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MOTW 5-12-10: I Miss You

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    That memo should be the freaking cover for the book, since it just convinced me to get it. And I know nothing about the character.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Is Cho Athena's bitch or is he going to kill her?

    Because I'd beat the crap out of her with two maces for what she's done.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think Cho is taking the "screw the lot of you" and hates Athena for killing his buddy herc.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Is Cho Athena's bitch or is he going to kill her?

    Because I'd beat the crap out of her with two maces for what she's done.

    There's a scene in the book where he talks with
    Delphyne
    about how he knows Athena's up to something but isn't sure what it is yet. He's also clearly working behind her back and their brief interaction in the issue is Cho mouthing off to her.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    He shouldn't think about what plan she's up to, he should just kill her and be done with it. Hercules would approve with two thumbs up.

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  • ServoServo Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited May 2010
    those generation lost scans are okay I guess

    I just will never like evil max lord no matter what

    plus as far as a title goes, Brightest Day: Justice League: Generation Lost: Part One- Gone But Not Forgotten...doesn't exactly trip off the tongue.

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  • TeaSpoonTeaSpoon Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    My moment of the week was Adventure Comics 11, because it ended Mon-El's journey perfectly and connected his stay in the past with Legion continuity. Fables continues to be great. REBELS was good, though it had some really bad art at times.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I liked Fables because it ties into that short story done in 1001 nights of snowfall about Snow White and the dwarfs.

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  • WildcatWildcat Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    He shouldn't think about what plan she's up to, he should just kill her and be done with it. Hercules would approve with two thumbs up.

    To be fair, she's still Herc's sister*. They probably killed each other all the time when they were young.



    * Not sure if her springing fully-formed from ol' Zeus' noggin makes her a half-sister.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I love that Athena is spawned from his head while Aphrodite is spawned from his dick.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Langly wrote: »
    I love that Athena is spawned from his head while Aphrodite is spawned from his dick.

    I thought that they portrayed Aphrodite really well too, they didn't dance around the subject, she was clearly the god of having lots of sex and not really interested in much else. In fact all the Gods were portrayed well in the Herc series.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    So I liked Prince of Power. Where else could I read about Amadeus Cho?

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Incredible Hercules is where he got into an interesting character.

    Before that he was in one back-up in Amazing Fantasy and then was in the Incredible Hulk book during WWH where he was a really really annoying mary sue.

    But if you start with just Incredible Hercules that's all you need to know (he was a part of the Mighty Avengers under Slott's run).

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I think you need to read the WWH and Amazing Fantasy stuff to see Cho's character development

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    agreed with TLB

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I wouldn't read things that aren't really that good when you have 5-6 trades of good stuff just waiting to be enjoyed.

    You just need to know Cho was a dick, now he's just a bit of a dick. Welcome to dick club.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    yes but the reason he isn't that much of a dick is because of the events of wwh!

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I thought it was more the positive influence of Hercules in the ongoing as opposed to meeting his grumpy frumpy idol in WWH.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    his entire belief system was shattered by that event!

    I'd say it's pretty important!

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    you mock me with the exclamation points.

    Spider-Man's whole character was destroyed with OMD, still doesn't mean you should read it (oh yeah, I went there)

    Yes, I am saying OMD is exactly like WWH and Cho. Not really though. I'm just saying all you have to do is wiki it and just move on to the good stuff. The only good thing about the Cho WWH stuff was the Gary Frank art, and the two page fight between Herc and Hulk.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Texiken, you are a silly goose of the highest order

    read WWH, Kyougu

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    texiken you are comparing 40 years of continuity to like 7 extra issues of a comic


    they are not the same thing

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Just like Amadeus Cho and the Hulk.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    texiken stop being a racist

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    reading a dang synopsis is not the same thing as reading the story
    WWH is a good beginning, and you get more Kirby the coyote

    or do you hate cute things too, TexiKen

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Your fallback is always the racist card, isn't it Jesse Jackson?

    But that said yes, I hate the Hulk. I really do, if I became EiC of Marvel I would do three things:

    1) Reverse OMD (Kurt Busiek would fix it)
    2) Allow characters to smoke again
    3) Kill the Hulk

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    texiken do you also hate fun, freedom, and adorable baby kittens?

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    evidently, he does

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    texiken you will never get to be EiC at Marvel because you need a soul to tell good stories

    and you clearly lack one

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    I buy Mini Marvels and Pet Avengers INXS, I'm sorry they're not Transformers, Antimatter!

    And Jim Shooter didn't have a soul and was the best EiC ever ever. And he wasn't even a good artist to offset his decision making skills!

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    uh-huh
    it's not like transformers are the only thing I like, sheesh

    I mean, my love for older Spider-Man comics alone transcends all barriers, for one

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    You and TLB are just Goldblooming, trying to bring me down.

    Anyways, to get back to a meaningful character here is the best page from Return of Bruce Wayne #1:

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I buy Mini Marvels and Pet Avengers INXS, I'm sorry they're not Transformers, Antimatter!

    And Jim Shooter didn't have a soul and was the best EiC ever ever. And he wasn't even a good artist to offset his decision making skills!

    Pre-SECRET WARS Jim Shooter was awesome - post-SW Shooter was in idiot douchebag that fucked up more things than he helped.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    The only bad things Jim Shooter did:

    -Avengers #200
    -Secret Wars II

    everything else was good.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Nah, stories go that Shooter alienated a large amount of his creative talent. Shooter is the reason we didn't get a long Stern/Byrne CAPTAIN AMERICA run, for instance. Shooter is the reason Byrne left FF with #292 (originally, Byrne was going to stick with FF while he did Superman for DC).

    Also, large portions of SECRET WARS sucked. The Doom/Beyonder fight was cool, but Shooter's characterizations were terrible (Spider-Man single-handedly beats the entire X-Men team? Jesus fucking christ).

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Not to mention Colossus randomly banging alien women.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Furu wrote: »
    Not to mention Colossus randomly banging alien women.

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA, YOU PROBE ALIEN!

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    Shooter was a hard ass with creators, this is true. And sometimes we lost out on things like the Shooter/Byrne Cap run. But sometimes you need to be a hardass with the talent, and it's not like he didn't replace that talent with others, like JR jr, Ann Nocenti, Walt Simonson, Louise Simonson, etc. And while Byrne left at the height of his popularity, Shooter was the guy who helped make him who he was. The guy also helped establish a royalty system for creators and helped push comics beyond being just comics.

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  • psycojesterpsycojester Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    texiken you will never get to be EiC at Marvel because you need a soul to tell good stories

    and you clearly lack one

    But on the upside he's fully qualified to be the EiC for DC.

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  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited May 2010
    texiken you will never get to be EiC at Marvel because you need a soul to tell good stories

    and you clearly lack one

    But on the upside he's fully qualified to be the EiC for DC.

    That's a horrible thing to say, you apologize right now.

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