[NIER] - The words tell you to purchase Frankenstein's game.

cj iwakura

Same here. If this is a bad first impression, then I must be in for a treat later.


The village music is beautiful.

l337CrappyJack

Descendant X wrote: »

Boy...

um...

That's, uh, quite the beginning when you first fire up the game, isn't it?

I wasn't expecting to be cursed at first time out of the gate.

I'm liking it so far though.

"Pull your head out of your goddamn ass and PRESS START TO BEGIN PLAYING."

Rent

cj iwakura wrote: »

Same here. If this is a bad first impression, then I must be in for a treat later.


The village music is beautiful.

I didn't mean the cursologue, which is fucking awesome

I mean the "let's fight one gajillion enemies at you with no rest whatsoever, oh then after let's have a million lame shitty sidequests open up"

Rust

Rent wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Same here. If this is a bad first impression, then I must be in for a treat later.


The village music is beautiful.

I didn't mean the cursologue, which is fucking awesome

I mean the "let's fight one gajillion enemies at you with no rest whatsoever, oh then after let's have a million lame shitty sidequests open up"

it's almost cruel how there are some real gems mixed in with all the busywork quests

the Lighthouse Woman series in particular

Rent

Also I'm pre-emptively calling LPing this game

you heard it here first, folks

cj iwakura

Bad Rent. Give people reason to buy it.

vagrant_winds

Man, it's refreshing how simple and easy the fishing in here is compared to other annoying fishing minigames (Persona 4 for example). I'm finding doing the fishing quests while listening to music kinda... relaxing.

cj iwakura wrote: »

Fine, I caved in.


I'll start it after RE5. Which is almost done!

You need to help me beat that.

Rent

vagrant_winds wrote: »

Man, it's refreshing how simple and easy the fishing in here is compared to other annoying fishing minigames (Persona 4 for example). I'm finding doing the fishing quests while listening to music kinda... relaxing.

AHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHA


AHAHA

Hooo


Oh that is a good joke you have made vagrant_winds

Kaseius

no, it's super easy and simple especially as you get higher in level, man was it easy

you'd have to be some kind of an idiot to find it hard or anything

Gilder

The thing that makes the fishing hard is that personally I like having the camera directly behind me. That way I'm sure if it's pulling to the left or right. The problem though is that the rod is so thin that when the camera is straight behind you it practically disappears. It just becomes very thing rectangles that somehow manage to also have jaggies.

Rent

Gilder wrote: »

The thing that makes the fishing hard is that personally I like having the camera directly behind me. That way I'm sure if it's pulling to the left or right. The problem though is that the rod is so thin that when the camera is straight behind you it practically disappears. It just becomes very thing rectangles that somehow manage to also have jaggies.

This, and also I'm on level 8 of that stupid fucking fisherman quest and catching those goddamn swordfish or whatever the fuck is not fucking easy

vagrant_winds

Rent wrote: »

vagrant_winds wrote: »

Man, it's refreshing how simple and easy the fishing in here is compared to other annoying fishing minigames (Persona 4 for example). I'm finding doing the fishing quests while listening to music kinda... relaxing.

AHAHAHAHAHA

AHAHAHAHAHA


AHAHA

Hooo


Oh that is a good joke you have made vagrant_winds

o_O

Fishing has been a piece o' cake for the first three Fisherman's Gambit quests so far.

Black_Heart

I really enjoyed NIER a lot, great characters, setting, music, story, but the game's main weakness is content recycling. Its like they tried to stretch a 12 hour RPG out into 30+ hours. The game tries to do too much and ultimately falls short.

I'm a big fan of Cavia and was super sad to hear they shut down. Hopefully their team members will get absorbed into other teams and produce something good again someday.

Mattakuevan

Rent wrote: »

Gilder wrote: »

The thing that makes the fishing hard is that personally I like having the camera directly behind me. That way I'm sure if it's pulling to the left or right. The problem though is that the rod is so thin that when the camera is straight behind you it practically disappears. It just becomes very thing rectangles that somehow manage to also have jaggies.

This, and also I'm on level 8 of that stupid fucking fisherman quest and catching those goddamn swordfish or whatever the fuck is not fucking easy

I honestly never had any real issue with the fishing in Neir, probably because I did fishing in FFXI which was very similar.

If you're bitching about 8 being difficult, it gets worse btw.

Rust

Mattakuevan wrote: »

Rent wrote: »

Gilder wrote: »

The thing that makes the fishing hard is that personally I like having the camera directly behind me. That way I'm sure if it's pulling to the left or right. The problem though is that the rod is so thin that when the camera is straight behind you it practically disappears. It just becomes very thing rectangles that somehow manage to also have jaggies.

This, and also I'm on level 8 of that stupid fucking fisherman quest and catching those goddamn swordfish or whatever the fuck is not fucking easy

I honestly never had any real issue with the fishing in Neir, probably because I did fishing in FFXI which was very similar.

If you're bitching about 8 being difficult, it gets worse btw.

not really

if you know the bait and you know the spot, it tops out around part 8

also if you play FFXI you're probably immune to tedium anyway so

Mattakuevan

Rust wrote: »

Mattakuevan wrote: »

Rent wrote: »

Gilder wrote: »

The thing that makes the fishing hard is that personally I like having the camera directly behind me. That way I'm sure if it's pulling to the left or right. The problem though is that the rod is so thin that when the camera is straight behind you it practically disappears. It just becomes very thing rectangles that somehow manage to also have jaggies.

This, and also I'm on level 8 of that stupid fucking fisherman quest and catching those goddamn swordfish or whatever the fuck is not fucking easy

I honestly never had any real issue with the fishing in Neir, probably because I did fishing in FFXI which was very similar.

If you're bitching about 8 being difficult, it gets worse btw.

not really

if you know the bait and you know the spot, it tops out around part 8

also if you play FFXI you're probably immune to tedium anyway so

Well yes, I was just trying to put it into perspective for Rent. But yeah, my perspective is a bit jaded.

Rent

ugh so I just finished up all the endings to drakenguard, ending E is the most insane bullshit I've ever seen

still seeing no way any of the endings could feasibly be the prologue to Nier

cj iwakura

Look closely at the state of the world during ending e.

Rent

oh is that ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Kainy

There's a lot of information not mentioned in either game about how one leads to the other.

There are links in this very thread, hidden, waiting.

Gilder

You can sort of put it together, and by that I mean whatever you're thinking is probably completely wrong, but they purposefully left out a bunch of stuff connecting the two games because they felt it wasn't important. They just wanted to focus on Nier and the others and not so much the backstory. The connection to Drakengard becomes clear when you finish the game and start reading Grimoire Nier. If you also talk to people and do their quests you'll see a few connections here and there.

Rust

you're basically given all you need to figure it out in the DLC

but giving you the specifics would also be big spoilers about nier's world, at least until you've gotten the A ending

Gilder

Hey guys, starting Sunday K-mart is price dropping Nier to $20. So anyone undecided should go buy it sometime starting Sunday. It's going to be $20 for the foreseeable future.

Rent

I should be pissed that I spent 40 bucks on this a couple of weeks ago

but you know

I'm 0k with that

cj iwakura

And I just spent $35 on it yesterday. But ah well.

MonkeyDLuffy

Just got this today via GameFly. It's been pretty great so far. Got a few questions, though: where can I reliably find

titanium alloy, rusty kitchen knives, and complex machines?

I just cleared the

Junk Heap

and I'm itching to do some weapon upgrading.

Rent

Junk Heap

MonkeyDLuffy

Rent wrote: »

Junk Heap

Okay, but is there anything specific I need to do, like focus on a certain type of enemy, or should I just go in and kill things until what I want drops?

Rust

MonkeyDLuffy wrote: »

Rent wrote: »

Junk Heap

Okay, but is there anything specific I need to do, like focus on a certain type of enemy, or should I just go in and kill things until what I want drops?

titanium alloy is dropped by the red-light robots

rusty kitchen knives are dropped by the tiny sword-wielding shades

complex machines are dropped by the gigantic shade on the path to seafront

all three parts are ridiculously fucking rare, so don't give yourself a stroke trying to collect them

especially titanium alloy, because it's part of a cruel joke by the developers in that it becomes vastly more common after a certain point in the game, but then your weapons no longer need it

cj iwakura

I'm not fond of the fishing. Too hard to tell where the rod is going.

Also, I'm at the junk heap, and although I hear I'll have reason to HATE this place later,

the music is phenomenal.

I thought it was going to be generic industrial, and then the voice kicks in.

I don't think the game is bad at all. I have fun playing it, though I wish there was a lockon feature for enemies. The music is just mind-blowing.

Turkey

That's my favorite movie by far. In fact, I think exploring that area was when I realized the game was tailor-made for me.

Edit- After you finish the game, check out the interview with the singer. It's a great read.

Edit 2 - Also give a listen to Ashes of Dreams (the only song that's not in future-speak). The lyrics are spoilerific, but flesh out the backstory.

Skull2185

Nier should be waiting in my mailbox when I get home.

I'm excited.

cj iwakura

I want to read more of the black diary entries. I get a huge World War Z vibe from the excerpts.

Rust

cj iwakura wrote: »

I want to read more of the black diary entries. I get a huge World War Z vibe from the excerpts.

the Grimoire Noir entries were a slap in the face the first time i saw them, since they look so oppressive thanks to Yonah's letters

it didn't help that i had the game installed, so i was only able to catch a few words before the load screen faded out

cj iwakura

So I hear the PSN status updates for Nier are kind of like twitters.

It says your exact location with spoiler tags or something?

Rent

FYRA

Gilder

Anything that gave the game a reason to play Sacrifice I was in full support of. No matter how horrible it was.

cj iwakura

Does the music get better than Wretched Automatons? That's the bar right now.

Gilder

I think you still have Temple of Drifting Sands to hear, and that's one that a lot of people consider the best. It's really personal preference though, as I love The Incomplete Stone and that's the tower's music. That's not really a song that people love as much as the others though.

Rent

what's the one that's really really sad

i love that one

or the one that's the song devola sings whenever you enter the tavern