If there is one thing this phalla is not, its predictable. We have no vote history to go off of. All we have is shenanigans. Behind the scenes shenanigans. With that being said...
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simonwolfi can feel a differencetoday, a differenceRegistered Userregular
edited May 2010
Oh, vagrant, you're such a cad.
A cad who exposes specials, potentially giving the village even less of a chance to win in this baffling games, but still! A cad is a cad is a cad, indeed.
So, I have something for you. It's a lead if nothing else. Trust my motives or don't, I can't see your vote anyways.
I just talked to Samurai and he said he got his Role PM and the game had already started (which I had no idea of until he told me). I repeat, Samurai admitted to getting a Role PM. Not so ignorant now is he?
Though I do thank him for letting me know the game started.
PMs are now going out. If you do not recieve one, then you are an Ignorant Villager, and this is your role PM :-
You are... Ignorant
You are just one of twenty five in this little private universe. You know nothing of it, as do they. At least, that’s what you would hope. But it seems that some people here know too much. They seek to purify, to eliminate you for your lack of knowledge. This would definitely not be a good thing. You will win when the Knowledgeable are eliminated.
PMs are now going out. If you do not recieve one, then you are an Ignorant Villager, and this is your role PM :-
You are... Ignorant
You are just one of twenty five in this little private universe. You know nothing of it, as do they. At least, that’s what you would hope. But it seems that some people here know too much. They seek to purify, to eliminate you for your lack of knowledge. This would definitely not be a good thing. You will win when the Knowledgeable are eliminated.
Hey Samurai: Read the above. I believe that this means some people didn't get PMs with their role.
Well, I guess revealing early is going to suck but here we go!
I am Zealous! And you Knowledeables must fear me! For I call Fire and Brimstone and Lighting and Other methods of bodily harm to you! In other words, I am this guy:
But now I'm calling for :
to protect me. And you:
and Roleblocks to leave me alone. Seer seer me and Let's not vote out your friendly neighborhood gunslinger!
I suggest a vote for Malkor, but in the spirit of honesty, I'm really just basing that on his resistance to any sort of cooperation before this started.
I'm voting for him, though, you have my word on that.
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited May 2010
No, see, this is stupid. If there was one goddamned special we wanted outed and guarded, it was the seer. Not the vig. The vig has no way to prove he's killed anyone! The seer can at least post his results in the thread. Errr.. no, wait, he can't, can he? Even if he claims he seered a special, all the mafia has to do is counter-claim to be that special. Without narration, there's no way to prove it one way or the other.
I'm stumped.
I think it follows though that Vagrant isn't Mafia unless they both are. If Vagrant was Mafia and Samurai wasn't, he would have just killed Samurai (assuming that Mafia get a kill, and Daius isn't just waiting to see how quickly the village will decimate itself without the benefit of voting patterns).
So - assuming the Mafia have a kill, Vagrant outing Samurai means:
A) They're both Mafia, and are attempting shennanigans. Which, considering Samurai has had some pretty bad Mafia tells in the past, this might be a decent gamble
Vagrant's village and Samurai's Mafia. Because why not lie about it now that you've been outed?
C) Vagrant's village and Samurai's the Vig. And we're boned.
Ohhhhh, wait... if Daius gives us the death totals (but not the names) as narration every night, we will know exactly which day we killed a Mafia. And then when that happens, we all chime in "I voted X" and the mafia lie about who they voted for and it will be a great big clusterfuck. Even worse is, if dead people's votes don't count, then we'll have no idea out of all the people clamoring "I voted X" exactly whose vote was even counted on that night.
Do votes from dead players count?
I think the way to win this might actually be to vote in thread, and then the village has to stick to their votes. As long as we all do as we say, we'll only have five liars in our midst.
Here's the thing. You can be damn sure the Mafia are coordinating their votes. If we're all just flailing around voting randomly based on our own fancies, then the Mafia votes will win, every single time.
I know it runs counter to the perceived spirit of the game, but if we're gonna win this it's what we have to do.
From talking to Vagrant, I'm going with C here, Ringo. Vagrant wouldn't pull A like that. He's smarter than that. I mean, it worked with Advent in Late Night, but Vagrant is more behind the scenes kinda guy. He would have just stabbed me and walked away. This game is going to be crazy, that's for sure.
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RingoHe/Hima distinct lack of substanceRegistered Userregular
edited May 2010
I would be worried if you went with B
Hell, I'm worried now. I'm almost certain that's at this point, it's just better to kill you than mistakenly let a network form around you.
hmm...
Let's start off with !jackisreal because my gut tells me he's due to be mafia. Which is odd, because half my grudge list is in this game. And the other half are cake eaters.
Well, Ringo, let's say that I am who I say I am. We know we have vanillagers. So I would say that this might be a standard phalla. 1 vig, 1 seer, 1 guard, maybe 1 busdriver and/or roleblocker. So at this point, killing me would give the village one kill. The vote. And the mafia would have maybe 2 kills. So, Ringo, do you want to kill me this early? You might want to wait until the seer clears me or until we get a few mafia and ya'll feel that the village can survive without a vig.
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Toxic ToysAre you really taking my advice?Really?Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
I voted for Law. It's all red and stuff in the thread.
I didn't vote for him, I sent that in hours ago. I know I can't trust any of you because you are all lying bastard when playing phalla. Like me.
Unless we get a kill count for the night, we really won't know if we offed the village vig or not. The only chance we have is a seer that can convince people to vote for the mafia and the rest of us listen to it. But we will never know it it's true because we don't know who died.
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calling out Demurist's Nazi from Inglourious Basterds reference ? Nazis baaaaad.
Also, this whole 'voting in the thread' thing is just going to let the mafia know by how much and for who they need to vote to swing things their way. So I'm not really a fan of all that. It's not like we're going to publicly find out who died and whether or not they were evil, so I don't really see the point. This is all going to be behind the scenes, which I can sadly take no part in (assuming a dormant ability doesn't become activated) unless I get seered or something.
This all sounds too knowledgeable though so back to the matter at hand...
Alegis, what kind of PM was that?!? "I'm just a vanillager, don't kill me?" Ok, I'm not the brightest bulb in the box, but I know when someone is screwing with me. (Pun not intended.) (Kinda)
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Or not at all. XD
A cad who exposes specials, potentially giving the village even less of a chance to win in this baffling games, but still! A cad is a cad is a cad, indeed.
Yo, Silly Goose!
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If you are missing a role PM, then tell the host. I got a Role PM. Woohoo. So did everyone else. You suck at life.
Ahem! You are wrong sir.
Hey Samurai: Read the above. I believe that this means some people didn't get PMs with their role.
Zithra Melitch in Star Wars: An Empire's End
Jellica in In the Shadow of Zeus
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Jellica in In the Shadow of Zeus
Well, I guess revealing early is going to suck but here we go!
I am Zealous! And you Knowledeables must fear me! For I call Fire and Brimstone and Lighting and Other methods of bodily harm to you! In other words, I am this guy:
But now I'm calling for :
to protect me. And you:
It's not looking good for you.
Zithra Melitch in Star Wars: An Empire's End
Jellica in In the Shadow of Zeus
I stand by my vote. I voted for Clinton too... And Bush... And Obama...
I'm voting for him, though, you have my word on that.
I'm stumped.
I think it follows though that Vagrant isn't Mafia unless they both are. If Vagrant was Mafia and Samurai wasn't, he would have just killed Samurai (assuming that Mafia get a kill, and Daius isn't just waiting to see how quickly the village will decimate itself without the benefit of voting patterns).
So - assuming the Mafia have a kill, Vagrant outing Samurai means:
A) They're both Mafia, and are attempting shennanigans. Which, considering Samurai has had some pretty bad Mafia tells in the past, this might be a decent gamble
C) Vagrant's village and Samurai's the Vig. And we're boned.
Ohhhhh, wait... if Daius gives us the death totals (but not the names) as narration every night, we will know exactly which day we killed a Mafia. And then when that happens, we all chime in "I voted X" and the mafia lie about who they voted for and it will be a great big clusterfuck. Even worse is, if dead people's votes don't count, then we'll have no idea out of all the people clamoring "I voted X" exactly whose vote was even counted on that night.
Do votes from dead players count?
I think the way to win this might actually be to vote in thread, and then the village has to stick to their votes. As long as we all do as we say, we'll only have five liars in our midst.
Here's the thing. You can be damn sure the Mafia are coordinating their votes. If we're all just flailing around voting randomly based on our own fancies, then the Mafia votes will win, every single time.
I know it runs counter to the perceived spirit of the game, but if we're gonna win this it's what we have to do.
Hell, I'm worried now. I'm almost certain that's at this point, it's just better to kill you than mistakenly let a network form around you.
hmm...
Let's start off with !jackisreal because my gut tells me he's due to be mafia. Which is odd, because half my grudge list is in this game. And the other half are cake eaters.
Go pm that in, we'll believe ya!
I didn't vote for him, I sent that in hours ago. I know I can't trust any of you because you are all lying bastard when playing phalla. Like me.
Unless we get a kill count for the night, we really won't know if we offed the village vig or not. The only chance we have is a seer that can convince people to vote for the mafia and the rest of us listen to it. But we will never know it it's true because we don't know who died.
Ha ha ha.
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Looks like we lost, pack your bags boys
Malkor
jackisreal
calling out Demurist's Nazi from Inglourious Basterds reference ? Nazis baaaaad.
Also, this whole 'voting in the thread' thing is just going to let the mafia know by how much and for who they need to vote to swing things their way. So I'm not really a fan of all that. It's not like we're going to publicly find out who died and whether or not they were evil, so I don't really see the point. This is all going to be behind the scenes, which I can sadly take no part in (assuming a dormant ability doesn't become activated) unless I get seered or something.
This all sounds too knowledgeable though so back to the matter at hand...
They took our jooooobs! (They TOOK OUR JOOOBS!)
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We can leave our friends behind
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He fought The Law and The Law won