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The [Chat] Dragon's Revenge

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  • poshnialloposhniallo Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bama wrote: »
    poshniallo wrote: »
    HAHA!

    I nearly replied to a Modern Man post. And then I deleted it!

    YAY!
    Heaven forbid we tell a couple of racists where they can shove it!

    (this is assuming you're talking about the post that I almost replied to)

    Are you assuming there's more than one MM post to argue with?

    Heh.

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    I figure I could take a bear.
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Leitner wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    oh wait, maybe it is the objectification of women even through a digital medium!

    thats what it is!

    We inherently objectify people though, we can't not.

    yeah but there are levels

    also "I play female characters because they allow me to become more immersed due to skills/abilities/the character model being better animated (as is the case with WoW...human males look terrible but the females look pretty good!)"

    is not the same as

    "i play female characters because dat ass!"

    Arch on
  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    poshniallo wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    poshniallo wrote: »
    HAHA!

    I nearly replied to a Modern Man post. And then I deleted it!

    YAY!
    Heaven forbid we tell a couple of racists where they can shove it!

    (this is assuming you're talking about the post that I almost replied to)

    Are you assuming there's more than one MM post to argue with?

    Heh.
    Well, I mean, how many threads is he posting in?

    Bama on
  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    what is wrong with dat ass

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  • Aroused BullAroused Bull Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Scandinavians are lunatics.

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    What if we like playing as Bridget in video games? What then?

    Sometimes I wish PA had the :psyduck: emote from SA. Or some other sort of "my brain asplode" version.

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    Damn it, it's fucking noon. I demand to know if Yami shit on a desk yet.

    Watch me sometimes stream games.
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    Arch on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Abby, you're not Pony. Write like a normal person.

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There are 1,888 Modern Man posts that you could argue with.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Abby, you're not Pony. Write like a normal person.

    I have slept three hours in the last 48. I can't write like a normal person.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    There are 1,888 Modern Man posts that you could argue with.

    they are all the same post

    "I am a rich white male who is happy being a cultural oppressor"

    Arch on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    ...No it doesn't...I mean, I find it totally creepy but it's your use of the world "only" that screams out "LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO OUTRAGE AGAINST"

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  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    i don't see that the first suggests the second

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Organichu wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    i don't see that the first suggests the second

    I could see where the first would imply that ONE of the function of a lady is to provide dat ass. But not the it is the only one.

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    Damn it, it's fucking noon. I demand to know if Yami shit on a desk yet.

    Watch me sometimes stream games.
  • Aroused BullAroused Bull Registered User
    edited April 2010
    Why can't people just accept that creepers are creepers rather than always trying to deconstruct their subconscious motivations.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    ...No it doesn't...I mean, I find it totally creepy but it's your use of the world "only" that screams out "LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO OUTRAGE AGAINST"

    fair enough; but this is still sexism, fullstop.

    Arch on
  • MikeManMikeMan Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    women are things

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    HOW DO YOU FUCK UP BAGELS. YOU BOIL THE WATER. PUT IN THE NOODLES
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    ...No it doesn't...I mean, I find it totally creepy but it's your use of the world "only" that screams out "LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO OUTRAGE AGAINST"

    fair enough; but this is still sexism, fullstop.

    No it's not.

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    MikeMan wrote: »
    women are things

    things are women

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  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    MikeMan wrote: »
    women are things

    things are women

    The set of all women is a subset of the set of all things.

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    Damn it, it's fucking noon. I demand to know if Yami shit on a desk yet.

    Watch me sometimes stream games.
  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Why can't people just accept that creepers are creepers rather than always trying to deconstruct their subconscious motivations.

    because sometimes creeping isn't actually creeping

    i mean in this case it is a little creepy

    but finding women sexually attractive isn't creepy

    the "ugh stop skeeving on that girl" thing is just ridiculously commonplace and overused, in any instance

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    MikeMan wrote: »
    women are things

    things are women

    The set of all women is a subset of the set of all things.

    theres some overlap with the set of dudes who look girly enough after 4 beers

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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    Bama on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    MikeMan wrote: »
    women are things

    things are women

    The set of all women is a subset of the set of all things.

    theres some overlap with the set of dudes who look girly enough after 4 beers

    Men who look like lesbians?

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    Some people are creepy about ladies bodies

    some just like 'em bunches

    I have way more of a problem with the number of posts along the lines of 'I'm a dude and I use a female avatar to con other dudes out their phat lootz' because god damn, assholes, way to make it even more difficult to be a female on the internet.

    The Cat on
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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got here and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    "Why did you roll a female night elf in WoW?"
    "Cuz if I'm gonna be looking at an ass all day, it better be female."
    "Dude, it's pixels on a screen."
    "DAT ASS!"

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    ...No it doesn't...I mean, I find it totally creepy but it's your use of the world "only" that screams out "LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO OUTRAGE AGAINST"

    fair enough; but this is still sexism, fullstop.

    No it's not.

    glad to see we get to the point where we just argue Yes and No back and forth this quickly

    Arch on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    The Cat wrote: »
    Some people are creepy about ladies bodies

    some just like 'em bunches

    I am making a note of the number of posts along the lines of 'I'm a dude and I use a female avatar to con other dudes out their phat lootz' because god damn, assholes, way to make it even more difficult to be a female on the internet.

    Did you ever read the SA saga on doing this in EQ back many years ago? It's amazing and hilarious in it's patheticness of the male population.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got here and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    "Why did you roll a female night elf in WoW?"
    "Cuz if I'm gonna be looking at an ass all day, it better be female."
    "Dude, it's pixels on a screen."
    "DAT ASS!"

    And that is sexism justin, I don't know if you know what that word means but thats what it is

    Arch on
  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    One point in that thread is sadly true though

    modelers seem to spend more time making female characters look good

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  • OrganichuOrganichu jacobkosh Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    the question was "why do you play a girl character" and someone was like "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours"

    and people are like "damn dude stop slobberin' ya perv"

    but then it got sucked into the feedback of "women are temples don't actually say they are pretty or you are a monster who is one day going to serial rape and murder young women"

    Organichu on
  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Arch wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    what is wrong with dat ass

    making a character a female just to look at dat ass is a bit creepy?

    and it sends the message that you think women only exist to provide dat ass?

    ...No it doesn't...I mean, I find it totally creepy but it's your use of the world "only" that screams out "LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO OUTRAGE AGAINST"

    fair enough; but this is still sexism, fullstop.

    No it's not.

    glad to see we get to the point where we just argue Yes and No back and forth this quickly

    Arch, you can't just say "its still sexism, fullstop." and not expect to be challenged in an equally abrupt way. Like I said, I find it creepy but it's not objectifying or sexist. It doesn't fall under the definition of either. You're looking for something to be outraged at and it's just not there.

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  • JustinSane07JustinSane07 __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got here and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    "Why did you roll a female night elf in WoW?"
    "Cuz if I'm gonna be looking at an ass all day, it better be female."
    "Dude, it's pixels on a screen."
    "DAT ASS!"

    And that is sexism justin, I don't know if you know what that word means but thats what it is

    No it's not.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got here and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    "Why did you roll a female night elf in WoW?"
    "Cuz if I'm gonna be looking at an ass all day, it better be female."
    "Dude, it's pixels on a screen."
    "DAT ASS!"

    And that is sexism justin, I don't know if you know what that word means but thats what it is

    well yeah, but the fact that I'm attracted to females and not males, isn't sexism that is bad.

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  • The CatThe Cat Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2010
    The Cat wrote: »
    Some people are creepy about ladies bodies

    some just like 'em bunches

    I am making a note of the number of posts along the lines of 'I'm a dude and I use a female avatar to con other dudes out their phat lootz' because god damn, assholes, way to make it even more difficult to be a female on the internet.

    Did you ever read the SA saga on doing this in EQ back many years ago? It's amazing and hilarious in it's patheticness of the male population.

    No, and it probably was kind of funny, but it also leads to guys on the internet going absolutely fucking nuts on anyone who has the temerity to act detectably female online, because that means you "want attention". You can't possibly just be being yourself.

    Raar.

    The Cat on
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  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got here and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    "Why did you roll a female night elf in WoW?"
    "Cuz if I'm gonna be looking at an ass all day, it better be female."
    "Dude, it's pixels on a screen."
    "DAT ASS!"

    And that is sexism justin, I don't know if you know what that word means but thats what it is
    Well if we want to pick nits and say that a preference based on sex is sexism, then yes. You seem to be implying that it is bad in this case and that's where things go fuzzy for me.

    Bama on
  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Organichu wrote: »
    Bama wrote: »
    My difficulty here may stem from the fact that I just got in and don't know what you guys are talking about specifically, but why is creating an aesthetically pleasing character creepy now?

    the question was "why do you play a girl character" and someone was like "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours"

    and people are like "damn dude stop slobberin' ya perv"

    but then it got sucked into the feedback of "women are temples don't actually say they are pretty or you are a monster who is one day going to serial rape and murder young women"

    dude that is not what we are saying at all

    I am just pointing out that the initial statement of "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours" is a pretty sexist thing to say because it implies that in this context the male character exists not to provide sexual satisfaction yet the female avatar does

    Arch on
  • YamiNoSenshiYamiNoSenshi A point called Z In the complex planeRegistered User regular
    edited April 2010
    I make female characters sometimes because why the hell not? Mostly in games where there's lots of voice acting and what not, so I can get the other half of the recorded dialog. Case in point: Mass Effect.

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  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    Arch wrote:
    I am just pointing out that the initial statement of "well in a third person shooter i'd rather look at a lady's ass than a dude's for hours" is a pretty sexist thing to say because it implies that in this context the male character exists not to provide sexual satisfaction yet the female avatar does

    this, quoted to make a point, is my response to justin, abbdhy (i think?) and bama

    Arch on
  • BamaBama Registered User regular
    edited April 2010
    It implies that the male character does not provide sexual satisfaction, yet the female character does. It's quite another thing to talk about the designers' intent, though I guess you could point out that game designers are overwhelmingly more likely to be male.

    Bama on
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