge for +2 decades, that whole nasty habit of Senators being poisoned/killed in starship explosions/etc. has declined significantly. Seriously, the Senate of the prequel films is goddamn dangerous.
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Well he was right, but unfortunately he had the right answer with the wrong method. It really is a shame the first movie didn't explain why Dooku and Palpaltine wanted to overthrow the Jedi and the Republic.
To be fair, the OT never explains much either.
The thing is, the OT does this competently by using big obvious archetypes. The Empire is obviously evil and must be destroyed. How it works, how it came to be, etc is all largely irrelevant. The Empire is obviously evil, so the Rebels must be good guys.
The PT tries to get more complicated, but doesn't actually explain it any better so then the parts that don't make sense become WAY more obvious.
IT IS!
Only if the *AA and the like lose the ability to purchase legislation both in the USA and abroad.
Also, how could this thread not mention the awesomeness that is Adywan's Star Wars revisited, or his upcoming ESB revisited? The guy's actually got enough funds to make his own props, models, and creature suits and is filming new sequences, alongside his usual array of digital special effects. I anxiously await its release.
I thught the Emperor wanted to bring order to the universe through force? Or is that an EU thing?
Or a non-existant thing?