The biggest issue with SF4 matchmaking is it goes by the initial reported connection strength and doesn't change the bars, I have played many 2 bar matches that were as smooth as 4+ bar matches once the game started.
Really? Again, I'm assuming Xbox version? I've been in matches with people and seen the bars go up or down a notch.
Though in your defense I have had one time where I was in a player match with someone and for some reason after the first fight his connection dropped to 2 bars and stayed there but our match was unaffected.
But again, it changed. I assumed that one time thing was a glitch.
The biggest issue with SF4 matchmaking is it goes by the initial reported connection strength and doesn't change the bars, I have played many 2 bar matches that were as smooth as 4+ bar matches once the game started.
Really? Again, I'm assuming Xbox version? I've been in matches with people and seen the bars go up or down a notch.
Though in your defense I have had one time where I was in a player match with someone and for some reason after the first fight his connection dropped to 2 bars and stayed there but our match was unaffected.
But again, it changed. I assumed that one time thing was a glitch.
Sometimes I'll get the "instant" change when they first enter a lobby or something. Like I'll be sitting in a lobby, someone will join and it'll go from 2 bars to 3 bars real fast. But over the course of X matches the bars NEVER change.
I once forgot to turn off my torrent d/ls and had 2 bars with a friend that I usually have 4 bars with. I went and shut it off and it stayed at "2 bars" for the 20+ some odd matches we played. The connection was fine however.
(EDIT) yeah, this is 360... for me anyway. I imagine it's the same for PS3.
Guess that sounds like the case then. Wonder if they tweaked things like that at all or if the netcode(as a whole, not just the actual netcode) really is unchanged in every way. With all the additions they added I would hope they tweaked little settings like that at least.
So after playing around in a rotation of SSF4 for probably agood 7-8 hours last night - I have got to say that El Fuerte's Ultra 2 is fucking incredible and makes me so SO happy.
Was gonna preorder at Best Buy, they canceled the offer. They stopped taking preorders entirely. But it's Rewards certificates, and I don't give a shit about bonuses, so I'll just show up on Tuesday.
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The only thing I'm worried about with SSF4 is the new characters completely dominating the older characters who weren't already tops.
Some of them seemed to have got decent boost, but a lot seem to be SOL.
The only thing I'm worried about with SSF4 is the new characters completely dominating the older characters who weren't already tops.
Some of them seemed to have got decent boost, but a lot seem to be SOL.
Haha yeah. I read in one place that damage overall has been toned down, then I see that Cody combo video showing damage output that would have him up there in the tiers if he was in Vanilla....
So after playing around in a rotation of SSF4 for probably agood 7-8 hours last night - I have got to say that El Fuerte's Ultra 2 is fucking incredible and makes me so SO happy.
Why yes, I CAN punish your sonic boom.
oh shit, give us more info about how he's looking in Super, dude.
How is he faring against his bad match-ups?
How is he faring against the new cast?
Any new tools to use in his arsenal for mix-ups or okizeme? Is his normals a bit better now - can be used for some footsies?
Well, for the most part I was playing newer characters, but his new ultra definitely makes Fuerte a lot more viable. Once he has Ultra, you basically have to worry about doing anything because it's so fast. The range on it isn't all that far, but it doesn't matter all that much since as Fuerte unless you are turtling you aren't trying to be far away from anyone anyway.
Fuerte really seems to do OK against most of the new characters. I'm thinking he'll probably be about even with his match-ups in this as well (4/6, 5/5, 6/4) - it didn't seem like any of the new characters totally dominated him although because I focus so much, Cody was giving me trouble with that instant armor breaking slide he has. Ibuki wasn't all that difficult of a match but people had only been playing her for a few hours so I really can't say. Guy seems really solid against Fuerte, but I was also playing arguably our best player who also mained Guy in Alpha and was already doing some pretty crazy stuff with him.
Normals didn't seem different at all, though focus attacks are faster now which really helps me out. Loop is still there and seems to work the same - there are a few normals for other characters that seem different that actually really helps me (Rufus for instance, used to be able to jump roundhouse after me if I jumped backwards - it doesn't appear to connect anymore, so that's very helpful in that match-up). Also, Ultra's doing less damage for the most part really helps as well because it's not so much like that match is over if someone lands an ultra on me.
Fuerte will probably move up a tier at least because of Ultra 2 from what I have seen, but he still won't be top tier. Also, depending on how the new characters work out once people have figured them out - but I think Fuerte will be C or maybe even B tier depending.
Probably Ibuki or maybe Guy. Hakan is still a little interesting to me but I just don't know if I can play a character like that. I need someone that can jump all over the screen and do lots of mix-ups.
I am actually having a tough time deciding on someone else to use for a 2v2 tourney/league we will be running. You get to choose 2 characters for it, and I'll probably just use Fuerte but I am trying to think of a character that would complement him a bit if I do end up having any awful match-ups in SSF4.
Forgot to post this the other day, but I ran into P-Bass the other day randomly during ranked play then we decided to go rounds. We must have played for hours, it was great!
Bass played a variety of characters against my Gouken. Of course, the biggest problems I had were against Boxer and Blanka. I always feel a little funny playing against opponents that are able to play a host of different characters where I just play the one, but I haven't been able to find another character that "feels" right for me yet. Maybe the new roster will offer a change, but I can't see myself straying too far from the roided-up old man.
You've got a really strong Chun game man, keep it up! Your Boxer and Blanka are great too, though you could probably be terrible with them and I'd still lose.
Forgot to post this the other day, but I ran into P-Bass the other day randomly during ranked play then we decided to go rounds. We must have played for hours, it was great!
Bass played a variety of characters against my Gouken. Of course, the biggest problems I had were against Boxer and Blanka. I always feel a little funny playing against opponents that are able to play a host of different characters where I just play the one, but I haven't been able to find another character that "feels" right for me yet. Maybe the new roster will offer a change, but I can't see myself straying too far from the roided-up old man.
You've got a really strong Chun game man, keep it up! Your Boxer and Blanka are great too, though you could probably be terrible with them and I'd still lose.
GGs man. Nice demon flip mix-ups, had me guessing (wrong). I don't think it was part of your game the last time we played.
Chun is fun and all (and she'll likely still be in my rotation for player matches), but see avatar/sig for who I'll likely be spending more time on. Chun has an interesting moveset and it's a change in pace, but it's a little too situational (like AA) for me to be comfortable. Whoring out Ultra 2 should be fun though.
Oh and you also picked up on my other method for handling Guile and Chun players - Kongoshin the fireball while you follow it and get smacked in the face. I love being able to pull that off because it screws with people who depend on that strategy, but you adjusted really fast.
Amazon even gave me the option of Free Release Day Shipping - I'm not sure if that means Amazon Fresh is dropping it off or what but I'm kind of pyshced about it.
Amazon even gave me the option of Free Release Day Shipping - I'm not sure if that means Amazon Fresh is dropping it off or what but I'm kind of pyshced about it.
Yeah same here. Originally I was just at 2-day shipping with amazon prime and then they said, know what? fuck it, have it on release day.
Amazon even gave me the option of Free Release Day Shipping - I'm not sure if that means Amazon Fresh is dropping it off or what but I'm kind of pyshced about it.
Yeah same here. Originally I was just at 2-day shipping with amazon prime and then they said, know what? fuck it, have it on release day.
They added it for everyone. I plan to work from home that day..."work". .
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The Japanese collector's edition, yes. There is no US collector's edition (aside from the Dojo pack from the Capcom Store) and as of right now it looks like the Juri anime might not make it over here.
Btw, the anime movies for the new characters are kind of interesting, they aren't fully animated anymore, they are more like still pictures with voice over - which isn't really a problem I guess but it was kind of odd.
The Japanese collector's edition, yes. There is no US collector's edition (aside from the Dojo pack from the Capcom Store) and as of right now it looks like the Juri anime might not make it over here.
But it's dubbed....
Last I heard, it was going to be released as an XBL Marketplace video.
Which, if true, will be the first Marketplace video I ever purchased.
The Japanese collector's edition, yes. There is no US collector's edition (aside from the Dojo pack from the Capcom Store) and as of right now it looks like the Juri anime might not make it over here.
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Though in your defense I have had one time where I was in a player match with someone and for some reason after the first fight his connection dropped to 2 bars and stayed there but our match was unaffected.
But again, it changed. I assumed that one time thing was a glitch.
Sometimes I'll get the "instant" change when they first enter a lobby or something. Like I'll be sitting in a lobby, someone will join and it'll go from 2 bars to 3 bars real fast. But over the course of X matches the bars NEVER change.
I once forgot to turn off my torrent d/ls and had 2 bars with a friend that I usually have 4 bars with. I went and shut it off and it stayed at "2 bars" for the 20+ some odd matches we played. The connection was fine however.
(EDIT) yeah, this is 360... for me anyway. I imagine it's the same for PS3.
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Why yes, I CAN punish your sonic boom.
Some of them seemed to have got decent boost, but a lot seem to be SOL.
oh shit, give us more info about how he's looking in Super, dude.
How is he faring against his bad match-ups?
How is he faring against the new cast?
Any new tools to use in his arsenal for mix-ups or okizeme? Is his normals a bit better now - can be used for some footsies?
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Fuerte really seems to do OK against most of the new characters. I'm thinking he'll probably be about even with his match-ups in this as well (4/6, 5/5, 6/4) - it didn't seem like any of the new characters totally dominated him although because I focus so much, Cody was giving me trouble with that instant armor breaking slide he has. Ibuki wasn't all that difficult of a match but people had only been playing her for a few hours so I really can't say. Guy seems really solid against Fuerte, but I was also playing arguably our best player who also mained Guy in Alpha and was already doing some pretty crazy stuff with him.
Normals didn't seem different at all, though focus attacks are faster now which really helps me out. Loop is still there and seems to work the same - there are a few normals for other characters that seem different that actually really helps me (Rufus for instance, used to be able to jump roundhouse after me if I jumped backwards - it doesn't appear to connect anymore, so that's very helpful in that match-up). Also, Ultra's doing less damage for the most part really helps as well because it's not so much like that match is over if someone lands an ultra on me.
Fuerte will probably move up a tier at least because of Ultra 2 from what I have seen, but he still won't be top tier. Also, depending on how the new characters work out once people have figured them out - but I think Fuerte will be C or maybe even B tier depending.
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I am actually having a tough time deciding on someone else to use for a 2v2 tourney/league we will be running. You get to choose 2 characters for it, and I'll probably just use Fuerte but I am trying to think of a character that would complement him a bit if I do end up having any awful match-ups in SSF4.
Bass played a variety of characters against my Gouken. Of course, the biggest problems I had were against Boxer and Blanka. I always feel a little funny playing against opponents that are able to play a host of different characters where I just play the one, but I haven't been able to find another character that "feels" right for me yet. Maybe the new roster will offer a change, but I can't see myself straying too far from the roided-up old man.
You've got a really strong Chun game man, keep it up! Your Boxer and Blanka are great too, though you could probably be terrible with them and I'd still lose.
Chun is fun and all (and she'll likely still be in my rotation for player matches), but see avatar/sig for who I'll likely be spending more time on.
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And the new costume pack for Guile, Blanka, Dhalsim, Gen and Fei Long.
YES! Bout time old man.
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Yeah same here. Originally I was just at 2-day shipping with amazon prime and then they said, know what? fuck it, have it on release day.
They added it for everyone. I plan to work from home that day..."work".
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gg's :0
Is it better than the US limited edition?
Anyone know if I imported the Asia/Japan edition, will I be able to play with people in US?
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i want Hakan's theme with the vocals in it... the one with Wacko being all "daa daaaa da da da da daaaaaaa"
Do we still have no info on when this is coming out? I'm dying to watch it, especially as a primer for SSFIV.
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Btw, the anime movies for the new characters are kind of interesting, they aren't fully animated anymore, they are more like still pictures with voice over - which isn't really a problem I guess but it was kind of odd.
But it's dubbed....
Last I heard, it was going to be released as an XBL Marketplace video.
Which, if true, will be the first Marketplace video I ever purchased.
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