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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Sheep wrote: »
    http://www.starpulse.com/news/Jihan_Forbes/2010/05/10/there_is_little_originality_with_lady_
    "Lady Gaga is in some ways a reincarnation of Elvis Presley: She takes cues from other truly forward-thinking and innovative artists of color, and repackages it so that white America can comfortably digest it"

    All I was hearing there was sour grapes.

    god knows that white audiences refuse to listen to black performers in this day and age

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    CokebotleCokebotle 穴掘りの 電車内Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    Ultrasound to the testes is better than lasering them.

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    it's kind of in the beta if you will

    i know that women had huge concerns along the same lines when the pill was first invented

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    This is what pharma companies bitch about too. "We'd invest money in male birth control if men in focus groups told us that they'd take it!"

    And I'm like... who the fuck are these men? Every man I've ever talked to is like "FUCK YES BRING ON THE BIRTH CONTROL"

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    Apothe0sisApothe0sis Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality? Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Apothe0sis wrote: »
    @Feral, I finally responded to your request for More Information! regarding my position on the Intellectual Property.

    It is not ideal.

    Yep, I read it. It was overwhelming.

    Overwhelming?

    When I first read it I feared you said "underwhelming" and my heart went like :(

    Now I am feeling relieved because I reread it.

    My life is a coast of rollers.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    This is what pharma companies bitch about too. "We'd invest money in male birth control if men in focus groups told us that they'd take it!"

    And I'm like... who the fuck are these men? Every man I've ever talked to is like "FUCK YES BRING ON THE BIRTH CONTROL"

    I asked my ex if he would take a pill for men if it existed. He said no but couldn't really explain why.

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I just got a new haircut.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    JamesJames Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    I am not opposed to birth control for men.

    Cells can be destroyed via ultrasound, so damage isn't that outlandish of a concern, which is probably part of why they need to do more trials for "maximum effect and safety."

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.

    Oh man what if it cleared male acne. I CAN HEAR THE CLAMORING OF THE ADOLESCENTS ALREADY.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    This is what pharma companies bitch about too. "We'd invest money in male birth control if men in focus groups told us that they'd take it!"

    And I'm like... who the fuck are these men? Every man I've ever talked to is like "FUCK YES BRING ON THE BIRTH CONTROL"

    I asked my ex if he would take a pill for men if it existed. He said no but couldn't really explain why.

    It makes me wonder if the men I hang out with and talk to on a regular basis are really that different from the general population.

    Don't answer that, Will.

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    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    Well, the second is a valid concern for any experimental medical treatment. The first is just silly.

    Personally, and this applies to everyone I've talked to on the subject, are quite eager for some kind of birth control more effective than condoms which we can make use of. This ultrasound thing sounds downright ideal if it pans out.

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I'd take a pill for men if it existed.

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    TL DRTL DR Not at all confident in his reflexive opinions of thingsRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Passerbye wrote: »
    Tim how old are you?

    23

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Sheep wrote: »
    http://www.starpulse.com/news/Jihan_Forbes/2010/05/10/there_is_little_originality_with_lady_
    "Lady Gaga is in some ways a reincarnation of Elvis Presley: She takes cues from other truly forward-thinking and innovative artists of color, and repackages it so that white America can comfortably digest it"

    All I was hearing there was sour grapes.
    In China, "OMLG" (Oh my Lady Gaga!) has replaced "OMG."

    And now I shall do this too.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Maybe it's that we're used to women pumping hormones into their bodies to keep babies away. But men? Naw that's squicky!

    So It Goes on
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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I dunno. Many men I've talked to about it were pretty uptight about birth control for men. Worried it will take away their masculinity or permanently damage them or something.

    This is what pharma companies bitch about too. "We'd invest money in male birth control if men in focus groups told us that they'd take it!"

    And I'm like... who the fuck are these men? Every man I've ever talked to is like "FUCK YES BRING ON THE BIRTH CONTROL"

    yeah, same here. Whenever I hear about the concerns my sister has with her birth control (hormone troubles, bone loss from continually taking a shot if she doesn't want hormone troubles) etc etc, most male birth control solutions I hear about sound like daisies.

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Maybe it's that we're used to women pumping hormones into their bodies to keep babies away. But men? Naw that's squicky!

    who... who is saying this? Who are you arguing with here?

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    They have no problem making gay marriage illegal.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Maybe it's that we're used to women pumping hormones into their bodies to keep babies away. But men? Naw that's squicky!

    who... who is saying this? Who are you arguing with here?

    Nobody, just relating my own experience with dudes' attitudes about BC.

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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Maybe it's that we're used to women pumping hormones into their bodies to keep babies away. But men? Naw that's squicky!

    who... who is saying this? Who are you arguing with here?

    Sounded like just outloud conjecture to me.

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    They have no problem making gay marriage illegal.

    Closet homosexuals don't tend to get married.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Oh man there is a documentary about Proposition 8 and the Mormon Church coming out, I don't even wanna watch it, the preview made me cry.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    Eh. Male birth control triggers a few medical-ethical gotchas. They're not really difficult gotchas, unless you're clinging to a very rigid view of what medicine is and what medicine does.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.

    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Mormons: Perhaps they were persecuted ENOUGH in the 19th Century!

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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    Eh. Male birth control triggers a few medical-ethical gotchas. They're not really difficult gotchas, unless you're clinging to a very rigid view of what medicine is and what medicine does.

    I believe in the traditional definition of medicine. I want doctors to drill holes in sick people's skulls to let the evil spirits out.

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    FeralFeral MEMETICHARIZARD interior crocodile alligator ⇔ ǝɹʇɐǝɥʇ ǝᴉʌoɯ ʇǝloɹʌǝɥɔ ɐ ǝʌᴉɹp ᴉRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Gonna get some food and head home. Fucking exhausted.

    Maybe SCII later.

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    the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    Eh. Male birth control triggers a few medical-ethical gotchas. They're not really difficult gotchas, unless you're clinging to a very rigid view of what medicine is and what medicine does.

    I'm not disagreeing, just curious here. What are these gotchas? (I am assuming you mean extra problems above and beyond those which apply to all new medical treatments or drugs)

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Hmm, apparently CBS put Macgyver episodes on youtube.

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    So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Feral wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    Eh. Male birth control triggers a few medical-ethical gotchas. They're not really difficult gotchas, unless you're clinging to a very rigid view of what medicine is and what medicine does.

    I'm not disagreeing, just curious here. What are these gotchas? (I am assuming you mean extra problems above and beyond those which apply to all new medical treatments or drugs)

    If you give men birth control they will be more inclined to rape women!

    I dunno I'm curious as well what Feral means, beyond the general uneasiness some men have with the idea of altering their fertility.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Cinders wrote: »
    Hmm, apparently CBS put Macgyver episodes on youtube.

    The server is kept running by a rubber band, a paper clip, and a bendy straw.

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
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    RichyRichy Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Also,
    These battle records are kept so that the acts of bravery of his majesty be remembered for a million years, in addition to his regular acts of bravery which are so plentiful that should they all be named they would be too numerous to write.

    Gotta love Ancient Egypt's take on historical records.

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So It Goes wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    Richy wrote: »
    Feral wrote: »
    There's a pretty strong argument too that male birth control would fight an uphill regulatory battle.
    I don't think so. Old white Republican men don't like to restrict their own rights, just those of everyone else.

    Eh. Male birth control triggers a few medical-ethical gotchas. They're not really difficult gotchas, unless you're clinging to a very rigid view of what medicine is and what medicine does.

    I'm not disagreeing, just curious here. What are these gotchas? (I am assuming you mean extra problems above and beyond those which apply to all new medical treatments or drugs)

    If you give men birth control they will be more inclined to rape women!

    I dunno I'm curious as well what Feral means, beyond the general uneasiness some men have with the idea of altering their fertility.

    I'd assume similar gotcha's to having viagra covered by health insurance but 'the pill' and 'plan B' &c., purposefully excluded only even more directly comparable. Look up the committee hearing where a Republican talks about the frivolity of ensuring that actually giving birth be covered by plans because he'll never have to worry about it.

    *edit*
    Here

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    What if you replaced the organic penis with a robot one. Then you could use your bluetooth headset to speak commands to your dick and tell it to shoot blanks.

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    TarranonTarranon Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    daaamn look at this guy link a 47 minute youtube like it aint no thing

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Richy wrote: »
    Also,
    These battle records are kept so that the acts of bravery of his majesty be remembered for a million years, in addition to his regular acts of bravery which are so plentiful that should they all be named they would be too numerous to write.

    Gotta love Ancient Egypt's take on historical records.

    Librarians have always had to justify their budgets.

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    RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Richy wrote: »
    Also,
    These battle records are kept so that the acts of bravery of his majesty be remembered for a million years, in addition to his regular acts of bravery which are so plentiful that should they all be named they would be too numerous to write.

    Gotta love Ancient Egypt's take on historical records.

    I remember one lecture from TTC (this was Robert Oden) which was comparing the way in which Egyptians viewed history vs. the cultures of Mesopotamia that said something quite interesting. To the ancient Egyptians (very much in contrast to the people of Mesopotamia or Syria), history is the ephemereal. History is, essentially, not important. Things that are important are those which are cyclical and reaccuring.

    Thus, ancient Egyptian scribes have no problem with ascribing the same historical event (eg: a battle) to several different Pharoahs over the course of several hundred years.

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    SarksusSarksus ATTACK AND DETHRONE GODRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    A million years.

    I wonder what kind of science fiction an ancient Egyptian would write.

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