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I am thinking about getting a house in Minnesota and I want something close to the University of Minnesota the only problem is I don't know where is good and where is not. I am being told that all of Minneapolis is a ghetto and that I need to stay away from or it is far too expensive. Is there any decent suburb close to the university? I really have no idea about the area since I grew up in the suburbs.
Minneapolis is not a ghetto - there are some spots to avoid, but overall not too bad.The housing around the U is full of drunken frat kids, but if that's your thing then it's perfect. Looking at the Google maps, here are some neighborhoods to check out:
Prospect Park: Great neighborhood, probably the best you'll find super-close to the U
Dinkytown: Aforementioned fratboys
Como: Nice, most areas quiet, fratboys abount near the U, tho
Franklin Ave: Not terrible, but kind of sketchy
Uptown / Lyn-Lake: Heart of the non-downtown bar scene, artsy but high-traffic and expensive
Loring Park: Downtown living, and everything that entails
Downtown East / Cedar Riverside: see Franklin Ave:
South St Anthony: Quiet living, kind of like Prospect Park but farther from stuff
All the places I've listed so far are easily bike/busable to the U. I hope this helps, and if you have anymore questions don't hesitate to ask.
I agree with The Savior. I grew up in St. Anthony Park, which is one of the best neighborhoods in St. Paul and is adjacent to the St. Paul campus. There's a free bus between the campuses so you could live there.
I'd add these to the list as well:
NE Minneapolis: some places are bad, others reasonably priced. Feels like its going up in niceness overall, but there's still places to avoid.
Lauderdale: A small suburb bordering Roseville, Minneapolis and St. Paul. Near the St. Paul Campus and pretty cheap. I'd look around there first.
Falcon Heights: Same as Lauderdale
If you're looking for affordability I'd go for a suburb. Some of the places 'close' to the U aren't faster to get there, especially with the express buses from the suburbs. The light rail will be expanding through the U so anything on that will eventually be 'close' and also will likely rise in value to reflect it.
Taxes in Minneapolis are more than everywhere else, so that's something to keep in mind. Also there's more to do there. I lived at Lake/Hennepin for a year and it was ok. If you're into bars/clubs and all that then it would be great since you can easily walk there/home. Otherwise it was overpriced, took surprisingly long to get anywhere, and hard to park.
I don't go out a whole lot, not very social, and I definitely want to avoid the frat idiots. Suburbs sound perfect if there any any affordable, nice and close to the U.
By getting a house do you mean buying or renting? Advice might differ drastically depending.
Also, are you going to be commuting to the U everyday, or are there other reasons you want to live near it?
Most of the advice given so far is solid. The only thing I might quibble with is I wouldn't really call Franklin Ave sketchy, especially if you are over by The Seward Co-op. Seems like a neighborhood that's on the upswing to me.
I think it's some kind of cosmic law that you need to rep your own 'hood in threads like this, so I might as well chime in for Highland Park or Mac-Groveland. Very quiet and neighborhoodly while still having lots "city" to them. If you live close to Snelling it's a 20-minute ride to the U on the 144 (assuming leaving in the morning and coming back in the evening).
I don't know much about the west-of-the-cities suburbs, but really there are very very few areas in the whole metro that are really "OH SHIT DON'T LIVE THERE" so your best bet might just be to shop around a lot (If you are buying, Edina realty has a very nice MLS search thingy).
What is your price range? What makes a neighborhood "not nice" to you anymore?
I am going to be buying and I plan on attending the university as a student.
Not nice to me, pretty much anything out of The Wire. I don't want to have neighbors that are training pitbulls to be fighters and the other neighbors with a dirt lawn and four broke cars.
I am going to be buying and I plan on attending the university as a student.
Not nice to me, pretty much anything out of The Wire. I don't want to have neighbors that are training pitbulls to be fighters and the other neighbors with a dirt lawn and four broke cars.
You sure have strange ideas about what the Twin Cities are like. This isn't Detroit.
JebusUD on
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I am going to be buying and I plan on attending the university as a student.
Not nice to me, pretty much anything out of The Wire. I don't want to have neighbors that are training pitbulls to be fighters and the other neighbors with a dirt lawn and four broke cars.
You sure have strange ideas about what the Twin Cities are like. This isn't Detroit.
Just about anywhere will work for you then. That being said, I still wouldn't live in North Minneapolis.
I am going to be buying and I plan on attending the university as a student.
Not nice to me, pretty much anything out of The Wire. I don't want to have neighbors that are training pitbulls to be fighters and the other neighbors with a dirt lawn and four broke cars.
You sure have strange ideas about what the Twin Cities are like. This isn't Detroit.
Just about anywhere will work for you then. That being said, I still wouldn't live in North Minneapolis.
North Minneapolis is about as bad as it gets and it's still way better than the shitty areas in other cities. The cold keeps the riffraff out. I live out in the suburbs though, most of which are pretty nice and include an express bus to the U.
The express buses, how are they? Maybe a 20 minute commute to class or something like that? I generally hate public transportation, usually feel like I need to carry at least one gun, but it has been a while since I have been in Minnesota.
Wow, I grew up in Maple Grove, did you go to school there? The internets is crazy
You grew up in Maple Grove and yet you think the entire Twin Cities are a ghetto?
I agree that I would avoid North Minneapolis but even that part pales in comparison to the horrible parts of other cities.
The savior has a good list, but I think his/her definition of "sketchy" is different from mine. I would live in Seward or Cedar-Riverside near Franklin ave - I wouldn't consider those areas "sketchy" in the least bit.
Well I don't live there and I never really traveled much around the cities or suburbs besides some baseball games in the meterodome. Basically my mom yelled at me for 30 minutes for wanting to get a house there and she thinks I should live in Maple Grove or somewhere around there.
Ah so in her opinion the city is a crime-infested hellhole and you should buy something in the nice safe comfy suburbs?
Are you going to grad school or undergrad? Regardless, you're going to want something that isn't a 40+ minute bus ride away from school. And those buses that you would take into the city are commuter ones, which means they'll run at specific times in the morning to go in, and specific times in the evening to leave. So you'll be constrained as to when you can take classes.
I will get a car but the main problem right now is I need to figure out where I am going to college first. I might have to go to a community college and then transfer into the university.
You grew up in Maple Grove and yet you think the entire Twin Cities are a ghetto?
I agree that I would avoid North Minneapolis but even that part pales in comparison to the horrible parts of other cities.
The savior has a good list, but I think his/her definition of "sketchy" is different from mine. I would live in Seward or Cedar-Riverside near Franklin ave - I wouldn't consider those areas "sketchy" in the least bit.
The Seward are is quite nice, yeah. If the OP feels threatened by public transportation (It's really quite safe, BTW) then I don't think s/he would like to live too far west of there, at least in some places.
Mac Groveland is nice, but kind of out of the way, especially if you're looking for a 20 min commute. If you'd be biking this would be a lot more practical.
Maple Grove is, IMO, a wasteland of strip malls and chain restaurants. Plus, if you hit rush hour each day your commute will be hellishly long.
If you're looking for something suburbish but close to the U, Lauderdale or Falcon Heights might be your best bet. They're not as crowded as most of the other areas listed, but are close to the St Paul campus, which has a free connector bus to the Minneapolis (primary) campus. They're also close to 35W, so you can drive straight to campus if that's your thing.
You give the impression that you're uncomfortable moving to the city, and I think you're overreacting a bit. The Twin Cities are IMO one of the better kept secrets in the US - it's nice almost everywhere (provided you can deal with the cold ). While you're bound to see some things that make you a bit uneasy, try and keep things in perspective. The TC has an incredible wealth of local restaurants, music shops/venues, community organizations, and so on. It would be a shame to avoid taking advantage of those because of some misguided fears.
I moved to Maple Grove from up north so I didn't go to school here. Although I have lived/worked in the area for 8 years now.
There are some not-so expensive houses in the area right now actually. I rent currently though. If I had to drive to Minneapolis on a daily basis I probably won't live here. Luckily my job is the opposite direction of traffic.
Well I don't live there and I never really traveled much around the cities or suburbs besides some baseball games in the meterodome. Basically my mom yelled at me for 30 minutes for wanting to get a house there and she thinks I should live in Maple Grove or somewhere around there.
You missed out on the chance to experience a great city. Your mom is being a silly goose.
About the Metro Transit buses, they are generally on time and clean. The kind of people you'll be riding with depend greatly on the route and time. Express buses in from the suburbs will be filled with boring people going to work. They are convenient if (and only if) you are leaving in the morning and coming back in the afternoon.
Bit of an update, I am now back in Minneapolis and from the way I get paid I will be renting instead of buying. I have been pretty much looking in uptown and a few other areas. All I can really find is in uptown and south of that. I found a pretty nice apartment on Franklin and Park for $700/month for a 2 bedroom, and a 1 bedroom that would work as a two bedroom (almost the same size as the other one) for $740 in uptown.
Is Franklin and Park bad? Someone said it is a little sketchy but my step mom laughed when I said I was looking at that are, they said it is incredibly high crime and that she volunteers down there to help homeless people right down the street. I think they are being stupid.
Anyways are these prices about right? Finding an apartment sucks, I have made probably 50 calls and got about 10 back.
I pay 620 for a two bedroom in St. Cloud. Granted it is kinda a bit nicer than by campus and has a walk in closet, but those prices sound pretty good to me.
Given that price I wouldn't expect them to be too nice. All depends on the place though.
I would expect more between the 800 - 900 dollar range, especially if you can deal with 1 bedroom. 1 bedroom and den is more do-able for you probably.
JebusUD on
and I wonder about my neighbors even though I don't have them
but they're listening to every word I say
I used to live 1 block from Lake and Hennepin. I paid $650 for a 555 sqft studio. Check out this website for the crime info. Franklin/Park is the NW corner of district 3 and the neighborhood is Ventura Park.
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Prospect Park: Great neighborhood, probably the best you'll find super-close to the U
Dinkytown: Aforementioned fratboys
Como: Nice, most areas quiet, fratboys abount near the U, tho
Franklin Ave: Not terrible, but kind of sketchy
Uptown / Lyn-Lake: Heart of the non-downtown bar scene, artsy but high-traffic and expensive
Loring Park: Downtown living, and everything that entails
Downtown East / Cedar Riverside: see Franklin Ave:
South St Anthony: Quiet living, kind of like Prospect Park but farther from stuff
All the places I've listed so far are easily bike/busable to the U. I hope this helps, and if you have anymore questions don't hesitate to ask.
I'd add these to the list as well:
NE Minneapolis: some places are bad, others reasonably priced. Feels like its going up in niceness overall, but there's still places to avoid.
Lauderdale: A small suburb bordering Roseville, Minneapolis and St. Paul. Near the St. Paul Campus and pretty cheap. I'd look around there first.
Falcon Heights: Same as Lauderdale
If you're looking for affordability I'd go for a suburb. Some of the places 'close' to the U aren't faster to get there, especially with the express buses from the suburbs. The light rail will be expanding through the U so anything on that will eventually be 'close' and also will likely rise in value to reflect it.
Taxes in Minneapolis are more than everywhere else, so that's something to keep in mind. Also there's more to do there. I lived at Lake/Hennepin for a year and it was ok. If you're into bars/clubs and all that then it would be great since you can easily walk there/home. Otherwise it was overpriced, took surprisingly long to get anywhere, and hard to park.
Also, are you going to be commuting to the U everyday, or are there other reasons you want to live near it?
Most of the advice given so far is solid. The only thing I might quibble with is I wouldn't really call Franklin Ave sketchy, especially if you are over by The Seward Co-op. Seems like a neighborhood that's on the upswing to me.
I think it's some kind of cosmic law that you need to rep your own 'hood in threads like this, so I might as well chime in for Highland Park or Mac-Groveland. Very quiet and neighborhoodly while still having lots "city" to them. If you live close to Snelling it's a 20-minute ride to the U on the 144 (assuming leaving in the morning and coming back in the evening).
I don't know much about the west-of-the-cities suburbs, but really there are very very few areas in the whole metro that are really "OH SHIT DON'T LIVE THERE" so your best bet might just be to shop around a lot (If you are buying, Edina realty has a very nice MLS search thingy).
What is your price range? What makes a neighborhood "not nice" to you anymore?
Not nice to me, pretty much anything out of The Wire. I don't want to have neighbors that are training pitbulls to be fighters and the other neighbors with a dirt lawn and four broke cars.
You sure have strange ideas about what the Twin Cities are like. This isn't Detroit.
but they're listening to every word I say
Just about anywhere will work for you then. That being said, I still wouldn't live in North Minneapolis.
North Minneapolis is about as bad as it gets and it's still way better than the shitty areas in other cities. The cold keeps the riffraff out. I live out in the suburbs though, most of which are pretty nice and include an express bus to the U.
Wow, I grew up in Maple Grove, did you go to school there? The internets is crazy
I agree that I would avoid North Minneapolis but even that part pales in comparison to the horrible parts of other cities.
The savior has a good list, but I think his/her definition of "sketchy" is different from mine. I would live in Seward or Cedar-Riverside near Franklin ave - I wouldn't consider those areas "sketchy" in the least bit.
Are you going to grad school or undergrad? Regardless, you're going to want something that isn't a 40+ minute bus ride away from school. And those buses that you would take into the city are commuter ones, which means they'll run at specific times in the morning to go in, and specific times in the evening to leave. So you'll be constrained as to when you can take classes.
Are you going to have a car?
House is probably expensive there.
but they're listening to every word I say
The Seward are is quite nice, yeah. If the OP feels threatened by public transportation (It's really quite safe, BTW) then I don't think s/he would like to live too far west of there, at least in some places.
Mac Groveland is nice, but kind of out of the way, especially if you're looking for a 20 min commute. If you'd be biking this would be a lot more practical.
Maple Grove is, IMO, a wasteland of strip malls and chain restaurants. Plus, if you hit rush hour each day your commute will be hellishly long.
If you're looking for something suburbish but close to the U, Lauderdale or Falcon Heights might be your best bet. They're not as crowded as most of the other areas listed, but are close to the St Paul campus, which has a free connector bus to the Minneapolis (primary) campus. They're also close to 35W, so you can drive straight to campus if that's your thing.
You give the impression that you're uncomfortable moving to the city, and I think you're overreacting a bit. The Twin Cities are IMO one of the better kept secrets in the US - it's nice almost everywhere (provided you can deal with the cold ). While you're bound to see some things that make you a bit uneasy, try and keep things in perspective. The TC has an incredible wealth of local restaurants, music shops/venues, community organizations, and so on. It would be a shame to avoid taking advantage of those because of some misguided fears.
Also Maple Grove has change a lot since I left, like triple the number of strip malls.
There are some not-so expensive houses in the area right now actually. I rent currently though. If I had to drive to Minneapolis on a daily basis I probably won't live here. Luckily my job is the opposite direction of traffic.
You missed out on the chance to experience a great city. Your mom is being a silly goose.
About the Metro Transit buses, they are generally on time and clean. The kind of people you'll be riding with depend greatly on the route and time. Express buses in from the suburbs will be filled with boring people going to work. They are convenient if (and only if) you are leaving in the morning and coming back in the afternoon.
Is Franklin and Park bad? Someone said it is a little sketchy but my step mom laughed when I said I was looking at that are, they said it is incredibly high crime and that she volunteers down there to help homeless people right down the street. I think they are being stupid.
Anyways are these prices about right? Finding an apartment sucks, I have made probably 50 calls and got about 10 back.
I pay 620 for a two bedroom in St. Cloud. Granted it is kinda a bit nicer than by campus and has a walk in closet, but those prices sound pretty good to me.
Given that price I wouldn't expect them to be too nice. All depends on the place though.
I would expect more between the 800 - 900 dollar range, especially if you can deal with 1 bedroom. 1 bedroom and den is more do-able for you probably.
but they're listening to every word I say
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/crime-statistics/codefor/statistics.asp