I have to say that I do enjoy the character of Caim in Drakengard. At least he's refreshingly honest about his bloodthirst compared to every other prettyboy protagonist in most japanese games.
This a thousand times. Caim is fucking delightful. Soon after he loses his ability to speak, he's just killed a group of soldiers that were closing in to abduct or kill his sister, which you did in gameplay, and when the cutscene for the story begins he's just standing over one of the soldiers' bodies, stabbing it over and over. Caim wants to murder things, really, really badly, and it's only by chance that he's fallen on the "good" side. About the only redeemable quality of his character is that he's super devoted to his sister. Other than that, he's just a refreshing berserker.
And she is really devoted to him
like a lot
in her pants
There really aren't any mentally sound people in Drakengard. About the the only living bieng Caim cares for by the end of the game is Angelus.
It's wherever you have to deliver the item, where everyone is hiding in the buildings. Like I said, I got frustrated there and gave up.
The book and killing sheep were the most amusing things to me. The story and characters were pretty good, but the game seemed to be doing its best to irritate me with that town and all the quests involving it.
It's been a while, but I also remember the map being pretty crappy and not helpful at all in the first few dungeons.
You should've given up on those horrible, horrible quests and just continued the story.
It's wherever you have to deliver the item, where everyone is hiding in the buildings. Like I said, I got frustrated there and gave up.
The book and killing sheep were the most amusing things to me. The story and characters were pretty good, but the game seemed to be doing its best to irritate me with that town and all the quests involving it.
It's been a while, but I also remember the map being pretty crappy and not helpful at all in the first few dungeons.
You should've given up on those horrible, horrible quests and just continued the story.
I'm surprised so many people hated the quests. I loved doing them. I only didn't do the ones that had the Pink Moonflowers and the Titanium Alloys since both just took too dang long.
Just did the Forest of Myth, the mansion...and...what comes NEXT.
Holy shit this game.
I chose to have Emil freeze Kaine, and I was kind of surprised how emotional it got. I have feeling from what I have read that THIS is the new "start point" when you do your multiple run throughs, so I made a new save file for it, so I could go back and see what happens if I dont freeze Kaine.
Man, I cant wait to see what happened in the 5 years that elapsed. How is Nier even still ALIVE, and what the hell happened to his eye!?
I can not wait to keep playing this.
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Just did the Forest of Myth, the mansion...and...what comes NEXT.
Holy shit this game.
I chose to have Emil freeze Kaine, and I was kind of surprised how emotional it got. I have feeling from what I have read that THIS is the new "start point" when you do your multiple run throughs, so I made a new save file for it, so I could go back and see what happens if I dont freeze Kaine.
Man, I cant wait to see what happened in the 5 years that elapsed. How is Nier even still ALIVE, and what the hell happened to his eye!?
I can not wait to keep playing this.
About that choice...
It's not a choice. You can't choose to do nothing and be annihilated - if you do, it asks you to choose again, though there are a couple of lines of dialogue about it.
Also, I kind of played it as real as it felt - meaning, once the Forest of Myth happened I left a lot of sidequests undone because I felt an urgency to get this stuff wrapped up.
Is there a penalty for not doing sidequests? I did a fair amount, but didn't do any of the fishing, or the merchant who wanted a billion things, and I never found that guy's son.
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Quests are 99% money (with like 1 or 2 that give weapons as rewards). However, many of the quests do have interesting stories that tie into each other and help flesh out the world. They're worth doing, but not worth getting worked up over.
Just did the Forest of Myth, the mansion...and...what comes NEXT.
Holy shit this game.
I chose to have Emil freeze Kaine, and I was kind of surprised how emotional it got. I have feeling from what I have read that THIS is the new "start point" when you do your multiple run throughs, so I made a new save file for it, so I could go back and see what happens if I dont freeze Kaine.
Man, I cant wait to see what happened in the 5 years that elapsed. How is Nier even still ALIVE, and what the hell happened to his eye!?
I can not wait to keep playing this.
About that choice...
It's not a choice. You can't choose to do nothing and be annihilated - if you do, it asks you to choose again, though there are a couple of lines of dialogue about it.
I froze there like a stunned mullet. I made the annihilation choice twice, completely based on emotion.
I'm consistently amazed at the depths of feeling this game can bring out in me. I don't really care that it's sad feelings a lot of the time. I'm just enjoying that my normal analytical approach to a game is being subverted and I'm getting pulled out of that standoffish demeanor and straight into the moment.
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Just did the Forest of Myth, the mansion...and...what comes NEXT.
Holy shit this game.
I chose to have Emil freeze Kaine, and I was kind of surprised how emotional it got. I have feeling from what I have read that THIS is the new "start point" when you do your multiple run throughs, so I made a new save file for it, so I could go back and see what happens if I dont freeze Kaine.
Man, I cant wait to see what happened in the 5 years that elapsed. How is Nier even still ALIVE, and what the hell happened to his eye!?
I can not wait to keep playing this.
About that choice...
It's not a choice. You can't choose to do nothing and be annihilated - if you do, it asks you to choose again, though there are a couple of lines of dialogue about it.
I froze there like a stunned mullet. I made the annihilation choice twice, completely based on emotion.
I'm consistently amazed at the depths of feeling this game can bring out in me. I don't really care that it's sad feelings a lot of the time. I'm just enjoying that my normal analytical approach to a game is being subverted and I'm getting pulled out of that standoffish demeanor and straight into the moment.
More about why I did what I did:
I chose to sacrifice her because I really don't feel that much of a connection to her at the moment, to be honest. She's done nothing really than kind of go away and come back at the last second to save the day. I feel AWFUL for her, based on what she's said - but I would have no idea at all about her hermaphrodite problem if it wasn't for the press and you guys talking about it openly. As of now, I just know she's been changed by shades, and she's part shade.
I also have no idea what she whispered to Emil, so making the choice for Emil was a little disconnecting.
It was still a sad choice, but as of right now I don't feel that connected to her, so it was an easy one. She's begged for death the entire game, and I finally had the chance to give that to her - and have it mean something.
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Man, I can not get myself psyched about these sidequests. everything everyone wants somehow always boils down to looking for random materials. On my 2nd and 3rd playthroughs, will what I have carry over? That was I can just kind of grind along as I go, and EVENTUALLY end up with enough?
Also, question about what I just saw...second half of the game...1st playthrough...
At some point will I get a LITTLE more detail on what the hell just happened to Emil?
Turns out he's like 1000 years old and a weapon. Then we find his freaky sister.
Then his sister EATS HIM, and I kill her, and she turns into some sort of Vortex. Then I walk through the vortex and now...
...Emil is a smaller version of his sister? What happened to the sister? Why did he transform? Will this be explained more later on, in subsequent playthroughs?
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I just got the game recently, and I've been enjoying it. Though I've decided that fishing is dumb and I hate it and I just flat out cannot find where I'm supposed to go in the Junk Yard.
That is exactly where I was stuck. I found it before I noticed your post, but thanks all the same. On the bright side, I got like30,000 gold off of selling all the broken robot parts I'd found while being lost.
I got a laugh at the Junk Heap boss turning out to be Andros from Star Fox, too.
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He's really good because I'm really good at noticing the similarities in peoples voices. For Liam Obrian, I picked up War straight after playing Basara, noticed Weiss after he said something that had the same distinctive twang.
I had no ideas about the voice actor of Nier playing Elvis. None at all. The voices are so different.
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Wow, I can't believe I didn't recognize him! I picked up his voice as Dr. Stahngahn from the third Prof. Layton game - my mind instantly snapped to Lezard Valeth (although his time-travel shenanigans didn't make it hard to notice).
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I picked up the phoenix spear and upgraded it once on my second playthrough. I see what you guys are talking about.
Still, I'm so strong atm that choice of weapon doesn't mean that much. And it's annoying as all hell to hit those tiny critters with the spear. None of the spear attacks have any tracking at all.
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Liam O'brian is the best voice actor for the "Intelligent" Badass type of role, period.
Lezard was my favorite along with Weiss here, but he also did good work in .hack and Persona 3, among others.
Also, that Lezard video doesn't have my favorite of his 2nd fight openings
"I only wanted to be united with her.... That is all I wanted... That is all i asked for.... Is this the end? YOU. SHALL. PAY."
Beat the game just now. I must say, I really liked it. Some thoughts on the ending. Or first ending, I guess.
Not feeling the Kingdom Hearts vibe I got from the revelation of what the Shades really are. I already kinda thought the smaller Shades looked like the Shadow Heartless with some yellow. It didn't ruin the game for me or anything, it's just that instead of feeling like a big revelation I was just like "Oh. Ok, then." And I'd seen the Popola/Devola turning out to be evil thing from a mile away, though I wa still sad to have to kill them. One thing that I should have seen coming but didn't is that the Shadow King was Nier. Like, even when the twins basically tell you he is I still didn't put two and two together.
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Beat the game just now. I must say, I really liked it. Some thoughts on the ending. Or first ending, I guess.
Not feeling the Kingdom Hearts vibe I got from the revelation of what the Shades really are. I already kinda thought the smaller Shades looked like the Shadow Heartless with some yellow. It didn't ruin the game for me or anything, it's just that instead of feeling like a big revelation I was just like "Oh. Ok, then." And I'd seen the Popola/Devola turning out to be evil thing from a mile away, though I wa still sad to have to kill them. One thing that I should have seen coming but didn't is that the Shadow King was Nier. Like, even when the twins basically tell you he is I still didn't put two and two together.
Popola/Devola aren't evil
if anything they're good and you (the main character) are evil
Beat the game just now. I must say, I really liked it. Some thoughts on the ending. Or first ending, I guess.
Not feeling the Kingdom Hearts vibe I got from the revelation of what the Shades really are. I already kinda thought the smaller Shades looked like the Shadow Heartless with some yellow. It didn't ruin the game for me or anything, it's just that instead of feeling like a big revelation I was just like "Oh. Ok, then." And I'd seen the Popola/Devola turning out to be evil thing from a mile away, though I wa still sad to have to kill them. One thing that I should have seen coming but didn't is that the Shadow King was Nier. Like, even when the twins basically tell you he is I still didn't put two and two together.
Somebody needs to play the NG+ immediately, and that someone is you.
So is there any rhyme or reason whatsoever to what the robots drop?
I just stacked up a bunch of quests for the junk heap, since I knew I had to head back there anyways. I get there for the second time, become SUPER depressed, and then head in, figuring I can take care of the main storyline quest AND the 2 or 3 sidequests that all need robot parts in one go.
And now I have 19773754902 broken cables, and nothing useful whatsoever. I just ran it a SECOND time (I usually go first floor straight to elevator -> basement 2 -> long tram ride shit -> giant robot -> staircase -> outside), and once again came back with maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 parts I needed for ONE of the sidequests.
Is there any specific areas to target or places to go so I actually can get something USEFUL, or is this just grinding at its absolute worst?
I have the phoenix spear and love smashing robots, and dont mind that if they dropped stuff five times a trip, I'd need to run it like 5 times to get everything for everyone. But dropping things ONCE, if even THAT, is stupid and I will just call these sidequests off.
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playing the game on harder difficulties makes items drop more frequently
Can you change difficulties on the fly? Can I bump it up to hard for a couple Junk Heap runs, and then bring it back to normal for the rest of the game?
and if not, do items transfer over into the NG+? So I can ignore it for now, and finish the quests up on the next run?
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Can you change difficulties on the fly? Can I bump it up to hard for a couple Junk Heap runs, and then bring it back to normal for the rest of the game?
and if not, do items transfer over into the NG+? So I can ignore it for now, and finish the quests up on the next run?
yes, you can change difficulties in the title menu
Oh, neat. Are you doing video or screenshot? Either way I'm gonna follow it. With yours, Id's and having just beat the game I think I may burn myself out on the game before I even get back to do the other endings.
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And she is really devoted to him
like a lot
There really aren't any mentally sound people in Drakengard. About the the only living bieng Caim cares for by the end of the game is Angelus.
You should've given up on those horrible, horrible quests and just continued the story.
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I'm surprised so many people hated the quests. I loved doing them. I only didn't do the ones that had the Pink Moonflowers and the Titanium Alloys since both just took too dang long.
Unfortunately I have to go pick up some food - and I decided not to even start that way until I can just sit and devote a couple hours to it.
You all have built me up so much for this section, I'm really excited.
We're the monsters...
Holy shit this game.
Man, I cant wait to see what happened in the 5 years that elapsed. How is Nier even still ALIVE, and what the hell happened to his eye!?
I can not wait to keep playing this.
About that choice...
Also, I kind of played it as real as it felt - meaning, once the Forest of Myth happened I left a lot of sidequests undone because I felt an urgency to get this stuff wrapped up.
Is there a penalty for not doing sidequests? I did a fair amount, but didn't do any of the fishing, or the merchant who wanted a billion things, and I never found that guy's son.
We'll see if it changes.
I'm consistently amazed at the depths of feeling this game can bring out in me. I don't really care that it's sad feelings a lot of the time. I'm just enjoying that my normal analytical approach to a game is being subverted and I'm getting pulled out of that standoffish demeanor and straight into the moment.
More about why I did what I did:
I also have no idea what she whispered to Emil, so making the choice for Emil was a little disconnecting.
It was still a sad choice, but as of right now I don't feel that connected to her, so it was an easy one. She's begged for death the entire game, and I finally had the chance to give that to her - and have it mean something.
Also, question about what I just saw...second half of the game...1st playthrough...
Turns out he's like 1000 years old and a weapon. Then we find his freaky sister.
Then his sister EATS HIM, and I kill her, and she turns into some sort of Vortex. Then I walk through the vortex and now...
...Emil is a smaller version of his sister? What happened to the sister? Why did he transform? Will this be explained more later on, in subsequent playthroughs?
It makes for a really good read after you've beaten the game absolutely.
The elevator you're looking for is right near the entrance, when the hallway opens into the first room. It's the door on the right.
Probably.
Man I was stuck for hours just constantly overlooking that.
Jamieson Price, the english VA for nier.
Was also Elvis in Godhand.
He was also Tager in Blazblue.
I had no ideas about the voice actor of Nier playing Elvis. None at all. The voices are so different.
But that guy is one of my favorite VAs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z50feD9SPi0&NR=1
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Still, I'm so strong atm that choice of weapon doesn't mean that much. And it's annoying as all hell to hit those tiny critters with the spear. None of the spear attacks have any tracking at all.
Liam O'brian is the best voice actor for the "Intelligent" Badass type of role, period.
Lezard was my favorite along with Weiss here, but he also did good work in .hack and Persona 3, among others.
Also, that Lezard video doesn't have my favorite of his 2nd fight openings
"I only wanted to be united with her.... That is all I wanted... That is all i asked for.... Is this the end?
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this kinda sucks for me because I'm gonna start an LP of Nier on saturday
but on the other hand new dark id lp! yaaaaaaaaaaaay
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if anything they're good and you (the main character) are evil
Somebody needs to play the NG+ immediately, and that someone is you.
I just stacked up a bunch of quests for the junk heap, since I knew I had to head back there anyways. I get there for the second time, become SUPER depressed, and then head in, figuring I can take care of the main storyline quest AND the 2 or 3 sidequests that all need robot parts in one go.
And now I have 19773754902 broken cables, and nothing useful whatsoever. I just ran it a SECOND time (I usually go first floor straight to elevator -> basement 2 -> long tram ride shit -> giant robot -> staircase -> outside), and once again came back with maybe 1 or 2 out of 10 parts I needed for ONE of the sidequests.
Is there any specific areas to target or places to go so I actually can get something USEFUL, or is this just grinding at its absolute worst?
I have the phoenix spear and love smashing robots, and dont mind that if they dropped stuff five times a trip, I'd need to run it like 5 times to get everything for everyone. But dropping things ONCE, if even THAT, is stupid and I will just call these sidequests off.
and if not, do items transfer over into the NG+? So I can ignore it for now, and finish the quests up on the next run?
yes, you can change difficulties in the title menu
yes, items transfer over in NG+
thanks! i'm gonna start lping it tomorra so yeah!
I plan to after I start and finish Resonance of Fate.
Oh, neat. Are you doing video or screenshot? Either way I'm gonna follow it. With yours, Id's and having just beat the game I think I may burn myself out on the game before I even get back to do the other endings.