Ninja Snarl PMy helmet is my burden.Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
Darcy and the shooting range:
everyone critted him in the balls, right? I mean, it's the only logical, rational spy maneuver available.
So not a perfect game, but it's growing on me pretty quickly. Fulfilling Mina's request in particular got a good laugh out of me, both in the asking and in the results.
I was really impressed that there are completely hidden missions just in the tutorial that you only get with a high mission score. Did them all for a bit of fun.
SOundsPlush, if you can find it, they did a conference at PAX I think where it showed how it takes something like 67 days or something to produce 2 seconds of gameplay because of all the interconnected scenes and choice reviewing that takes place in the game.
Yeah, the But Thou Must one? I saw that. I thought Avellone and the other guy were fairly endearing personalities and I feel bad for them, due to the power of Metacritic scores and the game's overly harsh assessment.
Since I'm only partway in my first run, I can't really say much on the branching influence yet, but I'm looking forward to finding out.
If youre in Saudi its defninitely not evident, its much more obvious when you get into the 3 main hubs. Saudi is basically just an extended prologue to set up the core plot.
I just finished Moscow entirely, the first one I did. Starting Rome. From what I've read in this thread, it definitely won't become apparent until subsequent runs though.
I felt it was fairly apparent, perhaps because of how people were actually discussing the things I had done with me so I felt they were reacting. They'd react to me getting an alert in a mission for instance.
And reading spoilers in this thread, people have had entirely different end bosses and turned characters I didn't think were possible.
My second run is going much smoother, more capping people with instant head shots and controlling dialogue better.
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TrippyJingMoses supposes his toeses are roses.But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered Userregular
edited June 2010
The Choose-Your-Own-Adventure bits are definitely better than the actual sneaking and shooting bits in this game. I should probably get myself a copy of Way of the Samurai, I think.
[23:15] <SSX-Anubis> I went for the perfect spy dedicated to his country. Had G22 back me up, with Albatross as my handler. Sis got me out of the medbay, I then downloaded data instead of contacting Parker - with the head of the CHinese Secret Police then patching in to warn me that Scarlet was the Taiwanese assassin (which I had not seen coming)
[23:16] <SSX-Anubis> Killed Parker and Darcy, and chose to go after Westridge to uncover the program rather than save Mina (possibly a mistake I think). I then left Westridge chained up in the facility, to either die with it or go to court
[23:17] <SSX-Anubis> finally, I went to spare Leland to go through the courts, but was shot by Scarlet. I managed to bribe her to take out Leland instead, and then escaped
[23:15] <SSX-Anubis> I went for the perfect spy dedicated to his country. Had G22 back me up, with Albatross as my handler. Sis got me out of the medbay, I then downloaded data instead of contacting Parker - with the head of the CHinese Secret Police then patching in to warn me that Scarlet was the Taiwanese assassin (which I had not seen coming)
[23:16] <SSX-Anubis> Killed Parker and Darcy, and chose to go after Westridge to uncover the program rather than save Mina (possibly a mistake I think). I then left Westridge chained up in the facility, to either die with it or go to court
[23:17] <SSX-Anubis> finally, I went to spare Leland to go through the courts, but was shot by Scarlet. I managed to bribe her to take out Leland instead, and then escaped
Man Scarlet must have hated him, she loved me and confessed about being the assassin and joined my side alongside HEck and Mina to kick some ass.
[23:15] <SSX-Anubis> I went for the perfect spy dedicated to his country. Had G22 back me up, with Albatross as my handler. Sis got me out of the medbay, I then downloaded data instead of contacting Parker - with the head of the CHinese Secret Police then patching in to warn me that Scarlet was the Taiwanese assassin (which I had not seen coming)
[23:16] <SSX-Anubis> Killed Parker and Darcy, and chose to go after Westridge to uncover the program rather than save Mina (possibly a mistake I think). I then left Westridge chained up in the facility, to either die with it or go to court
[23:17] <SSX-Anubis> finally, I went to spare Leland to go through the courts, but was shot by Scarlet. I managed to bribe her to take out Leland instead, and then escaped
Man Scarlet must have hated him, she loved me and confessed about being the assassin and joined my side alongside HEck and Mina to kick some ass.
First time I played it through, Grigori hated my guts but Surkov liked my professional approach. He was quite happy to invite me into his office, we chatted about Brayko and off I go to spoil Brayko's day.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
I keep saying it but this is the only game I can think of where people actually react to things you're doing and events react to what you're doing. Its set a benchmark for choice in games.
Someone go grab Birdojin and get him to pass on support to Obsidian for me.
Having played it some, It is pretty fun, not nearly as bad as I thought. However there are several things I dont like so far.
-Main Voice actors delivery is weird on alot of lines, like he said one thing then the other was spliced together. Also not a big fan of his voice, seems off for the character hard to explain.
-No quicksave/quickload is pretty annoying
-The game freezes for half a second (I guess to autosave?) and flips the camera all over messing me up.
-Needs more time to figure out what you want to say in dialogue.
-Lip synching is way off.
-That damn hacking minigame. I can't believe how bad it is. Not to mention how kb/m makes it even worse.
I keep saying it but this is the only game I can think of where people actually react to things you're doing and events react to what you're doing. Its set a benchmark for choice in games.
Someone go grab Birdojin and get him to pass on support to Obsidian for me.
Having played it some, It is pretty fun, not nearly as bad as I thought. However there are several things I dont like so far.
-Main Voice actors delivery is weird on alot of lines, like he said one thing then the other was spliced together. Also not a big fan of his voice, seems off for the character hard to explain.
-No quicksave/quickload is pretty annoying
-The game freezes for half a second (I guess to autosave?) and flips the camera all over messing me up.
-Needs more time to figure out what you want to say in dialogue.
-Lip synching is way off.
-That damn hacking minigame. I can't believe how bad it is. Not to mention how kb/m makes it even worse.
Just take Interference and stock up on EMPs. I took it just for lockpicking, because I use a gamepad that isn't a 360 controller, so the fucking triggers are treated as buttons instead of sliders...
I keep saying it but this is the only game I can think of where people actually react to things you're doing and events react to what you're doing. Its set a benchmark for choice in games.
Someone go grab Birdojin and get him to pass on support to Obsidian for me.
He's at bioware though...
I know but he must know someone there or a way to contact them and tell them that they've made an awesome game.
First time I played it through, Grigori hated my guts but Surkov liked my professional approach. He was quite happy to invite me into his office, we chatted about Brayko and off I go to spoil Brayko's day.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
Yeah forget the ridiculously overcritical reviews, I want to give the game another playthrough. I wasn't even inclined enough to give Mass Effect 2 a second playthrough right away, and I think that's an awesome game.
As for claims of how short the game is, Steam is telling me that I probably logged about 30 hours on my first playthrough. Call it 25, I might've been alt-tabbed for a few hours. That's still a pretty lengthy game.
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MongerI got the ham stink.Dallas, TXRegistered Userregular
-Main Voice actors delivery is weird on alot of lines, like he said one thing then the other was spliced together. Also not a big fan of his voice, seems off for the character hard to explain.
He's a deadpan snarker. I can see it rubbing a lot of people the wrong way, but I really like the way he's characterized. Although there are a few places where they break character a little bit to squish something into one of the dialogue stances, and that can sound kind of awkward.
-Main Voice actors delivery is weird on alot of lines, like he said one thing then the other was spliced together. Also not a big fan of his voice, seems off for the character hard to explain.
He's a deadpan snarker. I can see it rubbing a lot of people the wrong way, but I really like the way he's characterized. Although there are a few places where they break character a little bit to squish something into one of the dialogue stances, and that can sound kind of awkward.
I thought his voicework was top notch, apart from the aforementioned occasions when the dialogue stances don't quite match up before and after the join. But I found those surprisingly few and far between.
I'd easily rate him way above Mark Meer in Mass Effect. That's not even a slight against Meer either.
For the hacking minigame, I have yet to try it with KBAM, but a wired 360 controller has made it perfectly acceptable. There was only one hacking instance I detested, where the timer that reshuffles the codes was like two or three times faster than normal. I barely had enough time to get a segment down to its place before it shuffled off, even when finding them quickly. Also, the camera spazzing might be due to mouse, as I've had no sight of it with the pad.
First time I played it through, Grigori hated my guts but Surkov liked my professional approach. He was quite happy to invite me into his office, we chatted about Brayko and off I go to spoil Brayko's day.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
Yeah forget the ridiculously overcritical reviews, I want to give the game another playthrough. I wasn't even inclined enough to give Mass Effect 2 a second playthrough right away, and I think that's an awesome game.
As for claims of how short the game is, Steam is telling me that I probably logged about 30 hours on my first playthrough. Call it 25, I might've been alt-tabbed for a few hours. That's still a pretty lengthy game.
I would like to see a post by a reviewer explaining their low score, especially compared to games in similar states. Perhaps nothing is out of the ordinary, but it does seem like there's a little too much bashing going on. I'm only 1 real mission in and I'm digging it besides the bugs and the console UI.
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First time I played it through, Grigori hated my guts but Surkov liked my professional approach. He was quite happy to invite me into his office, we chatted about Brayko and off I go to spoil Brayko's day.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
Yeah forget the ridiculously overcritical reviews, I want to give the game another playthrough. I wasn't even inclined enough to give Mass Effect 2 a second playthrough right away, and I think that's an awesome game.
As for claims of how short the game is, Steam is telling me that I probably logged about 30 hours on my first playthrough. Call it 25, I might've been alt-tabbed for a few hours. That's still a pretty lengthy game.
I would like to see a post by a reviewer explaining their low score, especially compared to games in similar states. Perhaps nothing is out of the ordinary, but it does seem like there's a little too much bashing going on. I'm only 1 real mission in and I'm digging it besides the bugs and the console UI.
I just keep thinking that Fallout 3 scored in the mid-to-high 90's everywhere, but apart from being open world as an RPG pretty much everything I could think of in that game I thought was worse or a lot worse than AP.
- Character models? Bad
- Animations? Appalling
- Dialogue? Passable to bad
- Voicework? Same deal. Even Liam Neeson sounded bored, and dude was the star talent.
- Storyline? Pretty much crap
- Shooting? Passable
- AI? Don't even start regarding the AI.
I mean I really enjoyed Fallout 3 for its open world and exploration, but the gameplay mechanics were pretty much a hindrance half the time, and the storyline and characters were crap. In AP I'm having fun jump-kneeing people inna face and pistol headshotting mans around corners, and all I'm hearing is how bad the gameplay is, the animations are horrible.
About the only complaint I could really see is it being buggy (Fallout 3 was pretty stable for me), but then I guess I must be one of the rare people who didn't really run into any real bugs. There were a few occasional AI gaffs and things like that, but on the whole the game ran really solid for me, and I was alt-tabbing in and out pretty regularly. Certainly nothing that forced a restart or crash.
Anybody order this from Amazon, they still haven't shipped my copy.
My order changed to Shipping Soon yesterday (meaning they charged me for my order), and it still says that today. The delivery estimate says June 3rd (Thursday), which I find odd because I chose one-day shipping. That estimate has been wrong before, though. The order page also generally updates sometime after the product actually ships, so I'm expecting it should ship or has shipped today and the page will just update later tonight.
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First time I played it through, Grigori hated my guts but Surkov liked my professional approach. He was quite happy to invite me into his office, we chatted about Brayko and off I go to spoil Brayko's day.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
Yeah forget the ridiculously overcritical reviews, I want to give the game another playthrough. I wasn't even inclined enough to give Mass Effect 2 a second playthrough right away, and I think that's an awesome game.
As for claims of how short the game is, Steam is telling me that I probably logged about 30 hours on my first playthrough. Call it 25, I might've been alt-tabbed for a few hours. That's still a pretty lengthy game.
I would like to see a post by a reviewer explaining their low score, especially compared to games in similar states. Perhaps nothing is out of the ordinary, but it does seem like there's a little too much bashing going on. I'm only 1 real mission in and I'm digging it besides the bugs and the console UI.
I just keep thinking that Fallout 3 scored in the mid-to-high 90's everywhere, but apart from being open world pretty as an RPG pretty much everything I could think of in that game I thought was worse or a lot worse than AP.
- Character models? Bad
- Animations? Appalling
- Dialogue? Passable to bad
- Voicework? Same deal. Even Liam Neeson sounded bored, and dude was the star talent.
- Storyline? Pretty much crap
- Shooting? Passable
- AI? Don't even start regarding the AI.
I mean I really enjoyed Fallout 3 for its open world and exploration, but the gameplay mechanics were pretty much a hindrance half the time, and the storyline and characters were crap. In AP I'm having fun jump-kneeing people inna face and pistol headshotting mans around corners, and all I'm hearing is how bad the gameplay is, the animations are horrible.
About the only complaint I could really see is it being buggy (Fallout 3 was pretty stable for me), but then I guess I must be one of the rare people who didn't really run into any real bugs. There were a few occasional AI gaffs and things like that, but on the whole the game ran really solid for me, and I was alt-tabbing in and out pretty regularly. Certainly nothing that forced a restart or crash.
Basically there are literally dozens if not hundreds of games that are worse than Alpha Protocol, not to say its bad at all, many of them purported AAA titles but it seems to be hip to hate on this because 'lol KOTOR2 wasn't finished and we are angry about that, rawr'. I felt bitter disappointment in Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 1 and 2 is vastly superior but its still a timid game pretending to be big on choice. I've had a tonne of fun with this and Im going to replay it with my new knowledge and enjoy it again which I rarely do.
So can this game be completed with 0 alarms activated? It seems like you always get one from the beginning of the tutorial mission.. or is there someway around the intro-to-alarm-bypass without setting off the alarm?
So can this game be completed with 0 alarms activated? It seems like you always get one from the beginning of the tutorial mission.. or is there someway around the intro-to-alarm-bypass without setting off the alarm?
The tutorial will not progress until the alarm goes off.
First time I played it through, Grigori hated my guts but Surkov liked my professional approach. He was quite happy to invite me into his office, we chatted about Brayko and off I go to spoil Brayko's day.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
Yeah forget the ridiculously overcritical reviews, I want to give the game another playthrough. I wasn't even inclined enough to give Mass Effect 2 a second playthrough right away, and I think that's an awesome game.
As for claims of how short the game is, Steam is telling me that I probably logged about 30 hours on my first playthrough. Call it 25, I might've been alt-tabbed for a few hours. That's still a pretty lengthy game.
I would like to see a post by a reviewer explaining their low score, especially compared to games in similar states. Perhaps nothing is out of the ordinary, but it does seem like there's a little too much bashing going on. I'm only 1 real mission in and I'm digging it besides the bugs and the console UI.
I just keep thinking that Fallout 3 scored in the mid-to-high 90's everywhere, but apart from being open world as an RPG pretty much everything I could think of in that game I thought was worse or a lot worse than AP.
- Character models? Bad
- Animations? Appalling
- Dialogue? Passable to bad
- Voicework? Same deal. Even Liam Neeson sounded bored, and dude was the star talent.
- Storyline? Pretty much crap
- Shooting? Passable
- AI? Don't even start regarding the AI.
I mean I really enjoyed Fallout 3 for its open world and exploration, but the gameplay mechanics were pretty much a hindrance half the time, and the storyline and characters were crap. In AP I'm having fun jump-kneeing people inna face and pistol headshotting mans around corners, and all I'm hearing is how bad the gameplay is, the animations are horrible.
About the only complaint I could really see is it being buggy (Fallout 3 was pretty stable for me), but then I guess I must be one of the rare people who didn't really run into any real bugs. There were a few occasional AI gaffs and things like that, but on the whole the game ran really solid for me, and I was alt-tabbing in and out pretty regularly. Certainly nothing that forced a restart or crash.
Yeah, Fallout 3 would crash randomly and without warning every 10-60 mins - never worked out what was causing that, but was enough to divert my attention onto other things and haven't yet gone back to it. Even Mass Effect 2 had the 'float until you hit the ceiling and have to reload your save' glitch. Alpha Protocol glitches have just been mostly silly for me - such as getting an XP bonus for taking out a mini-boss with my guns, then punching a goon 10 seconds later and getting another bonus for taking the mini-boos out non-lethally with my fists. The mission summary screen was...interesting.
Actually yeah, now that you mention it, Mass Effect 2 glitched out on me a lot more. Usually it was because my character somehow ended up walking above the scenery or glitch outside the level geometry and there was no way to get him back other than reloading.
I'm really enjoying this game. I think you guys blew the faults way out of proportion. Though to be fair I'm still in Saudi Arabia, so maybe it gets worse?
I'm really enjoying this game. I think you guys blew the faults way out of proportion. Though to be fair I'm still in Saudi Arabia, so maybe it gets worse?
It only gets better!
Also I did it in the order of Moscow, Rome then Taipei. He actually comments on the Taipei safehouse compared to the other two.
Even Mass Effect 2 had the 'float until you hit the ceiling and have to reload your save' glitch.
Yea... it happened to me once in four playthroughs. Once. One time. Not a big deal.
The floaty thing happened to me constantly when I was doing that one side mission where you have to fight three heavy mechs at once. On Nightmare, first play through with as an Infiltrator, and right after getting my first team member after the Miranda and Jacob.
It took awhile to figure out how to juke out their AI enough to kite them around the shuttle's back and get back to the cover in the middle before they overwhelmed me. Getting stuck in the air every other try did not help that.
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Anybody order this from Amazon, they still haven't shipped my copy.
My order changed to Shipping Soon yesterday (meaning they charged me for my order), and it still says that today. The delivery estimate says June 3rd (Thursday), which I find odd because I chose one-day shipping. That estimate has been wrong before, though. The order page also generally updates sometime after the product actually ships, so I'm expecting it should ship or has shipped today and the page will just update later tonight.
I opted for the free shipping (yeah I'm cheap like that), and my order status still isn't even at the shipping soon stage yet.
Looks like Amazon maybe getting their shipment late or something.
The free shipping used to be amazingly fast, but in like the past year or so it seems like they choose half of them and sit on the processing stage for a few days to try to convince you to shell out for shipping.... Though it's probably just waiting for enough to make batch processing the free orders more efficient.
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SOundsPlush, if you can find it, they did a conference at PAX I think where it showed how it takes something like 67 days or something to produce 2 seconds of gameplay because of all the interconnected scenes and choice reviewing that takes place in the game.
Since I'm only partway in my first run, I can't really say much on the branching influence yet, but I'm looking forward to finding out.
And reading spoilers in this thread, people have had entirely different end bosses and turned characters I didn't think were possible.
My second run is going much smoother, more capping people with instant head shots and controlling dialogue better.
[23:16] <SSX-Anubis> Killed Parker and Darcy, and chose to go after Westridge to uncover the program rather than save Mina (possibly a mistake I think). I then left Westridge chained up in the facility, to either die with it or go to court
[23:17] <SSX-Anubis> finally, I went to spare Leland to go through the courts, but was shot by Scarlet. I managed to bribe her to take out Leland instead, and then escaped
Same here.
Second time through I'm playing Ultra Aggressive Rookie Mike Thorton. Grigori got headslammed into the bar, and Surkov is already on the defensive when he meets me. He reluctantly accepts my help to get out of the embassy, we defeat the guards...
And then he pulls a gun on me.
At which point I obviously chose the "Disarm" option, Mike spins and rips the gun from him.
And since this is don't mess with Mike Thorton day, I had to choose the "Shoot him in the leg" option.
Surkov isn't so tough with a leg wound, spills on Brayko and shuffles off.
It then flashes back to the present day where Leland comments "I wondered how he got the limp...."
In short, trying an ultra aggressive playstyle has shown me completely different scenes to my normal passive stealthy professional way of playing games like this. I've alienated characters completely and made new friends, its fascinating to watch the world shift around.
Currently i've gone
Playthrough 1 - Freelancer/Operative, play it how I naturally react
Playthrough 2 - Recruit/Operative - Ultra Aggressive
And Playthrough 3 when I unlock Veteran mode I'm going to see how well you can do playing super-spy Mike Thorton with nothing but the "Suave" dialogue options. I do hope there is a scene where someone goes "Oh shit its Mike Thorton" and runs away.
Someone go grab Birdojin and get him to pass on support to Obsidian for me.
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-Main Voice actors delivery is weird on alot of lines, like he said one thing then the other was spliced together. Also not a big fan of his voice, seems off for the character hard to explain.
-No quicksave/quickload is pretty annoying
-The game freezes for half a second (I guess to autosave?) and flips the camera all over messing me up.
-Needs more time to figure out what you want to say in dialogue.
-Lip synching is way off.
-That damn hacking minigame. I can't believe how bad it is. Not to mention how kb/m makes it even worse.
He's at bioware though...
Just take Interference and stock up on EMPs. I took it just for lockpicking, because I use a gamepad that isn't a 360 controller, so the fucking triggers are treated as buttons instead of sliders...
The Raid
I know but he must know someone there or a way to contact them and tell them that they've made an awesome game.
Yeah forget the ridiculously overcritical reviews, I want to give the game another playthrough. I wasn't even inclined enough to give Mass Effect 2 a second playthrough right away, and I think that's an awesome game.
As for claims of how short the game is, Steam is telling me that I probably logged about 30 hours on my first playthrough. Call it 25, I might've been alt-tabbed for a few hours. That's still a pretty lengthy game.
That would completely undermine the design. I like that they don't pull any punches on how quick on your feet they expect you to be.
All right, people. It is not a gerbil. It is not a hamster. It is not a guinea pig. It is a death rabbit. Death. Rabbit. Say it with me, now.
Now I have a conundrum either to keep it and play or return it.
How this affects you: If I DO return it I'll still have a free code from GS for 'exclusive downloadable blahblahblah' to give to some lucky chap.
Of course it has to get here first.
I thought his voicework was top notch, apart from the aforementioned occasions when the dialogue stances don't quite match up before and after the join. But I found those surprisingly few and far between.
I'd easily rate him way above Mark Meer in Mass Effect. That's not even a slight against Meer either.
You could always tweet Avellone. Seems like he's replying to some.
EDIT: I dont have twitter
Nolan North, so probably. He is in everything.
I would like to see a post by a reviewer explaining their low score, especially compared to games in similar states. Perhaps nothing is out of the ordinary, but it does seem like there's a little too much bashing going on. I'm only 1 real mission in and I'm digging it besides the bugs and the console UI.
"Read twice, post once. It's almost like 'measure twice, cut once' only with reading." - MetaverseNomad
I just keep thinking that Fallout 3 scored in the mid-to-high 90's everywhere, but apart from being open world as an RPG pretty much everything I could think of in that game I thought was worse or a lot worse than AP.
- Character models? Bad
- Animations? Appalling
- Dialogue? Passable to bad
- Voicework? Same deal. Even Liam Neeson sounded bored, and dude was the star talent.
- Storyline? Pretty much crap
- Shooting? Passable
- AI? Don't even start regarding the AI.
I mean I really enjoyed Fallout 3 for its open world and exploration, but the gameplay mechanics were pretty much a hindrance half the time, and the storyline and characters were crap. In AP I'm having fun jump-kneeing people inna face and pistol headshotting mans around corners, and all I'm hearing is how bad the gameplay is, the animations are horrible.
About the only complaint I could really see is it being buggy (Fallout 3 was pretty stable for me), but then I guess I must be one of the rare people who didn't really run into any real bugs. There were a few occasional AI gaffs and things like that, but on the whole the game ran really solid for me, and I was alt-tabbing in and out pretty regularly. Certainly nothing that forced a restart or crash.
My order changed to Shipping Soon yesterday (meaning they charged me for my order), and it still says that today. The delivery estimate says June 3rd (Thursday), which I find odd because I chose one-day shipping. That estimate has been wrong before, though. The order page also generally updates sometime after the product actually ships, so I'm expecting it should ship or has shipped today and the page will just update later tonight.
Basically there are literally dozens if not hundreds of games that are worse than Alpha Protocol, not to say its bad at all, many of them purported AAA titles but it seems to be hip to hate on this because 'lol KOTOR2 wasn't finished and we are angry about that, rawr'. I felt bitter disappointment in Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 1 and 2 is vastly superior but its still a timid game pretending to be big on choice. I've had a tonne of fun with this and Im going to replay it with my new knowledge and enjoy it again which I rarely do.
The tutorial will not progress until the alarm goes off.
Not sure about the rest.
Yeah, Fallout 3 would crash randomly and without warning every 10-60 mins - never worked out what was causing that, but was enough to divert my attention onto other things and haven't yet gone back to it. Even Mass Effect 2 had the 'float until you hit the ceiling and have to reload your save' glitch. Alpha Protocol glitches have just been mostly silly for me - such as getting an XP bonus for taking out a mini-boss with my guns, then punching a goon 10 seconds later and getting another bonus for taking the mini-boos out non-lethally with my fists. The mission summary screen was...interesting.
It only gets better!
Also I did it in the order of Moscow, Rome then Taipei. He actually comments on the Taipei safehouse compared to the other two.
Yea... it happened to me once in four playthroughs. Once. One time. Not a big deal.
Wow
The floaty thing happened to me constantly when I was doing that one side mission where you have to fight three heavy mechs at once. On Nightmare, first play through with as an Infiltrator, and right after getting my first team member after the Miranda and Jacob.
It took awhile to figure out how to juke out their AI enough to kite them around the shuttle's back and get back to the cover in the middle before they overwhelmed me. Getting stuck in the air every other try did not help that.
"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
I opted for the free shipping (yeah I'm cheap like that), and my order status still isn't even at the shipping soon stage yet.
Looks like Amazon maybe getting their shipment late or something.