I'm not even arguing about whether or not Abdy is an alcoholic, I'm just saying that Nichu's claim there was entirely circular.
I don't exactly care enough to analyze Abdy's past actions to say if he has problems
I'm just saying in this particular case you were doing the
A: You have a problem!
B: No I don't.
A: See! Denial! That's a telltale sign that you have a problem!
And that shit's annoying.
silliness
i have very good reason to think what i do- i am just appending to that for abd that maybe he should step back and look at the typical sequence of this particular problem. 'denial' and 'defensiveness' exist there. i'm not being all shitty and 'nya nya' and sticking out my tongue about it, so cut out the whinging.
Except you didn't say that at all. You said
i think that excessive fondness is excessive, but people don't like to hear their use labeled in a way that has a negative connotation
defensiveness is one of the telltale signs of alcoholism and stonerdom
And then backpedaled that into "Well I really mean that after analyzing his behavior I think he may have a problem, and was saying he should take a step back and..."
Which is cool, you can say that. But that's not what you originally said.
i'm sorry, ms. cleo
it's one of your 'buttons'- i get that
so now i have to be totally explicit and finish out every sentence in a way that totally abdicates me of any misstep- to your satisfaction, i guess. do i now have to start saying "in my opinion" after everything i say, too, for fear of being called 'pushy'?
i didn't backpedal anything. i thought my meaning was clear- but i had to clarify that because you took issue with the way i spoke. if you think so little of me so as to assume that i'm just trolling around to try to fallacy trap abd, then so be it
so i guess 'whatever'
that wasn't what i meant and it wasn't phrased to imply that, but if you think i'm lying that's fine
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abd: i'm glad you didn't get drunk today. my point stands, though. you think it's typical or acceptable behavior. i don't, and i think the demographic- college kids and nerds who are obsessed with craft beers and mixed drinks- sort of normalizes what you do and makes any sort of questioning of it sound like puritanism. i'm glad you seem to have your life in control but yeah, i think you have a problem. it seems we'll just agree to disagree. i hope i'm wrong.
I'm sure plenty of people think anyone who gives a shit about open carry laws is a gun nut
or that even owning a gun and carrying it is gun nut activity, perhaps signifying an unhealthy obsession
but you would say that's silly!
My brother is an alcoholic. I know a lot of people that get shitfaced regularly and I wouldn't call them alcoholics.
i'm definitely not sure what your point is, here
"you're wrong to say other people have problems because there are people out there who would call your things problems, too"?
unless you mean something else i'm not understanding
is Organ unhealthily obsessed with guns? He has a gun, wears a gun all the time, talks about guns alot, and likes guns - indicative of an unhealthy obsession
is Abdhyius an alcoholic? He drinks, he goes out more than every second weekend, talks about alcohol alot, and likes drinking - indicative of alcoholism
I'm sure plenty of people think anyone who gives a shit about open carry laws is a gun nut
or that even owning a gun and carrying it is gun nut activity, perhaps signifying an unhealthy obsession
but you would say that's silly!
My brother is an alcoholic. I know a lot of people that get shitfaced regularly and I wouldn't call them alcoholics.
i'm definitely not sure what your point is, here
"you're wrong to say other people have problems because there are people out there who would call your things problems, too"?
unless you mean something else i'm not understanding
is Organ unhealthily obsessed with guns? He has a gun, wears a gun all the time, talks about guns alot, and likes guns - indicative of an unhealthy obsession
is Abdhyius an alcoholic? He drinks, he goes out more than every second weekend, talks about alcohol alot, and likes drinking - indicative of alcoholism
thank god the real world doesn't work this way, where we can just substitute random words that are entirely dissimilar- except that they are physically extant on our plane of reality- and expect meaning to be preserved across the board
I'm sure plenty of people think anyone who gives a shit about open carry laws is a gun nut
or that even owning a gun and carrying it is gun nut activity, perhaps signifying an unhealthy obsession
but you would say that's silly!
My brother is an alcoholic. I know a lot of people that get shitfaced regularly and I wouldn't call them alcoholics.
i'm definitely not sure what your point is, here
"you're wrong to say other people have problems because there are people out there who would call your things problems, too"?
unless you mean something else i'm not understanding
I thought I was fairly obvious. you get a skewed view of people's lives on here just as I get a skewed version of yours. Perhaps your objections come from a lack of understanding rather than from what you perceive as a full understanding of the situation.
given your posts it wouldn't be a stretch to characterize you as one of those preparedness nuts that you mocked once, what with your martial arts training and the fact that you carry a gun.
yet this isn't really the case
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HachfaceNot the Minister Farrakhan you're thinking ofDammit, Shepard!Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
Just applied for a job I'd love to have but the salary is so low I literally could not afford to work there.
Seriously. Paying a full-time employee in Boston $23k is unconscionable.
I'm sure plenty of people think anyone who gives a shit about open carry laws is a gun nut
or that even owning a gun and carrying it is gun nut activity, perhaps signifying an unhealthy obsession
but you would say that's silly!
My brother is an alcoholic. I know a lot of people that get shitfaced regularly and I wouldn't call them alcoholics.
i'm definitely not sure what your point is, here
"you're wrong to say other people have problems because there are people out there who would call your things problems, too"?
unless you mean something else i'm not understanding
I thought I was fairly obvious. you get a skewed view of people's lives on here just as I get a skewed version of yours. Perhaps your objections come from a lack of understanding rather than from what you perceive as a full understanding of the situation.
given your posts it wouldn't be a stretch to characterize you as one of those preparedness nuts that you mocked once, what with your martial arts training and the fact that you carry a gun.
yet this isn't really the case
man, i'm not a teetotaler
every single person from these forums who spent more than an hour or two with me- like, a dozen people- have seen me drinking, sometimes drinking heavily
i don't think your comparison really holds water
what you're saying is "i am totally outside your world so understandably i have a negative understanding of it"
but i drink, and i used to drink more heavily and regularly than i do now. i was 18, once- i attended a university in a major city.
i don't think i have a 'skewed understanding'. i think i just disagree with you guys.
man, facebook tells me I should be out drinking today just to try to catch up - seems like everyone was out yesterday, are out today, and are going out tomorrow
man, facebook tells me I should be out drinking today just to try to catch up - seems like everyone was out yesterday, are out today, and are going out tomorrow
That's what I'd be doing, and I don't have any kind of physical dependence on alcohol. As evidence by me never actually drinking at home despite the ability to.
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My neck, my back, my FUPA and my crack.
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TavIrish Minister for DefenceRegistered Userregular
edited May 2010
the human centipede is the crappiest movie
who the fuck thought this would be a good movie to make?
I also think drinking yourself to death isn't that big of a problem to be honest. We tolerate eating and smoking and being stressed to death
people that get violent or dangerous when they're drunk shouldn't drink though
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KageraImitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered Userregular
edited May 2010
I mean, I guess the existence of a dance floor and music sets off some kind of psychological trigger that makes me need a drink so I can flail absurdly to house music but I don't think of that as a dependency.
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do you like me
[ ] yes
[ ] no
because then he'll quote you but replace the text with a question asking you if you consent to him having anal sex with you
and then you'll have to do it
I think it is impossible to physically dislike eddy
i'm sorry, ms. cleo
it's one of your 'buttons'- i get that
so now i have to be totally explicit and finish out every sentence in a way that totally abdicates me of any misstep- to your satisfaction, i guess. do i now have to start saying "in my opinion" after everything i say, too, for fear of being called 'pushy'?
i didn't backpedal anything. i thought my meaning was clear- but i had to clarify that because you took issue with the way i spoke. if you think so little of me so as to assume that i'm just trolling around to try to fallacy trap abd, then so be it
so i guess 'whatever'
that wasn't what i meant and it wasn't phrased to imply that, but if you think i'm lying that's fine
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abd: i'm glad you didn't get drunk today. my point stands, though. you think it's typical or acceptable behavior. i don't, and i think the demographic- college kids and nerds who are obsessed with craft beers and mixed drinks- sort of normalizes what you do and makes any sort of questioning of it sound like puritanism. i'm glad you seem to have your life in control but yeah, i think you have a problem. it seems we'll just agree to disagree. i hope i'm wrong.
wait till I'm done with him
Both of these statements are 100% true.
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apparently to a lot of people it does, yeah
thank god a consensus doesn't prove right
I'm sure plenty of people think anyone who gives a shit about open carry laws is a gun nut
or that even owning a gun and carrying it is gun nut activity, perhaps signifying an unhealthy obsession
but you would say that's silly!
My brother is an alcoholic. I know a lot of people that get shitfaced regularly and I wouldn't call them alcoholics.
who are all "we don't really expect him to come, isn't he supposed to get wasted on the 16th?"
No.
Ricky Gervais is witty and people enjoy his company.
My former boss, not so much.
do you think I have a problem?
and what is this problem? What negative consequences does it have?
i'm definitely not sure what your point is, here
"you're wrong to say other people have problems because there are people out there who would call your things problems, too"?
unless you mean something else i'm not understanding
i do
my opinion doesn't seem to be well received here, so i'll drop it in [chat]
if you are genuinely interested feel free to PM me or email me - organichu (at) gmail.com
and if not then that's fine too
but i see now that it's a dumb conversation to have here in [chat]
I'm glad we could reach a consensus.
That'll be $400.
is Organ unhealthily obsessed with guns? He has a gun, wears a gun all the time, talks about guns alot, and likes guns - indicative of an unhealthy obsession
is Abdhyius an alcoholic? He drinks, he goes out more than every second weekend, talks about alcohol alot, and likes drinking - indicative of alcoholism
Your boss really sounds like the guy on The Office, sir.
thank god the real world doesn't work this way, where we can just substitute random words that are entirely dissimilar- except that they are physically extant on our plane of reality- and expect meaning to be preserved across the board
come on, man
I thought I was fairly obvious. you get a skewed view of people's lives on here just as I get a skewed version of yours. Perhaps your objections come from a lack of understanding rather than from what you perceive as a full understanding of the situation.
given your posts it wouldn't be a stretch to characterize you as one of those preparedness nuts that you mocked once, what with your martial arts training and the fact that you carry a gun.
yet this isn't really the case
Seriously. Paying a full-time employee in Boston $23k is unconscionable.
man, i'm not a teetotaler
every single person from these forums who spent more than an hour or two with me- like, a dozen people- have seen me drinking, sometimes drinking heavily
i don't think your comparison really holds water
what you're saying is "i am totally outside your world so understandably i have a negative understanding of it"
but i drink, and i used to drink more heavily and regularly than i do now. i was 18, once- i attended a university in a major city.
i don't think i have a 'skewed understanding'. i think i just disagree with you guys.
you were not drinking heavily
Who doesn't like it am I right?
Ahaha it is so true
it's really not designed for 1 person
however, it fucking rocks with 2
That's what I'd be doing, and I don't have any kind of physical dependence on alcohol. As evidence by me never actually drinking at home despite the ability to.
who the fuck thought this would be a good movie to make?
people that get violent or dangerous when they're drunk shouldn't drink though
stop giving me quests into Anal Rape Land
must I die in like a second to every fucking thing that's higher level than me