Yeah, it should be. Remember the Backburner's damage boost uses the normal Flamethrower as a baseline.
Stealing the math from the *shudder* Steam forums...
Originally, both did 100 damage.
The nerf put the FT at 80 damage (-20%) and the BB at 96. (+20% of the FT's damage.)
Today's buff puts the FT at 88 damage (+10% from the nerfed version) and 101 damage for the BB (+15% over the FT).
So...it does about the same damage as the regular flamethrower did? That person yesterday who said that they were nerfing it so that they could bring it back at a still nerfed value and call it a buff was right.
Rather than critting from behind, the Backburner now minicrits against enemies moving away from the Pyro (up to a specific tolerance of motion, designed to emphasize punishing fleeing enemies regardless of what direction they're facing).
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Not sure how I feel about this. Firstly, I'm happy they killed the afterburn nerf. It was pointless and just made getting lit on fire more of a joke. Secondly, the new damage setups are alright I guess. I would have preferred they left the FF alone and just upped the damage on a BB a bit, but oh well.
The flare gun buff is loads of meh. I mean, it's awesome on paper, but how often are you going to be in the situation of shooting a dude at long range who's already on fire. The only two situations that I'd see that happening is if there's another pyro loose over there (which is very circumstantial at best.) or the guy you just hit with the flare gun decided to not go get himself put out so he doesn't take a 90 damage shot to the kisser.
Plus it kinda runs counter to the philosophy of the pyro. I'll wait to see how well works in action.
Not sure how I feel about this. Firstly, I'm happy they killed the afterburn nerf. It was pointless and just made getting lit on fire more of a joke. Secondly, the new damage setups are alright I guess. I would have preferred they left the FF alone and just upped the damage on a BB a bit, but oh well.
The flare gun buff is loads of meh. I mean, it's awesome on paper, but how often are you going to be in the situation of shooting a dude at long range who's already on fire. The only two situations that I'd see that happening is if there's another pyro loose over there (which is very circumstantial at best.) or the guy you just hit with the flare gun decided to not go get himself put out so he doesn't take a 90 damage shot to the kisser.
Plus it kinda runs counter to the philosophy of the pyro. I'll wait to see how well works in action.
The range requirement isn't that far, maybe the length of the 2fort bridge. If you have to retreat with an airblast it's very conceivable you could hit them with a parting shot, and you can use it to rape Heavies at range pretty easily.
Not sure how I feel about this. Firstly, I'm happy they killed the afterburn nerf. It was pointless and just made getting lit on fire more of a joke. Secondly, the new damage setups are alright I guess. I would have preferred they left the FF alone and just upped the damage on a BB a bit, but oh well.
The flare gun buff is loads of meh. I mean, it's awesome on paper, but how often are you going to be in the situation of shooting a dude at long range who's already on fire. The only two situations that I'd see that happening is if there's another pyro loose over there (which is very circumstantial at best.) or the guy you just hit with the flare gun decided to not go get himself put out so he doesn't take a 90 damage shot to the kisser.
Plus it kinda runs counter to the philosophy of the pyro. I'll wait to see how well works in action.
The range requirement isn't that far, maybe the length of the 2fort bridge. If you have to retreat with an airblast it's very conceivable you could hit them with a parting shot, and you can use it to rape Heavies at range pretty easily.
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So...it does about the same damage as the regular flamethrower did? That person yesterday who said that they were nerfing it so that they could bring it back at a still nerfed value and call it a buff was right.
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Backburner Tweak
Rather than critting from behind, the Backburner now minicrits against enemies moving away from the Pyro (up to a specific tolerance of motion, designed to emphasize punishing fleeing enemies regardless of what direction they're facing).
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The flare gun buff is loads of meh. I mean, it's awesome on paper, but how often are you going to be in the situation of shooting a dude at long range who's already on fire. The only two situations that I'd see that happening is if there's another pyro loose over there (which is very circumstantial at best.) or the guy you just hit with the flare gun decided to not go get himself put out so he doesn't take a 90 damage shot to the kisser.
Plus it kinda runs counter to the philosophy of the pyro. I'll wait to see how well works in action.
i thought it was just "flares crit at long range."
i was like jaaaaaam son
That would have been awesome. Overpowered, but awesome.
But I have to be able to vote for goldrush, dustbowl, and then egypt because I'm leaving the server!
I can't play on other maps!
The range requirement isn't that far, maybe the length of the 2fort bridge. If you have to retreat with an airblast it's very conceivable you could hit them with a parting shot, and you can use it to rape Heavies at range pretty easily.
im coming back miss.tf2!
The heavy is awesome now (some would say a little too awesome) and Natascha is all kinds of useful now. (Mainly for pissing people off.)
i have the sincerest hopes they nerf him
into the fucking ground
(Insert Zoidbergs torso-heavy picture)
Oh shit, I missed that too. Now it seems less over powered. But still. You could totally fuck up a heavy with flares.
Edit: Also, I rebooted Zissou since it looked like it was having a seizure. So play there. Nerds.
i will make a tf2 video like i've always aspired to do
i have some more footage but i'm soooooo lazy
there are like 3 that i am really really proud of
especially one clip from those few days you could make infini-sentries
come join me
like now
Flare gun buff!
I think I'll play again!
Edit: Wait, they added crafting since I was gone?
everyone leaves
Real Pyros Flare Gun snipe 8-)