Mostlyjoe13Evil, Evil, Jump for joy!Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
Ugh. I wish there was a better way to gauge a foe walking around. There is a fine difference between "I can take this" to "this will wreck me". Sometimes I plunge in with no/clue and get my ass handed to me. Thank god for the Continue option.
Ugh. I wish there was a better way to gauge a foe walking around. There is a fine difference between "I can take this" to "this will wreck me". Sometimes I plunge in with no/clue and get my ass handed to me. Thank god for the Continue option.
Dont worry. The game is insanely easy and that will not happen for long. Im level 49 and everything dies in around one hit. Even Giant Shades. I dont know about bosses because Ive been farmign so long i havent fought one in a while. But....still...I wish to see how level 99 will be. Itll just take too damn long and I dont think Ill have the patience.
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Mostlyjoe13Evil, Evil, Jump for joy!Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
Oh, okay then. Just focus on the main missions and I should be able to insto kill everything else? Btw, where is the best place to find more titanium? Do I just keep going back to the Junk Heap? I've got like 99 broken circut boards, but little else.
Oh, okay then. Just focus on the main missions and I should be able to insto kill everything else? Btw, where is the best place to find more titanium? Do I just keep going back to the Junk Heap? I've got like 99 broken circut boards, but little else.
Titanium is best found in part 2 of the game, in the Junk Heap. There are enemies that only drop Titanium Alloy or Memory Alloy.
Also don't worry about upgrading weapons too much, once you have the Phoenix spear, nothing will ever be hard again, and you just buy the damn thing from Facade in part 2. It doesn't even need to be maxed to be gross.
Speaking of Titanium, do quests in part 2 ever go away, or can I do them whenever I wish? Because a bunch of these ones right at the start of part 2 require titanium alloy and such and there's no way I'm going to kill the few red light robots that spawn in the junkyard for hours to get 10+ of an item that has what feels like a 5% drop rate. This game really has some awful quests. Couldn't they have only made like 8 that require rare items? It seems like 80% of the quests consist of gathering not one, not two, but 5+ of some really hard to get item.
Speaking of Titanium, do quests in part 2 ever go away, or can I do them whenever I wish? Because a bunch of these ones right at the start of part 2 require titanium alloy and such and there's no way I'm going to kill the few red light robots that spawn in the junkyard for hours to get 10+ of an item that has what feels like a 5% drop rate.
You can do them whenever you want, and they're available to do in NG+ as well; just don't leave quests half finished if you're doing the latter option because you lose any progress you put into them between playthroughs and will have to start over (like, say, giving the needed items but not talking to someone after to finish it).
Also red light robots is not the best spot for Titanium; generally you want to hit up the big mid-boss robots because they'll always drop either titanium or memory alloy (and you'll need both). Or, you can hit up the last third of the DLC dungeon since you'll find a few of them in crates there as well. Drops from the red bots is more like a pleasant bonus.
Yeah that's why I wanted to wait on the quests, because I don't think I'm far enough into part 2 yet for the bigger robots. I only just got to part 2 and took some quests, realized they wanted alloy, and said fuck it I'll wait until I meet the enemies that always drop them. I'll go ahead and do the quests I know I can do (Like gathering logs and ore) and just proceed with the game while I wait for the others to become easier.
In the third door of the DLC, where it's in the underground lab, and you go across the walkway with tons of boxes
I just got an Eagle Egg from one of the boxes
Holy shit
Oh you didnt know that? Yes. The walkway with tons of boxes has one egg. It CAN drop. Not always. But it can. I think it beats running in and out of the Arie myself. Only thing that sucks is if you dont get it thats 30 minutes wasted.
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Well if you haven't gotten the other mats that drop from the bridge, that makes it less of a waste.
If eagle eggs are all you need, then Aerie farming is probably faster.
Oi. Indeed my friend. Its well worth it. Plus i need the 1 million moneys achievement so I need to make runs of that DLC anyways. The Eagle Egg thing is a very nice thing though. Those arnt my problem though. Those fucking Subdued Bracelets are horrendous! I finally got ONE last night. Ive farmed them for the past 3 nights. I still need 2 more. *sigh* just 3 weapons left to upgrade. YOU CANT FUCKING STOP ME NIER!
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
Planting a full field of lunar tears takes about 3 minutes, clock advance, and you get 75k from selling them.
After the 770k you get from doing all the quests, it doesn't take much time at all to Lunar Tear your way to victory.
I got 3 eagle eggs yesterday. I was taking care of fucking business
I was unaware of this. I uh...I had small monies because I always bought everything. But I cheaped the achievement out anyways. I did the DLC for Eagle eggs and got money on the side. When I got 300k I just saved my game, sold everything I had for 700k, got 1 mil, reloaded. Bam. But on a side note I need just one more Eagle egg.
Also.
Fuck Subdued Bracelets.
Again
Oh and very fucking nice. 3 Eagle eggs is pretty much pimpin'. I got one from 4 runs today and then stopped. The Bracelets were just making me so mad I decided to stop for now and go back later.
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I think this game is designed to never give you what you need. Like today I just needed Iron Ore. Not even a rare thing and I only needed one so I refused to buy it if I even could. It took me like 30 minutes to get, because I just got a ton of gold and silver ore.
Well getting a ton of gold/silver ore isn't a bad thing. You need 121 silver ore to upgrade everything to max, which is nearly as many as iron (163).
Honestly, my advice is to just system clock lunar tears and money away everything buyable, since the items that must be farmed can be so very, very hateful to farm.
Got 5 black pearls in one sitting today, so I'm still slowly but surely making progress.
Where are you farming for subdued bracelets, mastrius?
I really wish that room where you fight like 10-15 of the flying shades that drop those wasn't after the point of no return. I've gotten I think one or two of them, but they're pretty frequently mentioned as one of the worst items to farm.
On the bright side I'm over 75% word completion now. I wonder if I'll hit 100% by the time I finish farming all the shade-dropped mats
Well getting a ton of gold/silver ore isn't a bad thing. You need 121 silver ore to upgrade everything to max, which is nearly as many as iron (163).
Honestly, my advice is to just system clock lunar tears and money away everything buyable, since the items that must be farmed can be so very, very hateful to farm.
Got 5 black pearls in one sitting today, so I'm still slowly but surely making progress.
Where are you farming for subdued bracelets, mastrius?
I really wish that room where you fight like 10-15 of the flying shades that drop those wasn't after the point of no return. I've gotten I think one or two of them, but they're pretty frequently mentioned as one of the worst items to farm.
On the bright side I'm over 75% word completion now. I wonder if I'll hit 100% by the time I finish farming all the shade-dropped mats
The desert of hellishness. 3 flying shades each run. Its just SUCH a low chance to drop that it gets horribly annoying fast.
In that room of no return is there a save point nearby? Maybe just reload? I forget.
And damn 75. Thats a good amount. I dont really get any words anymore.
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I usually get words when I'm killing the hordes of shades in the final area. I've cleared the game like 7 times now, usually showing some other people the ending and such.
Between the final save point, which is outside the area of no return, and the area with a bunch of flying shades is like... at least one boss fight and a bunch of rooms and that annoying talking bird puzzle that takes too long. I don't think it'd be faster to farm them that way, especially since, if you get a bracelet, you have to do the entire second half again to get to where you can attempt that area once more.
I usually get words when I'm killing the hordes of shades in the final area. I've cleared the game like 7 times now, usually showing some other people the ending and such.
Between the final save point, which is outside the area of no return, and the area with a bunch of flying shades is like... at least one boss fight and a bunch of rooms and that annoying talking bird puzzle that takes too long. I don't think it'd be faster to farm them that way, especially since, if you get a bracelet, you have to do the entire second half again to get to where you can attempt that area once more.
Oh yeah I didnt even think about that
Its just a pain in the ass to do. I got my final Eagle Egg earlier and now I need 4 more Black Pearls and then I have just 2 weapons left. One needs the Subdued Bracelet and its done and the other needs a Subdued Bracelet to get to level 3. Ugh. Man. Pain in the arse!
And yeah Ill bet that final area has a bunch of words Im missing. I didnt spend much time there. Still havent.
Also fuck that bird puzzle. So easy but I hate sitting through the scene >.>
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Any word can drop from any shade, so long as you're far enough in the game, AFAIK.
I mean, I've gotten 2% knockback resist words from enemies in the area immediately before the last boss. The reason I say I get a lot of words there is because when speed-running the second half of the game to show people the ending, I skip killing anything but bosses, basically.
Any word can drop from any shade, so long as you're far enough in the game, AFAIK.
I mean, I've gotten 2% knockback resist words from enemies in the area immediately before the last boss. The reason I say I get a lot of words there is because when speed-running the second half of the game to show people the ending, I skip killing anything but bosses, basically.
I see. Well Ive killed ass-tons of enemies and rarely get words. Of course recently its just been flying shades and picking items up off the ground or DLC runs where words dont even drop so...
But hey good news! 2 weapons left! Im rather pumped but itll have to wait until later tonight before bracelet hunting. I have some Alan Wake to play. Still though. Just 2 left. I can do this.
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I'm currently doing barren temple runs, since I need a boatload of pyrite.
Found out that flying shades don't appear in the desert until you're about to/have fought Roc. So pretty soon I'll have to go advance the story some.
Ugh Pyrite. that annoyed me so much. My advice to you is only go in as far as the beginning to search for sparklies because its much faster. Only go as far as until you reach the doorway to that sidescrolling platform thing with the cubes and the sand. Its just time consuming. This way you can run in, look inside both rooms, see if theres a sparkly, look at that rubble, see if theres one, then walk out. Way less than a minute in time and sometimes all 3 sparkling points will be there. It just works better.
And yeah the flyers arnt there til endgame pretty much.
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Does going from the area inside the Lost Shrine to the upper walkway respawn the dudes inside fully?
I imagine that'll be where I need to farm what machines I'm missing, as well as some broken wristwatches.
I wish I had a complete record of what mats I've used in upgrades already, because operating only off of how many mats I need total might cause me to overfarm some of the rare items and that would be... awful.
Edit: Where did you find to be the best place/lure for fishing up rusted clumps? I need a bunch more and am not having the greatest luck with them. I'm perfectly happy to persistence through it if they can't be regularly gotten by any lure, but if there's a faster way I'd love to know so I can get down to the really ugly farming.
Does going from the area inside the Lost Shrine to the upper walkway respawn the dudes inside fully?
I imagine that'll be where I need to farm what machines I'm missing, as well as some broken wristwatches.
I wish I had a complete record of what mats I've used in upgrades already, because operating only off of how many mats I need total might cause me to overfarm some of the rare items and that would be... awful.
Edit: Where did you find to be the best place/lure for fishing up rusted clumps? I need a bunch more and am not having the greatest luck with them. I'm perfectly happy to persistence through it if they can't be regularly gotten by any lure, but if there's a faster way I'd love to know so I can get down to the really ugly farming.
Sorry I havent responded. Had to go to work. Short day though! Anyways.
For Machine farming do this. Go inside the shrine from the bottom. Run up the stairs and go through the side rooms to the first Giant guy. Kill his face off. Then jump right down through the center to the bottom floor and zone out then go back in and repeat. Its really fast if you avoid all enemies and just straight on rush to the boss. Plus Im sure you're strong enough to one-hit-kill him by this point so you should be fine. It only takes maybe 60 seconds per run or so. Works great.
For Broken Wristwatches wait until its morning time and go outside into the Southern Plains. That area is full of Armored hammer guys who drop the watches (and sometimes a giant shade spawns with Machine chance but its insanely low compared to the one in the Lost Shrine). Well I think its morning. Sunny. Or...whatever it is. You'll know because itll just be full of those dudes. Just run up the hill there, kill the 7 or 8 that are there, zone out, go back in, repeat. Dont go through the whole area because its a time suck.
As far as Rusted Clumps go I never had a problem with them for some reason. But from what I remember earlier DLC runs seem to be the most efficient way to grab them. Plus some toher things you may need. (Pyrite is also there if you didnt get it all already) but the DLC 3rd area run seems a nice place for Clumps. However I will say I got a boatload of the clumps in the Desert fishing with.....Whatever the thing was you needed to catch the Legendary fish there maybe?
Oh! And I dont know if you are or not, but do not, I repeat do not use the extra % chance of Item drops. That fucks you in many ways and actually makes your chance of rarer items dropping less.
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Turned out I had plenty of clumps, probably from all the DLC runs I did, ha.
Right now my main barrier is forlorn necklaces. I have none, somehow, even though I've killed legions of shades. They drop off the shades that do a little dance and then either spray shots out or buff their allies, who appear in the Lost Shrine at the end of the game, right? I just killed them over and over for about 45 minutes without seeing a single forlorn necklace. Shitloads of recovery potions, yes, but not one forlorn necklace.
One subdued bracelet left, all the forlorn necklaces, a couple stopped clocks, and then the remaining items are really easy.
What determines the time of day in-game? I've never figured that one out. It's always seemed totally random to me.
Turned out I had plenty of clumps, probably from all the DLC runs I did, ha.
Right now my main barrier is forlorn necklaces. I have none, somehow, even though I've killed legions of shades. They drop off the shades that do a little dance and then either spray shots out or buff their allies, who appear in the Lost Shrine at the end of the game, right? I just killed them over and over for about 45 minutes without seeing a single forlorn necklace. Shitloads of recovery potions, yes, but not one forlorn necklace.
One subdued bracelet left, all the forlorn necklaces, a couple stopped clocks, and then the remaining items are really easy.
What determines the time of day in-game? I've never figured that one out. It's always seemed totally random to me.
Haha yeah I figured. The clumps are easy enough and I was like you too. My friend was like "Dude you need so many Rusted Clumps to upgrade things. Get them now. Dont be mad when you catch one." So I was freaking out at that point. Forgot about them the next day and then never thought about the fact that he said Id need a ton until now. I totally forgot he said that because I never actually had trouble heh.
Those fucking necklaces. Ugh. Well I think those dudes there DO drop them. But I got them from the Northern Plains myself. I dont know if it matters but thats where I did it. Just lots of running in and out of there killing those tall skinny ball shooting shades. You know the ones. In the plains. Theyre just tall.
Oh! Youre getting recovery potions! Those are their rare drop. The necklace and the earring they drop are both not rare I think. I got tons of the potions and got pissed whenever I did because its like...COME ON THATS THE RARE DROP ASSHOLE!
As far as time of day goes I couldnt tell you. But I DO know this. When you get the time you want it to be at, dont zone anywhere but in the area you came from. Its weird but....alright Ill give a situation.
Say you walk into the Southern Plains. Those Wristwatch guys are there right? You get all excited to kill em so you run up kill em all, keep going, kill em all, and go to Seafront, zone back out, but runs back to the Village killing em this time, get to the village then run back killing to Seafront. Basically every time you enter a new zone from the one you were just at you're pushing the weather/time of day to change to something new. So. If you go into the Southern Plains from the village, kill the enemies, then run back into the village, go back out, kill them again, go back into the village, the time or weather will never change until you start zoning into other areas. Granted I dont know how it decides what weather/time of day but I do know that once you have it at what you want, do not go to any other zone but the one you just came from if you want it to stay like that forever. (Except the Desert, thats always the same although sometimes it glitches or something and you see the King standing out there so theres no enemies.)
PHEW!
Edit! Oh and Kainy what do you play this on? Ill shoot you a friend request if you dont mind. I have PS3 and 360 so either way.
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I have done it. I got uber lucky earlier and found 2 subdued bracelets in the same run when I decided to start the bracelet runs tonight and it only took 20 minutes. I then proceeded to destroy achievements and get endings and I now have 990 achievement points in it. Just that Speed Run left.
I will say this though. That Ending D deletion is so fucking fantastically saddening to watch. 84 hours gone just like that. It literally scrolls through eery single thing youve done and makes it vanish before your eyes. Ugh. Christ. Welp. Speed run time. (Start that on my day off next week probably). I WILL 1000/1000 this.
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Finally got all the fish. God, screw that huge one in Seaside. It took me 20 minutes to hook him because even when I pulled back within .01 seconds he still got off the hook. Ugh.
It's not that catching him was hard, it was that for some reason I just could not hook him. Multiple times I hit it the second the rod went down and the bar popped up for a second before saying he got away. I actually caught "The Fish" in one go, but that one just was not cooperating. Once I hooked him though I got it first try. It probably had something to do with the way I was pulling back due to the camera, as it's really hard to see the fishing rod in Seaside unless I get a side shot. From the back the textures are so awful that the rod just looks like it's flashing in and out of existence.
Without me to raise this thread it would die. And I cant have that. Not just yet.
1000/1000 in this game a couple days ago. The speed run is intensely easy compared to what I had expected. Only took 6 hours and 17 minutes to complete. (couldve been a bit shorter too.) Of course just running through no training whatsoever certainly made bosses a lot more fun than I remember. All in all Im sad I finished this masterpiece. I want more. And now.
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Yeah, the speedrun isn't going to be hard. That's why I'm saving it for after the horrors of the upgrading one.
I haven't been working on that nearly enough, recently. Been actually playing games, instead of bashing my head into drop rates
Understandable. For some reason (despite having lots of great new games) I am just so addicted to Nier. I love it with a strong passion that is telling me to still play it despite having done everything. And yes, wait until that damned upgrade file is done before the speed run because after it deletes all your files, at least if theres more DLC, the Speed Run file will be there to use for it.
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"You're like a kitten! A kitten who doesn't speak Japanese." ~ Juliet Starling
Naw, I've already gotten all the endings, then restored my backed-up save. I'll have a save with 100% quest completion, ABC endings, and someday 100% words (at like 80 now). I started over from scratch after beating it once so that I'd have not just a platinum trophy, but a perfected file. I'm a little obsessive sometimes.
One subdued bracelet, the shit that those shamans in the lost shrine drop, and I'm home free. Nothing else that I have left to get will be remotely as hard.
I'm think I'm on to something. Acting on a rumor, I changed the difficulty to 'Easy' to make those damn flying shades drop metal piercings and subdued bracelets more often. Didn't work one bit- one hour, and exactly ONE health salve droped. So I proceeded to the Barren Temple to get some Pyrite... and the place was SWAMPED with these things! Running through twice, checking every gather spot, I got one Pyrite on average.
So I set the difficulty to 'Hard' and tried it all again. Results?
Exactly the other way around. Barely any Pyrite, but only half an hour and I already got two metal piercings and one subdued bracelet from the flying shades! So hard difficulty raises the probability for rare drops from enemies, whereas easy difficulty raises probability for rare items from gather spots.
I tested it with several other things (Black pearls, Forlorn necklaces, Twisted rings, Giant eggs), and up till now, I've been either insanely lucky or even luckier to find this method. Too bad I already got all the items I need. :P
Anybody else to confirm something in that direction?
P.S.: Noticed something on the speedrun trophy attempt...
I didn't skip the very first cutscene, and- hey, that's Grimoir Noir at the beginning! So if he's responsible for making humans Gestalt (so, separating body and soul), that means Yohna became Shade and Replicant at that point. Strangely enough, that process looks like the Black Scrawl- but what is the Black Scrawl during the game's events, then? Maybe the result if Shades try to enter a body again, which is impossible without Weiss and the "key" (the Shadowlord's body, Neir)?
This pink moonflower quest is making me hate this game. I have never seen a quest as bad as this in any game ever. There is absolutely no skill or tactics involved in this, it is complete luck. I have never hated a sidequest in any game ever as much I hate this one right now.
This pink moonflower quest is making me hate this game. I have never seen a quest as bad as this in any game ever. There is absolutely no skill or tactics involved in this, it is complete luck. I have never hated a sidequest in any game ever as much I hate this one right now.
A few things.
One, what a flower grows into is determined upon planting. Reloading your save won't help, you have to replant and start over.
Two, the chance for hybrid moonflowers to appear is based on what other flowers are planted in the adjacent (both in the same row and across to the next row) spots when it is planted. Thus, do not harvest all flowers at once, then plant all flowers at once. Harvest a spot, then replant, and move to the next spot.
Three, growth is based on your system clock. Plant, water, save, set it ahead 48 hours, see what you got.
Sidenote that I found funny: growth is based entirely off of the game comparing your current system time to the timestamp on the plant, so if you plant something while your system is IN THE FUTURE, then save and return to the present, your plant won't start growing until after you reach whenever the system clock said it was when you planted it. It'll still be there, a sprout, but it won't advance in life stages.
I had some white moonflowers that were sprouts for like a week
Wingo, your sample size doesn't seem that big, but I'm willing to try it!
Yeah the information I found at first was that data about planting them on top of where old flowers were, but after I got my indigo seeds I found out it's what they're adjacent to. So I'm going to be doing that for the pinks, but it's just bad design that you don't just get the flower for doing the right step. A 5% chance is nonsense, especially if you don't want to cheat. You could be doing the quest for a month or more if you're just unlucky.
I only need one pink moonflower though, right? Because with just one seed can't I plant, let it die, and get more seeds that way? That's what I did for Indigo seeds, and unless the pink moonflower doesn't actually exist outside of seed form I don't see why that same strategy wouldn't work.
What two colors are you hybridizing for pink? Should be red and indigo.
Yes you only need one set of seeds to get an infinite amount of flowers through planting, letting it become grass, and harvesting more seeds.
I'm pretty sure the chance for the low-tier hybrids is a lot more than 5%. The highest chance you can get for white, though, is 4% per plot, and that's only for the 3 in the middle row that have 4 spots surrounding them.
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Dont worry. The game is insanely easy and that will not happen for long. Im level 49 and everything dies in around one hit. Even Giant Shades. I dont know about bosses because Ive been farmign so long i havent fought one in a while. But....still...I wish to see how level 99 will be. Itll just take too damn long and I dont think Ill have the patience.
Titanium is best found in part 2 of the game, in the Junk Heap. There are enemies that only drop Titanium Alloy or Memory Alloy.
Also don't worry about upgrading weapons too much, once you have the Phoenix spear, nothing will ever be hard again, and you just buy the damn thing from Facade in part 2. It doesn't even need to be maxed to be gross.
You can do them whenever you want, and they're available to do in NG+ as well; just don't leave quests half finished if you're doing the latter option because you lose any progress you put into them between playthroughs and will have to start over (like, say, giving the needed items but not talking to someone after to finish it).
Also red light robots is not the best spot for Titanium; generally you want to hit up the big mid-boss robots because they'll always drop either titanium or memory alloy (and you'll need both). Or, you can hit up the last third of the DLC dungeon since you'll find a few of them in crates there as well. Drops from the red bots is more like a pleasant bonus.
In the third door of the DLC, where it's in the underground lab, and you go across the walkway with tons of boxes
I just got an Eagle Egg from one of the boxes
Holy shit
Oh you didnt know that? Yes. The walkway with tons of boxes has one egg. It CAN drop. Not always. But it can. I think it beats running in and out of the Arie myself. Only thing that sucks is if you dont get it thats 30 minutes wasted.
If eagle eggs are all you need, then Aerie farming is probably faster.
Oi. Indeed my friend. Its well worth it. Plus i need the 1 million moneys achievement so I need to make runs of that DLC anyways. The Eagle Egg thing is a very nice thing though. Those arnt my problem though. Those fucking Subdued Bracelets are horrendous! I finally got ONE last night. Ive farmed them for the past 3 nights. I still need 2 more. *sigh* just 3 weapons left to upgrade. YOU CANT FUCKING STOP ME NIER!
Planting a full field of lunar tears takes about 3 minutes, clock advance, and you get 75k from selling them.
After the 770k you get from doing all the quests, it doesn't take much time at all to Lunar Tear your way to victory.
I got 3 eagle eggs yesterday. I was taking care of fucking business
I was unaware of this. I uh...I had small monies because I always bought everything. But I cheaped the achievement out anyways. I did the DLC for Eagle eggs and got money on the side. When I got 300k I just saved my game, sold everything I had for 700k, got 1 mil, reloaded. Bam. But on a side note I need just one more Eagle egg.
Also.
Fuck Subdued Bracelets.
Again
Oh and very fucking nice. 3 Eagle eggs is pretty much pimpin'. I got one from 4 runs today and then stopped. The Bracelets were just making me so mad I decided to stop for now and go back later.
Honestly, my advice is to just system clock lunar tears and money away everything buyable, since the items that must be farmed can be so very, very hateful to farm.
Got 5 black pearls in one sitting today, so I'm still slowly but surely making progress.
Where are you farming for subdued bracelets, mastrius?
I really wish that room where you fight like 10-15 of the flying shades that drop those wasn't after the point of no return. I've gotten I think one or two of them, but they're pretty frequently mentioned as one of the worst items to farm.
On the bright side I'm over 75% word completion now. I wonder if I'll hit 100% by the time I finish farming all the shade-dropped mats
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The desert of hellishness. 3 flying shades each run. Its just SUCH a low chance to drop that it gets horribly annoying fast.
In that room of no return is there a save point nearby? Maybe just reload? I forget.
And damn 75. Thats a good amount. I dont really get any words anymore.
Between the final save point, which is outside the area of no return, and the area with a bunch of flying shades is like... at least one boss fight and a bunch of rooms and that annoying talking bird puzzle that takes too long. I don't think it'd be faster to farm them that way, especially since, if you get a bracelet, you have to do the entire second half again to get to where you can attempt that area once more.
Oh yeah I didnt even think about that
Its just a pain in the ass to do. I got my final Eagle Egg earlier and now I need 4 more Black Pearls and then I have just 2 weapons left. One needs the Subdued Bracelet and its done and the other needs a Subdued Bracelet to get to level 3. Ugh. Man. Pain in the arse!
And yeah Ill bet that final area has a bunch of words Im missing. I didnt spend much time there. Still havent.
Also fuck that bird puzzle. So easy but I hate sitting through the scene >.>
I mean, I've gotten 2% knockback resist words from enemies in the area immediately before the last boss. The reason I say I get a lot of words there is because when speed-running the second half of the game to show people the ending, I skip killing anything but bosses, basically.
I see. Well Ive killed ass-tons of enemies and rarely get words. Of course recently its just been flying shades and picking items up off the ground or DLC runs where words dont even drop so...
But hey good news! 2 weapons left! Im rather pumped but itll have to wait until later tonight before bracelet hunting. I have some Alan Wake to play. Still though. Just 2 left. I can do this.
Found out that flying shades don't appear in the desert until you're about to/have fought Roc. So pretty soon I'll have to go advance the story some.
Ugh Pyrite. that annoyed me so much. My advice to you is only go in as far as the beginning to search for sparklies because its much faster. Only go as far as until you reach the doorway to that sidescrolling platform thing with the cubes and the sand. Its just time consuming. This way you can run in, look inside both rooms, see if theres a sparkly, look at that rubble, see if theres one, then walk out. Way less than a minute in time and sometimes all 3 sparkling points will be there. It just works better.
And yeah the flyers arnt there til endgame pretty much.
I imagine that'll be where I need to farm what machines I'm missing, as well as some broken wristwatches.
I wish I had a complete record of what mats I've used in upgrades already, because operating only off of how many mats I need total might cause me to overfarm some of the rare items and that would be... awful.
Edit: Where did you find to be the best place/lure for fishing up rusted clumps? I need a bunch more and am not having the greatest luck with them. I'm perfectly happy to persistence through it if they can't be regularly gotten by any lure, but if there's a faster way I'd love to know so I can get down to the really ugly farming.
Sorry I havent responded. Had to go to work. Short day though! Anyways.
For Machine farming do this. Go inside the shrine from the bottom. Run up the stairs and go through the side rooms to the first Giant guy. Kill his face off. Then jump right down through the center to the bottom floor and zone out then go back in and repeat. Its really fast if you avoid all enemies and just straight on rush to the boss. Plus Im sure you're strong enough to one-hit-kill him by this point so you should be fine. It only takes maybe 60 seconds per run or so. Works great.
For Broken Wristwatches wait until its morning time and go outside into the Southern Plains. That area is full of Armored hammer guys who drop the watches (and sometimes a giant shade spawns with Machine chance but its insanely low compared to the one in the Lost Shrine). Well I think its morning. Sunny. Or...whatever it is. You'll know because itll just be full of those dudes. Just run up the hill there, kill the 7 or 8 that are there, zone out, go back in, repeat. Dont go through the whole area because its a time suck.
As far as Rusted Clumps go I never had a problem with them for some reason. But from what I remember earlier DLC runs seem to be the most efficient way to grab them. Plus some toher things you may need. (Pyrite is also there if you didnt get it all already) but the DLC 3rd area run seems a nice place for Clumps. However I will say I got a boatload of the clumps in the Desert fishing with.....Whatever the thing was you needed to catch the Legendary fish there maybe?
Oh! And I dont know if you are or not, but do not, I repeat do not use the extra % chance of Item drops. That fucks you in many ways and actually makes your chance of rarer items dropping less.
Right now my main barrier is forlorn necklaces. I have none, somehow, even though I've killed legions of shades. They drop off the shades that do a little dance and then either spray shots out or buff their allies, who appear in the Lost Shrine at the end of the game, right? I just killed them over and over for about 45 minutes without seeing a single forlorn necklace. Shitloads of recovery potions, yes, but not one forlorn necklace.
One subdued bracelet left, all the forlorn necklaces, a couple stopped clocks, and then the remaining items are really easy.
What determines the time of day in-game? I've never figured that one out. It's always seemed totally random to me.
Haha yeah I figured. The clumps are easy enough and I was like you too. My friend was like "Dude you need so many Rusted Clumps to upgrade things. Get them now. Dont be mad when you catch one." So I was freaking out at that point. Forgot about them the next day and then never thought about the fact that he said Id need a ton until now. I totally forgot he said that because I never actually had trouble heh.
Those fucking necklaces. Ugh. Well I think those dudes there DO drop them. But I got them from the Northern Plains myself. I dont know if it matters but thats where I did it. Just lots of running in and out of there killing those tall skinny ball shooting shades. You know the ones. In the plains. Theyre just tall.
Oh! Youre getting recovery potions! Those are their rare drop. The necklace and the earring they drop are both not rare I think. I got tons of the potions and got pissed whenever I did because its like...COME ON THATS THE RARE DROP ASSHOLE!
As far as time of day goes I couldnt tell you. But I DO know this. When you get the time you want it to be at, dont zone anywhere but in the area you came from. Its weird but....alright Ill give a situation.
Say you walk into the Southern Plains. Those Wristwatch guys are there right? You get all excited to kill em so you run up kill em all, keep going, kill em all, and go to Seafront, zone back out, but runs back to the Village killing em this time, get to the village then run back killing to Seafront. Basically every time you enter a new zone from the one you were just at you're pushing the weather/time of day to change to something new. So. If you go into the Southern Plains from the village, kill the enemies, then run back into the village, go back out, kill them again, go back into the village, the time or weather will never change until you start zoning into other areas. Granted I dont know how it decides what weather/time of day but I do know that once you have it at what you want, do not go to any other zone but the one you just came from if you want it to stay like that forever. (Except the Desert, thats always the same although sometimes it glitches or something and you see the King standing out there so theres no enemies.)
PHEW!
Edit! Oh and Kainy what do you play this on? Ill shoot you a friend request if you dont mind. I have PS3 and 360 so either way.
I will say this though. That Ending D deletion is so fucking fantastically saddening to watch. 84 hours gone just like that. It literally scrolls through eery single thing youve done and makes it vanish before your eyes. Ugh. Christ. Welp. Speed run time. (Start that on my day off next week probably). I WILL 1000/1000 this.
And if you have done all of them, dunkleosteus really aren't that hard of catches o.O
1000/1000 in this game a couple days ago. The speed run is intensely easy compared to what I had expected. Only took 6 hours and 17 minutes to complete. (couldve been a bit shorter too.) Of course just running through no training whatsoever certainly made bosses a lot more fun than I remember. All in all Im sad I finished this masterpiece. I want more. And now.
I haven't been working on that nearly enough, recently. Been actually playing games, instead of bashing my head into drop rates
Understandable. For some reason (despite having lots of great new games) I am just so addicted to Nier. I love it with a strong passion that is telling me to still play it despite having done everything. And yes, wait until that damned upgrade file is done before the speed run because after it deletes all your files, at least if theres more DLC, the Speed Run file will be there to use for it.
One subdued bracelet, the shit that those shamans in the lost shrine drop, and I'm home free. Nothing else that I have left to get will be remotely as hard.
Guys
I'm think I'm on to something. Acting on a rumor, I changed the difficulty to 'Easy' to make those damn flying shades drop metal piercings and subdued bracelets more often. Didn't work one bit- one hour, and exactly ONE health salve droped. So I proceeded to the Barren Temple to get some Pyrite... and the place was SWAMPED with these things! Running through twice, checking every gather spot, I got one Pyrite on average.
So I set the difficulty to 'Hard' and tried it all again. Results?
Exactly the other way around. Barely any Pyrite, but only half an hour and I already got two metal piercings and one subdued bracelet from the flying shades! So hard difficulty raises the probability for rare drops from enemies, whereas easy difficulty raises probability for rare items from gather spots.
I tested it with several other things (Black pearls, Forlorn necklaces, Twisted rings, Giant eggs), and up till now, I've been either insanely lucky or even luckier to find this method. Too bad I already got all the items I need. :P
Anybody else to confirm something in that direction?
P.S.: Noticed something on the speedrun trophy attempt...
A few things.
One, what a flower grows into is determined upon planting. Reloading your save won't help, you have to replant and start over.
Two, the chance for hybrid moonflowers to appear is based on what other flowers are planted in the adjacent (both in the same row and across to the next row) spots when it is planted. Thus, do not harvest all flowers at once, then plant all flowers at once. Harvest a spot, then replant, and move to the next spot.
Three, growth is based on your system clock. Plant, water, save, set it ahead 48 hours, see what you got.
Sidenote that I found funny: growth is based entirely off of the game comparing your current system time to the timestamp on the plant, so if you plant something while your system is IN THE FUTURE, then save and return to the present, your plant won't start growing until after you reach whenever the system clock said it was when you planted it. It'll still be there, a sprout, but it won't advance in life stages.
I had some white moonflowers that were sprouts for like a week
Wingo, your sample size doesn't seem that big, but I'm willing to try it!
I only need one pink moonflower though, right? Because with just one seed can't I plant, let it die, and get more seeds that way? That's what I did for Indigo seeds, and unless the pink moonflower doesn't actually exist outside of seed form I don't see why that same strategy wouldn't work.
Yes you only need one set of seeds to get an infinite amount of flowers through planting, letting it become grass, and harvesting more seeds.
I'm pretty sure the chance for the low-tier hybrids is a lot more than 5%. The highest chance you can get for white, though, is 4% per plot, and that's only for the 3 in the middle row that have 4 spots surrounding them.