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[Roguelikes] Stone Soup, Spelunky, etc. Better than 'Gnome Castle' something.

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So, its guaranteed that grey is unenchanted and blue is SOME kind of enchantment?

    With curses showing up wherever they damned well please, I suppose.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I believe that's correct. Blues will have some magical property even if it's just +0, +1 or whatnot.

    What are some good summoning spells? I have butterflies for spamming a bunch of weak creatures at once, so I dropped mammals and scorpions. Which would be better, summon ugly thing or summon demon?

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  • rattletraprattletrap Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'm pretty sure grey can have some +/- on them as well. However they will never have a brand.

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  • JauntyJaunty Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Alright, I just wanted to share one of my favorite ways to play Crawl with you guys.

    Basically, you just pick a random celebrity name and give it a race/class combo that suits that particular celebrity. For example, Hugh Hefner would be a Mummy Summoner, or maybe something else! I dunno.

    Andy Dick would be a spriggan venom mage, Chuck Norris would be a dwarf fighter of some kind etc. etc.

    It's fun little meta-game that lets you try out combinations that you wouldn't normally try. Plus it has the added bonus of adding celebrity names to your potential ghost list, which is hilarious.

    "oh fuck I just got killed by Chuck Berry's ghost!"

    I have enough famous names in my graveyard to cast an entire movie, plus extras, and I love it. Except for when Elijah Wood shows up.
    seriously fuck Elijah Wood.

    You know what you have to do? You have to share your bones files with us. Do it.

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  • hatedinamericahatedinamerica Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Jaunty wrote: »
    Alright, I just wanted to share one of my favorite ways to play Crawl with you guys.

    Basically, you just pick a random celebrity name and give it a race/class combo that suits that particular celebrity. For example, Hugh Hefner would be a Mummy Summoner, or maybe something else! I dunno.

    Andy Dick would be a spriggan venom mage, Chuck Norris would be a dwarf fighter of some kind etc. etc.

    It's fun little meta-game that lets you try out combinations that you wouldn't normally try. Plus it has the added bonus of adding celebrity names to your potential ghost list, which is hilarious.

    "oh fuck I just got killed by Chuck Berry's ghost!"

    I have enough famous names in my graveyard to cast an entire movie, plus extras, and I love it. Except for when Elijah Wood shows up.
    seriously fuck Elijah Wood.

    You know what you have to do? You have to share your bones files with us. Do it.

    Forgot to back up files when I updated to new version. OOPS!

    I'll post it once I get it back up to snuff though; which shouldn't take long since this is my go-to game to play for a couple minutes whenever my router craps out and needs to be reset (which is all the fucking time)

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Butterflies are for distraction purposes. You flood a hallway and run the other way while that ogre takes a minute to plow through them. Mammals gets outpowered pretty quick, if you're almost mastered for Scorpions, because they have an alarmingly high difficulty curve to get skilled in. I like Canine Familiar, if you can get it, you go to War Dogs pretty quickly on it.

    Now, are we talking Call Imp, Demonic Horde, Summon Demon, or Summon Greater Demon? I personally havent fiddled with any of them outside of Call Imps, which pulls up fairly decent imps, of all colours. The black ones make Zombies which stay with you, too, its worth noting.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Right now I'm deciding between level 5 summons, so Summon Ugly Thing and Summon Demon. Hadn't even considered dogs, how do those compare? I can cast all of these at excellent with no food cost.

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  • Lord Of The PantsLord Of The Pants Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think that's two consecutive games that Sigmund has gone invisible and killed me.

    Bastard.

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  • ArthArth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Alright, I just wanted to share one of my favorite ways to play Crawl with you guys.

    Basically, you just pick a random celebrity name and give it a race/class combo that suits that particular celebrity. For example, Hugh Hefner would be a Mummy Summoner, or maybe something else! I dunno.

    Andy Dick would be a spriggan venom mage, Chuck Norris would be a dwarf fighter of some kind etc. etc.

    It's fun little meta-game that lets you try out combinations that you wouldn't normally try. Plus it has the added bonus of adding celebrity names to your potential ghost list, which is hilarious.

    "oh fuck I just got killed by Chuck Berry's ghost!"

    I have enough famous names in my graveyard to cast an entire movie, plus extras, and I love it. Except for when Elijah Wood shows up.
    seriously fuck Elijah Wood.

    I am doing this because I HOPE I get killed by the ghost of Mike Tyson, Ogre Monk.

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  • quaigyquaigy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Maybe you guys can help me. I'm trying to levitate over a pool of water to reach some goodies. I have a ring of levitation (equipped), i'm not overburdened or anything, and yet i just can't use it.

    What am i doing wrong ?

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  • GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    quaigy wrote: »
    Maybe you guys can help me. I'm trying to levitate over a pool of water to reach some goodies. I have a ring of levitation (equipped), i'm not overburdened or anything, and yet i just can't use it.

    What am i doing wrong ?

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  • harvestharvest By birthright, a stupendous badass.Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I had a great deep dwarf necromancer going on but thing started getting really hard all of a sudden. Since DD sucks at spellcasting I was always hungry and eating the corpses I could have been using to make abominations. I really have no idea how to win at this game. And that flowchart is out of date so don't repost :)

    I wish I could depend on a melee class to win, or even get a single rune, without need any tricky spells.

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  • quaigyquaigy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Garthor wrote: »
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    I feel very, very stupid right now. Thanks ! :)

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  • RaslinRaslin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    HEWz.

    Mephitic cloud + throw fire

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You're doing Sif Muna, right? Just give the dogs a try, if you dont like em, blow a little peity on forgetting. You'll probably want a good basic "low level" for whatever region you're doing newaz, so just drop Mammals and stuff.

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  • kedinikkedinik Captain of Industry Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Stone Soup has definitely upped my threshold for permadeath pain.

    Torchlight only holds my interest on Hardcore + Very Hard, and with a melee-centric alchemist.

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  • MolotovCockatooMolotovCockatoo Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is there any reason a vampire character wouldn't want to basically hover around the very thirsty/near bloodless state? The only negative is potion use is halved, it seems to me.

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    Killjoy wrote: »
    No jeez Orik why do you assume the worst about people?

    Because he moderates an internet forum

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    If you were a vamp transmuter or you want to regenerate quickly, or you want the benefit of some mutation. Are "alive" vampires still vulnerable to holy?

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sigmund!!!!

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  • SavantSavant Simply Barbaric Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Word to the wise: if you see the named troll "Snorg" in crawl and aren't rather high level, run away and stay the hell away from him.

    I was trying a summoner, and saw him on one of the levels between the temple and lair. I summon a few scorpions to see if poison does much good, he gets poisoned, but tears through them immediately. So I start to run, and then I notice he is two squares away from me and berzerk with most of his health intact. I think to myself "hmmm, this looks sort of bad, how about I read a teleport scroll". The result is that I am instantly dead, from my full 40 health to zero before I even get another turn after reading the scroll.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I need to get past D4

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  • chipmanchipman Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Playing Crawl, met an "Iron Dragon Skeleton" in the Orc mines.

    What.
    The.
    Hell.

    I couldn't SCRATCH it - as in I was attacking, hitting and doing zero damage.

    I ran away (it was really slow) and finished the Lair, came back and nope, still zero damage.

    Then whilst running from it I was killed by a unique character who was previously doing very little damage to me before knocking off half my HP in one hit.

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  • FrosteeyFrosteey Elaise 1521-2945-8940Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Zombies won't ever look injured. You deal damage to their max HP. They'll never regenerate the damage, but they'll always look healthy.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    jothki wrote: »
    Henroid wrote: »
    Roguelikes kick my ass - I have yet to play a roguelike that I am good at. Something about their design evades my grasp.

    Have you tried Spelunky?

    Also, if you want an easy starter roguelike, try Castle of the Winds.

    Ragnarok (AKA Valhalla) was also relatively easy. Though you could still insta-kill yourself by eating the wrong thing, it was more forgiving in most other respects.
    It was my first roguelike. Unless you count Moraff's World. Do we?

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  • TaminTamin Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Frosteey wrote: »
    Zombies won't ever look injured. You deal damage to their max HP. They'll never regenerate the damage, but they'll always look healthy.

    This is amazingly intelligent design.

    not being sarcastic. It's honestly awesome.

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  • ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I can't think of any way to even run CotW.

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  • quaigyquaigy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My character is doing absurdly well in Crawl. Cleared most of the Lair, all of the Orcish Mine, 4 or 5 levels of the Elvish place, and currently cleaning the Hive.

    The ability to travel automatically to random places in the dungeon is awesome.

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    ALRIGHT I JUST CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE.

    I have just completly burnt out on Crawl. What else is good in the type, with hopefully something approaching Stone Soup's great interface?

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  • ImpersonatorImpersonator Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is there something similar to Spelunky? The only requirement is that it must run on Linux. D:

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Teyar wrote: »
    ALRIGHT I JUST CANT TAKE THIS ANYMORE.

    I have just completly burnt out on Crawl. What else is good in the type, with hopefully something approaching Stone Soup's great interface?

    Try Ragnarok/Valhalla if you haven't already. In many ways it's not as in depth as most roguelikes, but it still has a ton to do, and I always felt like you got more of a sense of progression through the world/story because of the way it was laid out.
    The interface is pretty great too.
    The main detail view is only a 7x7 square, but it's large enough for good detail (the game was made purely with actual graphics in mind, no ASCII mode) and the entire top half of the screen is the level map, so what you lose down low, you make up for with map view. Left bottom is your character status, right bottom is a button area with most commands, so you can play by mouse. I never used them much, but they're handy since they also have the keyboard shortcut on them.
    screenie:
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    Only 1 race (that you can start as. You can transform or switch bodies by a variety of means), and 6 classes, which you can change every 10 levels. But there's still lots of fun to be had by figuring out things like what reading different scrolls while drunk does, or eating different corpses, and whatnot.
    Edit: looks like there's a group remaking the game too.

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  • TeyarTeyar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I managed to find a copy of Ragnarok 2.5, whats this about a remake group?

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think I can vaguely remember playing moraff's world. it was a trial version or something and there was some way that made it easy to win.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Teyar wrote: »
    I managed to find a copy of Ragnarok 2.5, whats this about a remake group?

    Some Swedish group or something is working on it. It's called Norseworld: Ragnarok.
    Though it seems half abandoned. Last source update at sourceforge was over a year ago.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Jars wrote: »
    I think I can vaguely remember playing moraff's world. it was a trial version or something and there was some way that made it easy to win.

    If you were lucky you could sometimes rush the stairs or dig down all 16 levels or whatever without running into something that would kill you.

    I spent so much time playing that shareware version. It kind of sucked though that you could go out on the world map and find other towns, but none had dungeons as big as the first one.

    You could even get a boat and explore (read: get utterly lost and quit) the ocean.
    I wonder if the expanded version made that better.

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  • juice for jesusjuice for jesus Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just had a fun experience in my first run through a ziggurat.

    On my way in I had to kill two hostile angels, which gave me penance with TSO (in retrospect I should have just run past them). However, fighting through 9 levels of mostly demons and undead got me back on TSO's good side. Then I come to an all angel level. Easy loot right?

    Except only about 2/3 of the angels were friendly, which started a heavenly civil war. They started beating the tar out of each other, and I couldn't attack because that would cause me to go into penance again! So I had to stand there and hope my buddies won before I got smoten to death. And they did, so woo.

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  • VicVic Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I am slowly being driven insane by Dungeon Crawl. I cheat like hell (keeping multiple folders so I can revert to an earlier save in case I die) and I still have a really hard time getting anywhere. Currently playing as a Minotaur fighter, my most successful character yet even though he has probably died about 50 times so far against everything from perma-invisible confusion casting mages to hordes of swamp dragons and hydras.

    Okawaru has been hilariously dumb with his gifts so far, almost every time he gives me a gift I either start cursing or burst out laughing. His first gift (which I admittedly still use) was a wizard hat -2 of accuracy. After that he gave me two more wizard hats, each giving +1 intelligence. After that he gave me a flail of crushing (the best item yet, and I still use it), then he gave me a plain +0 cap, and then a mediocre ring mail of poison resistance which would have been really useful had I not just died about twenty times getting a swamp dragon armor in Swamp 5.

    Currently trying to take on Snake pit 5 (I know I can handle it if I'm just a bit lucky with the teleportations), after which I will try to find the elven halls.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    ew
    ewwwww
    why are you using an anything of -accuracy

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  • MonkeyDLuffyMonkeyDLuffy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    It's not a wizard hat of -2 accuracy. It's a wizard hat -2 of accuracy. The wizard hat's wizard-hatliness is what's being decreased, not his accuracy.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I would have phrased that more clearly if I had written it.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Question: What's to stop someone from using the tiles version of Crawl as a frontend for the ssh version*? I presume part of it is the SSH one just puts the symbols out there and doesn't tell you what they are until you examine them. That could probably be gotten around by having the client auto examine items and monsters that you're within a certain range of in order to give the correct image.

    *other than the fact that it currently has no network capability of course.

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