Edit: The videos were taken down. Not surprising since they didn't come from Sega or a news site
[strike]Videos showing an example of a branching mission path. The 3 other videos are under the spoiler so it isn't just a huge horizontal scroll of embedded videos.[/strike]
Hey Tertiee, where do you get your news? Nice catch with those videos, I didn't see them anywhere.
And an interesting tidbit from the official forums, if you max out stealth (which is more expensive than other skills) you only have enough points to max out one more skill, and you have to work at it to get that much.
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edited May 2010
This game is looking so awesome. Man, ME2, this, and Fallout: New Vegas(and probably some other games I can't remember at the moment)...this is going to be a good year.
I have no gaming playing PC so I can't really get excited about Witcher 2.
As for DA2, it'll probably be announced this year but not released until the early of next year.
You mean, the February 1st insert in Awakenings? Because I was talking about the Dragon age title in EA's financial report, for Q4.
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DragkoniasThat Guy Who Does StuffYou Know, There. Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
Q4 extends into early of the following year that's why I'm saying it could be this year or the next one. And since we haven't heard much about it I'm guessing next year(that is unless they're saving it for some big E3 thing).
Probably going stealth + unarmed first time through. We'll see.
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I think I like the fact that maxing out stealth is a more expensive route. Stealth as a skill can break games pretty badly sometimes, so making players choose between being really good at stealth and very possibly under-equipped for aggressive fighting seems like a not half-bad idea.
It's also kind of weird that the more I see of the game, the more I think of Splinter Cell with sneaking around. Splinter Cell-Splinter Cell, I mean, not the latest abortion in the series. Which is a shame, really, because a Splinter Cell game using the classic sneaking stuff but with the kind of customization and options of Alpha Protocol could have rocked many worlds.
I'm also not too greatly impressed with the animations and graphics, but oh well, having the different choices available looks way more appealing to me than some fancy shiny graphics. I do find myself wondering about the possibilities of escaping fights altogether, though. Like if you get ambushed, are you stuck fighting your way through the ambush or are there going to be ways to escape and go around the enemy? Sure, killing a bunch of baddies who ambush you means you can shoot people, but being able to just slip past them and get their boss even after they get the jump on you makes you Spy of the Month right there.
Q4 extends into early of the following year that's why I'm saying it could be this year or the next one. And since we haven't heard much about it I'm guessing next year(that is unless they're saving it for some big E3 thing).
Specifically, EA's financial year goes from April to March. So when EA list the untitled Dragon Age game (which is probably another expansion), they're talking about a January-March 2011 release.
Monger: Nope. They were originally going to port Witcher 1 to the PS3/360 but that port fell through when the studio porting it apparently sucked. So far they've only announced Witcher 2's coming to the PC.
Anyway, just under two weeks till Alpha Protocol day. I really should get around to ordering it soon.
I just preordered this. EBGames has it listed for AU$110, I ordered it from www.365games.co.uk for about AU$35 with free shipping. That's about the equivalent of waiting a year or two for the price to drop, and I only have to wait a couple of extra days.
I just preordered this. EBGames has it listed for AU$110, I ordered it from www.365games.co.uk for about AU$35 with free shipping. That's about the equivalent of waiting a year or two for the price to drop, and I only have to wait a couple of extra days.
Thanks for that. I knew not preordering via Steam/something else was a wise idea. :^:
That is some ass backwards system you have if the game costs that much but is being offered at a discount of that much that quickly.
Also, Joystiq seems to reveal that the delays were for no reason other than sales posturing. I guess that's...good, I guess? They didn't go about it very well, though.
Think this will be on Steam or D2D? I shun daylight.
What major PC games don't get released on Steam these days? About the only ones I can think of are Blizzard games. So far Sega doesn't seem to have hade any qualms about publishing on Steam, even allowing games to use Steamworks.
It really does seem weird how much of a step back the DRM is from the direction they've been heading. What with every game now being steamworks for the retail release, and Football manager 2010 specifically removing Unilock after the problems with it in the 2009 edition. You'd think that they set it up back for the initial release date a year ago and never thought about it again afterwards or something.
Most of the time if the game is anything other than a first person shooter or third person beat 'em up Giantbomb quick looks have them flailing with controls or game mechanics. Not as bad as these guys, but enough to make you shake your head.
Man, May will be rough on the wallet since I'm planning to get both Alpha Protocol and Red Dead Redemption. My only problem will be decideing whether I should get the PC version or the 360, since 'm not quite sure if my aging rig can run this game decently.
Man, May will be rough on the wallet since I'm planning to get both Alpha Protocol and Red Dead Redemption. My only problem will be decideing whether I should get the PC version or the 360, since 'm not quite sure if my aging rig can run this game decently.
Unreal Engine 3 bodes well, Obsidian programming it does not. What are your specs?
Man, May will be rough on the wallet since I'm planning to get both Alpha Protocol and Red Dead Redemption. My only problem will be decideing whether I should get the PC version or the 360, since 'm not quite sure if my aging rig can run this game decently.
Unreal Engine 3 bodes well, Obsidian programming it does not. What are your specs?
Oh lord, I just checked the preorder "bonus" on Steam. I wonder how much Valve would charge me for not adding the abomination that is Space Siege to my Steam library.
Seriously, that's the first preorder bonus I've seen that might even scare off potential buyers.
Based off the system requirements I'd say you are cutting it very close. Are you able to run Mass Effect 1 decently? It has very similar requirements to Alpha Protocol.
Politicians do it all the time, it's why people like Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck exist -- they say absolutely insane things so the slightly unacceptable things the rest of them say look REASONABLE. They're a shield for less radical but still not quite palatable ideas.
The best example of this is in Arizona right now:
Spoilered for political talk.
Arizona passed a blatantly racist anti-minority law, but it'll be used as a shield so that the slightly racist anti-minority laws passed elsewhere look... "ok". Tolerable.
"Well, we have to do SOMETHING, and see, our law isn't near as bad as a perfectly acceptable law in Arizona!"
In 3-4 years, Arizona's law will be struck down, so they'll pick one of the slightly less racist laws they inspired to pass as a replacement. Which will be "ok", because the "center" moved to the right.
And then, following the pattern that we've been seeing since the early 80s, another state -- say, California -- will pass a law requiring all "possible illegal immigrants" to call into a case worker and update their status whenever they leave work/school/home, say perhaps with the help of a GPS device strapped to their leg, and the whole damned thing will start over. That will be completely unacceptable, of course, but it'll make the "National Immigrant Registry System" someone else will suggest look... "ok". Tolerable, even.
I have no doubt at all that in a year or two Ubisoft will relent, offering up a DRM scheme that would have still been completely unacceptable a year ago (1 install per purchase, hourly/weekly activation checks, not allowed to run any other applications while running the game...), but will look almost tame in comparison.
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Politicians do it all the time, it's why people like Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck exist -- they say absolutely insane things so the slightly unacceptable things the rest of them say look REASONABLE. They're a shield for less radical but still not quite palatable ideas.
The best example of this is in Arizona right now:
Spoilered for political talk.
Arizona passed a blatantly racist anti-minority law, but it'll be used as a shield so that the slightly racist anti-minority laws passed elsewhere look... "ok". Tolerable.
"Well, we have to do SOMETHING, and see, our law isn't near as bad as a perfectly acceptable law in Arizona!"
In 3-4 years, Arizona's law will be struck down, so they'll pick one of the slightly less racist laws they inspired to pass as a replacement. Which will be "ok", because the "center" moved to the right.
And then, following the pattern that we've been seeing since the early 80s, another state -- say, California -- will pass a law requiring all "possible illegal immigrants" to call into a case worker and update their status whenever they leave work/school/home, say perhaps with the help of a GPS device strapped to their leg, and the whole damned thing will start over. That will be completely unacceptable, of course, but it'll make the "National Immigrant Registry System" someone else will suggest look... "ok". Tolerable, even.
I have no doubt at all that in a year or two Ubisoft will relent, offering up a DRM scheme that would have still been completely unacceptable a year ago (1 install per purchase, hourly/weekly activation checks, not allowed to run any other applications while running the game...), but will look almost tame in comparison.
Seriously? Take the political BS over to D&D. Not that I don't love hearing about how states have no right to enforce what the federal government won't, but that damn sure doesn't have anything to do with this game and thusly, nobody gives a shit. If you want to be preachy about the superiority of KBAM over controllers, fine, but don't shit on the thread with political garbage.
My point was that at least on some level, Ubi's thought is that if they're a little too ambitious with their DRM, then later, stricter-but-not-THAT-strict DRM won't be shot down by the playerbase. To say nothing that the vast majority of the playbase won't care as long as it works.
Well, anyway. Back to Alpha. The videos on page 1 look freaking awesome, I hope it's half as good as it looks. I'm probably going to go as stealthy as possible, but I have to admit the idea of trying to go in as "Quake Marine in a Spy Movie" is fun, too.
Was Space Siege as bad as everyone says? I remember looking at it before it came out and thinking it would be fun to get, but it slipped under my radar before release.
Was Space Siege as bad as everyone says? I remember looking at it before it came out and thinking it would be fun to get, but it slipped under my radar before release.
I only tried the demo, ran surprisingly slow. As in, indie developed game Shadowgrounds looks better and runs better than the Space Siege Demo did. From what I've heard of the rest though, yeah it wasn't too hot.
That said, I've heard Dungeon Siege 2 was pretty good, I ought to give that a try sometime. I remember enjoying DS1.
Wait, what shitty DRM does this have? Sega's not taking a page from those obtuse fuckwits over at Ubisoft, are they?
I didn't say that it was shitty, just that it was a weird choice considering the direction they've been moving with the DRM for the other games they published
My point was that at least on some level, Ubi's thought is that if they're a little too ambitious with their DRM, then later, stricter-but-not-THAT-strict DRM won't be shot down by the playerbase. To say nothing that the vast majority of the playbase won't care as long as it works.
Well, anyway. Back to Alpha. The videos on page 1 look freaking awesome, I hope it's half as good as it looks. I'm probably going to go as stealthy as possible, but I have to admit the idea of trying to go in as "Quake Marine in a Spy Movie" is fun, too.
Was Space Siege as bad as everyone says? I remember looking at it before it came out and thinking it would be fun to get, but it slipped under my radar before release.
Yeah, you're right.
I couldn't believe the comments I've seen about how "that's not so bad" when they released the specs for this DRM.
Instead of just fucking you in the ass, now they're just giving you the reacharound and that makes it okay.
My point was that at least on some level, Ubi's thought is that if they're a little too ambitious with their DRM, then later, stricter-but-not-THAT-strict DRM won't be shot down by the playerbase. To say nothing that the vast majority of the playbase won't care as long as it works.
Well, anyway. Back to Alpha. The videos on page 1 look freaking awesome, I hope it's half as good as it looks. I'm probably going to go as stealthy as possible, but I have to admit the idea of trying to go in as "Quake Marine in a Spy Movie" is fun, too.
Was Space Siege as bad as everyone says? I remember looking at it before it came out and thinking it would be fun to get, but it slipped under my radar before release.
Yeah, you're right.
I couldn't believe the comments I've seen about how "that's not so bad" when they released the specs for this DRM.
Instead of just fucking you in the ass, now they're just giving you the reacharound and that makes it okay.
Easy to fool people I suppose.
I would have been okay with this level of DRM even before the Ubisoft nonsense, so that had nothing to do with it, for me.
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Fix'd: Stormwatcher was clearly quoting the wrong post re: his wife's moral choices.
"Ever since my divorce, every time I look at a woman, I find it hard to see past the evil".
Also; misogyny thread.
I was trying to make a Neutral Planet joke :P
[strike]Videos showing an example of a branching mission path. The 3 other videos are under the spoiler so it isn't just a huge horizontal scroll of embedded videos.[/strike]
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4615877/alpha_protocol_multipath_part_3/
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/4615970/alpha_protocol_multipath_part_4/
And an interesting tidbit from the official forums, if you max out stealth (which is more expensive than other skills) you only have enough points to max out one more skill, and you have to work at it to get that much.
As for DA2, it'll probably be announced this year but not released until the early of next year.
You mean, the February 1st insert in Awakenings? Because I was talking about the Dragon age title in EA's financial report, for Q4.
I found the multipath videos via Twitter. It works like a giant news aggregator though a big downside is seeing some headlines repeated 15+ times.
edit: Wait, maybe. It seems that they confirmed the console versions and then unconfirmed them and now they will neither confirm nor deny.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Probably going stealth + unarmed first time through. We'll see.
It's also kind of weird that the more I see of the game, the more I think of Splinter Cell with sneaking around. Splinter Cell-Splinter Cell, I mean, not the latest abortion in the series. Which is a shame, really, because a Splinter Cell game using the classic sneaking stuff but with the kind of customization and options of Alpha Protocol could have rocked many worlds.
I'm also not too greatly impressed with the animations and graphics, but oh well, having the different choices available looks way more appealing to me than some fancy shiny graphics. I do find myself wondering about the possibilities of escaping fights altogether, though. Like if you get ambushed, are you stuck fighting your way through the ambush or are there going to be ways to escape and go around the enemy? Sure, killing a bunch of baddies who ambush you means you can shoot people, but being able to just slip past them and get their boss even after they get the jump on you makes you Spy of the Month right there.
Specifically, EA's financial year goes from April to March. So when EA list the untitled Dragon Age game (which is probably another expansion), they're talking about a January-March 2011 release.
Monger: Nope. They were originally going to port Witcher 1 to the PS3/360 but that port fell through when the studio porting it apparently sucked. So far they've only announced Witcher 2's coming to the PC.
Anyway, just under two weeks till Alpha Protocol day. I really should get around to ordering it soon.
Also, Joystiq seems to reveal that the delays were for no reason other than sales posturing. I guess that's...good, I guess? They didn't go about it very well, though.
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What major PC games don't get released on Steam these days? About the only ones I can think of are Blizzard games. So far Sega doesn't seem to have hade any qualms about publishing on Steam, even allowing games to use Steamworks.
Ubisoft basically set the bullshit bar so high, anything less than that is now considered mostly alright now. Lord.
Most of the time if the game is anything other than a first person shooter or third person beat 'em up Giantbomb quick looks have them flailing with controls or game mechanics. Not as bad as these guys, but enough to make you shake your head.
Unreal Engine 3 bodes well, Obsidian programming it does not. What are your specs?
The game will be available from Steam, D2D, and Gamersgate.
Oh lord, I just checked the preorder "bonus" on Steam. I wonder how much Valve would charge me for not adding the abomination that is Space Siege to my Steam library.
Seriously, that's the first preorder bonus I've seen that might even scare off potential buyers.
You think that wasn't intentional? It's a very old trick from politics.
Politicians do it all the time, it's why people like Ann Coulter or Glenn Beck exist -- they say absolutely insane things so the slightly unacceptable things the rest of them say look REASONABLE. They're a shield for less radical but still not quite palatable ideas.
The best example of this is in Arizona right now:
Spoilered for political talk.
"Well, we have to do SOMETHING, and see, our law isn't near as bad as a perfectly acceptable law in Arizona!"
In 3-4 years, Arizona's law will be struck down, so they'll pick one of the slightly less racist laws they inspired to pass as a replacement. Which will be "ok", because the "center" moved to the right.
And then, following the pattern that we've been seeing since the early 80s, another state -- say, California -- will pass a law requiring all "possible illegal immigrants" to call into a case worker and update their status whenever they leave work/school/home, say perhaps with the help of a GPS device strapped to their leg, and the whole damned thing will start over. That will be completely unacceptable, of course, but it'll make the "National Immigrant Registry System" someone else will suggest look... "ok". Tolerable, even.
I have no doubt at all that in a year or two Ubisoft will relent, offering up a DRM scheme that would have still been completely unacceptable a year ago (1 install per purchase, hourly/weekly activation checks, not allowed to run any other applications while running the game...), but will look almost tame in comparison.
Seriously? Take the political BS over to D&D. Not that I don't love hearing about how states have no right to enforce what the federal government won't, but that damn sure doesn't have anything to do with this game and thusly, nobody gives a shit. If you want to be preachy about the superiority of KBAM over controllers, fine, but don't shit on the thread with political garbage.
My point was that at least on some level, Ubi's thought is that if they're a little too ambitious with their DRM, then later, stricter-but-not-THAT-strict DRM won't be shot down by the playerbase. To say nothing that the vast majority of the playbase won't care as long as it works.
Well, anyway. Back to Alpha. The videos on page 1 look freaking awesome, I hope it's half as good as it looks. I'm probably going to go as stealthy as possible, but I have to admit the idea of trying to go in as "Quake Marine in a Spy Movie" is fun, too.
Was Space Siege as bad as everyone says? I remember looking at it before it came out and thinking it would be fun to get, but it slipped under my radar before release.
I only tried the demo, ran surprisingly slow. As in, indie developed game Shadowgrounds looks better and runs better than the Space Siege Demo did. From what I've heard of the rest though, yeah it wasn't too hot.
That said, I've heard Dungeon Siege 2 was pretty good, I ought to give that a try sometime. I remember enjoying DS1.
I didn't say that it was shitty, just that it was a weird choice considering the direction they've been moving with the DRM for the other games they published
Yeah, you're right.
I couldn't believe the comments I've seen about how "that's not so bad" when they released the specs for this DRM.
Instead of just fucking you in the ass, now they're just giving you the reacharound and that makes it okay.
Easy to fool people I suppose.
I would have been okay with this level of DRM even before the Ubisoft nonsense, so that had nothing to do with it, for me.