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Super Street Fighter IV: Everyone loves Chun-li.

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    ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I got kicked out of Arde's lobby and never got invited back in :(

    My bad - guess the room was full when I invited you. :(

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    TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Juri's 1 legged hit box makes things hard :(

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    hadokenhadoken Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    TheStig wrote: »
    Juri's 1 legged hit box makes things hard :(

    I have fought one juri in the whole time ive played this game D:. im so jealous, everyone is just playing the old characters they were good with.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I don't hate Cody, I hate Jail Emo-Fucker Cody. I miss Beat Em Up Hero Cody. Man needs to pick his balls up and fight evil and shit.

    Hey! What if we get Rolento? Would that be too over-the-top? He doesn't seem as evil in the Alpha games.

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ok, so is the Skye in top 16 at ECT the same Skye who's in the PA irc?

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    HylianbunnyHylianbunny Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    hadoken wrote: »
    TheStig wrote: »
    Juri's 1 legged hit box makes things hard :(

    I have fought one juri in the whole time ive played this game D:. im so jealous, everyone is just playing the old characters they were good with.

    Want to fight one right now? (You should be warned, I'm pretty horrible. :lol:)

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cantido wrote: »
    I don't hate Cody, I hate Jail Emo-Fucker Cody. I miss Beat Em Up Hero Cody. Man needs to pick his balls up and fight evil and shit.

    Hey! What if we get Rolento? Would that be too over-the-top? He doesn't seem as evil in the Alpha games.

    i would love to have rolento so much.

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    mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This ECT stream is entertaining to watch, but holy hell are the commentators terrible to listen to. Either they're too loud or they're obnoxiously nasal like this one dude on right now.

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I love how Wong makes excuses when he loses, instead of showing good sportsmanship.

    "3S isn't relevant anymore, I prefer to play with the times"

    Sure. I'm sure you wouldn't be claiming that shit is "broken" or whatever if you had won. No class.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I didn't even hear what he said because the commentary had become so shrill and annoying at that point I had to turn it down.

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    SivrajSivraj Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Link to stream plz!

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    Blue mapBlue map Hello darkness, my old friend. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So is the Hakan vs Vega match up really this bad, or do i just suck at fighting Vega(s)?

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Edit: Beat.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The IRC has exploded or soemthing.

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    aBlankaBlank Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Blue map wrote: »
    So is the Hakan vs Vega match up really this bad, or do i just suck at fighting Vega(s)?

    hakan is bad.

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    FuriousJodoFuriousJodo Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Of the 3-4 people that were trying to main Hakan that I know, all of them have dropped him pretty much completely.

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Of the 3-4 people that were trying to main Hakan that I know, all of them have dropped him pretty much completely.

    /raises hand.

    Yup.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    DaSniper91DaSniper91 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cantido wrote: »
    I don't hate Cody, I hate Jail Emo-Fucker Cody. I miss Beat Em Up Hero Cody. Man needs to pick his balls up and fight evil and shit.

    Hey! What if we get Rolento? Would that be too over-the-top? He doesn't seem as evil in the Alpha games.

    i would love to have rolento so much.

    Me too. Love his throw where he puts his belt of grenades on you and pulls the pin. Didn't Ono say Rolento just missed the SSIV cut along w/ Elena?

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    SivrajSivraj Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Of the 3-4 people that were trying to main Hakan that I know, all of them have dropped him pretty much completely.

    /raises hand.

    Yup.

    He's higher than Makoto on the tier list.

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    aBlankaBlank Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sivraj wrote: »
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Of the 3-4 people that were trying to main Hakan that I know, all of them have dropped him pretty much completely.

    /raises hand.

    Yup.

    He's higher than Makoto on the tier list.

    Tier lists lawl.

    Hakan is worse than Dan.

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    ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    aBlank wrote: »
    Sivraj wrote: »
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Of the 3-4 people that were trying to main Hakan that I know, all of them have dropped him pretty much completely.

    /raises hand.

    Yup.

    He's higher than Makoto on the tier list.

    Tier lists lawl.

    Hakan is worse than Dan.
    Makoto is worse than Dan.

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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Dan is the best character.

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    ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    SkutSkut wrote: »
    Dan is the best character.

    Dan actually does decently in Super if you're versed in his shenanigans and mix-ups.

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    mspencermspencer PAX [ENFORCER] Council Bluffs, IARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Maybe it's just me, but doesn't Makoto's Ultra launch the opposing player higher than Orchid's Ultra launched her opponent way back in Killer Instinct?

    Because that's an impressive launch.

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Not even tiers, really. Hakan just has no way to maintain pressure, because his very design makes you have to STOP pressure to maintain oil.

    It's just wtf really? He is SOO good when he's oiled, but completely loses momentum AND exposes himself to punishment when he tries to oil up. Maybe the June patch will address some stuff but as it is, no go. No crossup even.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    Fig-DFig-D Tustin, CA, USRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oiled Hakan is fucking fantastic. Non-oiled Hakan is fucking garbage. The problem lies in how hard it is to get oiled and stay oiled in many match ups.

    EDIT: God I hate Tekken. Why am I still watching this stream? Probably because I want to see "high level" Mortal Kombat :lol: .

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    ArdeArde Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Not even tiers, really. Hakan just has no way to maintain pressure, because his very design makes you have to STOP pressure to maintain oil.

    It's just wtf really? He is SOO good when he's oiled, but completely loses momentum AND exposes himself to punishment when he tries to oil up. Maybe the June patch will address some stuff but as it is, no go. No crossup even.

    No cross-ups is completely bullshit besides the other bullshit they gave him (wtf at jump height/backdash? no reversals).
    He ain't got nothing on the other grapplers.

    Fig-D wrote: »
    Oiled Hakan is fucking fantastic. Non-oiled Hakan is fucking garbage. The problem lies in how hard it is to get oiled and stay oiled in many match ups.

    EDIT: God I hate Tekken. Why am I still watching this stream? Probably because I want to see "high level" Mortal Kombat :lol: .
    Tekken Tag was awesome to watch -Tekken 6 is a borefest compared to it.

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    mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Tekken Ball is the best Tekken.

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    rakuenCallistorakuenCallisto Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    /raises hand.

    Yup.
    Yea but you drop characters like changin your underwear errday.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Which is why I standby what I said earlier that they should have just put Karin in.

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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I still play Hakan from time to time (usually in our lobbies) but yeah, he's shit. He's the shittiest shit that ever shat as far as grapplers are concerned.

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    DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Worse than Dan!? Makoto!?

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    IblisIblis Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cantido wrote: »
    I don't hate Cody, I hate Jail Emo-Fucker Cody. I miss Beat Em Up Hero Cody. Man needs to pick his balls up and fight evil and shit.

    Hey! What if we get Rolento? Would that be too over-the-top? He doesn't seem as evil in the Alpha games.

    i would love to have rolento so much.

    Rolento was probably my favorite character in the Alpha series, such a ridiculously fun character. Although I know it will never happen DLC introducing Rolento and Mike Haggar would be sex.

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    mynameisguidomynameisguido Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    This Tekken Grand Final is silly long. Best of 5 Rounds, Best of 7 Matches, and now they're on the second set.

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    Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    /raises hand.

    Yup.
    Yea but you drop characters like changin your underwear errday.

    My friend, I'm sad to report that all the characters I really wanted to play in Super just didn't work for me. Makoto, Guy, Hakan, all had issues or just didn't "click"

    Now I play the big Indian, with a side of Rufus. And Abel in my back pocket.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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    SkutSkutSkutSkut Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Dragkonias wrote: »
    Worse than Dan!? Makoto!?

    Dan is top tier, people need to understand this. Even if you lose you win as long as you make your opponent laugh!

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    MoioinkMoioink Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Any Chun players able to advise on how to use her focus attack? At the moment I don't use them at all because I have no idea how. I'm only in the C bracket but even when I fight Bs I rarely see people use focus attacks properly so I've not really picked up anything from my fights online. I had this Sagat keep trying to focus attack me on wakeup today and every time I EX SBK him out of it. It was cute.

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    FuriousJodoFuriousJodo Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I can't give advise for using focus attacks because I use it way too much regardless of character I use.

    With Chun I use it to absorb fireballs mostly.

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    aBlankaBlank Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Moioink wrote: »
    Any Chun players able to advise on how to use her focus attack? At the moment I don't use them at all because I have no idea how. I'm only in the C bracket but even when I fight Bs I rarely see people use focus attacks properly so I've not really picked up anything from my fights online. I had this Sagat keep trying to focus attack me on wakeup today and every time I EX SBK him out of it. It was cute.

    Depends on the matchup really. General advice though:

    Feel free to toss out level 1 FA's when you've trained the guy not to jump (whiffing FA's sucks). After a forward dash you're +1 on block which means free cr.short pressure against option select throw tech'ers (provided you get the timing right). Once you start doing that shit (+throwing after FA) incorporate back dashing to bait out reversals. Then start doing 'fake' FA's by dashing out of them into throws or low short pressure. Lots of potential there if the guy isn't a jab masher.

    Have a combo in mind for crumple stuns. There's nothing worse than seeing a chun player use god damn cr.short x2/3 -> ex legs after landing a crumple stun. Not only is it a huge waste of meter it does balls for damage. cr.fp XX hk legs ~mk legs -> whatever is good for forward dashing. If you haven't got that piano down, cr.fp XX mk sbk works. If you lack charge, you could always go for a reset. Standing close rh XX sk hasanshu.

    Off a back dash, you could head stomp x1, j.fp, head stomp x3 for flash/meterless damage or replace the last 3x head stomps with EX sbk/ex legs for ultra setup (if it'll kill the guy, damage is ass otherwise). Hasanshu/cr.rh are both options if you want to keep pressure on.


    Also, highly recommend not getting into the habit of EX sbk'ing people who are FA'ing over your body. Back dash is almost always the better option. If you get baited, you're a free ultra/big ass combo... and I'd say the majority of FA chargers on your wakeup are going to bait or fish for the level 3. Safest bet is almost always back dash in that case.

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