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Co-worker and the bathroom
Asuma
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I work in a a multi-story building at a large company. Each floor has a men's/women's bathroom. Recently another department was shifted onto our floor, and shortly after someone started leaving toilets unflushed (edit: and uncleaned messes) in the bathroom. By coincidence I happened to discover who it was, because on more than one occasion we were the only ones in the bathroom and he repeated this behavior. We do have both stalls and urinals, but every time it seems he uses the stall. We do not know each other, nor do we interact organizationally.
I find this habit revolting (so far it is just piss and toilet tissue, but...), to the point I'd almost rather go up or down a flight of stairs to avoid dealing with it. My choices seem to be:
1. Suck it up and flush/clean if I happen to be the next person
2. Pick another floor to do my thing
3. Find some way to get a change in behavior
Opinions?
I find this habit revolting (so far it is just piss and toilet tissue, but...), to the point I'd almost rather go up or down a flight of stairs to avoid dealing with it. My choices seem to be:
1. Suck it up and flush/clean if I happen to be the next person
2. Pick another floor to do my thing
3. Find some way to get a change in behavior
Opinions?
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If it's brown, flush it down.
To be clear, he does leave a mess, with piss and toilet tissue over the seat.
Personally, as long as it's not TOO disgusting or messy, I would just flush and carry on your business.
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He's pissing all over the toilet seat, or he's using the tissue as a "toilet seat guard" to avoid having to sit directly on the seat and just not flushing? I'm confused.
Near as I can tell, he walks into the stall, takes a piss, grabs some tissue, does his thing, then tosses it at the toilet. If the seat happened to be up, fine. If it happened to be down when he started, he doesn't bother lifting it, and wherever stuff lands, he leaves it.
Sorry, yes, it isn't just the unflushed part that gets to me.
Ok, you need to be A LOT clearer in your OP then.
Yeah, that's kinda gross, but are you using the stalls? Is it something you can smell? Just ignore it and let the janitors take care of it. You're getting way too involved in this.
Personally speaking the few times I've caught some SOB doing this I call them on it. Not loudly, no meanly, not in a public fashion but a polite pull aside and comment. "Look I don't like bringing up issues like this, but you seriously need to be more considerate of others when using the bathroom."
In most cases is works. In the one case I had where it didn't I referred the issue directly to HR since that it can be a health hazard and its a misuse of company property.
I do my #2's like clockwork every morning at home before school/work to avoid such issues. God bless being regular.
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option B
Anonymously hang up a mocking/scathing poster in the stall on how to not be a fucking barbarian.
This happens a lot where I work... and we find that it tends to police itself out over time... it just takes one or two people to make some public comments about it until the perpetrator overhears it and realizes he is doing something wrong.
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Put this in poster form with a drawing of someone pressing the flush button too
Get better ideas.
When you brainstormed your ideas you didn't think about talking to the person who is actually causing this issue? We all know confrontation isn't super fun but that shit works.
If you have a problem with that dude just talk to him.
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We had a guy at my old job who would, every day, clog a toilet with shit and toilet paper. Every. Fucking. Day. Every time you went into a stall there was a 25% chance you'd cop a face full of shit.
A few people knew who was doing it. They went to management. Management said they were aware of the problem, but couldn't do anything about it, because the person in question had a 'health problem'. Not sure what kind of health problem requires an entire roll of toilet paper and avoidance of all toilet brushes, but apparently he had it.
Go to HR first. Avoid direct confrontation because it can seriously blow up in your face in a large company.
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Do this. I used to think that people were generally nice and responsible about themselves and the people around them. Then I started working in a corporate environment and met people that would do things like piss all over a restroom because they were mad at their spouse or were angry at the IT department or any number of petty motivations.
If you get the HR department involved then you'll have the company breathing down his neck and maintain your anonymity. If you just confront the guy then he's likely to either laugh in your face or lose his cool and stage a meltdown/go passive aggressive and key your car. He'll still piss all over the restroom despite you confronting him about it. Dealing with difficult people is par for the course in any HR department; I say make them aware of it, let them handle it, and keep your head down.
This kind of thing is part of the reason HR departments even exist.
This isn't your fucking girlfriend.
It's essentially a stranger.
Large multicultural environments + confronting strangers about sensitive subjects in a direct manner = YOU ARE FIRED.
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it has nothing to do with size.
ANY size company this is insane, unrealistic advice
just imagine your boss asking you to please wipe your ass better out of nowhere. OK.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
hurrr
also, this is definitely worth making a fuss about. using the bathroom is not an optional thing, its not something you can ignore, and piss all over a seat that you have to sit down on is not something anyone should have to endure
I'm assuming there are multiple stalls. That and he said there are other bathrooms.
I myself think this is really gross because, you know, it makes the bathrooms stink, it leaves a mess for the person behind you . . . I don't understand how some people are raised with such poor etiquette and it's embarrassing that it would take a stranger's action for anyone to learn it. But don't talk to the guy, go through HR.
its like the people who don't wash their hands when they go to the toilet. I just found out the other week that my boss doesn't. How many times have I shaken his hand before now?!?!
I like to think of myself as fairly cosmopolitan. I've pissed in some strange places. I've never been to a place where there was a cultural norm of pissing all over the seat and throwing toilet paper on it.
Off hand I'd say this guy has some sort of horrible issue where his barrel isn't rifled normally and he can't go straight. Piercing, circumcision scar, sad, tiny weiner. Something that's probably its own punishment.
If you cant piss in a urinal in the same room? You're too uptight. But I don't blame you for wanting the facility clean.
Who I feel a little sorry for is your janitor, who probably wants to murder the guy.
I personally hate those stupid little notes but I gotta say sometimes they help. This sort of minor bullshit is the reason anonymous boxes exist.
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is it correct, or rather, will it result in a face punching, if you ask them to please change their behavior while their pants is dropped.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
serious question: Is there a culture where men who don't know each other already are allowed to talk in the bathroom? This has always seemed like a total taboo to me.
I host a podcast about movies.
we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
Er, that kind of facility in a men's bathroom is pretty common.
It still doesn't mean you talk.
The only time speaking to another man in the bathroom is appropriate is when one of you is on the way out and the other is on the way in, or you're both washing your hands after going. At no time when either one or both of you is actually taking a crap or a whizz should any spoken words be uttered.
And i don't think anyone was advocating speaking to this guy while he's actually in the bathroom.
At least do some fact finding first to see who you are up against before you take any action.
Erm. No.
Might as well poop on his desk.
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