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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    think of how many jobs a process like that would create

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    So we've gotten two follow ups to Look Outs.

    Are the duo gonna do one for Automota as well?

    They should make that shit into a game.

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    edited May 2010
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    Why?

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    Srsly

    they took securities so dense and convoluted nobody even fucking understand them and gave em AAA ratings.

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    CorbiusCorbius Shepard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I have returned from playing Koreans in SC2 in a Korean PC cafe.

    I did not win.

    But I was not totally destroyed or humiliated.

    I consider this a victory.

    Also, the Korean voices in this version are great.

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    RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Sheep wrote: »
    So we've gotten two follow ups to Look Outs.

    Are the duo gonna do one for Automota as well?

    They should make that shit into a game.

    I've thought this from the beginning. Automata is my favorite thing they've done as far as these themed comics go. Not really into CTS that much, and I think Lookouts is dumb. Automata just seems to have an awesome environment that you could make some action/adventure/mystery game out of it. Similar to Condemned games.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Who is Skip?

    He invented peanut butter.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    So you're rating them what, A-?

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    the reporter was like

    um, you know that legally a lot of financial institutions can't buy now that you've downgraded greece to junk status

    and he's like

    yes of course we think long and hard about it before we cross that line

    so basically

    5 old dues in a conf room, reading a report made by 2 dudes who spent a week in greece, made a decision that has a huge impact on the world economy

    sounds like a great system

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Deebaser wrote: »
    So yeah, anyone hear about that trader at Citigroup that fucked up the Dow yesterday?

    Apparently, this shithead put in a futures order for 1,000,000,000 contracts when he was supposed to put in one for 999 million less than that. A few people at the office the had Stop orders got seriously FUCKED.

    yeah I guess the drop of almost 1,000 points = ~$1T dollars lost

    whee

    It's not the dollar amount that bothers me so much as the people that were hit by this. It's mostly the responsible cautious investors that got burned, whereas a lot of the fuckstick daytrading casino kids made $TEXAS yesterday.

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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    It's been a bad week to live in the Southeast USA...

    And it may get worse.

    I haven't heard an update on the oil cap dome thing yet.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Yeah uh am I the only person that doesn't even remotely enjoy Lookouts? I think it's boring as hell.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    So you're rating them what, A-?

    BBB

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    Apothe0sis wrote: »

    Something blocked by my work filter!

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Drez wrote: »
    Yeah uh am I the only person that doesn't even remotely enjoy Lookouts? I think it's boring as hell.

    its pretty dumb

    i honestly don't like any of their side projects much

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    RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Drez wrote: »
    Yeah uh am I the only person that doesn't even remotely enjoy Lookouts? I think it's boring as hell.

    "Lookouts is dumb".

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Deebaser wrote: »
    Kagera wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    So yeah, anyone hear about that trader at Citigroup that fucked up the Dow yesterday?

    Apparently, this shithead put in a futures order for 1,000,000,000 contracts when he was supposed to put in one for 999 million less than that. A few people at the office the had Stop orders got seriously FUCKED.

    Nope, no one here when that happened had a manic breakdown demanding the death of the Greek people or anything.


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    That is amazing. Who is Skip? nothing's popping up on google. I thought maybe it was a funny finance blog. :(

    Yeah, I also heard rumblings about the Greeks causing it too. /facepalm.

    Skip is Skippydumptruck, a member of these very forums!

    firewaterword was all like 'FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU' when the drop from 350 to 1000 happened, it was almost funny if you didn't think about the implications.

    No wait it was totes funny, because I'm an asshole.

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    DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Deebaser wrote: »
    That is amazing. Who is Skip?

    :x

    Sorry dude. :(

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Apothe0sis wrote: »

    A horny old man.

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    SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    Drez wrote: »
    Yeah uh am I the only person that doesn't even remotely enjoy Lookouts? I think it's boring as hell.

    It was the one I liked least of the three.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Lookouts doesn't do a whole lot for me.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    In my opinion, the ratings agencies (like Morningstar & S&P) are as culpable, if not more so, than any other entity in the market for the bullshit that's gone down in the last 2 years.

    They should be tarred and feathered or something.

    Why?

    Basically what them other guys said. If you take highly volatile, crazy risky securities and think that they're oh so safe as long as they're bundled up and insured, call them AAA, and act surprised when they go down in flames, you've fucked up.

    For example, check out the Charles Schwab YieldPlus lawsuits going down. If you call your bond fund "safe" but load it up with mortgage backed securities, you're doing something BAD.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Apothe0sis wrote: »

    mark_1378.jpg

    makes me think of

    julianbeck.bmp

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    CorbiusCorbius Shepard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Maybe I'm simple, but I really dislike the recent Lookouts run. I mean yes, the art is better, but I have absolutely no idea what is really happening or what the "point" is.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I liked Automatons even though it was welltrod ground, mostly because G&T do noir well.

    Jim Darkmagic probably had the most potential of the three.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »

    A CREEPY old man.

    Fixed it for you and added picture for added effect.
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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Drez wrote: »
    Yeah uh am I the only person that doesn't even remotely enjoy Lookouts? I think it's boring as hell.

    its pretty dumb

    i honestly don't like any of their side projects much

    Honestly while I like the art in Automata, I haven't read it fully yet. I've read every single Penny-Arcade strip so far except all of Lookouts and Automata. I find myself drifting off.

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The recent thing is basically them imagining their teacher as the beast he is pretending to be while they practice how to deal with it.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ryadic wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »

    A CREEPY old man.

    Fixed it for you and added picture for added effect.

    mark_1534.jpg

    Again, compare to:

    poltergeist.jpg

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    firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    firewaterword was all like 'FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU' when the drop from 350 to 1000 happened, it was almost funny if you didn't think about the implications.

    No wait it was totes funny, because I'm an asshole.

    My boss and I were pretty much freaking out in synchronization.

    But yeah, it's no good at all. Having bought a boatload of gold a few months ago is helping a bit though.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    I liked Automatons even though it was welltrod ground, mostly because G&T do noir well.

    Jim Darkmagic probably had the most potential of the three.

    The most potential to turn an occasional funny character into a prolonged groanfest maybe.

    Like when SNL takes a sketch character and makes a movie around them.

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    skippydumptruckskippydumptruck begin again Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    firewaterword was all like 'FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU' when the drop from 350 to 1000 happened, it was almost funny if you didn't think about the implications.

    No wait it was totes funny, because I'm an asshole.

    My boss and I were pretty much freaking out in synchronization.

    But yeah, it's no good at all. Having bought a boatload of gold a few months ago is helping a bit though.

    UNTIL THAT BOAT SINKS

    spanish dubloons for all!

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    IncenjucarIncenjucar VChatter Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Lookouts probably appeals more to people with kids. Or LARPers.

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    RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I liked Automatons even though it was welltrod ground, mostly because G&T do noir well.

    Jim Darkmagic probably had the most potential of the three.

    The most potential to turn an occasional funny character into a prolonged groanfest maybe.

    Like when SNL takes a sketch character and makes a movie around them.

    TAKE THAT BACK!

    Wayne's World was a kick ass movie!!!

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    RustRust __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2010
    hey, kids, here's a fun game you can play at home!

    see how much of this article you can read before screaming out something along the lines of FUCK THIS GAY EARTH
    School for Disabled Forces Students to Wear Backpacks That Deliver Massive Electric Shocks

    A rights group has filed a report and urgent appeal with the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture about outrageous school rules.

    Mental Disability Rights International (MDRI) has filed a report and urgent appeal with the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture alleging that the Judge Rotenberg Center for the disabled, located in Massachusetts, violates the UN Convention against Torture.

    The rights group submitted their report this week, titled "Torture not Treatment: Electric Shock and Long-Term Restraint in the United States on Children and Adults with Disabilities at the Judge Rotenberg Center," after an in-depth investigation revealed use of restraint boards, isolation, food deprivation and electric shocks in efforts to control the behaviors of its disabled and emotionally troubled students.

    Findings in the MDRI report include the center's practice of subjecting children to electric shocks on the legs, arms, soles of feet and torso -- in many cases for years -- as well as some for more than a decade. Electronic shocks are administered by remote-controlled packs attached to a child's back called a Graduated Electronic Decelerators (GEI).

    The disabilities group notes that stun guns typically deliver three to four milliamps per shock. GEI packs, meanwhile, shock students with 45 milliamps -- more than ten times the amperage of a typical stun gun.

    A former employee of the center told an investigator, "When you start working there, they show you this video which says the shock is 'like a bee sting' and that it does not really hurt the kids. One kid, you could smell the flesh burning, he had so many shocks. These kids are under constant fear, 24/7. They sleep with them on, eat with them on. It made me sick and I could not sleep. I prayed to God someone would help these kids."

    Noting that it believes United States law fails to provide needed protections to children and adults with disabilities, MDRI calls for the immediate end to the use of electric shock and long-term restraints as a form of behavior modification or treatment and a ban on the infliction of severe pain for so-called therapeutic purposes.

    "Torture as treatment should be banned and prosecuted under criminal law," the report states.

    The U.S. Department of Justice opened a "routine investigation" of the center in February of this year in response to a September 2009 letter signed by 31 disability organizations claiming that the center violated the Americans with Disabilities Act.

    Judge Rotenberg CEO and founder Dr. Matthew L. Israel began his first program in California back in 1977. In 1981, a 14-year old boy died face down, tied to his bed, while living in the California center. Dr. Israel was not held responsible for the death. After an investigation by the State of California, Israel relocated to Rhode Island, and then to Massachusetts, where his facility still operates today.

    Mother Jones magazine published an extensive investigative report on the Rotenberg Center in 2007 titled "School of Shock." Reporter Jennifer Gonnerman asked, "How many times do you have to zap a child before it's torture?"

    Children at the Judge Rotenberg Center are often shackled, restrained and secluded for months at a time, the report says. Social isolation, and food deprivation as forms of punishment are common. Mock and threatened stabbings -- to forcibly elicit unacceptable behaviors resulting in electric shock punishments (Labeled as Behavioral Research Lessons or BRLs, by the center) were reported to MDRI as well as state regulatory bodies.

    A former student of the center reportedly tells MDRI, "The worst thing ever was the BRLs. They try and make you do a bad behavior and then they punish you. The first time I had a BRL, two guys came in the room and grabbed me – I had no idea what was going on. They held a knife to my throat and I started to scream and I got shocked. I had BRLs three times a week for stuff I didn't even do. It went on for about six months or more. I was in a constant state of paranoia and fear. I never knew if a door opened if I would get one. It was more stress than I could ever imagine. Horror."

    Behaviors that the center deemed "aggressive," as well as those considered "minor," or "non-compliant" -- such as raising one's hand without permission -- are all considered punishable by electric shocks, restraints, and other punishments to students.

    "One girl who was blind, deaf and non-verbal was moaning and rocking," a former teacher says in the report. "Her moaning was like a cry. The staff shocked her for moaning. Turned out she had broken a tooth. Another child had an accident in the bathroom and was shocked."

    The rights group investigation found that the Rotenberg center is the only known facility in the United States, "Or perhaps the world," that employs the use of electricity, long-term restraints and other punishments to deliberately inflict pain upon its children and then refer to it as "treatment." The electric shocks alone are cited as having possible long-term effects such as muscle stiffness, impotence, damage to teeth, scarring of the skin, hair loss, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), severe depression, chronic anxiety, memory loss and sleep disturbances.

    The MDRI report states that more than any other source for its information, they relied upon information readily obtained from the Judge Rotenberg Center's own website.

    In response to MDRI's report, the Judge Rotenberg Center said, "There is no credible evidence that for these most severe forms of behavior disorders, there is any pharmacological or psychological treatment that can effectively treat these students or even keep them safe. JRC is the only program willing to address the reality of these children’s disorders and endure the political firestorm in order to save these children and give them an education and a future."

    The complete response from the center can be read in full at JRC's website.

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    RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Lookouts probably appeals more to people with kids. Or LARPers.

    Two groups that rarely, if ever, intersect.

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    DrezDrez Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Ryadic wrote: »
    Incenjucar wrote: »
    Lookouts probably appeals more to people with kids. Or LARPers.

    Two groups that rarely, if ever, intersect.

    Unless a van and candy are involved. edit: Oh I misread, I thought that said "kids or LARPers."

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Kagera wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    I liked Automatons even though it was welltrod ground, mostly because G&T do noir well.

    Jim Darkmagic probably had the most potential of the three.

    The most potential to turn an occasional funny character into a prolonged groanfest maybe.

    Like when SNL takes a sketch character and makes a movie around them.

    I think the guys are a little smarter than that.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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